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P.F. Chang's Rock 'n' Roll Arizona Marathon & Half Marathon
Phoenix, Scottsdale & Tempe, AZ USA
January 20, 2013

Contact Information
Name: P.F. Chang's Rock 'n' Roll Arizona
Address: Competitor Group Inc.
9477 Waples St. STE. 150
San Diego, CA 92121
Phone Number: 800-311-1255
Fax Number:
Email:  
Official Race Website: http://runrocknroll.competitor.com/arizona

Runner Comments
I have run this marathon, and I want to add my comments about it.
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Great race all around! (about: 2012)
Course: 5 Organization: 4 Fans: 5
J. S. from Quincy, IL (5/8/13)
3 previous marathons | 1 Rock 'n' Roll Arizona Marathon

Did this race as my second marathon and I ended up running a personal record of over 10 minutes. I would consider this a good fast course. I would definitely love to run this marathon again. I put down a 4 for the race starting late even though it worked out to my benefit since I had to use the restroom still, but every race should start out on time regardless.


Great run in my home state (about: 2013)
Course: 5 Organization: 5 Fans: 5
Rob Hazelett from Denver, CO. (4/24/13)
11-50 previous marathons | 1 Rock 'n' Roll Arizona Marathon

I really enjoyed running the Rock 'n' Roll Arizona Marathon. I want to definitely point out the crowd support was wonderful and the aid stations were well placed and well stocked, especially since it turned out to be one of my slowest marathons.
The only problem I had with the course was during my run from miles 11-19 into Scottsdale that were an an out-and-back course. But hey, it just made us cheerful spectators for the first four miles clapping for the leaders and then cheerful supporters for the next four miles pulling for our comrades trailing us.
I highly recommend running this marathon and will run it again myself because it's in my home state and there isn't a better month than January to run a race in Phoenix.
It's a little pricey to register, but it's part of the Rock 'n' Roll series, so register early!
It was well organized and I thoroughly enjoyed the expo and interaction with some of the premier runners the marathon currently has to offer.
Keep up the good work.
P.S. The medal is huge, typical of a Rock 'n' Roll marathon finisher's medal and has a fantastic design.


Extremely well-organized; would repeat. (about: 2013)
Course: 5 Organization: 5 Fans: 4
Robin Grover from Alexandria, VA (1/23/13)
11-50 previous marathons | 1 Rock 'n' Roll Arizona Marathon

I thought it was a wonderful race; no shortage of fluids, reasonably good bands (or piped music) and spectator support, a good Expo with lots of quality booths, no shortage of really fine people, young and older, volunteering to help and being of great help. Broad streets on the route, never felt crowded, a very nice bunch of runners.

Meeting Frank Shorter and listening to him speak at the Expo was a bonus. Started out with a great (for me) Half, but my legs cramped at 16 miles due to new shoes and no socks (my stupidity, had nothing to do with R&R), but I finished, laid down on the ground and had involuntary leg muscle spasms (again, nothing to do with the race organizion or organizers, my fault solely). They were great at the Volunteer Med Tent with a bottle of Gatorade to restore the salt/electrolyte balance, which ended the muscle spasms (though my feet are still badly cut).

Only two criticisms. 1) I would start the Full an hour earlier to avoid the late morning sun; and, 2) the finish area had very little non-alcoholic food and drink for sale outside the runner chute.

I would have thought this would be golden for such vendors, given the total number of runners (18,000 in both Half and Full) and their families hanging around. My advice is to stay at one of the downtown hotels (I was at the Hyatt, which like others, is about 100 yards from the start line).
Overall, a job very well done by R&R, just the same experience as I've had in their other races.


Needs to get back to basics (about: 2013)
Course: 3 Organization: 4 Fans: 2
W. C. from Phoenix, AZ (1/22/13)
11-50 previous marathons | 2 Rock 'n' Roll Arizona Marathons

I didn't run this year, was cheering a friend from the sidelines, but I've done the full twice before (including the inaugural 10 years ago). To the previous poster who complained about the weatherthat definitely couldn't have been accounted for and a suddenly announced earlier start would have been a mess logistically, especially since Competitor nixed bus transport to the start after the 2011 race and all runners must use the light rail system. (BTW, Metro Phoenix had below freezing temps and highs in the 40's the week before the marathon, so my friend who ran thought the 60-70 temps were perfect). However, it's evident that Competitor is really in all of the RnR races for the money, not for charity, the city, or even for the love of competitive running. So if you're looking for a smaller, more personal,less generic race, there are several to choose from in AZ now between January and March. This marathon is well-organized and can be a PR course, but is currently at least $25 too expensive and I foresee that it will continue losing participants. Ideally Competitor would reach out to the Phoenix running community and the community at large to improve, but since it is a big cooperate 'machine', unless something goes drastically wrong here (a la Vegas in 2011) nothing will change.


Please look at your race day promises (about: 2013)
Course: 3 Organization: 2 Fans: 3
J. G. from PHOENIX, AZ (1/22/13)
First Marathon

Overall the race was fine, but parking was a disaster. Materials said traffic would be directed into a certain garage. There was zero direction. I know this isn't the first time this issue has come up either.. FIX IT!


RnR you're going thru the motions and it shows... (about: 2013)
Course: 3 Organization: 3 Fans: 3
M. G. from AZ (1/21/13)
50+ previous marathons | 6+ Rock 'n' Roll Arizona Marathons

Have run all 10 and many other RnR races, I think it's time for some new energy and honest introspection.

# of entrants were down again this year. Maybe too many other RnR races, maybe runners are tiring of the lapses, maybe too many other better choices, maybe RnR continues to ignore the feedback - good or bad.

The good: Easy packet pick-up, Expo had plenty to peruse, Race started on time, Volunteers very friendly, Miles clearly marked, Tech shirt had good design, color.

Lackluster: Medal was good but smaller this year, Almost no crowds/cheering along course, Course has nothing memorable; miles 21-25 through industrial boredom (could almost here crickets out there), Bands barely played and only a few (maybe 6 or 7?) - not even close to covering 26 miles, Clocks not all working, Inconsistent water stops; many without Gatorade.

The bad: This year was 10th annual - legacy runner info inaccurate, Ran out of most of post-race fluids/food with a third of runners still on course - even pulling down tables as runners came through, Emphasis more on half than full entrants, Race bag full of wasteful leaflets, samples you can't travel back with.

Overall - this race has almost no energy; nothing compelling - other than excellent weather. Course is pancake flat, plenty of width but most all of it is boring. They need to rethink the path, get neighborhoods way more involved, try to add some 'wow' somewhere along the course, give this race some 'oomph'. There are way better choices out there; RnR races used to be fun and full of characternow they're just money machines setting up shop all across the country. Caveat emptor...


What has happened to Rock N Roll's? (about: 2013)
Course: 4 Organization: 1 Fans: 5
C. Y. from Louisiana (1/21/13)
11-50 previous marathons

First RnR in about 3 years and very likely our last. Little medal, almost nothing in the runner's village (unless you paid extra); had to walk a mile for a free beer (which we didn't) and everything was an extra charge. Couldn't even get water at the start line unless you paid another huge fee.
It's not their fault that it was brutally hot for January in Phoenix, but they could have started the race an hour earlier to help the slower runners. Spectators and course support were good although not nearly as many bands as the past.
All-in-all, very expensive race (and I didn't buy all the extras) and cured me of RnR's for a long time to come.


Great Time in Phoenix for a Marathon (about: 2012)
Course: 4 Organization: 4 Fans: 5
C. K. from Southern Oregon, USA (5/10/12)
6-10 previous marathons | 1 Rock 'n' Roll Arizona Marathon

For Phoenix, the weather was perfect for a marathon. The course ran through varied sections of the metro area. The spectators were numerous and great. I loved interacting with the locals, especially the little kids standing there so thrilled to get high-fives from the runners. The school cheer crews were also fantastic. I loved the bands and the variety of music. My favorite part of the course was making the turn and heading toward Camelback Mountain. Awesome and inspiring view. The on-course and finish organization was spot on. The start was organized well, but, the late start was annoying. The running crowd I was with was friendly and enjoyable. There was about a 10k out-and-back section and I really cherished the camaraderie with the oncoming runners in both directions. I really enjoyed my experience.


Fun Course, Well Organized (about: 2012)
Course: 4 Organization: 5 Fans: 3
D. D. from Denver, CO (2/16/12)
3 previous marathons | 1 Rock 'n' Roll Arizona Marathon

Nice Flat course, well organized considering the debacles that I have heard some RnR races can turn into.


marathon has left much to be desired (about: 2012)
Course: 2 Organization: 4 Fans: 2
D. D. from Cleveland, OH (2/11/12)
4-5 previous marathons | 1 Rock 'n' Roll Arizona Marathon

I was looking forward to this marathon, being my first Rock-n-Roll marathon. While the Expo was well organized and easy to navigate, I was disappointed in the race experience itself. I was going for a PR (personal record) and was hoping the crowd cheering and bands would help my motivation in the later stages of the race. For it being a 'Rock-n-Roll' marathon, I was disappointed in the number of bands, I thought there'd be more.

Additionally, while there were spectators throughout the marathon course, the spectators didn't really cheer. It seemed like they were always looking for the runner they knew, but not cheering on everyone else! I know it's hard to constantly be cheering as a spectator, but it was eerily quiet while running, not very motivating. Needless to say, I didn't PR, but wasn't too far off. I wouldn't recommend it for anyone who thrives off crowd support.


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