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May 24, 2013
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2L Coaching Services Gettysburg North-South Marathon
Gettysburg, PA USA
April 27, 2014

Contact Information
Name: Lowell Ladd
Address: 95 Presidential Circle
Gettysburg, PA 17325
Phone Number: 866-329-9382
Fax Number:
Email:  
Official Race Website: http://www.gettysburgnorthsouthmarathon.com


Race Organizer Comments
Course description
Lowell Ladd (9/24/10)

This event is a unique concept and ties into the history of Gettysburg. We will run a unified start and finish, but there will be "Northern" and "Southern" routes based on the way states were divided at the start of the Civil War. The exact roads are still being set, but this will primarily be run on back country roads in bucolic Adams County, Pennsylvania.


Runner Comments
I have run this marathon, and I want to add my comments about it.
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Average Ratings: Course - Organization - Fans -

Challenging, but rewarding run! (about: 2013)
Course: 4 Organization: 5 Fans: 4
J. E. from Delaware (5/5/13)
11-50 previous marathons | 1 Gettysburg North-South Marathon

I had wanted to do this race for a few years now (as a Gettysburg College Alum), and finally got my chance this year. I was glad I did. First off the race director Lowell truely cares about this race and that is evident in his accesiblity. He responded to questions regarding the race via facebook, email and again in person. He also was open to some suggestions regarding the race and these are the races that end up being the best experiences!!

PROS:
-Challenging scenic course(passes creeks,apple orchards,farms etc.)(only reason I gave it a 4 star was the lack of battlefield, but i understand the race director's hands are tied on that one).
-Passionate race director open to suggestions(asked runners what they would like at the finish and when an overwhelmingly large group said chocolate milk...wellthere was chocolate milk)
-North vs. South competition adds some excitement. winning side got a nice pilsner glass
-super support staff at the water stations etc
-locals come out and sit in their front yards to cheer you on!(reason the fans get a 4 is that there just aren't that many around and people are really limited as to where they can get on the course).
-small marathon(other then at the first 1/4 mile, you are comfortable)
-shuttles from the host hotels to the starting area were simple and low stress
-expo was easy(small, but no reason for it to be big) and staffed with friendly people).
-bibs and race shirts were color coordinated(north had blue and grey for the southern runners).
-top notch finishers medal
-course skirts parts of the battle field and the peace light in the beginning
-weather(i know this is variable, but a late April race date allows for a cooler start temp, but not freezing).
-all intersections were perfectly staff with people directing traffic. no issues for the runners.

Cons(small cons at that)
- had a very nice tribute to the fallen soldiers at Gettysburg as well as the boston marathon victims, but the speakers were hard to hear(i could barely hear it and i was in the front area, so the people in the back probably couldn't hear at all).
- Shuttles for the fans were an issue. Ran late(parents missed me at the first 'fan zone') One driver got lost!
-Host hotel was not very helpful. They didn't know details of the expo, shuttles etc. Were not accomodating for the runners and gave mixed responses(courtyad marriott's issue not the races).
- Course had a few points, where you were running on a narrow shoulder with cars going both directions. was a little nerve racking).

All in all, an amazing day! Challenging, and met some really great people along on the course. I would recommend this race highly for anyone who just wants a marathon, without the extra craziness that comes with the larger ones. This is a peaceful course and out of my 15 marathons, one of my favorite! It's ashame that the park service won't let it run more through the actual military park, but what can you do? Make sure to train hills as the course is pretty rolling. One longer hill through the beginning 3rd of the race. I felt as though I was getting a little burned out on races, and this one rejuvenated me! It was refreshing to do a race that was just a race and not filled with huge cooperate sponsors! As the tiny glitches get worked out, I would expect this race will only get better. Well done Gettysburg North/South crew! I hope to be back next year!


Beautiful Country Views, Not a fast course (about: 2013)
Course: 5 Organization: 4 Fans: 4
C. W. from Cleveland, Ohio (5/4/13)
1 previous marathon | 1 Gettysburg North-South Marathon

This being my first marathon, I feel like I am pretty prepared for anything flat Ohio can muster-up. This course is really hilly, but I didn't find myself really noticing the ups-and-downs until mile 20 when I was getting tired. The hills are pretty lengthy and gradual. The course is beautiful, especially with the apple orchards in bloom. Well-run water stations, but I would add an earlier Gu station (had just 2 at 15 and 20). Race packet pick-up needs to be held in a much larger space, but otherwise the organization was simple and easy to navigate. I appreciated the race director's emails prior to the race datemy family had no trouble figuring out spectator areas/buses. I would highly encourage anyone with Civil War interests to make a long weekend out of this race; enjoy the discounts to museums and shops.


A great scenic, historic and challening race (about: 2013)
Course: 4 Organization: 5 Fans: 4
K. S. from Blue Bell, PA (4/30/13)
11-50 previous marathons | 1 Gettysburg North-South Marathon

I ran the Gettysburg Blue-Gray Half Marathon (sister event) in October and I liked it so much I came back for the full marathon. This race is even better!

The course is challenging (especially the first 11 miles) with lots of rolling hills, first crossing a part of the battlefield for about a mile and then running through the beautiful farms and orchards nearby. The course is well marked with flaggers and police at intersections, water stations were well staffed by volunteers, traffic was minimal except for a mile or so near the end where you need to run along the shoulder or bike lane.

The organization of the packet pick-up, bus to the start and return, start, finish line (chip timing), post-race refreshments and awards ceremony were top-notch. Excellent medal and nice tech shirts.

I ran the first half too aggressively and burned out by the end. I'm eager to come back and run this one again next year!


A challenging but doable course if in good shape. (about: 2013)
Course: 5 Organization: 4 Fans: 4
L. B. from Hay Springs, Nebraska (4/30/13)
50+ previous marathons | 1 Gettysburg North-South Marathon

The course was real hilly the first half but not too bad the second half. Going up made it hard but then you had time to recover going back down the hills. They had plenty of help at the water tables and plenty of Gu at miles 16 and 20. I wanted some chocolate to drink but they were already out by the time I finished. Would have liked to listen to some civil war music at the end.


Gorgeous course, Would Recommend and Do Again (about: 2013)
Course: 5 Organization: 4 Fans: 5
E. K. from Hyattsville, Maryland (4/30/13)
4-5 previous marathons | 1 Gettysburg North-South Marathon

I thoroughly enjoyed this course. While the hills were a challenge I didn't find myself wishing I never signed up. Spectators and locals were all so very nice and supportive. I never saw a medic station. It would have been nice to get some bio-freeze or ibuprofen along the way. I also wasn't fond of the traffic that kept coming at us or behind us as we had to look back to make sure we weren't going to be hit while crossing roads. Overall, I recommend this course to the intermediate/advanced runner. Spectate for a year if you are interested because it is the most beautiful course I've been on so far.


Well organized race that is well supported (about: 2013)
Course: 4 Organization: 5 Fans: 5
A. G. from Lancaster, PA (4/30/13)
1 previous marathon | 1 Gettysburg North-South Marathon

This was my first marathon and I was anxious. The race director was fantastic at getting back in touch with information and such. The course was beautiful...loved the orchards in full bloom at the most difficult portion. The aid stations were frequent, as were the porta potties and the volunteers were amazing! Being a slow runner, I was worried about closed aid stations and found them all to be staffed with smiling faces. I loved that they had flagger force in full swing with at least one at each intersection and sometimes 2. The local police parked to block parts to alert traffic to be cautious. The only part that scared me was Goldenville Road around mile 19 where there are hills and it is difficult for oncoming traffic to see you as they fly by. Perhaps a police presence there? That would honestly be my only complaint. I'd love to run it next year!


If you're local, just do it (about: 2013)
Course: 4 Organization: 5 Fans: 2
Keith Straw from Malvern PA (4/30/13)
50+ previous marathons | 1 Gettysburg North-South Marathon

Lowell Ladd and his volunteers have got this very well organized. It's logistically simple. The start, finish, packets, and drop bags are all in the same location. You have race day packet pickup and a good porta-potty to runner ratio. It's not a fast course, but if you are local then this run should be on your race calendar.


Gorgeous hilly country run; easy logistics (about: 2013)
Course: 5 Organization: 5 Fans: 4
D. J. from Brooklyn, NY (4/29/13)
11-50 previous marathons | 1 Gettysburg North-South Marathon

Gorgeous small-town/rural event, warm supportive vibe, well organized and supported by volunteers, really fun to run due to beauty and challenge of course. Prerace logistics were super easy and met all needs, just drive up, park, easy bag check, and plenty of porta johns. Postrace was pleasant. Hats off to Lowell Ladd and crew for pulling together an exellent event.

Hills weren't giant but pretty relentless. The biggest climb is at 11 but there's plenty more to come. I was 10 minutes slower than Wineglass in fall 2012 and was in at least as good shape.

I had no problem with roads being open - most were very lightly used country roads, the few cars gave wide berth, and there were tons of flaggers and bike marshals keeping things safe and orderly. Spectators were sparse except at a few spots where folks gathered - you're running past farms most of the way - but you'd come across people often enough and those who were there were nicely supportive.

My only on-course issue was missing or hard to see mile markers - the first one I saw was at 4. My only not-on-course gripe - pasta dinner was pretty sad, though it met my nutritional needs. And - if it matters to you - while this is a lovely runners event there's not a big buzz around town.


Good race but a lot of room for improvemnts (about: 2013)
Course: 4 Organization: 3 Fans: 4
S. T. from Charlottesville (4/29/13)
4-5 previous marathons | 1 Gettysburg North-South Marathon

This was a third annual race of Gettysburg. There is a good potential here but there is a lot of room for improvement.
Positives:
- Interesting course with rolling hills, gorgeous farmland scenery with rosebuds in full bloom. Weather was also perfect.
-Outstanding course support with excellent volunteers
- Small race with simple logistics
-A lot of parking space
-Nice medal
-Historic significance of place
Constructive criticism:
-Course would be much improved if it would include battlefield and city downtown
-There must be more mile markers on the sides of road, not on the pavement
-Course was not marked with cones so traffic was a problem especially last two miles appeared very dangerous.
-Registration is overpriced since you get for your money only a poor quality tech shirt and a medal! If you ran for South you would need to pay additional $5 for commemorative mug. Sorry, I do not carry money during the race.
- This was one of the worst post-race food parties I have seen with dry bagels (no spread), bananas, water and chips only.
Overall, I would like to return to Gettysburg to visit but not necessarily to race unless thing get improved.


Was not impressed, and won't do again (about: 2013)
Course: 2 Organization: 3 Fans: 2
W. M. from Washington, DC (4/29/13)
4-5 previous marathons | 1 Gettysburg North-South Marathon

Would not recommend.

COURSE: I didn't have an opportunity to drive the course prior to race day, so I was going based only on the online elevation chart, along with a couple other runners who described it as 'rolling hills'. To me, this ended up being a vast understatement. True, there wasn't one singular, truly awful climb, but there are 10-12 medium-sized ones. The majority of these are in the first half of the course, but there are three solid ones from mile 14 on, including one at mile 24. This is a slow course. It's also extremely desolate  you will go a few miles without seeing a single spectator, and that is not an exaggeration. The country roads and farms are mildly interesting at first, but for me the boredom factor came into play pretty quickly.

ORGANIZATION: This is not a well-organized race. To start, about a 1/4 mile in, a cop let the two leaders overshoot the course by roughly 100 meters (they ran right by him without him saying anything) until OTHER RUNNERS had to yell for them to double back. Most egregiously, there were no aid stations set up between mile 8 and mile 14 when I passed (admittedly, near the front, but still). There was a table set up for the mile 10.5 aid station, but no cups of water and Gatorade and nobody manning the station. Guess the volunteers were running late? That's a pretty cardinal sin for my money. Also included in the comedy of errors was a shuttle bus driver getting lost and causing a large contingent of spectators to arrive late at one of the designated 'viewing areas'.

SPECTATORS: Like I said, it's pretty desolate, but I will say that the locals that you do encounter are at least enthusiastic. So that's something. Still, if you're someone who uses the energy of the crowd to get you through that last 10K, avoid this race. I didn't encounter a single spectator after mile 20, until I got to within 200 meters of the finish line.


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