By: Joe Ely
Posted: June 17, 2017
General Organization of Race in Decline
I've run the full or half at Sunburst in 11 of the past 13 years. In short, I've seen the attention to detail in this race decline over the years.
What I saw this year was some misattention to the full details of course marking. I almost missed a turn and saw another runner miss one altogether...though a volunteer ran and helped him turn around.
I did learn on race day there was a major course mixup for some marathon and half marathon leaders which ended up adding nearly a mile to their course. And then the final ranking was juggled on the claim of one runner, vaulting him over other runners who crossed the finish line ahead of him. This just shouldn't be.
This race could be a magnificent regional fixture but the details are leaking. I honestly wonder if the organizers would feel better by dropping the marathon altogether and just have a half/10K/5K extravaganza. Only 300 of us started the marathon and fewer finished.
I wish the organizers the best. They have some work to do, though, IMHO.
By: Terence B.
Posted: June 04, 2017
Need separate course for 5K's
I came from out of town and went to the expo the day before. Nice sized for a marathon with less than 300 finishers. I got to the start line a little later than I wanted, but the bathroom line went quick, because there were plenty of porta-potties for the size of the event at the 6:30 start.
The course had A LOT of turns, and a few short out and backs that really sucked momentum and made focusing on tangents a priority. The good thing is each turn was well marked or had a volunteer giving directions. Plenty of water stops for the hot day as well. Some timely hills in the last seven miles were pretty big challenges as well.
The unforgivable sin of the event was the 5K shared the same final 1.5 miles of the course. By the time I got there it was full of walkers. They covered the entire road, and I lost a lot of speed and gained distance weaving through them. Any Marathoner from 3:00-3:35 probably had to contend with 5K walkers at the end.
The chute was well stocked until at least the 4:00 marathoners/half marathoners finished; It looked like enough stuff for the rest of marathoners coming through over the next two hours. At first I was annoyed by the ~2000 5K finishers, but I just cut the 'line' and grabbed food off the table. It wasn't supposed to be a line anyway; you take what you want from the table and leave.
By: Jacob G.
Posted: June 04, 2017
Don't do the race. They will mess up something.
So I was in the lead pack and wasn't directed to turn on a road was no sign and a cop was there but wasn't telling runners to turn and the group and I ended up running down a little more than a half mile before a volunteer at an intersection said we went the wrong way. Then we went back to the road to make the correct turn. It added 1.17 miles. When we got back to that road a sunburst race volunteer was then at the spot directing people. I had to bust tail to catch up to the other marathon people who got directed the correct way. I ended up crossing the finish line 3rd. Well one of the runners who got misdirected with me complained to race director about the 1.17 mile issue and they gave him 2nd place dropping another guy down to 3rd and me to 4th. They also gave him a bogus 2:45 because he said he had that time on his watch at 26.2. Mind you I passed this guy at mile 20.5 too! Moral of the story don't do Sunburst they always have had mistakes in the last 5 years.
By: James G.
Posted: June 06, 2016
Alternate Course too Long
Every person with GPS devise had the marathon 26.88 to 26.99. I personally had 26.91miles. Sunburst is going to have it re-measured but .7 off would be a huge error for GPS and since I've yet to find anyone with the course coming in the ball park of 26.2 tells me something went wrong with the course. It's a decent race to run but the course length this year is an issue. The course has many side tangents and out and backs that are annoying in my opinion. This race is a good race course away form being a wonderful event.
By: Beth K.
Posted: June 06, 2016
Great scenic course
This was my fist Sunburst Marathon and I thought it was great. The course was very well marked with lots of volunteers, every one was really nice and supportive. The course was beautiful along the river and my favorite part was running through the zoo. I would definitely recommended this race to others. By far it has been my favorite marathon course
By: Matt E.
Posted: June 05, 2016
Big Let Down
This was my 20th year in a row running this race and third marathon. Two big complaints. Inexcusable that the race was actually about 27.0 miles long. Organizers improbably measured the course. I feel sorry for those that just missed a Boston qualifying time. This should never happen. Also, this race needs a separate tent for the marathoners at the finish. The 5k walkers and runners hit the tent like vultures and leave nothing for the people that actually need it and paid $90 for their race. Not a bad race but this event has had some issues the last few years and needs improving.
By: amands r.
Posted: June 05, 2016
Do not run this race
For the following reasons:
1. IT IS LONG. over 1/2 mile long (.8 on my Garmin) and this all happens in one mile so we know they measured wrong. That's pretty important: that a marathon be 26.2 miles, no?
2. It runs through a 'zoo' that is about as inhumane of a facility as I've ever seen. Think: lions in dog pens.
3. There is a horrible steep hill at mile 25.5. seems to me that could be avoided easily.
4. MOBS of bugs all along the river path.
The only upsides I have to this race are the volunteers (great), the # of water stops (tons) and the fact that as a 50stater, one can check Indiana off the list. That's it unless and until they learn to measure or PETA steps in.
By: Joe E.
Posted: June 10, 2015
Solid Marathon, good ending for Notre Dame people
This was the 10th time I've run the full or half at Sunburst. The entire marathon course was flip-flopped from earlier years. While basically OK, it moved one major hill from what used to be mile 11 to mile 23 now.
Construction at ND stadium really triggered other course addenda, with several funky little out and backs to get 26.2 put together.
It seemed a smaller marathon than what I remember...I don't know if the lack of finishing inside the ND stadium was the factor or the glut of marathons we have options to enter now.
My Dad played football at ND, so this is always a terrific race for me. I loved the course change to route us down Notre Dame Avenue in the last mile, with the striking view of the Golden Dome right ahead. That was special, as I remembered and honored my Dad, a 1938 graduate.
Thanks to the organizers for all their hard work!
By: Tracy E.
Posted: June 06, 2015
Nice race overall
I've ran this marathon several times & with the exception of just a couple items, this years' event was very nice.
After having the same course for several years, this years' course was changed. Buetter Park was placed at the beginning, which was much nicer & the run through IUSB, Greenlawn & Colfax was really nice & fairly shaded.
The 10k merged with the marathon for a few miles starting at IUSB. For about a mile it was fairly congested because of the sidewalks. However, if you weren't racing, it wasn't that bad & a nice change of pace having new company.
The second half of the race was (for the most part) the first half of the old course. With the exception of the miles on the river walk, this was tough. This part of the course is fairly boring & had a couple new short out & backs. At this point in the race, it would be nice to have a bit better course. However, running this area most weekends, I don't know that many other options exist.
The last mile & finish were great. I was afraid that the change to the finish area would take something away from the race, but I think I like it better. It was great to come down Eddy St & see the finish vs running around the stadium, which always seems to take forever :)
Medals were great & shirts were ok. The amount of safety patrols on bikes on the course was outstanding! And they were stocked with everything - very good add there!!
The only thing I didn't like was that my Garmin showed an extra half mile. I run many, many marathons & know how to run the tangents, etc. & I know this course is certified...so, I'm not sure how I ended with so much more. I've never had that much of excess mileage in a marathon before. Very well could be me & not the course, but it's definitely not something you want to see in a marathon :)
By: Simone H.
Posted: March 04, 2015
small town gem
I chose this marathon based on date only; my 17 year old daughter wanted to complete her first marathon and had limited availability. What a happy surprise! Every person we met - taxi driver, hotel clerks, restaurant staff, and marathon volunteers were friendly and helpful. Packet pick up was a breeze. Start time allowed for cool morning running, and the course followed the river and provided much shade. Aid stations offered wet sponges (awesome!). Plenty of cheering from the community; in addition, residents set up sprinklers and handed out bottled water along the way. Plenty of finish food - even for a 4:54 finish! Sat in the stadium and took pics. Shuttle bus back to start was a tour bus - no sticking to old school bus vinyl - and was air conditioned! Yes! Only negative of the whole race - aid station at 23 was out of water (but had gatorade). Not to worry, random resident 2 blocks down had us covered! I will be back for 2015 :) Thanks for a great, organized race!
By: Shannon M.
Posted: July 12, 2014
Sunburst was meh.
Unfortunately it has been almost two months since I ran this race and I am still having difficulty with my review of it.
I gave the spectators a 5, not because there were many out on the course, but the community was great when I was out there and it got HOT.
The course was the worst thing about that race. Too many out and backs and I was a slower runner and saw TWO lead men who were going back the wrong way on the course. I looked at a course map ahead of time, but not being from the area it did not make much sense to me. Course markings were extremely poorly done and I could see how someone could get lost (I almost did several times).
I don't know if I would return to this race. I try really hard not to be overly picky about runner 'perks' but this was just not a great event for anyone who is slower (like me). If I were the race director, I would evaluate whether or not to drop the full marathon and just focus on the half and 10k and 5k. When I merged with those folks it was HORRIBLE and practically a stampeded. One girl got elbowed and fell on the bridge and almost got trampled.
I just was not impressed with this event at all. I doubt I will be back.
By: Greg H.
Posted: June 17, 2014
Great race, great city
I was not sure about running this after they announced that the finish would be outside Notre Dame Stadium this year. However, their excellent job of communicating the change convinced me to stick with it. I'm glad I did. South Bend was a great small city. The course was pretty - could've done without the two points where you are passing people who are three miles ahead of you. The organization was top-notch. I love the 6 am starting time. It did get pretty hot towards the end, but overall I would definitely recommend this race.
By: Joe Ely
Posted: June 05, 2014
Solid race, a favorite of mine
This was the 8th of the last 9 years I've run the half or full at Sunburst. There were more course changes this year and in any previous year. I really didn't mind them,even though they added two significant hills over the full 26.2.
Due to construction, the race couldn't finish on the field at Notre Dame Stadium. The organizers did a good job, though, of compensating with a very nice finish area just on the north side of the stadium.
The organziers did a fine job of setting up the post race food. Great variety and plenty of it, even after my 4:39 marathon.
Love this race...it's a good one.
By: Scott C.
Posted: June 04, 2014
Very well done
I was concerned about the heat, but the 6am start and running by the river and with trees largely offset the warm weather.
Real nice course. LOVED that the 1/2 started 90 minutes later!
They must have listened to earlier comments because there was an abundance of food at the finish and we got to sit in the stands of the Fighting Irish Stadium to eat it all.
A real good marathon!
By: Scot A.
Posted: June 01, 2014
Horrible course-
This is a small race at the end of May, it will be hot, it will be lightly attended. If you are okay with that, read on:
The course has multiple out and backs. The first two are marked however around mile 19, you'll be running against marathon traffic on the same path. no separated course. I had multiple volunteers tell me I was running the wrong way.
The race incorporates a lot of park trails. Some with low hanging trees and overhangs. Runners over 6ft will be ducking. All runners will be forced to weave shift and shimmy around poorly chosen routes.
The same water stations are used on the long out and back. Again, not separated so you'll feel like running through walmart on black friday after mile 18.
Confusion on the course could have been reduced by learning the route prior to the race. However, no course map was included with packet. The online course preview was in a format which wouldn't allow users to zoom in.
Two moto police guided the lead runner in, however, lead female was left to fend for herself alone.
Sunburst, divide the out and back course, update the course, or inform volunteers where to direct traffic, and this could be an acceptable race. Until then, this event is not recommended.
By: Benjamin Brown
Posted: May 31, 2014
This race has achieved excellence.
This was my first Sunburst Marathon, but after reading some of the pros and cons of past years, it seems to me that the race director has read them as well and improved upon all aspects where needed. The medal is fine, the shirt is excellent, there was music on the course, etc etc. None of these points are that critical to me, though. Moreso, when running a marathon with multiple other races going on, I like to see that the marathon has been given full consideration, as in the 2nd half of the race is as enjoyable as the first half. Sunburst does an excellent job of that. This course is scenic from start to finish which is a great psychological boost. The heat is not much of a factor b/c of the 6AM start, but spectators hosing you down if you wish really helps (thank you to the little girl at Mile 23)! The course is very shady and has great potential for a PR. The shuttle service worked great and the local hotels really support the races with their checkout times. I appreciate the Magnuson being pet friendly and 100% smoke free. The only race suggestion I have would be to consider adding a few more on course port-o-potties.
By: elizabeth adams
Posted: June 08, 2013
good race
Great race to run but barely any spectators and hardly any food at finish and I wasn't even that late of a time... course was very flat.... water sponges on the course was AMAZING, never had that before but was a major highlight! Finish was the best at the stadium! great memories...
By: Joe Ely
Posted: June 02, 2013
An annual favorite!
I really like this race. I've run either the full or the half for 7 of the past 8 years. This year I did the full again and was very pleased with the entire event.
There are many pros to this race. The early start for the full is good. Simple running the full with only other marathoners is a huge plus. The course is very enjoyable...much of it along the St Joe river, much of it shaded (though we didn't need that so much on an overcast day in 2013). Volunteers were awesome. There was plenty of medical folks on bikes circulating the entire course.
The only con (a minor one) was the lack of bananas at the finish. By the time I got done and up to the stadium concourse (I ran a 4:26 marathon), there were only a stack of bagels and popsicles. I miss the old days when we could have popsicles on the field but I understand!
Without a doubt, the HUGEST pro for this race is the finish...the run onto the Notre Dame campus, circling the famous stadium, then down the tunnel and onto the hallowed turf of the Fighting Irish is just awesome. My Dad played football for ND back in the 30's and so this is a very wonderful and emotional way for me to remember him.
Thanks to Molly and all of her team for continuing to organize a big, complex and fantastic race day with many events and many runners.
By: Phillip T.
Posted: July 18, 2012
Nice race, some room for improvement
I'm a fairly local marathoner but have never ran the Sunburst marathon because of the history of horribly hot weather on race day. This year I gave it a shot & was greeted with perfect marathoning weather, which likely boosted my rating of the marathon itself.
The marathon has an early start which is great in minimizing the heat impact. This also allows marathoners to finish in the stadium while the crowd is still around as the other races start a bit later.
Positives - The course is basically pretty. It runs along the river in a couple of places & 4 miles or so through a Mishawaka park, also along the river. There are several out & backs, which I like because it tends to break things up & also allows you to see that there are still people behind you.
Water stations are plentiful & volunteers are great. Local spectators were sparse, but those that were out had sprinklers running & music playing. Fellow runners were very friendly & the race itself was generally enjoyable.
Negatives - Race communication was frequent enough but hard to read. I couldn't find info on bag drop & other info seemed a bit muddied.
Shirts & medals were really scrimped on. I'd much rather pay a bit extra & end up w/ a shirt I can wear & a medal that isn't just a piece of thin plastic. This is not a medal I'd want to display. The shirt is white & thin & not one that I'd want to sport around town or run in on a sweaty run.
The finish in the stadium is great. The downside is that you finish with the 5k walkers. Kudos to them for walking a 5k, don't get me wrong at all.
However, marathoners are forced to stand in a very long line of walkers just to exit the finish area. They then stand in another very long line of walkers in the post-race refreshment area.
The walkers seemed to take forever picking out their post-walk snacks & then loaded up on them. Post-marathon, I need to move a little, not stand in one line after another. I resorted to cutting in line to exit & then sneaking in-between them to grab just a bagel so I could get out of there.
A separate area for the walkers would have made this finish area so much better.
All-in-all, this race was good while running, just ok before & after.
By: Mike S.
Posted: June 13, 2012
Beyond my expectations
I was one of those people who were signed up for Madison the week before, which was cancelled. Luckily, we were able to change our flights at the last minute and run the Coeur d'Alene Marathon. Two days after that race, I'm looking for my next one and was surprised to find both cheap airfare and a fantastic weather forecast for South Bend the following weekend. Running marathons 6 days apart is not something I had planned, but the Sunburst Marathon was a good choice. The race was well organized, the weather was perfect and the finish at Notre Dame made it worthwhile. Staying at the Hilton next to the start line made the morning very easy, even with the 6am start, which I loved! The half marathoners started over an hour after the full, so they were never a factor. The whole first half of the course, we were never in the sun. The 2nd half had a few stretches of concrete and 1 block of bricks, but I can't complain. There are no big hills on this course and running along the St Joe river was nice. Even though I can scratch Indiana off my 50 states list, I would do this one again.
By: Richard J.
Posted: June 12, 2012
Great day for a race
Great organization and this year's weather was excellent. After 87 degrees at Boston and heat that cancelled Green Bay 2:40ish into their marathon, I was still trying to earn my BQ for next April. What a relief to drive up to South Bend and enjoy 48 degrees at the start.
Pros:
Super easy to walk up and register the day before.
Small field size with 446 finishers; you could easily hit the tangents at every opportunity.
Ample porta potties at the start; there were NO lines.
Ample free parking right at the registration and start.
Race starts right on time at 6 a.m.
Free bus ride back to the start from the stadium.
Finishing inside Notre Dame's stadium is one of the best anywhere.
Plenty of hydration, gels, bananas, etc. along the course.
Cons:
I laugh when some say the medal is substandard. Bling isn't important to me, nor the shirt, nor the Expo. Just give me a good course, good weather conditions and excellent race support and let the rest be up to me. Sure, the crowds are non-existent, but that's OK too.
The course is wonky especially the back half. It seemed that quite a few of the mile markers were off as my Garmin measured miles ranging from .94 to 1.07 so just concentrate on your pace and not so much on your lap splits.
And merging into the 5K walkers and half marathoners at about mile 24.5 can be annoying. Luckily I was able to maintain pace and finish strong.
Thanks Sunburst and yes, I did BQ by :31 !
By: JJ L.
Posted: June 09, 2012
Unlucky 13 & The Backup Plan....
I started my quest for marathon #13 in Madison WI and finished it six days later in South Bend IN. The folks in Madison canceled me down to a half so South Bend became my plan B. While it was much cooler, it was still sunny and warmed up by the end. An early 6 am start helped. There was ample free parking in the downtown area, so it was easy to drive in from a nearby hotel if you want to save the expense of a downtown one.
The expo was oddly outside at the College Football Hall of Fame. It seemed like they had lots of family friendly activities going on both Friday night and Saturday. The morning of the race, the Hall of Fame was open for shelter/restrooms.
The course wound around with lots of turns and double-backs but there was good scenery, ample water stops, plenty of signage/volunteers to show the way and adequate road control by the local police. It was relatively flat with one sustained (but not steep) incline toward the end.
Not much in the way of spectators except as you approached the finish in Notre Dame Stadium, which was a very cool experience. Post race food on the concourse inside the stadium out of the sun was also smart. The white race shirt was lame; the medal was even lamer but hey, on the other hand, I signed up five days before the race for $75. Throw in an inexpensive hotel and this was a cheap way to check off Indiana.
I'm not sure I'll be back because of the date and potential for really warm conditions (seems like signing up late is a possible strategy) but I would recommend it especially if you have any sort of ND or South Bend connection (which I did).
By: Daniel Petty
Posted: June 09, 2012
Small Scenic Marathon with Potential to be Great!
This was my 4th marathon (RnR St. Louis, '11/ING Miami '12/Garmin Oz '12). It was a little chilly during packet pickup but race day turned out to be perfect running weather! I know that this was out of everyone's control, but I enjoyed the perfect weather very much that we had for this year's marathon! It was a little windy but for me it was just the perfect day!
I did enjoy this marathon because there were a lot of good qualities however there is room for improvement and it can definitely become a much better event if some of these issues are corrected. I'll start with the pros.
Pros:
The expo and packet pick up the day before the race were pretty well organized. I arrived in South Bend on Friday and did not have any issues retrieving my packet and shirt.
The 6 a.m. early start with just the Marathoners was perfect. I wish more races would start the full and half separately.
I haven't experienced this in my running career yet but I very much appreciated the soaked sponges handed our towards the end of the race. Someone else handed our wet paper towels right before the last hill which was nice. This would have been very nice during the Miami Marathon, lol.
The marathon route is pretty flat and beautiful as it runs along the St. Joseph River. The course follows the river much of the race except for the downtown portion. The course was well marked for the most part. There were several twists and turns, and if you weren't paying attention, I can see how someone could get off course but I noticed that there was always at least one person at each turn with a sign pointing you in the right direction. There were lots of police and volunteers throughout and they all did a great job of blocking traffic and making sure everyone was safe.
There were plenty of fluid stations throughout the route. The water/Gatorade/GU stations were well spaced and stocked. There were also bananas given out at one point of the race.
Stadium Finish / Finishing in ND's stadium was really cool!! Initially this year's race wasn't supposed to finish in the stadium due to construction but it got completed early and so we were able to finish the stadium after all. As a result of the stadium initially being under construction, marathon registrations were down and actually about half of what they normally were.
At the post race finish area the treat stations were well stocked, which was good, and there really wasn't a line. I liked the cold, wet towels that they gave out. There were big cups of chopped water melon & cantaloupe and popsicles, chips and bagels. Definitely one of the best stocked post races I've been to.
Okay, here are the Cons:
First and foremost, the Sunburst Races NEED BETTER MEDALS. The marathon finisher medal is the most pathetic I have ever seen and very cheap. I have 5k fun run medals that blow this thing out of the water!
I would like to see MORE PHOTOGRAPHERS placed at more places along the course. I only noticed photographers at one spot on the course and then at the stadium. It would have been cool to have some photos with the St. Joseph river in the background.
There is NO MUSIC along the route. Please add some live music throughout the course in addition to the one man playing bag pipes.
There are NO SPECTATORS along the course to cheer you on. I can count on one hand the spectators who came and we went through a lot of neighborhoods too. The few that came out though were nice and some of them kindly offered their water hoses to the runners and/or had a small stereo playing. I have run 3 prior marathons and this was probably the fewest people along the course.
It would be cool to have a little MORE COURSE ON CAMPUS instead of running through residential areas that have such a lack of spectators.
Please change the format of the pre-race email! It was one extremely long paragraph and was hard to read and pull out specific details.
Finally, the last change that would suggest is giving out a different kind of tech shirt. How about making them green & gold tech shirts instead of see through white?
This race does have a lot going for it and I would recommend running it because it is such a scenic marathon and it is a beautiful area.
By: Loisirene B.
Posted: June 05, 2012
Volunteers great, course so-so, overall ok
Unlike last yr, temps were cooler this year. Water stops were manned by enthusiastic volunteers who ran to give you water-very nice. I suggest having some competition, costumes, more music, among the grps at the water stations to add some excitement. We always drive out the entire course to know what to expect but this time we couldn't as parts were in a park. The turn-around at mile 18 was in a park so you couldn't determine how far to go before the turnard. :(
The 6am start count explain the lack of crowds along the course. Maybe a community outreach to neighborhoods along the course would get people out to support runners?
No goodies in race package, only race applications a bit disappointing. Course seemed hillier (short steep ones)than shown on topo map but that could be me.
The early start with only marathoners was refreshing. Start line wasn't crowded since it was a small race.
I would try to get more vendors for the expo as if you needed something, you probably couldn't find it at the expo.
By: Paul M.
Posted: June 05, 2012
Pleasantly Surprised
Very solid medium-small sized marathon. The weather was great (I didn't sign up until the week of, just in case), the course was great - very scenic and mostly flat - and the volunteers were great.
I thought the post race could have been better, however. Meh food, meh medals, and an inexplicably long walk to the shuttles.
Still, overall a very good (and rather inexpensive) marathon.
By: Carol K.
Posted: June 05, 2012
Needs a lot of improvement
Good: Small number of runners makes it easy to navigate. The scenery along the river and through the Mishawaka parks is very, very pretty and lends a very good energy to the race. There are enough hills to make it interesting but it's mostly flat and fast.
Bad: 1.The course is so convoluted in spots that it's enough to give you nightmares. There are times when you don't know whether you're coming or going and seriously wonder if you're off course. The finish in the stadium is nice but you have to watch yourself going through the tunnel (it's dark and the footing is a bit uneven). You should also be prepared to climb stairs to get out of the stadium after you finish.
2. This is the only marathon I've ever run where there are no timers on the course, not even at the halfway so you can compare your first and second half splits. If you are timing yourself be careful: the half way is not marked and there are always mile markers that are significantly off (this happens every year). If a runner has a mind to cheat, this is the race to do it as there are ample opportunities.
3. After almost 30 years you'd think the directors would incite civic pride by encouraging residents to form a group or two to cheer people on. Marathoners come from all over and get an impression of a city by those who come out to cheeror not. Very few spectators and few of them cheering for anyone except their one special person.
4. You pay the standard price for this marathon and get substandard returns. The directors are either cheapskates or the rental and permit costs are exorbitant. For example: In addition to no timers on the course the souvenirs are a joke. The poster is small and undistinctive, the t-shirt is white and see-through and the medal is nothing less than an insult. It's a cheap, plastic, toy-like affair that puts you in mind of a tinfoil-wrapped chocolate coin.
I've paid less for races and gotten a lot more.
I do this race because it's my hometown but I honestly can't recommend it except with reservations.
By: Matt W.
Posted: June 05, 2012
Fun Small Marathon
Sunburst was my ninth marathon and having just relocated to South Bend, I wanted to try it out. I was pleasantly surprised. The course is very flat and goes along the river. We got very lucky with the weather. I had read comments from previous years around the heat. 2012 was 50-65 degrees for the entire race.
Good
-Nice course which highlights the best areas of the city
-Loved the early (6am) start with marathoners only
-Volunteers were friendly and well trained
-Finish in the Notre Dame Football Stadium was unique and very cool
-Lots of water stations and Gu along the route
Bad
-Little/no crowd support
-The finisher medal was very bad. I would gladly pay an extra ten dollars for a real medal
-No bottled water at the finish. The whole food situation at the finish was a bit confusing
If you are looking for a small marathon in the midwest, I would recommend Sunburst. It's easy logistically and the finish is very unique.
By: Marc R.
Posted: June 03, 2012
Superb...Again!
I'm biased-I love this event, and have done it a handful of times. The weather was absolutely perfect this year; sometimes this is a really hot event so people considering this event should be aware that hot/humid conditions are a real possibility.
Organization was great. The expo is small, but packet pick up has a lot of energy with all kinds of activities. This year, Dick Beardsley was there which was fun.
The course is winding, so pay attention. Volunteers were outstanding, though, and very encouraging. Finishing in the stadium is always a fun experience.
Will definitely plan to run this race again.
By: Josh D.
Posted: June 02, 2012
Great Weather, Flat Course...Piss Poor Medal
Check:
1. Numerous water stations throughout the course
2. Expo Center is at the College Hall of Fame
3. Race is planned well, the races staggered perfectly.
4. Flat course, couple of inclines but nothing big.
5. Finish in the ND Stadium!
Minus:
1. Confusing course, several double backs and turns.
2. The finishers Medallion is by far the WORST EVER that I have to receive to date.
3. Not too many spectators.
Recommend for at least one go however I will not return.
By: kermit r.
Posted: August 20, 2011
i will not recommend this race
pros:
1- bill rogers was at the event
2- got to check out the college HOF
3- easy packet pickup, easy parking overall
4- stadium finish
cons:
1- June is poor time to hold this event. it's not the first time there have been heat complications for this race. at least start the race at 5am like other hot races like Tupelo
2- white tech shirts, does anyone know what a wet, white tech shirt looks like? yup, through. besides, the writing on it was light yellow and could barely be seen.
3- south bend just isn't a scenic place. at least portions were run on the st. joe's river. pretty sure we hit every dump enroute to the stadium though.
4- the finisher medal is the most pathetic i've ever seen. i have 5k fun run medals that blow this thing out of the water.
5- anyone thinking there may be some type of Notre Dame undertone or feeling to this race should abandon those thoughts entirely. aside from the finish in the stadium... nothing. how bout a fightin irish instead of that creepy sunburst character? how bout green & gold tech shirts instead of see through white? how bout a little more course on campus instead of running through old rundown residential areas? how bout a fall or early spring race date so that the campus is alive and maybe a few thousand young people will be participating or cheering or simply around?
seriously, what's the draw to this race? 'finishing' in Notre Dame stadium is not worth the prior 26.19 miles. this race felt more like a hot group training run than a race event i drove a couple hours to.
definite pass on this one until changes are made.
By: James G.
Posted: July 18, 2011
Got lost...HOT and the end merges to many people!
The race seems well organized and registration was what I expected.
The race course is poorly marked! I was alone in 7th when running through a neighborhood with many turns and no one directing runners (about 10 miles in). The course does have arrows on the road, but Im not the type of runner who runs a marathon with my head down looking for arrows. Need barricades or people at each corner. When getting into the said area, there were many volunteers on a corner. Had they spread them out, problem may have been solved. Its difficult when youre alone on a course you are unfamiliar with many turns to know where youre going. If I had I been running in a crowd it may not have been a problem.
Then on the way towards mile 20 there was an arrow pointing to the right (not the direction of the course!) and many runners were running back toward me wondering where to go. Should NEVER happen for the effort and money people have to put in for a marathon.
I grew up in the area and have run the 5k and 10 many times but the marathon course needs to be addressed.
OH&it was really HOT&. The aid stations were sufficient; they had plenty of fluids etc. Only comment there is that they had PLASTIC cups! Its easier to drink while running if you pinch the cup, but plastic cups break when you pinch them&.
Ill personally never do the marathon at sunburst again. Ill come back for the 5 or 10k though.
By: Roger V.
Posted: July 06, 2011
Mother Nature Isnt a Runner!!
First time at this race, was really looking forward to it because of the course and being a big ND fan. Unfortunate the race wasn't the high-light I had envisioned, but not because of the race director or support staff. They were all wonderful! Emergency personnel were everywhere also so kudos to them too.
The weather ruined it all, and until we can learn how to control that we can't blame anyone associated with the race. I personally had been training for a 3:45-4:00hr finish but until the weekend before the race had no heat & humidity to train in. Both took their toll on me by mile 15. I had hit the halfway point in 1:50 and still felt strong but was still mostly in the shady part of the course. I suffered extreme dehydration the second half and crossed the finished line at 5:06, only moments before the black flag came out. While I was lucky enough to finish prior to being cancelled, it was the right decision.
I don't know if walking most of the last 6-8 miles qualifies as completing a marathon but so be it. I had enough left in the tank to run the last ½ mile or so and down the ramp. I guess being hardheaded can be a detriment, I listened to my body enough to stop running when I could no longer split, but I wouldn't listen enough to withdraw.
I know it isn't easy to plan an event such as these, but given the weather issues the last couple years, perhaps flipping the course and heading out to Mishawaka first and back through the shadier portion last before heading into the Stadium might help.
By: Michel B.
Posted: June 12, 2011
Perfect, except the weather!
Love, love, love this course! Truly a course that manages an urban setting, along with natural resources (um, a river) very well. Packet pick-up was a breeze, even got to meet Bill Rodgers! :) Could have used better marking, better maps ahead of time, but really enjoyed the winding nature of the route.
Now, about the heat and subsequent black flag...I've never been so hot! It was brutal. THANK YOU to the volunteers, crew, etc., who took such good care of everyone in what, to me, was truly a crisis situation. Impressive.
By: George R.
Posted: June 11, 2011
Fantastic for 25 miles!
This was my 6th marathon in a span of 49 days, and my second in 6 days. I ran Buffalo the Sunday before, in about the same conditions. It was very hot and humid, 75 at the start and over 90 by 11am in South Bend. The race director black flagged the race a little after 11. Overall, this was a very good event.
Here are my comments:
The Great: 1) The expo and packet pick up the day before the race was excellent. Very easy and well organized. 2) The 6AM early start with just the Marathoners was perfect. I wish more races would start the full and half separately. 3) The course was very nice, following the river much of the race except for the downtown portion. 4) Probably most important, There were many, many water stops that were well stocked with water, gatorade, and friendly staff. It got very hot, 90+, and the stops were 1st class. 5) Second most important was the great medical support. There were medics on bikes all over the place. For those of us towards the back, they kept asking us if we were ok or if we needed anything. I saw two runners in trouble, and they both had medical personal around them.
The good: The course was well marked for the most part. There were several twists and turns, and if you weren't paying attention, I can see how someone could get off course.
The Bad: The finish. I was at mile 24 3/4s when we got word the race was black flagged and officially over. The clocks were turned off at that point. I was with a group of about 4 others, and we were all doing well with no problems, so we kept going. Police came around and informed us that the race was over, but we could keep going if we went on the side walk, which we did. I got to the stadium and finished at the 50, which was cool, and got my medal. I finished about 15 minutes after the clocks were turned off. They did have cold, wet towels for us at the finish, but it seemed to be a bit chaotic at that point. There was no water or food visually available, and they made an announcement for us to leave the field and head towards the shuttle busses as soon as possible. I did ask a nice volunteer for some water, and she had to go to the far end zone to get me a small cup. That was nice of her, but we should have had plenty of water right at the finish.
The Ugly: After running 26.2 in the heat, we had to walk about 1/2 mile completely around the stadium again to the shuttle bus. We just kept walking and walking, and walking. A couple I was walking with said he wished he would have turned his garman back on to check the distance. There has to be a closer place to pick up runners.
After the race: I have to give big kudos to the race director, Molly. Since the clock was turned off, I didn't get an official time. I emailed her my time and asked her if there was anyway I could get an official time since I'm a 50 stater, and I knew my time. She did post my time to active.com, thus giving me an official finish. It had to be a hard decision to end the race with so many people still on the course ( I would guess about 75, but I have no idea how many dropped out), but it was 100% the right decision. A runner in a half marathon in Chicago passed away on the course the same day as this race because of the heat. To my knowledge, there were no serious injuries here, and the medical staff and the director get all the credit in the world for that.
I would recommend this race, just make sure you are conditioned for potential hot and humid weather.
By: Rouzbeh A.
Posted: June 08, 2011
EXTREMELY HOT DAY!
For me, I think it was a good learning experience. I think the course was longer than 26.2 miles based on my phone app but those things are sometimes wrong. Here are the pros and cons:
Pros:
The route was nice and scenic.
The volunteers were nice and worked really hard in an extremely hot day.
A few spectators who came out were nice and some of them kindly offered their water hoses to the runners which was refreshing.
There was a free 15 minute massage at the end and the line for it was not that long.
Cons:
It was an extremely hot day. My performance decreased by 50% due to the excessive heat during the last 1.5 hour of the race. I never faced that problem before. Be prepared for the heat.
Parts of the race (from mile 14-18 and from mile 20-24) were in the streets with no shades whatsoever. Again, you may like running in this condition but it was really difficult for me.
I think the race needed more water stops towards the end.
Not that many spectators were out and other than a gentleman playing bagpipe there was no live or recorded music during the course.
Finally, I think the route has some confusing turns but to be fair, there was always one person with a sign to guide you to the right direction.
By: Joe V.
Posted: June 08, 2011
Potential Great Race ends horribly
I first want to compliment the volunteers, who were excellent. The course was nice as well.
And now, the rest of the story. A decision was made to call the race due to excessive heat, which I am ok with. What is unacceptable is turning off the race clocks and giving a DNF to runners who completed the full course. This impacted me, and by my estimation, at least 30 other runners. I did not find out the race was shut down until being within yards of the finish line, where there the timing mats were turned up, and the clock turned off. The volunteers were even told to quit giving out finishers medals even though they kept calling our names. I emailed the race director 3 days ago requesting to have an official time entered, and have not received a response. Obviously, she does not care, so I am considering a lawsuit to recover the entry fee and travel expenses if I am not given an official finish. Feel free to contact me if you are interested in participating.
By: John K.
Posted: June 06, 2011
Enjoyable event but warm!
The 2011 Sunburst was my 46th marathon overall, and first Sunburst. I found a lot to like about it. Sorry race director but I am now only going to mention the bad things. The course is difficult to navigate, you can't put it on auto-pilot. Lots of turns, not always well marked/staffed. 1st half is well-shaded, but 2nd half is in wide open sun. There are many water stops but I would suggest even more in final half given typical sun/heat. I strongly suggest one consider his/her heat tolerance before registering for this race and strategize accordingly. And once registered, definitely plan to pay close attention as you run to stay on-course and you should be OK. Also, my Garmin recorded a distance of 27.2 miles but I'm not sure if I'm the only one those things are not always correct. I'm not familiar with South Bend but I sense the race director puts on the best possible race at that time of year given what she has to work with in terms of logistics, weather and surrounding area. Nice effort, overall enjoyable event despite the above.
By: Monica NOwac
Posted: June 06, 2011
Great course but bitter about this year
First off let me say that overall I think I would have really liked this marathon, I just had a huge issue with the way the closing of the race from the heat this year (2011) was handled.
Let's start with the good - small crowd, around 900 for the full, made the expo and starting line on race day morning super easy. Race started at 6am and I got there at 5:50am and had no issue lining up.
I like that the full, and the other races start at different time and the course was very nice and ran along some pretty views of nice parks and nice neighborhoods. Spectators are here and there and the volunteers at the water stops were very enthusiastic and there was plenty of water, GU and bananas to be had.
Now to the bad. the race director decided to close the course this year b/c it was over 90 and I completely understand. HOWEVER, I was told that they were closing the course when I was at mile 25, I was told by the volunteers that we could finish at our own discretion. After walking the last 6 miles of the race b/c of heat issues and cramping, you better believe I was going to finish. I saved enough energy to run through the tunnel and onto the Notre Dame field only to find out that I had missed the timing mat by 5 mins, thus I had no official time. BUT I FINISHED! I was so so bummed as I am trying to join the 50 state club and need official results. i don't understand why the director couldn't allow the people like me who had powered through and were almost there go over the mat. The last official time is at 5:08 and I came in around 5:15. BUMMER!
By: Jess B.
Posted: June 05, 2011
great!
I thought this marathon was very well organized for the size of it. There was plenty of volunteers handing out water and plenty of water stops and gu stops. There was plenty of food after the marathon although I felt as I had to compete with walkers and 5k to get food. The day was very hot and the volunteers were great. This is an in and out course and the scenery along the St. Joseph river is nice. The marathon was stopped early ( around 5 hours 12 min) due to hot weather for the safety of the runners. Overall, I thought it was a nice marathon and great choice for those looking to increase their marathon repertoire.
By: David Weiss
Posted: February 20, 2011
An enjoyable event
Overall, I enjoyed the race quite a bit.
Good:
1. I got into town Fri. evening after packet pickup had actually ended and the volunteers were great and allowed me still to get my stuff, and gave me a great recommendation of a place to get a night-before-race pasta dinner
2. Had never been to South Bend, a beautiful town, and i enjoyed the course, and didn't have the difficulties with course markings some others experienced
3. Friendly volunteers on the course, and plentiful hydration
4. Finishing on the football field at Notre Dame, a must for any football fan - I practically thought i was hearing a "Rudy, Rudy, Rudy" chant as I was crossing the finish line
5. Enjoyed going to the College Football Hall of Fame in the afternoon after the race, although I think giving racers a day-of-race discount or free admission (with a finishing medal or their race number or something) would be an awesome touch
6. easy parking for the start of the race
Bad:
1. Standing in POURING rain with nothing - no tent or shelter of any kind - for at least 20+ minutes on shot legs, waiting in line for one of the buses back to the start line was lousy, although the buses that finally arrived were extremely nice
2. getting herded quickly out of the stadium because of rain and possible lightning was unfortunate; i know they had to, but I really wanted to hang for awhile and soak in the experience more
Out of 14 marathons, my worst marathon time, but an enjoyable, small-town race that'd I'd recommend.
By: Joe J.
Posted: June 15, 2010
Wouldn't miss Sunburst for anything!
First, let me say I'm just a "pound-the-pavement" runner - not elite by any means. I've only done a handful of marathons, but I try not to miss this one! I've heard comments about the course - I absolutely love it!! Along the river, finishing in ND Stadium... the whole thing to me is fantastic. I didn't find the markings confusing, but I paid attention, looked at the map ahead of time, etc. As a general comment, I thought the volunteers were amazing - attentive, caring, encouraging. Anyway, I'll be back as the total experience is always one I enjoy.
By: Lisa L.
Posted: June 10, 2010
This Race Absolutely Sucks
I tried to give the course rating a "0" above, but it would not let me.
I ran the Sunburst for the first time and have to say that it is the most confusing course I have ever tried to navigate. I say "try" because I, along with about 4 others, got off-course at mile 12 during a very confusing intersection with a 5K race. Yes, I said "intersection with a 5K race." For a race with that many distances going on at the same time, the course needs to be very clearly marked, which this was not. The mile markers were not accurate. There were no clocks from which to pace yourself after the first 5 miles . I actually had to ask directions from another volunteer between mile 16 and 17; otherwise, I would have veered over a bridge and would have been off course again.
My concerns to the race director were flippantly responded to after 5 days. I cannot suggest this course to fellow marathoners and would actually advise against it.
By: S. D.
Posted: June 10, 2010
Sure Was Humid
This was my fifth Sunburst and I enjoyed it. Packet pickup is simple. Saturday parking and start-area logistics went very smoothly. The course has many different settings and a lot of interaction with other runners (which I liked); and finishing inside ND is great. Two areas for improvement are: 1.) Please have the mileage signs double- or triple-checked. The mile 18 sign was WAY off and mile 21 was a fair bit off. 2.) Food. I finished a bit after 4 hours and there was a very long line. By the time it cleared to a reasonable level there were bagels, apples, and popsicles. Ugh. Based on the race's website FAQ, Will there be food? "You bet! ... does a fabulous job - the best you'll find at any race." Did I miss something? Thanks to everyone - see you next year.
By: Ginger E.
Posted: June 08, 2010
Very poorly marked course... and poorly organized
I read the comments from the previous years, so I knew I would have to watch for the course; I was watching, and I still had to ask for directions. The course was confusing - "wonky," as others say - and in some places you turned at the barricades and others you ran through the barricades. And the mess with the 10K and the half marathons... an unnecessary disaster. Definitely needs a lot of work on the course layout and with the turns and course directions; most of the volunteers holding the signs were texting or talking, and there weren't any directional signs or instructions for the big turn-off for the marathoners. (I talked to 6 people and they all had to ask or missed the turn.) They have had this race for over 20 years, so you would think they would get it together by now. The instructions on the website keep changing (shuttle buses exit Gate D, now Gate B; you need a token, don't need a token... now you need a token to ride the bus back; etc.). They did have a lot of water stations, but the water cups were small, so if you didn't take 2 cups, you only got a couple of ounces of water. But the GU and bananas were great. And the course was great. Weather, of course, was hot and humid; but it's June, so that is to be expected.
By: Bill B.
Posted: June 08, 2010
Very Interesting Course
I loved this scenic, quirky course. There were plenty of opportunites to see other runners coming and going, which I like. The out-and-back along the river was one of my favorite sections in all of my marathons, and the hill at mile 24 was a real challenge. Crowd support was a bit sparse until Notre Dame's campus, but the finish was loud and stirring. Packet pick-up was easy and the shirt and medal were top-notch. My only complaint was the walk to the shuttles after the race, but maybe that was helpful in my quick recovery. Highly recommended.
By: Elaine B.
Posted: June 07, 2010
It's hot this month, but on a beautiful course
You cannot help the weather, which this year was very hot and humid during the race and then drenching rain at the end... but the course was beautiful. I did packet pickup on race day, and it was easy and well organized. Parking was ample, easy and close; and there were flush toilets as well as porta-potties at the start. Safety was perfect on the course and there were lots of water stations, GU and bananas to keep everyone going. I am trying hard to think of a negative comment, but I can't think of anything. I finished late, so not all of the food was there at the end, but I got sandwiches, bananas, bagels, and popsicles. Wet towels at the finish were really great. Race volunteers were so nice and helpful. I was waiting for one of the last runners to come in and finish her 50 states. They held the finish open later for her when they knew what she was doing. That was so nice. This was my first Sunburst but not my last. Great race. Thanks.
By: nemeth s.
Posted: June 07, 2010
Weather is the only downside
I loved this race despite the 90% humidity. They had free parking downtown less than a block from the start. They started the marathon before the half so you weren't tripping over 1/2 marathoners and trying to jockey for position at the beginning of the race. The College Football Hall of Fame was open in the morning so you could use indoor (i.e. non-porta-potty) facilities. The fans and volunteers at the aid stations were great and there were plenty of them. The course is pretty flat and beautiful, as it runs along the St. Joe River most of the way. Finishing in ND's stadium was really cool!! I would love to do this race again, but probably won't because the weather in South Bend is too unpredictable for this dry-desert dweller.
By: Denise F.
Posted: June 07, 2010
Great, small, friendly marathon
I really enjoyed this marathon. I love the friendly, small-town environment. I made new friends along the way. Plenty of water stops and friendly volunteers. Nice course, although there were more out-and-backs than I like. Loved that the marathoners started way ahead of the half and 5K. Running through the tunnel and onto the Notre Dame football field was awesome. Be prepared for hot, muggy weather. It's the Midwest and it's June. Really enjoyed the race. State # 5... done!
By: Mary A.
Posted: June 06, 2010
Be alert on the course or get lost!
Overall, this is a pretty good race. The weather was extremely humid (I saw front-of-the-pack people walking), and it rained really hard at one point. The packet pick up and start were flawless, AND it started on time - a big plus for me. My biggest complaint is about the course markings. There were plenty when the course was straight, but some corners were hard to navigate. Several marathoners missed the corner when we split from the half and I personally missed a turn at 20 some miles into it. The water stations were plentiful, and the volunteers were amazing. They had whole bananas, which were a bit too much to eat, but they had them at several stops along with GU. A really nice touch. I'm a back-of-the-packer, and by the time I got to the finish area, all of the food was gone except sub sandwiches. The shirt is so-so and the medal is so-so. Overall, a really good race - they need to add some course markings at critical places and then I would highly recommend it to others.
By: Heather Kerr
Posted: June 05, 2010
Wonderful Race!
If you are looking for a friendly, small marathon, then this is the one for you. Organization is top-notch, everyone has a smile, and the course is beautiful. It's worth running 26.2 miles just to finish through the Notre Dame tunnel - unique for a marathon - and the crowd support is lovely. My family and I had a great time! RUN THIS RACE.
By: Jack D.
Posted: July 21, 2009
Great race. Challenging!
I really liked this race. It was my tenth state (going for all 50!). There was a lot of exposure to the sun as we went out toward the turn around, across the river. It wasn't too hot really, but wear a hat for sure. There was plenty of water and volunteers. I didn't really like finishing with the half marathoners too much as it takes away from my full marathon accomplishment, but there was a good division (not in each others way) between the full and half racers thanks to the race organizers. Good challenging race!
By: Jared E.
Posted: June 22, 2009
Nice Flat; Well Organized; Few Improvements Needed
First off, I will say that this marathon does the important things right. Everything was very organized and easy to follow, and all aid stations were well stocked. The course was a bit wonky, but it was clear where you had to go. The finish was amazing and the reason why I ran the marathon. Nice shirt! Overall, it was great but here are a few minuses for me:
1. The one part in the course where you merged with the 5K/10K runners for a few hundred yards. That needs to be redone. I can definitely see some poor runner getting caught up in the herd and ruining their race.
2. The medals... seriously? This was just a weak attempt.
3. The finish where you had to weave in between slower runners. I've seen this handled so much better in other races.
Post-race area really needs to separate the marathoners from other racers. I found it frustrating to wait in line for water and refreshment.
By: Richard J.
Posted: June 15, 2009
Great Small Marathon
If you like small, well supported marathons, then this one's for you. I made a week-of decision to drive up from Nashville because the weather reports were very favorable. I was able to park (free) one block from the expo. I walked right up and registered with no problems whatsoever. I stayed at the Morris Inn right on Notre Dame's campus for a rate that was less than what the hotels downtown were asking. It was a 4-minute walk from the finish line, and checkout was noon - not 11 a.m. like the host hotels downtown.
The course was a little funky (with the merges and turnarounds), but it was well monitored and I had no trouble staying on track. I loved that, with the small number of marathon runners, you could make great time by hitting all of the tangents. I PR'ed by 3 minutes and BQ'ed, so it was a great race as far as I was concerned. There were more than enough water stops. As has been written previously, there's a lot of running on concrete, brick streets and bad asphalt, but this is a nitpicky thing to mention. The course had a lot of downhill grades, so I welcomed what few hills there were.
My only criticisms are minor: mile marker 23 was off, and the merging at the end with walkers meant doing some zig-zagging. I would highly recommend this race and commend the racing staff for putting on a great event. If you need a lot of crowd support, this isn't one you'll like. But if you want a great race experience from start to finish (and yes, it started right on time), Sunburst will not disappoint you.
By: Randy W.
Posted: June 14, 2009
Well organized, small race; ok food/scenery.
This was my first marathon.
I give four stars for the course. It is nice to run along the river - scenic, flat, but no off-the-charts views. They do well with what South Bend has.
Five stars for organization. This race also has relatively large 5K and 1/2 - and it's good that they include so many in the race. Lots of water/energy drink, lots of GU, some bananas, and lots of Vaseline. There was nothing special at the finish - Popsicles and fruit - but there was plenty to around. The football field finish is nice, but overrated in my opinion.
Spectators get four stars; they're actually great. But at 6 a.m., what do you expect? It's a small town and they are out there, but this is not a big city with tons of people out there.
Expect it to be warm. I went in expecting very good conditions. It started in the mid 50's, but it ended in the 70's and people suffered from the heat.
Overall, fun - but I don't see myself driving down again.
By: Rick Casey
Posted: June 12, 2009
Very enjoyable small marathon
This was my 2nd marathon (the 1st: Mardi Gras in New Orleans). Being from Louisiana, this felt fairly hilly, but it was scenic. The event was very well organized. There was no lack of fluid stations. I felt it was quite scenic running along the river - even the loops through the local neighborhoods. Crowd support was limited, but perfectly fine for me (crowds can be distracting). The only downsides for the course were two turnarounds (one in a parking lot and the other in the middle of a sidewalk!!) and having to cross a road packed with 5K runners around the 11 mile-mark. There were two out-and-back loops, but this was clearly explained on the website.
By: Jeff E.
Posted: June 12, 2009
Great, Small Marathon
Pre-Race:
Director was great. Due to snafus, I had a number of questions. She always emailed back within a day. The packet pick up went smoothly. There were more than enough porta-potties in the starting area. Due to the nice weather, I didn't need it, but there was an inside area to stretch and relax in before the race.
Course:
The early 6:00 a.m. start time is great; you finish well before any hot weather. The start was a nice change. Most marathons I have run do not have adequate space at the start of a race. Usually you are running the first few miles trying not to step on someone's shoes, or be stepped on by someone running up your back. The water/Gatorade/GU stations were well spaced and stocked. At two stations they handed out cold mini-towels; that was a nice touch. Volunteers did a great job. A large part of the course is run along the St. Joseph River, which very scenic. It is a flat course, with the exception of a hill at about mile 25 that came up at the wrong time. Other than that, there are just mild ups and downs. There were a couple of hairpin turn (really - they were to turn you around so that you could head back the way you came), and some merging with the 5K runners and walkers, which I think the organizers could improve on. There were no pace groups either, and that was kind of a bummer. Very few, if any, people along the way cheering you on. I have run seven marathons; this was probably the fewest people along the course. The number of marathoners was about 650 so parts of the course you were with only a few runners. The last mile or so was a little chaotic; there were marathoners with 5k and walkers. I was trying to finish strong, which meant zigzagging around the walkers. With that being said, the running through Notre Dame Stadium at the end was a highlight. Overall the course was better that most.
Post-Race:
This was one of the best set-ups for food and drink. The Gatorade and water stands at the finish were well stocked, and there was no line. They had stations inside and outside the stadium, with both food and drink. There were buses to shuttle you back to the start. I finished at about 9:30 a.m., and the line was not long at all. The medal was ok - nothing to write home about. The tech shirt is high quality.
I would highly recommend this marathon.
By: Trisha S.
Posted: June 11, 2009
It was like my own private race. Small but nice!
I knew going into this marathon that it would be small in comparison to Chicago, so I didn't let my pace reflect the lack of runners around me. This race was extremely well organized. A huge "thank you" to all of those who stayed until the very last runner passed their station!
By: Dina W.
Posted: June 11, 2009
Lots of concrete, no spectators
I usually run the Chicago Marathon in the fall. I probably won't run this one again. About 50% of it was on concrete. Pretty course, but hard on the joints. NO spectators. And hills throughout. The treat stations were well stocked, which was good. I liked the cold, wet towels that they gave out. But overall, I'm not doing this again.
By: Lisa E.
Posted: June 10, 2009
I ran the half-marathon
Nice, smallish race - not many spectators. I have some lingering injuries, so I thought I should just stick with the half. More aid stations were necessary, but that's not a bad thing, especially considering how hot it got. Tech shirts are nice, but huge in size for a female. Would have been nice if there were more course marshaling between the merge and the end to make sure walkers kept over to their side of the course. Most kept over, but I came across a few groups that were well over into the runners' route, which was a bit hazardous. A very enjoyable race, all in all.
By: Tammie H.
Posted: June 09, 2009
Well run, nice, small race; great support!
The course had a few spots where you could tell that they were trying to add a bit here and there, but most were nice. The river area was pretty. Organization was great and there were volunteers and medical support at every turn. Water, water everywhere. Not a lot of spectators, but all were enthusiastic and encouraging.
By: Sarah K.
Posted: June 09, 2009
Great experience!
I ran the half-marathon this past weekend. I had to overcome many personal adversities, but still placed 6th, and had a great time! :)
I loved going through the neighborhoods and having spectators outside offering Vaseline, water, and sprinklers! There were LOTS of volunteers and water stations as well.
The course was a bit confusing at the end because there were the marathon, half-marathon, 10K, and 5K finishing all at once, but it was great to be surrounded by lots of encouragement. The finish was a lot of fun!
The after party was great too; lots of refreshments and food (not heavy food either that would make me barf to look at at that point)! I would say that this event was a great experience... and I can't wait to come back next year!
By: Norm C.
Posted: June 09, 2009
Excellent, Small Marathon
This is my first Sunburst and it delivered. The small size was a big plus for me. However, the course support and organization were among the best that I've experienced. Lots of aid stations and volunteers, and everything moved like a well-oiled machine. The course was absolutely scenic; running along the St. Joe River and finishing in ND Stadium was a real treat. I'll be back to run this marathon. Well done.
By: Elaine H.
Posted: June 09, 2009
I like running with more runners
I meet great people at this race. Hopefully I will be running with them at other events. I ran the half this year here.
By: Stefan Faehnrich
Posted: June 08, 2009
not my personal favorite
I ran this one as my fourth marathon, and the course was quite flat and somewhat scenic too. Running alongside of the river was nice, and the starting time of 6 a.m. was great for running in a decent temperature - even in June. Finishing in the stadium was definitely a highlight.
The organization of the race was quite good. Packet pick-up was easy and quick, and there was a station every 1.5 miles (PowerAde and water, and some had GU too). At the finish, there was only one stand of water and one stand of food; and you had to line up for that. But they gave you ice-cold towels, which was definitely a plus too.
With all that being that, I have to explain why I gave it only 3 stars:
The course itself was, for most parts, an in-and -out course, meaning that you often faced oncoming runners. I personally don't like that at all. Especially around mile 16, you ran alongside the river already seeing the runners on the other side, where finally 2 miles later the turn was to run it all back. Nothing is more frustrating than seeing that you have to run all of that, knowing that you have to run it all back again.
Further, around mile 11, the marathon runners actually had to cross the course of the 10K runners (could have been the 5K too - I'm not sure), and at the time that I got there, it was totally crowded and people were running into each other. That was simply awkward. Some of the marathon runners almost took the wrong turn - joining the 10K runners. At some points, there were 180-degree turns too, which are not nice to run at all.
I finished after 3:37, together with a lot of the 5K walkers and slow, half-marathon runners, which was somewhat bothersome too, as I had to zig-zag between them.
By: John S.
Posted: June 08, 2009
Nice, small race; well organized
This was a nice, small race. Organization was great, and the medal and t-shirt were good. There were not a lot of spectators, and the course does a lot of winding around the river. But the finish is fun!
By: Chris P.
Posted: June 08, 2009
This Course Is A Nightmare
This is the second time I have done the Sunburst Marathon and both times I have PR'd. However, the course is poorly managed and I would not recommend it. Since there are only 600 marathon runners (out of 8,000 doing all of the races - half, 5K, 10K, etc.), there are times where you feel like you are a second-class citizen. I had to ask a volunteer at least 5 times which way to turn, mostly in the second half of the race. And worse yet, during Mile 6 I missed a turn and ended up one mile ahead of where I was supposed to be. When I realized it, I then turned around and got back in with the group of runners that I remember being ahead of me before missing the turn. The top runners had police escorts, but the second group had no help and since there were so few runners on the course and so many turns, it was up to us to figure out which way to go several times. The course is a nightmare. I have been playing out this race in my head ever since I finished and, each time it gets worse. Take a look at the course map and you will see all of the turns. I was extremely pleased with my time, but I can't recommend this race unless they straighten out the course.
By: Gary K.
Posted: June 08, 2009
Given the limitations, it's not a bad race
This race is one of many (5K run and walk, 10K, half-marathon). Plus it starts and finishes in different places. So laying out a course must be a big challenge. This marathon has a lot of cornering and loop-di-dos, but overall it runs you through some nice areas. Roads are typical of a northern city - either really bad asphalt, really hard bricks, or concrete as running surfaces.
The finish into the stadium is one of the best finish areas in ~30 marathons.
There is probably a reason that it runs in early June. Heat is a serious risk, but they have prepared well, with water stops every mile, frequent Vaseline, and iced towels (a real treat).
My only organizational criticism is that the multiple finishers, though well divided up to the finish line, jam together after the finish with long lines to get food. A separate line for famished marathoners would have been appropriate. The 5K walkers didn't need the armloads of food they were grabbing.
By: Gary T.
Posted: June 08, 2009
Still Awesome
Only two comments. 1.) Technical T-Shirts don't help you advertise if we don't wear them casually. Please bring back the cotton. 2.) Could you have put the shuttle buses any farther away? All in all, a great race. Thanks!
By: Joe E.
Posted: June 07, 2009
Solid, small marathon
This is the fifth year in a row that I've participated in this event, but I've done the half-marathon until 2009, when I did the marathon.
I like this race, a lot. The RD clearly listened to concerns from the previous years. Mile markings were both accurate and easily identifiable. The many, many volunteers were very helpful, even at the end of a long morning for them, as I was at the back of the pack.
There's no way to over-emphasize how cool it is to finish at the 50 yard-line at ND stadium. It is a marvelous experience. Towels and Popsicles are perfect at the end of a warm, humid morning.
With 600-ish runners, count on spending a lot of time by yourself on the course... which I like, and so it worked.
By: Michael G.
Posted: June 06, 2009
Can't be positive about this course
I ran in the marathon today and fell on some plastic netting put at the side of the course to keep runners off of the grass. The netting was white, so of course I couldn't see it. I fell flat on my face and broke my tooth, etc. The care along the route was poor; they didn't have antiseptic. The care in the medical tent was quite good.
By: Nicole T.
Posted: May 01, 2009
Small but great!
This would be a great first-time marathon. It isn't overwhelming with people, but it has a great course and is very organized. There was GU, water, Gatorade, and Vaseline every few mile throughout the course (every 3-4 miles). I brought my own, but it was not necessary. The finish is awesome!!! The runners and race volunteers are mostly from the Midwest. They are all very nice and friendly and supportive. I found the course to be very pretty.
By: Corey B.
Posted: October 13, 2008
Hot and humid - anticlimactic ending
I cannot blame the heat and humidity on the race organizers, but if you are used to cool runs, the 2008 was not the race for you. The course itself was very nice, but had idiosyncrasies. At one point, the course lead the runners 200 meters into a parking lot, presumably to make up some distance. The crowds were sparse, but I prefer less crowds. My biggest complaint was the ending at Notre Dame Stadium. I entered the stadium at the same time as all of the 5K and half-marathon runners and walkers. The finishing gate was crowded. I don't want to be elitist, but a full marathoner should not have to compete with a 5K walker for refreshments. Another complaint is with the choice of host hotel. The host hotel refused to extend check-out until later. As a result, I had to check out of my hotel at 5:30 in the morning, and I had no place to shower and rest after the race.
By: Nicole P.
Posted: July 07, 2008
Very pretty course - pleasantly suprised
This was my first full marathon, but of all of the races (1/2 marathon, 10K) that I have run, this was the prettiest course. I don't understand how other runners were confused on this course because I felt it was clearly marked. I actually liked running all around the neighborhoods because it kept me focused on where the next turn was rather than than how many miles I had left. The aid stations were fully stocked with a variety of flavors of GU, and there were people with Vaseline as well. The people of South Bend were very nice and supportive, but the fans were few and far between. This was good for my family because they were able easily to find me TWELVE TIMES during the race. I didn't think the weather was bad at all. The Marriott is at the start line and they didn't mind at all if we checked out late after the race. I would definitely pay the extra money to stay there again for the convenience. The ending was awesome and I don't even like Notre Dame. I would do this again. It seemed very low maintenance - no lines for anything.
By: Derek Opperman
Posted: June 10, 2008
Sunburst... getting better each year.
This was the 5th time I have done the Sunburst Marathon. Each year, it seems to get a bit better. The course was solid this year, better with the addition of the River Walk in Mishawaka and the new pathway along the river in South Bend. Finishing at Notre Dame Stadium is always fun. This year, I ran with my wife (her first marathon) and we were towards the rear of the race. Even though we were not among the first through the aid stations, they were well stocked with water and Gatorade, gels, bananas, etc. Medical staff on the course (on bikes and at aid stations) were very, very helpful. Packet pick up is a breeze, but I would like to see some more out of the expo. Also, they used to offer different shirt colors for marathon runners, but again this year, we had the same as everyone else. A technical shirt option would be fantastic. Finisher medals are small, but nice. Fans along the course are few and far between, but those who are out are very supportive. Overall, I would recommend this race if you like smaller races, as it can get spread out a bit. There are a lot of sections where you face oncoming runners, so that helps. Be prepared, though; it can get very hot and humid in South Bend, Indiana at this time of year. Hope to see you out there on the start line in 2009!
By: Jake Z.
Posted: June 09, 2008
Mixed feelings about Sunburst
As I read through the various reviews of the 2008 Sunburst, I realize why there are some very good and bad reviews for this race. I was expecting the worst based on prior years' write-ups, but I was pleasantly surprised at the course and the finish line and water stop organization. The little extras (like the cold towels and the fruit cups) were GREAT! But the confusing out-and-back turnarounds shows room for improvement.
Overall this is a great race and sounds like it's getting better each year. My recommendation would be to add more of Notre Dame's campus to the course. The finish line is the best and is not to be missed.
By: Phil M.
Posted: June 06, 2008
One of the best!
This was my third Sunburst since 2001 and I have to say that it was solid then (2002) and continues to improve each time that I run it. I LIKE the fact that there are other running events going on as we travel the course. This shows the commitment of the sponsor to get the community involved in healthy activity and also provides a cheering crowd for us marathoners. The weather was warm, but the volunteers and staff were ready to take care of us. I think the little tweaks in the course and the addition of the new Riverwalk section show the commitment of the Director to the marathon event, even though it probably represents the smallest part of the all the races. I appreciate the quality of this event and will be back!
By: Carl Johnson
Posted: June 06, 2008
Scenic Sections, but Course Poorly Marked
The course had its moments - the sections along the river were scenic, shaded and enjoyable. There were also a couple of sections in well-heeled neighborhoods that were pretty. And entering Notre Dame stadium through the tunnel with the fight song blaring was pretty cool.
However, overall I don't give it good marks. There were too many loops back on itself and the mile markings were atrocious. I only ran the half - but since there were twice as many runners in that race as for the full, you would assume there would be mile markings for it; there weren't - and initially it was very confusing since the marathon DID have markings, but they were not aligned with those for the half. Similarly, there were only a couple of electronic signs providing the race time along the entire course, making pacing a difficult task.
Was also not impressed by the pre-race expo, the post-race food or the finisher's medal; all left something to be desired. Fan support along the course was pretty much invisible and there were certainly no indications before the race that South Bend was welcoming runners with open arms. I do give the race volunteers kudos - most hydration stations were well-manned and helpful (although one of the first ones was short staffed and there wasn't water or Gatorade available and ready to everyone as they ran by). Hey - at least the rain stopped and the weather, though a bit humid, was not bad.
By: Matt E.
Posted: June 05, 2008
Much to improve on for 2009
This really is not a bad race, nor is it a great race. I have run this event for 12 years, and this was by far the worst experience I have had. First off, no goody bag other than your race bib and some fliers for other races. Second, the marathoners get no special recognition whatsoever. At least give them a tech shirt. The course itself during the first 10 miles had inaccurate mile markers and some were missing. I hope some kids were moving the markers the night before because any other reason is inexcusable. Lastly, be ready for some rude Notre Dame ushers once you finish. These old men need to lighten up and realize some of us just ran 26 miles. I really felt like punching one, if I had had any energy left. But it is a good race; just some minor problems that can be easily fixed. I do recommend it for all, but be prepared for heat.
By: Daisy Aburto Martinez
Posted: June 05, 2008
Super organized and caring staff!
I was worried about running this marathon since the comments were negative about the organization and the high temps. I am very glad I did run it as my Indiana marathon to join the 50-state marathon club. Everyone from the start to the finish was very nice, supportive and ready to assist you in anyway. All 24 water stops were stocked with water, Gatorade, gel packs, etc. Medics on bikes keep a caring eye on us. It was very hot and humid from the start, but that was out of their control. The course was nice, threw the parks and around the River walk. The finish at Notre Dame football stadium was SPECTACULAR! I was one of the last finishers and I still had a great welcome by the spectators, volunteers, and cameraman. They announced my name as I finished and greeted me with my medal, a wet cold towel and plenty of food and refreshments. My favorite was the cups of watermelon, grapes and cantaloupe. The only thing to complain about was the high temperature and humidity. Thank you to everyone who helped me finish this extremely HOT and HUMID marathon; I couldn't have done it without your organized staff. Very challenging but rewarding!
By: Heidi W.
Posted: June 04, 2008
Very nice small marathon
My comments will be a bit different because I was the last runner through the stadium. I'm normally a slow runner but the weather really got to me so that's why I wasn't running my best. But... the course was nice and flat. The water stops were plentiful and manned by wonderful, nice, smiling people willing to stand in the same heat and humidity as the runners for hours. The med escorts were wonderful gentlemen - checking up on me - and the police were great too. When the 10K, half, and marathon people merged, that was a bit crowded, but the spray paint sunbursts helped lead the way. No complaints here, and I recommend it highly. Thanks for a great race, Sunburst.
By: Mark L.
Posted: June 04, 2008
Small marathon - but great support
This was my third marathon in six months, and turned out to be my best. The aid stations were well stocked with beverages and smiles. Since I trained in Tampa, the warm weather in South Bend was a non issue. I did not have any problems on the course, and in general thought it was pretty nice, with the exception of the lack of time clocks. The crossing of the one intersection through other runners was not that bad, we just made it into a fartlek.
The short and sweet packet pick-up gave me more time to rest and relax. The marathon t-shirt could have been replaced with a technical race shirt. The cold towels at the finish were so refreshing! Smoothies would have worked well here also.
Overall the organization was good, despite some of the negative comments previously posted. The only other suggestion would be to stage these races earlier in May. This would ensure a better opportunity for cooler temps.
By: Dan Bloedorn
Posted: June 04, 2008
Outstanding!
I ran the half marathon and absolutely loved it. The course was beautiful through the South Bend neighborhoods and the finish in Notre Dame Stadium is really unlike anything else.
One great thing about this race was that it was so easy - not running it, but everything around the event: the packet pickup, parking, the festive start line, the finish, the food and drinks and the shuttle buses back to the start.
The organizers of this event know exactly what they are doing, as evidenced by the fact that this was the 25th anniversary.
As a Chicago resident (and runner), I would highly encourage folks to participate in this event - there is a 5K, 10K, half and full marathon, so something for everyone.
Cannot say enough about this race - will definitely be back next year.
By: Jeff D.
Posted: June 03, 2008
Great Spring Marathon. Beautiful Course.
I've run different marathons, from San Francisco to Boston, and there isn't one of them that I appreciated more than the Sunburst Marathon in South Bend, IN. The 6 a.m. gun time was great. The first time I felt the sun on me was at mile 14. From someone who ran Chicago in '07, I loved it! The course is absolutely beautiful. From the tree-covered streets to the beautiful parks, it was mesmerizing. There were 24 - yes, 24 - water stations along the course. That was great. The volunteer service was the best I have ever had. People were so friendly and nice. They must have handed out GU four to six times throughout the course. At mile 25, you mix in with the half-marathoners who started an 1.5 hours later. That gave me a boost passing many of them. Running into the stadium was... sorry, no words here to describe the feeling. It was a dream come true, running through that tunnel with the fight song playing. I tip my hat to a marathon I plan on putting in my curriculum for years to come. The fan base is very low, which meant my family had no trouble finding me multiple times along the course. First time I ever got Dri-Fit socks with the logo on it too.
By: Jeff H.
Posted: June 03, 2008
Great organization, nice secret.
Comments from 2007 had me worried about this marathon. There were not that many good comments at all, but I was willing to take a chance since there aren't a lot of marathons this time of year. I'm glad I did. I don't know if they changed a bunch from 2007, but there is nothing that takes away from the race. Water stations and GU were plentiful. If I had to complain about something, it would be the cotton t-shirt. (For someone only to complain about a t-shirt tells me that it's a great marathon.)
By: s. d.
Posted: June 03, 2008
Enjoyable small marathon
This was a very nice smaller marathon. Sure, the humidity was a bit high, and the temps were getting up there - so slow down a bit and stay well hydrated. No big deal.
Some of my positives:
- Registration and packet pickup were a breeze.
- Starting area parking and the return shuttle were very smooth.
- There were plenty of water stations and an endless supply of GU.
- As usual, the volunteers and staff were very courteous and helpful.
- No long lines for the porta-potties before or during the run.
- The College Football HoF start and ND Stadium finish.
- The new path between miles 7 and 9.
- The iced towels at the finish. Very refreshing, but please, no double dipping.
- The Sunburst socks(!).
Just a couple of not-so-positives:
- Mile measurements/markings. Specifically around mile 7 this year. Please triple-check sign placements.
- The endpoint turnarounds (mile 6+ and 17+) seemed a bit "flexible." Two volunteers standing there who you run to then turn around, I guess? Maybe there was an oops there leading to what many clocked as a "short" mile 7?
Overall, I really enjoyed the event, and I PR'ed. Kudos to the RD, staff, and volunteers. Something like this isn't easy to pull off and you all seemed to do a pretty good job. See you next year.
By: kevin m.
Posted: June 02, 2008
What a great finish!
Having read the comments from previous years, I was a tad concerned... however, I signed up anyway and am very pleased. This is the smallest event that I have done and I think I am now a fan of the smaller venues. The course was nice, the neighborhoods were cool, and the interaction with the residents gave it a homey feeling. The volunteers were great, and traffic control was excellent. I LOVED the finish with hearing the ND fight song (I hate ND football, by the way), seeing the fans in the stadium, and finishing on the 50 yard-line made it all worth it. The ice towels came in handy, given the temperatures over 70; and AS slow as I am (under 5), I did not have to contend with runners from other races, so it was all good for me!
By: Tracey M.
Posted: June 02, 2008
This was pathetic.
I would never run this marathon again nor recommend it to other runners. Due to merging courses with the 10K race and inadequate course marking between miles 10 and 11, I (along with at least 6 other runners), ended up running one of the neighborhood block loops twice, which added another mile to my "marathon." Being back at the end of the pack, I found it inexcusable that during official race time limits, I had cars driving up from behind and passing me. That's just not safe. If you are going to call a 6 and a 1/2-hour time limit, then keep the traffic off the course or don't host a full marathon! At one point a volunteer asked my partner to finish with his cup so that he could put it in the trash and not have to pick it up. I could go on, but it's not worth my time.
By: Paul J.
Posted: June 02, 2008
Better than it used to be!
I said I'd be back to report, and here I am. I thoroughly enjoyed the Sunburst Marathon this time. Maybe because I ran a solid race, maybe because it's nice to run a small marathon after running Chicago 9 years in a row. I'll agree with everything people have written the last couple days, except I do enjoy the 6 a.m. EST start (and I do live in the CST time zone). Organizers have to start it that early in case it's an excessively hot day. They couldn't call it the Sunburst if it was 6 weeks earlier. The intersecting of the races was a bit confusing, but there were course monitors in there to direct traffic and it wasn't that confusing. I actually didn't mind all the people at the end, because I was passing a bunch of them. I'd definitely recommend this to someone in the general South Bend area as a low-cost spring marathon to inspire training during the early part of the year.
By: dawn s.
Posted: June 02, 2008
good course, well-supported, invigorating finish
The temperature was warm and humid, but with all the water and Gatorade stops, there was never any need to worry. All stations well-supported, and volunteers get 5 stars and reminded everyone to drink. GU was available throughout the entire race. Finishing through the Notre Dame tunnel with the Irish fight song playing was icing on the cake! Only negative was the Holiday Inn-downtown. If you are fast, you will make checkout, but any normal runner should stay somewhere else. Even though they are listed on the race site, they would only extend checkout if you paid for it (check out at 11 a.m.). They said it was due to the contract signed with Sunburst. If it is, they need to fix this or list it on the race site. It's convenient, but a shower after a marathon is always refreshing. Too bad that wasn't thought of for the runners. Just stay at the Marriott or one of the many other friendlier hotels.
By: bruce r.
Posted: June 02, 2008
All positive
There's no reason for any negativity surrounding this event. Scenic river course, neighborhoods, extremely well-marked course, plenty of water stations and volunteers, and a great stadium finish. Hats off to organizers.
By: Michael M.
Posted: June 02, 2008
Great run through SBN
Yes, I had the same thing between mile 6 and 7. Not sure if the course was mis-marked, but I was right on with the Garmin through 6. Then something happened at 7 and it stayed that way until the end.
Organization was great - that is what makes a race!!
Course was scenic - not too hilly, but rather, just right. Awesome finish into ND Stadium - even if you are not a ND fan, it's still cool to run onto the field.
But one thing for the RD: it was a pain for marathoners to weave/dodge other racers from the other races when the courses merged. Having a 90-degree merge of courses is not a good idea, and then have to weave through was pretty bad.
By: Steve L.
Posted: June 01, 2008
Worst marathon, or any race, I have ever run.
As a veteran of 17 marathons and hundreds of other races, I have lots of experience to rely on, and the 2008 Sunburst was the most poorly organized, and worst overall, race I have ever seen. The less significant, but still meaningful, issues include such things as (1) not having an organized pasta-thon the night before the race (or even having local restaurants offer a pasta buffet, etc.), (2) providing marathoners the same basic cotton t-shirt also given to those running much shorter races at this event, (3) giving out extremely small cups of warm water and Gatorade on a very hot day (no ice anywhere), (4) having a volunteer harass me for keeping a cup past the immediate vicinity of the water stop, and (5) having an expo that was really not much more than a packet pick-up stand.
These are just a few examples of the problems I encountered that rank below the huge problem that follows. The marathon race course itself on race day was not properly administered. There were dozens and dozens of places on the marathon course where it was not clear where we were to go. Sometimes they used cones and/or volunteers to mark the turns, but in a majority of cases, all we had to rely on were, at best, some painted marks on the pavement. It was so bad that around mile 10-11, at least a handful of us ended up running an extra mile before a volunteer spotted us and got us going the right way again. Particularly on a day that started at 70 degrees and ended the race well into the 80's, having to run an extra mile was inexcusable. In addition, many of the mile markers themselves were improperly measured. I wear a Garmin 305, which, while not 100% accurate, confirmed the problems I noted with the course.
I know the vast majority of race directors do a great job and don't get the true thanks they deserve. This is the one and only time in my 30+ years of running that I thought a race was badly mismanaged. As a result, I have to strongly recommend to other runners out there, particularly those in the two 50 State clubs who have to pick from what little is available in Indiana, to avoid this marathon even so. I have not run the Indy Marathon, but I have to hope it is much better organized than Sunburst.
By: Bruce E.
Posted: June 01, 2008
Well supported, good course, but hot and lonely
I just ran my first Sunburst yesterday (May 31, 2008) and greatly enjoyed it. The course runs mostly through scenic residential areas and parks: unlike most marathons it does NOT go through the warehouse district or past the city's water treatment plant. Much of the course is out-and-back, which I like because you get to see all the other runners several times. There is the "run around the cones" (but, to correct other comments, it is not in a parking lot, but more like a private street). The worst part of the course is a short section where runners and cars are mixed together on a 4-lane street - one lane should be coned off for the race. My favorite part of the course is from mile 14 to mile 23, which follows the river and crosses the river (twice!) on a wooden foot bridge. Others like the finish at the 50-yard line, and that is nice, too.
Aid stations were EXCEPTIONAL - 6 stars. They had 24 aid stations in 26 miles, all had water and Gatorade, nearly half had GU, and a few had bananas. Food at the finish was great - I really liked the Popsicles and fresh fruit.
The biggest drawback to Sunburst is the likelihood of it being warm and humid - if you do not do well in those conditions, consider yourself warned.
It is a small marathon (under 500 in 2008), so the expo is tiny, and there are few spectators - but packet pickup is a breeze and there were no lines at the porta-potties!
Overall, a good race. Well done, South Bend!
By: Geoffrey H.
Posted: June 01, 2008
Comments from 2008 Runner
Worth the money, but there's the good/not so good.
Good: Low cost, hassle-free, no worries about "getting in" before registration closes, fairly pretty course. Great volunteers, good expo, nice racing socks.
Not so good: 6 a.m. Eastern start (that meant rising at 3 a.m. in the Cenral zone where I live to run a marathon). Humidity (more than hot temps). This likely called for a 6 a.m. start, though. If possible, I would prefer the date to be 6 weeks earlier and an 8 am start.
Course: With numerous races going on at different times, marathoners at one point had to literally INTERSECT with runners from another race. Very dangerous, in my opinion.
By: John Reed
Posted: June 01, 2008
Nice, Small, Scenic, River Marathon!
The course was nice and varied, with much of it on scenic river trails. Just enough hills so as to make it challenging. Many well stocked water/Gatorade stops with plenty of GU packets. Great finish at ND stadium, with plenty of food and refreshments.
By: Todd O.
Posted: June 01, 2008
7-mile marker?
My split from mile 6 to mile 7 was under 5 minutes - and, no, I'm not that fast. No mile splits after that were excessively slow. Was the course short, mis-marked, or what? Anyone know?
By: Michael C.
Posted: May 31, 2008
good race; I recommend it
The course was scenic, along the river. The finish line is on the 50 yard-line of the Notre Dame football stadium (SPECTACULAR). They handed out wash cloths soaked in ice water at the finish line, which was refreshing. I think it is well organized and will run it again. The only negative is that they need more clocks at the mile markers.
By: Paul J.
Posted: May 27, 2008
Hoping for improvement
It has been 8 years since I ran this marathon, but due to its proximity to my home and the time of year, I'm finally going to try it again. I'm most concerned about a couple things - making sure the course is marked clearly, running into the 5K walkers at the end of the race, and then having to battle walkers and runners from shorter races for refreshments afterwards. Marathoners should be treated better and not have to fight for position at miles 25 and 26 with a bunch of people who are out for a Saturday-morning stroll in their brand new T-shirt. I have a good feeling that organizers have corrected this, but I will report back after the race.
By: Don W.
Posted: May 09, 2008
What can you do about weather?
As I prepare for Sunburst '08, I thought I would read comments from '07 event (also ran). In my opinion, a few of the remarks posted are unwarranted.
Yeah, the water was warm, but it was a really, really hot and humid day. The water stops were well prepared for the heat (unlike Chicago '07) and well staffed. Friendly volunteers!
The course changes slightly every year. Now, '07 was not my favorite, but since I live right over the state border and get the South Bend paper, I knew in advance that there was a lot of street work near Notre Dame and at other points on or in the vicinity of the marathon course.
As for the t-shirts, really, I have more tees than I know what to do with! Who cares whether it says "Marathon Finisher" or not when I'm mowing the grass?
This upcoming edition, 2008, will be my 4th time running the full Sunburst Marathon (did the half and 10K many times) and I'm looking forward to it. It's a quiet course (not for everyone) but a great little race.
By: Chris S.
Posted: January 16, 2008
Poor organization; not welcoming to marathoners
Sunburst has dropped its standards. We had to fight through crossing paths of walkers and cars throughout the race. A pathetic effort to call this a marathon! If they don't really want the real runners to come, they are going about it the right way!
By: Drea D.
Posted: January 15, 2008
Great Finish
I actually only ran the half marathon. Being a somewhat new runner, I find this race to be OK. I was a little disappointed about running around cones and sad that we didn't run through the beautiful campus of Notre Dame. However, the course is relatively flat (except for that lovely hill at mile 11). I do have to say that the finish made it all worthwhile. They pump in music from the band and you finish right there in the middle of the football field... on the 50.
By: Josh D.
Posted: January 01, 2008
Ridiculously bad course
The worst course I've ever run on... at any competitive level, including my high school and college days. Running around orange cones to burn up distance???? Honestly... that's ridiculous. This is a marathon, not a silly training exercise. In a few instances there were even cars ON the course. Nothing like sucking in fumes while trying to make moves. Poorly managed and poorly conceived in every way.
Visiting a new city (and exploring Notre Dame, in this case) is always fun... but I can't, in good faith, recommend this to anyone I care about, which is most everyone I've ever met.
Avoid at all costs.
By: Matt E.
Posted: November 05, 2007
HOT
Be prepared for a hot day. I have run a race at the event every year for the past 11 years and it has been hot every time. This past year was my first marathon; be ready for little fan support, a rat maze for a course, and a memorable finish in Notre Dame stadium. You have to expect hot weather in June... just come prepared for it. All in all, though, it's a great event and well run.
By: Melanie J.
Posted: September 27, 2007
Poor
I am a pretty easy going person... not hard to please. However, the town seemed very inconvenienced by having a marathon going on. There were very few spectators. The course was not enjoyable. We ran to the end of on parking lot and ran around a construction cone, then to the end of another parking lot just to run around another cone. It was also very hot. I do not recommend this marathon to anyone. Even at the end, the marathon organizers ran out of almost everything. The 5K racers ate almost all the food.
By: Flatlander J.
Posted: July 12, 2007
Start earlier to better avoid the heat
We loved it but wish there could be a five o'clock early start, marathon at five thirty, etc. I liked having a race to run while my husband did the 26.2.
By: Scott C.
Posted: June 08, 2007
Nice Event Overall; Weather Can Make It Tough
I liked most things about this marathon. The organizers plan for, or at least alert you to, most of what to expect. Things were well explained and marked. The start parking was a breeze, but I did have about a 25-minute wait for the post-race shuttle. A friend even got an age-group award (which run 5-deep) of a free Brightroom 5x7 photo. Post-race food and drink was fine, and on a hot day I was glad there weren't heavy foods and there were popsicles and cold towels. About the last mile-and-a-half got crowded, as we joined the midpack of the half-marathoners and some of the 5K Fun Walk participants (the only race in which strollers were allowed). That mass made it slightly tougher to keep my pace and focus. "RH from Northern Kentucky" shouldn't feel so victimized, as he seemed to come across in his review. There WERE walkers and slower runners from shorter races thickening the last part of the marathon course, and that aspect of the marathon experience should be noted.
By: Douglas D.
Posted: June 07, 2007
Great experience for a first-timer
The course was laid out well, and I guess that for the most part there were other runners around me as I ran, but I never got lost along the way. It seemed as though there were volunteers holding signs whenever you needed to turn, so I'm not sure where the confusion came in for other runners that have commented on this race.
There were plenty of aid stations, although it seemed like they were spaced out a little too much in some spots.
As others have said, there weren't very many people out cheering on the runners, but those who did come out to cheer did a great job encouraging people. Also, several people had their sprinklers on, but they were mostly in the first half of the race; by about mile 20 I was dying and hoping that there would be a sprinkler to cool me down.
The post-race food was adequate, but it seemed like they ran out of some items by the time I managed to drag my butt across the finish line. I really wanted a popsicle. :) The cold towels at the finish were great, especially since the weather was so hot and humid.
This was my first marathon, and the heat and humidity really took their toll in the second half of the race, but overall I would recommend this race to anyone looking to run a smaller race.
By: Ma S.
Posted: June 05, 2007
Early start, fast course
This race is well organized; the early start (6:00 a.m.) is unique but it was helpful in 2007 given the heat and humidity. The course has several events (marathon, half marathon, 10K, 5K), which start at different times but end up having points on the course in which these events merge and then split - and signage could be better in these areas. Miles 14-24 are out and back, which some people may not enjoy. The course has good shade and many of the homes put on their sprinklers for the runners. This course is not flat like Chicago but it is still fast. The course does not have a lot of spectators. The finish in Notre Dame Stadium is terrific! Good food at the finish (popsicles, fresh fruit, etc.).
By: Randy M.
Posted: June 05, 2007
What a finish
I'm trying to do all 50 states and I know there are other Indiana marathons to run. I also hate Notre Dame Football... but boy, what a rush to enter the stadium, run down that tunnel with the Notre Dame fight song music blasting.... I felt like I could run through a brick wall to finish at that 50 yard-line. I wonder what I would have felt if I just liked ND?
Hot day... sponges, water, Gatorade, and bananas were all needed and welcome. You need to get different t-shirts for different races. My wife runs 5K and gets the same T? Doesn't seem right.
By: Randall H.
Posted: June 05, 2007
Overeall a nice surprise for a smaller event.
This is a fun experience and too well-kept a secret. The finish is inspiring, the town is quaint, and the course is a little zig-zaggy.
Now, my comment to other marathoners: All walkers are NOT just "family fun walkers." Most who walk a marathon or half marathon train longer and put in just as much work as the younger runners. Walking is an ideal way for older competitors to continue in these events. I wish this race was more "walker friendly" so others would try it. Quit belittling walkers!!! We're here, we're competitors and we love these events too!
By: Taylor P.
Posted: June 03, 2007
Overall Good, But Could Use Some Tweaks
(Because of the time of the year and location - and thus race name - there's the potential for warm conditions; one takes his/her chances with weather for this race.)
I found Sunburst to be a mix of things, from excellent to poor, but was, overall, relatively pleased with things.
Highlights: Notre Dame stadium finish; plentiful free parking near start; good information and organization; course well-marked and -marshaled; 2007 course wound through best parts of town and minimized hills to the best degree possible; cold towels, popsicles, and a reasonable variety of post-race foods; regular shuttle buses; signs alerting slower participants to yield to faster ones; upright mile marker signs and a few clocks.
Low-lights: Course has lots of weaves and turns in certain sections; transition onto South River pedestrian/bike path should have been better marshaled, esp. on return portion; concrete and brick surfaces for sections of course; having to cross through (at appx. mile 12) shorter distance participants and later having to weave/dodge through half-marathoners and fun walkers for the last 1.5 miles (immediately after completing a hill); mass finish with other race participants in stadium lessens impact for better marathon finishers (even a separate chute would help); relatedly, having to wait for food and massages because of the large numbers of shorter-distance participants getting the same perks.
Not a negative, but a heads-up: The 6 a.m. EDT start can be tough for those in more westerly time zones, but it's better for making hotel check-outs and trips home.
By: Derek Opperman
Posted: June 03, 2007
Another solid Sunburst Marathon
This year was the fourth time I have run in the Sunburst Marathon. Living around South Bend, IN, it is great to run a marathon in your hometown. The course is very solid. A mix of city running, residential areas and city parks along the St. Joe River with a few challenging hills thrown in too. The only wildcard each year is the weather. This year, it was very hot and humid and the race had to be red flagged. Even though the weather was very hot, all volunteers, organizers and aid stations were well equipped to deal with the conditions. Having so many aid stations (over 20 for the marathon) is very helpful and appreciated. The finisher medals get better every year and the only idea for improvement that I would suggest is to offer a technical shirt for the marathon runners, even if it would cost a bit extra. For the second year in a row, the organizers gave a drawstring bag to marathoners and half marathoners. I would recomend running this marathon to other runners who enjoy a smaller (under 1000 runners) marathon field. It is a great race to run and the finish on the 50 yard-line at Notre Dame Stadium is awesome! Check it out next year and see for yourself.
By: Brian H.
Posted: June 03, 2007
Awesome volunteers
The course is not quite as confusing as the map makes it out to be. It was marked and marshaled well enough that it wasn't too hard to figure out where you were going. The volunteers at the numerous water stops were great. However, I was near the front where the pack was relatively thin. I'm not sure how they handled the majority of people, especially since it was a hot day. The few spectators that you saw were supportive but there just weren't that many of them. It did make you feel kind of lonely. The shuttle buses back to the start went very smoothly. The finish line on the 50 yard-line of the football stadium was pretty cool. I have to admit it was awesome running through the tunnel hearing the ND fight song and piped in crowd noise even though I bleed maize and blue. I would recomend this one. It was fun - just be prepared for a little heat.
By: Harondo E.
Posted: June 03, 2007
Much better course!
Alright, that sure was a lot better - not as zig-zaggy in the park as I remember in 2006. And they don't call it "Sunburst" for nothing - it was hot at the end but I personally much prefer hot over cold races anyday, so I was somewhat in my element. You won't get any significant crowd support early on but South Bend more than makes up for it at the end in the stadium - the no. 1 reason why I just had to come back (yes, it's that nice!). Very festive and with a lot of high spirits. I would only add one thing but it's not critism - since it is a hot race, recruit and get more of the city folks to turn on there sprinklers much more. The few who did were a godsend - please try to get more, a lot more, to help out. It would had made the run abit more comfortable and would had added to an even more memorable event! Otherwise, I hope to see you next year, South Bend!
By: Rich H.
Posted: June 03, 2007
Simply simple.
Don't expect much and you won't be disappointed. The course seems to loop around and back on itself with hairpin turns in the middle of out-and-back parking lots. It was almost as if they put the course together with a yardstick and a length of string... trying to add up the necessary yardage to squeeze in 26.2 miles. Some of the water stops were located at the bottoms of hills and in the corners of turns, making it easy to run right up on someone if you weren't careful. The course wasn't marked very well and in one section near mile 20, three other runners and I ran the wrong way about 100 yards before some passersby redirected us. The portion of the course where the east-west marathoners intersected with the north-south half-marathoners was "interesting." In some spots, runners had to navigate carefully while running opposing directions into other runners during the many two-way portions of the course. The course was flat but without pace groups, you are left to your own devices to run an exact pace.
However, everything they promised on the course was there: water, Gatorade, GU, sponges. Spectators were nearly non-existent but most clapped or cheered nontheless. Some portions of the course were so strung out and devoid of spectators that it felt I was back home on a long training run. Of course, the volunteers deserve a thank you. The medal was average. The shirt was average and didn't articulate that you had finished the marathon, instead listing all four race distances on the front. Despite finishing in Notre Dame Stadium, the food/beverages at the end were, well... average (and warm water/Gatorade). I guess if you live on the southern end of Lake Michigan and need to run in Indiana to make your 50 states, this could be the one for you. Don't bend over backwards to get to this one until they work out the kinks in the goofy course.
By: melissa b.
Posted: June 02, 2007
Quiet, small, quaint, & hot, with a spectacular fi
If you do not like a small marathon, then this isn't for you. I like any size marathon. It was hot, with lots of sun and little to no shade. The volunteers work hard, making runners comfy; the few neighbors and spectators are funny; and the ice sponges are a blessing. The sound coming from Notre Dame when you are running in makes you feel like a famous sports star. As tired as I was, I couldn't help but grin from ear to ear. Sad... this is the first time I didn't qualify for Boston. It really was hot and humid even though it started so early!
By: Seven E.
Posted: February 05, 2007
Can't beat finishing on the 50-yard line of ND
I can't really comment about the marathon since I have only done the half in 2005 and 2006, but be prepared for very little fan support. Those that do cheer you on are very enthusatic and supportive with music, water sprinklers, water, etc... just not many of them on the streets. As for the beer comment in a earlier post, I take it you have never seen a ND tailgate weekend... the beer is readily available, just not at this event. Courses are poorly marked too. Most mile markers are painted on the street with no indication of it.
By: John R.
Posted: August 05, 2006
A fun little course; quit the whining
This was a very picturesque, small-town race that kept me interested nearly the entire way. I especially liked the first half -- very shady, scenic, on a very manageable scale, and run through pretty neighborhoods. The second half of the race was a little less so, especially the long push on sidewalks to the park, without much shade.
As for all the whining about the shirts, I actually liked the hot-orange look. Just my opinion.
This race didn't try to pretend to be what it's not. It's a fun, small race through the pretty, historic parts of a nice little town.
By: John H.
Posted: July 31, 2006
Nice small race - room for improvement though!
Pros:
*Beautiful course along the St. Joseph River.
*Water stops nearly every mile, most stocked with Gatorade Endurance and Gu.
*Plenty of enthusiastic, helpful volunteers.
*Great sites to start (College Football HoF) and finish (ND Stadium) the race.
Cons:
*Ugliest T-shirt I've received at any race: orange, simplistic design, all events listed with nothing to distinguish the marathon finishers from the Family Fun Walk participants.
*Convoluted course, using dead-end streets, parking lots, and the rat maze through the parks at the turn-around.
*Significantly innacurate mile markers on course. (Mile 17, for instance, was only 7/10s, per my Garmin.)
*No monitoring of the course, allowing rampant cheating (course cutting in the park at the turn-around).
*Minimal crowd support, though the few out there were vocal and supportive.
*Hilly and hot, not excessively so, but less than perfect if you are trying to PR.
By: Steven S.
Posted: July 06, 2006
Course was better in 2005.
Course changes this year were detrimental. I saw several leaders make a wrong turn and shorten their course. Some areas were marked poorly, esp. when running through parking lots, as mentioned previously. The course in 2005 was much less confusing, with a nice turn-around loop in Mishawaka.
The start/finish areas were great. Check-in was easy. My enthusiasm has dropped for this race due to the course. I hope it can be improved.
By: Joe E.
Posted: June 27, 2006
Nice atmosphere, awesome finish
I think many of the commentors here are just whining. This is a fun race! The course problems were caused by some construction issues beyond the control of the RD...my guess they will be fixed next year.
And how can you compare the experience at the end?? Approaching and running on to the historic Notre Dame campus? Looping along the stadium, making the turn, down the tunnel and onto the most famous college football field in the world??
The finish was well organized, IMHO. I had no problem finding plenty of water, Gatorade, fruit. The towels and popsicles were wonderful. I actually noted a lot of people throwing their towels away, so I picked a bunch up and now have a stack to use on my own!
I've run the half the last two years and will probably run the full marathon in 2007.
By: Chrissie K.
Posted: June 26, 2006
Flat course, but many ups and downs about the race
The was the smallest marathon I have ever run, but I definitely enjoyed it. Things I liked:
- more water stops than I have ever experiences
-nice, flat course. The parking lot loops werent too bad, and highlights of the course included running through parks, along hte river, and finishing in Notre Dame's Stadium.
-Buses bringing runner back to the start area were well organized and ran frequently. The only bad part was another runner got sick on the bus...
Didnt like:
- The shirts - bright orange, and kind of ugly, not something I'd really wear.
- The full marathon medal was small and plain. I had a few friends that ran the 1/2, and their medal was more colorful than mine.
- No power bar or engry food in the race bag.
By: Paul C.
Posted: June 21, 2006
Great time in the hub of the universe
I have run this race three times: in 1984, the inaugural Sunburst, and in 2005 and 2006. This year the weather was beautiful, compared to the usual heat and humidity that can afflict Indiana at this time of the year.
The course was easy to follow, fast and scenic. Sure we ran through a few parking lots, about a half mile of the entire race distance! What are people complaining about?
The expo was small, but so what? It's a small race.
The shirt was a shocking orange that really grows on you. Who cares if it isn't CoolMax. And I thought the medal was fine, not as massive as some others, like Little Rock, but a source of pride, worth displaying.
The finish inside ND is fabulous. Almost no crowd support but what do you expect for a race that starts at 6 a.m.?
Great volunteers, police presence and aid. I would love a beer at the end but I realize that isn't possible on the Notre Dame campus.
All in all a great run in a great town. My wife qualified for Boston and I recommend the race to anyone that simply enjoys running marathons, regardless of the goodies and perks that go along with the over-hyped, over-produced and over-expensive marathons that attract most of the crowds nowadays.
By: Barnes Dan
Posted: June 15, 2006
Pretty along the river, but too much concrete
Very pretty course from the start to Mishawaka. Plenty of aid stations. I had hoped to run through my old neighborhood in Mishawaka, but the course was changed to loop around several miles of concrete paths in a park along the river, which was very nasty. The finish was great, with cooling tent, free massages, and popsicles.
By: Bill M.
Posted: June 10, 2006
Surprised - Based on Previous Years' Comments
What a surprise - a wonderful small race with a super finish. Finishing around Notre Dame stadium, running through the tunnel and ending inside the stadium to a great reception. Cold towels, popsicles, and melon cups to refresh - what can be better? Appreciate the nice nylon backpack gift along with the t-shirt.
A very well organized race - well marked course, quite frequent aid stations, and watermelon at one aid station - what a treat! But, expected some refreshments at the start. Well distributed port-a-toilets through the course, but more needed at the start.
The course was good except for the too-frequent intersections. But the sentries did a very good job. Enjoyed the run through Mishawaka Park.
Thanks for the reminder on the website about the change in start times and for the change in Indiana times.
By: Kathy S.
Posted: June 09, 2006
Great race with a nice course
I thought running a marathon was about finishing, not about what you get. The shirt was fine. I don't need anymore tech shirts either, plus I only wear those when I run, so who can see that?
The course was nice - a few out-an-backs w/ parking lots, but the parks were really nice, shady with plenty of water stops. The volunteers were great, and you couldn't have asked for better weather. And the wet towel and popsicles at the finish were nice. Definitely would do it again.
By: Robert Pomykala
Posted: June 08, 2006
Strange course... nice race.
A nice race with an odd course that leads on a road to nowhere, but great water stations with Gu early in the race. Not all marathons can be compared to the "major" races. For a small marathon, I felt well supported, and got a nice medal and a nice, bright orange cotton shirt. I do not need any more technical shirts.
By: Harondo Evans
Posted: June 05, 2006
Great city and people, but needs a new course!
South Bend. Wow, nice place really, rich in history and college spirit with Notre Dame College, a very nice place indeed. BUT "ghetto" is the best description I can describe the course. With a city this big and nice, and with so much going for it, why were we running in park parking lots to kill distance???!! I thought, "Ok, I hope that's as bad as that gets" - NOT! I was horrified when several lead runners were coming straight at me and other runners because that's the way the course was laid out. Even worst still there was a point that was so confusing as to which way to go that I almost disqualified myself but was saved by pre-runners running towards me - where were the course officials?? There were way too many course intersections that should had been guarded by officials to prevent cheating and/or confusion.
I feel bad about saying all these bad things because it was still a good marathon, especially the finish in stadium. And the timing of the year makes this a good race to keep in marathon shape for, we need more like these around this time of the year in spite of the potential heat problems.
This race just needs somebody in charge who don't just draw the course out on a map but run/walk/ride it out to remove the snags this one has and to use the college and city a lot more instead of having everyone zig-zag past each other over and over again.
By: Andrew R.
Posted: June 05, 2006
I would do it again
Plenty of water/Gatorade stops and plenty of food at the end. I loved the cold towels at the finish!!! Very few spectators. Finishing in the stadium was definitely the best part. My only complaint was that they ran out of goodie bags for marathon participants. I would do this one again.
By: Lana M.
Posted: June 05, 2006
So low-key, it is bordering on comatose
The Good:
1)Most number of aid stations I've ever seen at a race, all very well stocked
2)Packet pick up was a cinch
3)Got a little nylon backpack as something extra, which was nice
4) Loved the popsicles at the end
5) For a (mostly) out-and-back course, which I usually don't like, it was nice. Flat, went through a lot of parks
6) This was the first time that I've ever gotten a massage after a race because the line wasn't unreasonably long like a lot of marathons.
The Bad:
1) Just a standard cotton t-shirt given at packet pick-up, no finishers shirt or technical shirt
2) Expect no spectators or other entertaining distractions on the course. I have never seen so few people on the race course, and that includes races that are run on railroad bed trails in the middle of nowhere. For a race run through a decent-size town on a beautiful June morning, a lot of it through residential areas and parks; I was surprised at how deserted the race course felt. There was also no live music, cheerleaders, or any other entertainment. It was the first time I've never heard "Rocky" played during a marathon. (I think it is pretty cheesy, so maybe that's a good thing...) There was only one volunteer who had music playing from his car early on in the race. After that... crickets...
4) The food (other than the popsicles) was utterly boring. You got a choice of plain bagels, melon cup, bananas or apples.
I would rate it as an utterly unspectacular race. It was absolutely gorgeous weather, so I had a good time, and it appears that the RD really took the comments to heart about the aid stations last year, so it looks like this is a race that is improving, and just have a bit farther to go.
And if you are looking for a good place to stay, the English Rose B&B was great!
By: Dirk E.
Posted: June 05, 2006
Recommended race
Organization of the race was flawless. Numerous gatorade/water station, including four or five with gu. Very friendly and helpful race staff. Small race (approx 600 marathoners) makes for easy pacing and good spacing on the course until past mile 22 or 23 when the course merges with the 5k/10k/Half. Course is not as flat as Chicago but not really hilly either and fairly scenic -- made my Boston qualifying time. Not too many spectators, but those watch cheer quite well. Recommended race.
By: Anthony S.
Posted: June 05, 2006
Horrible Course - Parking lot running?
Like every race I have run the volunteers were great. Always helpful and very encouraging. The organization for the race was good. A major problem was the course itself. At 2 points during the race we were running through parking lots, PARKING LOTS! I have to be honest I did not go to Indiana to run though parking lots. Also, the race directors moved the start from 5:30 to 6. At the time this was ot a big deal, but because of the high humidity and the heat the race should have started at 5:30 not 6.
Finally, at the finish I had to search out water instead if it being handed out at the finish line. Also, a cooling tent should have been erected with fans so the runners could cool off and get out of the burning sun.
This could be a good race but alterations need to be made. I would wait at least one year to run this to see if they work out the kinks.
By: Darren S.
Posted: June 05, 2006
I expected better...few frills...
Pros:
Course organization (water/gatoraid/gu/fruit etc) pretty good, with all the turns and switchbacks, there needed a lot of 'direction' to keep runners on course. Good volunteer support!
Good planning in starting the different race groups at different times, really eliminated alot of potential confusion!
Finish area in stadium had plenty of food and drink despite all the concurrent running events.
Cons:
For the amount of runners in all the events, sponsors and publicity, I expected a larger 'expo' not just a tent.
I was aware of the out-and-back style of the course, but the detours around cones in parking lots and that route between 15-19 (best described as running a knot) were not that enthralling.
For the size, there could have been something special for finishers. The medal was VERY disappointing (that's all you get). Lucky the weather was warm, as I wonder if there would have been any space-blankets handed out.
A starting-area map on the web site would be useful for out-of-towners looking for where to park or go downtown in relation to the start.
Overall: This race could be so much more! The runners, organization and volunteers are there, but they need to make it special to draw in more fan support or return runners. Personally, this race has provided me no allure to run it again.
By: Marc Linhardt
Posted: June 05, 2006
Tour de Parking Lots
The Good: Bananas/watermelon at some aid stations, Interesting finish location -- ND stadium 50-yard line, good traffic control
The Bad: Multiple running circles of parking lots?!?, Miles of concrete, Criss-crossing through parks -- lots of course confusion. Course would get one star if it weren't for the interesting finish.
Minimal spectators, but that does not bother me.
By: Kevin Felton
Posted: June 04, 2006
Well organized race - well worth it
The organization of the race made it a class act. The course was well marked and scenic. There were plenty of fluids along the course, too. While there were some changes in elevation, it was a welcome change. The finish line was awesome. I especially enjoyed cooling off with super cold towels and abundant popsicles. The cold fruit was also good. I appreciate the enormous effort made by those in charge and the volunteers.
By: Gary T.
Posted: June 04, 2006
Shhhhh ... GREAT race - Lets keep it small <Gri
What a wonderful time. This race was almost flawless. Clocks on the course would have been nice. The bottled water was wonderful. One minor post-race buggy item. The complete race results are not up 24 hrs later. Regardless - Well Done - to the entire staff and volunteers. This is the fourth half I have done this year and without a doubt - the best! Who says bigger is better????
By: Matt K.
Posted: January 17, 2006
Great Experience
This was a great event for my first marathon. Fairly flat and interesting course, lots of aid stations and friendly fellow runners made for a great experience.
I've been to South Bend many times and always had an unfairly negative image of the city. The scenic course has changed my mind. Other weekend highlights include a stroll around Notre Dame's beatiful campus the day before the race and the Queen Ann B&B (2 blocks from the start).
I recommend this race.
By: B. S.
Posted: June 18, 2005
Gatorade and Traffic Control? What's that?
This was my first and last Sunburst. I was prepared to run in the heat, as I had heard it was very hot at Sunburst. What I WASN'T prepared for was no Gatorade at the back of the pack, for the last 10 miles! BEGGED the volunteers and medic on his bike, to contact the aid stations ahead (whom they told us were out of Gatorade), and ask them to run to Meier's and buy some! Was actually told by a volunteer, that 'they're working on that for NEXT YEAR!' Told the medic we are BEGGING for Gatorade, and he just said 'yes', and said all he had was juice. Even when I asked why they wouldn't call ahead to the stations and go buy more Gatorade, I was NEVER given an answer! Way too hot to treat your runners this way!! And, what did my $70.00 fee pay for??? Certainly not Gatorade, nor traffic control after about 5:30 hours, even though they advertise the course being open for 6:30. No 'Fight Song' in the tunnel for the back of the pack! Fortunately there WAS a wonderful cold, iced towel.
If you plan to do Sunburst, plan to supply your own Gatorade and don't expect much if you're slow!
By: Mel H.
Posted: June 17, 2005
great little race
I really enjoyed this race, and cut 9 minutes off my PR. The course was pretty, and mostly flat, with a few hills to spice it up...no killers though. A little hot and humid, but not nearly as bad as it could've been, considering the race is in June.
So toward the end of the race, I noticed that I kept getting passed by these other women who seemed to be cruising, and I wondering what they had at mile 22 that I didn't. I was making me so mad, and I was really getting fired up and trying to pick my pace up. Then finally I looked at one of their bib numbers, and realized they were 10k/half marathoners who were finishing the race with us also, and I felt better. Also, it was nice to have the fresh leg around at the end.
One thing I didn't like was the walker who joined the course for a while in the last couple miles. There were too many of them all clumped together, and the runners were having to dodge them. Next year they should maybe make lanes or something to keep runners and walkers separate.
The free massages at the end rocked!!!
By: Bill Morton
Posted: June 16, 2005
ORGANIZERS NEED TO PLAN AHEAD
This was number 20 for me and I really enjoyed this run aside from the brief aroma you experience twice in the first out-and-back, and the fact that the 'end of the pack bunch' (like me) went without Gatorade starting at mile 16.
Once the organizers put out the yellow flags they needed to step it up a notch and make certain all of the aid stations are over-supplied. I was fortunate enough to have my cousin run with me starting at mile 20 and when we came to the 7-11 store at mile 22 he used his handy-dandy credit card to buy some Gatorade, which I was happy to share with the other tail-enders.
I will certainly consider running Sunburst again (maybe the second time around the 50 states). Although the heat and humidity were killers, no one could have planned for that. Living in the upper midwest I realize that it could have snowed just as easily. As stated by others, the finish was outstanding. And to the runner who commented about it being crowded due to all the participants from other events - what's the rush, join us in the back of the pack.
By: Debbie V.
Posted: June 08, 2005
Hot Day but a GREAT Race
This was my first Sunburst Marathon experience and my 14th marathon. I want to say 'Congrats' to all of you involved in organizing and supporting this race. The organization and course support was spectacular as was the course itself. While my overall result was not what I desired, I would come back for this race over and over! Only two suggestions: 1. The slower runners ran the last several miles without Gatorade, so maybe more is in order for 2006 and 2. For the love of god, somebody tell the race director to turn off the furnace prior to race day!!
Despite the heat and humidity, this was one of the best run races I have done. Good job and thanks to all the supporters who came out with lemonade, hoses and sprinklers... especially the girl on the ladder with the soaker at mile 24... you are an angel.
By: Michael B.
Posted: June 08, 2005
Well run race
This is the 2nd year in a row I've come to South Bend for this race. There was no stadium finish last year & I wanted to experience that. Man, was that cool or what! This is one of the best run races around. Very smooth in all respects. And Midwesterners are so polite & courteous! While this is a smallish race, which could partially explain this, there is no pushing/shoving at the start that is typical back East. The course is pretty and runs for the most part along the St. Joseph's river. There are 2 brief periods where the surface is not ideal (once the payment is uneven, another time running on a brick road), but these are minor. Beware of the hill at mile 24 - ouch! The weather this year was very hot and humid, and no one likes that. South Bend really gets into the Sunburst races (there's also a 1/2, 10K & 5K) and they are well publicized locally. Good job putting on a great race.
By: Bernard M.
Posted: June 07, 2005
Very well organized and run event
Except for the high temperature and humidity, everything else was perfect: plenty of refreshment, Gatorade and water, bananas, gels in different flavor, and water-spray. Soldiers directing us to the finish on the 50-yard line of Notre Dame Stadium to the sounds of the Irish fight song was awesome.
By: Suzy K.
Posted: June 07, 2005
AWESOME!!!
I would just like to say thank you to the Sunburst Marathon. I thought the race was very well organized. The volunteers were great. There was plenty of water/Gatorade and gels along the way. The course was very well marked. I very much appreciated the sprinklers. That helped with the heat. This was only my second marathon and even though it was hot, I improved my time by 2 minutes. The best part was the finish inside the Notre Dame Stadium.
By: Kristy Honeycutt
Posted: June 07, 2005
Great race
My husband and I ran this as our first marathon. We were both very impressed with how well organized the race was. There were numerous Gatorade and water stands, almost at every mile. Also, there was GU packets as well as vaseline at about every 5 miles or so... first time I've ever seen this before. Not to mention, there were bananas at 4 different stations.
The course was very scenic. I've run a lot of races through industrial parks or bad areas. However, this one was well thought out and most of it was on the river.
I was fortunate enough to run 19 miles with someone I struck up a conversation with. Greg was a semi-local from Kokomo, Indiana and pointed out history throughout the race as we passed it, which made it great. Thanks Greg! You kept me going from mile 4 to 23. I never even hit the wall... something I was worried about.
The humidity and heat was very bad that day, but the volunteers were very good to caution people about it.
My only criticism was that my husband, who runs at a somewhat slower pace, found himself along with others, fending for themselves at about 5:30 hours. All the roads were reopened. In addition, he didn't have any Gatorade after mile 17. The organizers said the race would be manned until 6:15 into it... not true.
Overall though, I would definitely recommend this race. It is much better than the mini-marathon in Indy, which is just too large now.
By: Andrea H.
Posted: June 06, 2005
A wonderful little marathon
After two reasonably large marathons (Columbus and Boston), I decided to try a smaller marathon. In terms of logistics, Sunburst was great. It took us only a few moments to get our race packets, although the "expo" (which consisted of one booth giving away energy drinks that boasted about being carb-free) left something to be desired. We drove the course Friday afternoon and were impressed with how well everything was marked out.
It's not South Bend's fault that the day was hot and humid, which was my primary complaint. Gauging by the finish times in the women's race, I wasn't the only one affected.
I was overwhelmed by how polite other participants were, and the volunteers and the few spectators that were out were greatly appreciated.
The marathon ends on the Notre Dame 50-yard line, which is a great idea in theory. However, when you have the marathoners, half-marathoners and various other walkers all trying to crowd into the stadium at once, you have bedlam. It was incredibly frustating to try to finish strong while jutting around walkers. There were also no cold towels left when I finished (top 30% of the marathon field).
The popsicles, fresh fruit and massage tent at the finish were great, and catching the shuttle bus back to the start line was very well run.
Although I didn't meet my personal goals in this race, I'd recommend it for anyone who wants a nice, small marathon.
By: Diana B.
Posted: June 06, 2005
Nice Course, Well Organized
My husband and I choose marathons in places we have never been and plan a vacation along with the marathon. The Sunburst Marathon lived up to all the good reviews I had read and heard about it. I was especially impressed with the excellent job the police did with traffic control and they were all very friendly. The course is well designed and goes through lots of pretty neighborhoods along the river. The finish in Notre Dame Stadium is awesome. Runners had space to cool down on the grass and get refreshments when they were ready. The people walking around handing out popsicles were just what we needed on that hot/humid day. I'm not one who wants crowds of people cheering on the course so my rating of spectators as 3 stars is really a positive for me. The city of South Bend was easy to get around and our hotel, the Residence Inn (along the course), was a great place to stay!! Thanks to all the organizers and an extra special thanks to all the volunteers who helped make this a very successful event. If you're thinking of doing an early summer marathon then put the 2006 Sunburst Marathon on your race calendar!!
By: Tom D.
Posted: June 06, 2005
Outstanding organization
I'm not sure if I've run in ANY race that was as well organized as this. From the packet pick-up to the finish, it seemed like they had all of their ducks in a row. Plenty of water/Gatorade along the course, along with gels, cold sponges... even vaseline! The course is nice, although a little boring in spots... and more hills that you'd think. The volunteers are what makes this race, what a dedicated, cheerful bunch! They deserve much of the credit for making this race so highly rated.
By: Andrew D.
Posted: June 06, 2005
Friendly flat race, but mighty hot and humid
The Sunburst Marathon is a very nice little marathon. The people of South Bend are extremely friendly and polite and they do a good job organizing the marathon.
The negatives: It can be terribly hot and humid the first weekend in June. The running surface isn't ideal. A few short sections of bricks, some uneven asphalt, and a good dose of concrete sidewalks are hard on the body. The half marathon and the walkers all join the course again late in the race making it very crowded and congested for the last two or three miles.
The positives: The course is generally flat, with only a few little hills. There were ample water stops and the volunteers were all very friendly. They are well organized at the registration, packet pickup, shuttles back to the start.
I'd recommend this marathon, but be careful to consider the heat and humidity when choosing it.
By: Mary S.
Posted: June 05, 2005
This was my 6th 1/2 marathon and I loved it!!!!
Running along the Saint Joseph River was beautiful. Running through the town of South Bend was ok, but the finish on the 50-yard line of Notre Dame Stadium was awesome!!!! I can't wait to run this again next year. After the race, the food was great. I only wish I was able to get a towel at the end.
Once the race was over, we took time to walk through the campus. It was so beautiful that next time I would like stay a day longer.
By: Aaron P.
Posted: June 05, 2005
Fabulous course with one-of-a-kind finish
I've been a fan of Notre Dame football since I was a little kid, so the finish on the 50-yard line was something that I just couldn't pass up. I also liked having the extra early start; no worries about making my hotel check-out time. The course runs up and down the St. Joseph river and is absolutely gorgeous. There were a few small hills but nothing really worth mentioning. The aid stations were well spaced and the volunteers did a great job; except for the very last one. The college kids running that one just stopped at some point and the slower runners didn't get any fluids or help from them at all. I was sick when I ran this race so I was much slower than I could have been, and some water and a little encouragement would have been nice from them that last mile. Other than that, I thought the organization was topnotch and the free massages at the finish added a great touch. It's a small race that starts very early so there aren't many fans along the course, but the ones that were there did a great job cheering everyone on. It's a great race and I'll be back next year; hopefully in better health next time.
By: Craig S.
Posted: June 05, 2005
What happened to the Gatorade???
The weather for the race was just as it was forecasted to be - warm and humid. I'm a middle-of-the-pack runner (was 1:56:00 at the half), and had no Gatorade after the water station around mile 21. I don't understand how the stops can have NO sports drink for that period of time. My hat goes off to those slower runners who had to endure at least that distance on only water.
This pretty much took the joy out of what was otherwise a good race. Runner support needs to be the principal goal of organizers. Hopefully the organizers will make sure this NEVER happens again.
The speakers playing the Notre Dame fight song at the entrance to the stadium was a nice touch, and I'm not even a Notre Dame fan.
By: Theresa P.
Posted: June 05, 2005
No Gatorade The Last Half!
I hate to say anything negative about any marathon. I know how much work goes into pulling all the details together. The Sunburst Marathon has a lovely course along the St. Joseph River through many of South Bend and Mishawaka's beautiful parks. It begins in downtown South Bend outside the College Football Hall of Fame and finishes inside the Notre Dame Football Stadium, which is really great. All of the volunteers were wonderful and very helpful. The t-shirt and medal are nice, too.
One of the main things that appealed to me about this race, other than it being in my home state, is that runners get 6.5 hours to finish. I'm a slow runner and need at least 5.5 hours to finish. If a race is going to allow that amount of time to finish, there needs to be support on the course for ALL the runners, even the slow ones. The race day temp was upper 70's - low 80's, and at mile 14 and after, there was no more Gatorade. That was BAD! I was lucky enough to have a wonderful husband who met me at mile 20 with Gatorade. I also carried extra gels with me, but what about the other slow runners? To run nearly half the race, on a hot day, with nothing to drink but water, was dangerous. With less than 600 marathoners, I'm not sure why they ran out. I'm certain the race director will never let this happen again, so please don't let my comments deter you from signing up. Just keep a few things in mind:
1. Play it safe and bring your own sports drink,
2. Spray your hat or shirt with bug spray. It's very buggy by the river, and
3. Stay at the Marriott in downtown S. Bend. It has really nice rooms, reasonable rates, and the expo and start line are right outside the door.
By: Matt E.
Posted: February 23, 2005
Great small marathon
The Sunburst was great, and I would like to run it again someday. Southbend is a nice town. What I remember most was that there were NO relay runners, which built a level of camaraderie about those who went past mile 13. And the popsicles were awesome at the finish.
By: Chris L.
Posted: July 13, 2004
Nice race, good organization
I had a fun time at this race and managed to run a PR. The course winds along the river for a good chunk and through some neighborhoods. There aren't many spectators, although when we went through one neighborhood, people were spraying us with their hoses and handing out water. It's not the most scenic course in the world, but it has a nice finish under Touchdown Jesus. The expo is small, but nice. And, I had a fun time touring the College Football Hall of Fame. The post-race food was the most impressive I've seen (fresh fruit cups and popsicles). Transportation back to the starting line was also very efficient.
My only gripe was that the race t-shirt was black. It's really not the most practical color for runners. But the medal was nice, and I thought it was a fun race. I will definitely consider it again in the future.
By: Brad L.
Posted: June 14, 2004
A very pleasant and rewarding experience!
This was my fifth marathon and the best organized of them all - Chicago (2X), New York, and Big Sur. Although small without a lot of the fanfare, the race organizers went overboard to help everyone - not just the elite runners, but everyone. The course was pretty, very flat, and well manned with Gatorade and water almost every mile. The spectators, while small in number, were very supportive and encouraging. And as a Notre Dame fan, finishing underneath touchdown Jesus was an experience on par with any other marathon finish!
This is a great race to run for those trying to qualify for Boston. I will definitely be back next year!
By: Michael B.
Posted: June 11, 2004
Quality small-market marathon
This was my 5th marathon but my 1st small one. The positives: The course was interesting & pretty... runs for the most part along the St. Joseph River and is mostly shady and mostly flat with only a few hills (one stubborn one late in the race caught me a bit off guard). There were plenty of water/Gatorade/gel stops, course well marked, volunteers friendly & helpful, & post-race meal was about the best I've had, and included a full course lunch... the 5:45am start was great! The few negatives (for me anyway) was that there were no specators (except at the finish), and the field was so small (less than 450 finishers) that you really needed to stay focused, as there was no one to pull you along. I ran many miles completely by myself, which isn't that easy... Also, unfortunately there was no ND stadium finish due to construction (though that's no fault of the race director). The pasta dinner was only so-so. I would reccommend this race to anyone looking for a low-key marathon. Was worth the trip. Oh, and I did make the Boston qualifying time!
By: Pamela P.
Posted: June 11, 2004
It was a beautiful day and a great course.
I really enjoyed running along the river and the tree-lined streets. The weather was perfect and we had more than enough water stops. I was most impressed with all the porta-potties.
By: Steve Rice
Posted: June 09, 2004
Smaller marathon with big-city class
This was such a first-class, well organized marathon, how could you not reccomend it? Just over 400 runners, but every mile was clearly marked, many aid stations, port-a-johns, energy gel, bananas, wet sponges. The organizers did a super job of taking care of the runners. AND, the ice cold, wet towels at the finish line were heaven-sent.
The course is a double out-and-back so there were two opportunities to see the leaders and for the runners to encourage each other. I agree with the other comments that the course was very enjoyable, especially along the river. Hills were minimal; biggest hill was between 24 and 25 miles, but that was not too bad. Hearing the Notre Dame fight song as I approached the finish line made me feel like 'Rudy'!! Spectators were minimal, probably due largely to the 5:45am start time, but the spectators that were out were very enthusiastic. Definitely would recommend this marathon.
By: Jim Skibo
Posted: June 06, 2004
Small race with gorgeous scenery.
OVERALL: Really nice smaller marathon. Beautiful scenery over nicely varied terrain next to a very scenic river. I think the locals take what they have for granted!
FIELD: The 2004 full marathon had a little more than 400 runners and that made for a very uncrowded course and I liked that. It was like running with some of your friends.
ORGANIZATION: Flawless. There were a LOT of aid stations and they were all well-stocked with perfectly mixed Gatorade. Sponges at many stations. Iced-down towels for you at the finish!
COURSE: This was the first time I’ve run this and I think it is one of the prettiest race courses I’ve run. It parallels the St. Joseph river and has heavily tree-lined routes most of the way. I think the word 'bucolic' is appropriate. The course is basically flat. The elevation chart on the Web site shows some hills, but they are only a 50’ elevation change. There wasn’t any extended hill climb anywhere... just a few rises and falls... which is about what you’d expect in any stretch of running.
TEMPS: I chose it because it was a late spring race that is in a city that has nice 50-degree starting temps and doesn’t get much above 60 by the end. It was basically a clear day, but there were plenty of shaded stretches and the sun really wasn’t a factor.
SPECTATORS. There weren’t many spectators, but for me that’s OK. If I’m comfortable, I’m zoned-out anyway. The occasional residents mowing their yards and waving was fine. Several very thoughtful families had their sprinklers running and aimed at the street in case you wanted a spray to cool you down.
GOODIES: The finisher's medal is cool and you get a special 'Marathon' T-shirt with slick graphics.
By: Steven H.
Posted: June 06, 2004
A Nice Event
I ran the half in 2004. The course always seemed to moving from an uphill to downhill; very little level ground. The organization is great. Aid stations were very well attended. There were virtually no spectators on the entire course which is fine because I prefer running alone. The out and back aspect of the race ensured you weren't by yourself for long. Overall, a nice run.
By: Douglas C.
Posted: June 05, 2004
Great run... recommend it
Good course... basically flat w/ river views around every turn. Good management as well - worth the drive from TN.
By: Tony Stidham
Posted: July 19, 2003
Great Finish Area, Low Crowd Support, CONCRETE
I loved finishing on the 50-yard line at ND Stadium. I didn't like the idea of running 75% or more of the marathon on concrete streets - seemed like the whole race was on concrete. Crowd support was very sparse for several 2-3 mile stretches. Registration was smooth and effecient, finish area was well-stocked, and massage area was nice. Would not recommend this race if you don't train on a lot of concrete, or if you depend on lots of crowd support.
By: Richard N.
Posted: June 28, 2003
Hard to top a finish like this one!
Got a medal and a T-shirt (with safety pins included). Kudos to the volunteers and the participating police for their fine efforts. Best of all: that finish in Notre Dame Stadium! Running through the tunnel, with the fight song blasting away, and out onto the field (not the sidelines, the 'field') will become an unforgetable memory. Almost felt like a religious experience (and I'm a Buckeyes fan). Thanks, Sunburst and South Bend!
By: Linda G.
Posted: June 26, 2003
Was not organized at all
Race ran out of safety pins, t-shirts, medals. Couldn't have Gatorade at just any water stop, unless I was in the marathon. Three buses for hundreds of finishers wanting to retreive their cars. I was told at the end of the half that I had to walk to another area to get a drink, not the first water site I staggered to. I ran the half-marathon, not the full, but should that matter? NO!
By: Rick M.
Posted: June 25, 2003
Flat, Friendly, Fun, & Football
Great Job, South Bend. This is my 8th state marathon. I love Saturday Marathons; I don't have to jump in the car and head for home. I can walk around and see the sights. (I loved the Hall of Fame and the kayak course). A big plus was that after walking around, I was not sore at all the next day. I loved the flat course through the neighborhoods. Two short hills (50' & 65') with 3% and 4% grades are not worth mentioning. The early start, 5:45, was smart. Water and restrooms were almost every mile. Great traffic control, t-shirts, and medal. I will highly recommend this marathon to everyone back home. Also, thank you for allowing late registrations.
By: dee t.
Posted: June 15, 2003
Very nice experience
I want to add my compliments to the race. Plenty of aid stations, and great organization, scenery, and volunteers. I don't mind out-and-back; it is interesting to see who is in front and behind. There was some concrete, but I ran alongside in the street, and when the sun did come out, it was behind me. The so called 'hills' were slight, and gave the leg muscles a chance to stretch. My motel did not give a late checkout, so I went to the YMCA for a post-race shower before leaving town. I highly recommend taking the one-hour tour of ND campus, and a visit to Amish Acres in nearby Nappanee. The entire visit was a very nice experience. Thank you South Bend.
By: Kim S.
Posted: June 11, 2003
Well Organized Small-Town Race
I ran the Sunburst Marathon for the first time this year, and thoroughly enjoyed the experience. Packet pick up was efficient, plenty of water/sport drink stops throughout the course, great traffic control by the South Bend police, and a fun finish on the 50-yard line of the Notre Dame Stadium. I was surprised at how many spectators came out to watch the race that early in the morning. The course seemed no more difficult than the other marathons I have run. All in all, this is a marathon I will recommend to others.
By: Phil M.
Posted: June 11, 2003
Many Improvements made in the last 2 years
I ran this race for the second time in 3 years, and I find that I must disagree with some of the previous comments. I think that the race director really takes all the feedback seriously and makes improvements to the race while also trying to run a series of events that allow for maximum participation from the community and region. I found many improvements this year, such as more water stations and portapotties. The course does have some concrete, but it is probably unfair to say that it comprises a major part of the course. I will take the concrete on this course as opposed to being forced to run out in isolated industrial park areas, as I have in some marathons. I think that the support from both volunteers and traffic control was outstanding, and that there were more spectators out there than in 2001. Really, for the entry fee charged, this event is a great value.
I don't know that any marathon is for beginners, but I can't see how this is a worse choice than many others. It was unfortunate that they ran out of medals (I didn't get one either), but I imagine that this will never happen again, given the organization of the staff. I am sure it was because they had a big walk-up entry (one of the few races I have seen that WILL take day-of-race entry). I just hope most of the first-timers got a medal that day. I will always be glad to offer mine so that a first-timer can have that reward. Races this time of year will be hot, and it has a couple of minor hills, but that's what makes a marathon an accomplishment.
If you don't recommend this one to your friends, then it is their loss!
By: Jeff D.
Posted: June 10, 2003
Not a bad marathon for June
This was my ninth marathon, and I thoroughly enjoyed it. The race was very well organized with plenty of aid stations and water. Had a few hills, but nothing major. If you like large marathons with lots of spectators, this wouldn't be for you. Great finish at Notre Dame. They did run out of medals, which would have made me fairly peeved, if it had been my first marathon
By: Jim S.
Posted: June 10, 2003
Hills at mile 24, and they ran out of medals
I agree with a lot of the comments by S.D. Water stops were good. Half of the course was scenic. Be prepared: at mile 9, you start down a large hill, and at miles 23 to 25, you go back up it and more. The finish is nice, but climbing the steps out of the stadium is painful. Also, the medals are awarded to the earliest finishers. They ran out of medals, and it did not matter whether you pre-registered or not; you did not get a medal if you weren't fast enough. The slower finishers may get medals someday, and the organizers are not taking responsibility for getting them to you. You have to email them to request them. For you half-marathoners, be prepared to be treated like second-class citizens. You are not allowed free samples of GU, foot salts, etc at the expo unless you run the marathon. If you want the very small poster of the event, you have to buy one; they are given to the marathoners. I realize this is their first year for the half, but they need to rethink this event. They had 3 times as many for the half as the marathon, so they need better organization for it.
By: Mike N.
Posted: June 10, 2003
Well organized, but needs many improvements
First let me say that I found the organizers of this race to be very professional. I think that for the size of the race they do a great job. However, there were many areas that I think could be improved upon. The course is an out-and-back course that I did not particularly care for, and it also has more hills than I anticipated. I don't think this race is for beginners. Also, I was disappointed by the lack of community support throughout the course; not many spectators around. The finish was great, but they ran out of medals, which I find unforgivable. I was disappointed in the fact that they only had water in small cups at the end of the race. But they did have plenty to eat at the end, and the fruit was fresh and very good. This is not the best race that I have run, and I don't know that I would recommend it. All in all, I would rate it a 3-star.
By: Mike W.
Posted: June 09, 2003
Great town, good race, not a PR course.
The course was tougher than I expected, and the hills, although not steep, were plentiful. It was a good decision to start the race early due to the heat, as it was close to 74 at 9:15 AM. The run was well organized, and the water stations were around every turn - and there were many (turns). It was great finishing on the 50-yard line, but it would have been that much better had there been cold beer with the cold towels. It seemed odd that the walkers course crossed the marathon course at mile 25, but the walkers were great supporters of the runners, and maybe it was a good idea.
I had a great time in South Bend and would recommend this race to others.
By: Rodger P.
Posted: June 09, 2003
A nice place for my first small marathon
First time that I've run a marathon with less than 1,000 runners. The location is easy to get to, with plenty of parking. The lack of spectators didn't help my attempt to qualify for Boston. But the volunteers were great. The course had too many twists and turns, and changes of surface. The roads were in bad shape after a rough winter. Towards the end, the marathoners merged into crowds of runners doing the half-marathon and 10K, which slowed us down. The finish made up for the negatives. Touchdown Jesus, the Irish fight song, Notre Dame Stadium, the ice-cold towels, popsicles, and bowls of fresh fruit were great. It took a very long time to post the marathon results. I felt like the event was run more for the benefit of the half-marathon and 10K runners. The expo was very small, the tee-shirt is quite colorful, and Chicago was close enough to visit during the weekend. South Bend seemed like a nice, friendly but sleepy town. I will always remember the Sunburst as the place where I qualified for Boston! Thank you!
By: jim f.
Posted: June 09, 2003
Trying To Get It Right
This was my 142nd marathon.
The Bad: They ran out of t-shirts, no goodie bags, the crown in the road made my ankles ache, suprisingly hilly course, they did not have enough aid stations to accommodate the weather, they ran out of finisher's medals, and there was no beer at finish. After this one, I could've really gone for a cold beer.
The Good: Easy to find start, plenty of parking, port-a-potties & bathrooms at Football Hall of Fame, enthusiastic volunteers, more GU/Powergel than any other marathon that I've ever run, ice cold towels at finish, mostly closed course, excellent police support, efficient shuttle back to start, a free hat and, of course, finish at Notre Dame Stadium.
I'll run this one again.
By: Jeff D.
Posted: June 08, 2003
If you like lots of turns
This course was interesting (there were several scenic places along the course), and the finish was wonderful. We actually ran through the tunnel with the fight song and finished on the 50-yard line of Notre Dame Stadium. My problem was that the course had too many turns. Every time I tried to get a pace, we had to stop and turn again. Overall, I do not recommend this race for a beginner. It could be very discouraging.
By: Seth d.
Posted: June 08, 2003
Very well organized race
I want to start by commending the race staff for a professional and well organized race. The staff and volunters are first rate, and as good as I have found in the 31 other marathons I have run. The course, while intended to be as scenic as possible, is mostly run on cement, which pounds the legs and feet. Although the race runs by a river for long stretches, it can not be called a scenic race. The area is just not that beautiful. Due to the time of year and how quickly it gets hot, the race starts very early. The start time explains while there are few spectators, but those who show up are very enthusiastic. Even with the early start, it got quite hot for runners taking over 4 hours to finish. The finish in Notre Dame Stadium is very impressive; unfortunatly, the rest of the course lacks the same appeal. The volunters and staff are very warm and friendly, and make you feel very welcome and appreciated. I was glad I did the race, and would recommend it to my friends, warts and all. The people make an area as they do the race, and the warmth and congeniality of the people of South Bend overcome the deficiencies of the race.
By: Jim S.
Posted: January 29, 2003
Beautiful setting - South Bend is a great town!
What a pretty town South Bend is! I remember one stretch along the river that was particularly beautiful. And how can you top the 50 yard-line finish?
By: Maurice A.
Posted: January 15, 2003
Great race but beware of the heat!
Very well organized with efficient packet pick-up and registration. Plenty of water and gatorade throughout the course. The finish in Notre Dame Stadium is well worth some of the more mundane stretches in the last half of the marathon. Be prepared for the heat because it's June in Indiana.
By: Anonymous
Posted: June 21, 2002
3rd Consecutive Sunburst Marathon
This race is very well organized at the start and finish. However, some areas in between need to be worked on. This was my 3rd consecutive year running this marathon and have lowered my time/place each year I have run. 2000 (4:19) 2001 (3:38) 2002 (3:23). Not a bad time for running that extra mile. If it wasn't for the mixup between miles 11-12 I probably could have qualified for the Boston Marathon because I had great splits going to that point. However, I am not disappointed because I lowered my time and had a blast. The good definitely out distanced the bad in this race as I hope to be back next year unless I run a different marathon.
By: Anonymous
Posted: June 18, 2002
Not recommended for slow runners
If you are a slower runner potentially up against the road opening times, I'd recommend choosing another race. In 2002 the roads were opened well before the times posted on the website, and water stops were broken down and cars were zooming past the last 10 miles. Good thing we carried a map or we would have been lost.
By: Anonymous
Posted: June 14, 2002
What a Way To Finish!
The beginning and end of this course are wonderful. Miles 14 - 21 are a little less appealing.
Great organization and course support. A good choice if you're looking to avoid the crowds.
The finish in the stadium is truly memorable!
By: Anonymous
Posted: June 11, 2002
Worth the trip - great experience.
Well organized. I liked the small town feel. Small crowd but enthusiastic. Running through the parks and running in Notre Dame stadium were great. Plenty of water/Gatorade, volunteers were excellent and it was a well marked course. Recovering in Notre Dame stadium was fantasic with the cold, wet towels and the great selection of food/drinks. There were some hills (mile 25) but nothing really drastic. Definitely a worthwhile marathon to add to your list.
By: Anonymous
Posted: June 10, 2002
Add this one to your list!
Nice course! I had no idea South Bend was so beautiful. Thanks for the tour.
Friendly volunteers. Plenty to drink. Attractive medal. Exciting finish line! And lets not forget the cold wet towels at the end !! Much better race than I was expecting. You can PR here if you can handle the heat. Not many fans out but those that are will cheer everyone who runs.
By: Anonymous
Posted: June 10, 2002
What a Finish!
I enjoyed running this marathon more than I thought I would. This was my 5th marathon, the others I had done were larger and I wasn't expecting much out of such a small marathon - but I was wrong. The volunteers were great and there was plenty of water and Gatorade available. The course was nice and I really loved ending up in the stadium. The post race refreshments were plentiful - a good selection. The shuttle buses were very easy to get to and the wait wasn't long. Everyone was helpful and friendly and the crowds of people and racers were not overwhelming. There were not many spectators but many residents put their sprinklers out to the street to help cool off the runners - THANK YOU! Good Job, South Bend!
By: Anonymous
Posted: June 09, 2002
The cold, wet towel lady for President!!!!!
Ran yesterday's (June 8, 2002) version. I would not suggest this for a first timer...this was my second and while cooler then my first Sunburst (in 2000) the...well let me say I know why they call it 'THE SUNBURST'.
Cold wet towels at the end. AWESOME. Good support w/ H2O and Gatorade along the way. Two-three tuff hills but nothing too drastic.
By: Anonymous
Posted: February 01, 2002
he's at the 20, 30, 40, 50...and needs H2O badly
I needed to check Indiana off my marathon list. I love the small, grass-roots feel races like this one. Course was somewhat forgettable except for the river, park and the finish line. Mostly flat except for a hill late in the race. The sprint into the tunnel and across the 50 yard line brought back memories of my playing days. Well organized. Plenty of water, well marked course, early starts are the best. Great cooling showers available on the field. Classy award plaques. Not many spectators, but they were supportive.
We camped at a state park just outside South Bend. The weekend was a good time for the whole family.
By: Anonymous
Posted: November 03, 2001
First Marathon
There is nothing like running into Notre Dame stadium after this run! Generally a flat course until you hit the last 3 or 4 miles. I got cramps in both calf muscles at mile marker 21 so the last couple miles were sheer hell.
Expo prior to the run was bogus. Only a half a dozen stands with average merchandise. College Football Hall of Fame is worth it. I spent all afternoon with my brother enjoying the history of the game. Stay at the Marriott across the street which is convenient to the starting line. South Bend is not the most interesting small city I've ever been to. Tried to find a market/grocery store within walking distance in town to buy bananas and couldn't find one. Asked a local resident and they said there weren't any.
Course has some spots where you run over grass and hop up onto sidewalks but overall its OK. The St. Joseph River is nice to run along but its not very scenic. Volunteers at aid stations are very supportive and plenty to drink even though I cramped up. Crowd is sparse but enthusiastic. Saw a sign held up by a small boy at mile 16 that was awesome: 'Pain is temporary - Memories are forever.' It came at the right time.
There is nothing like running through the tunnel entering Notre Dame stadium. When I entered the stadium I just took it all in. WOW!
Thanks Bob, Jaala & Denise. Without your support and encouragement I would have never done this.
By: Anonymous
Posted: September 03, 2001
The concept was nice, but......
Running across the 50 yd line at Notre Dame stadium was anti-climactic after putting up with a poorly marked course (a dozen or so of us took a 300 yd detour because of missing a turn by the river), very warm water and gatorade at some of the tables, and three months later, I still haven't received my certificate in the mail. The start was very well organized. The website is very well done and informative and the race director is very prompt with her responses. The t-shirt is uncreative and plain.
By: Anonymous
Posted: June 19, 2001
ND stadium a great place to finish
After finishing my 1st marathon at Chicago last year, I wanted to try a smaller race this year. If you don't mind running the last 4 miles with very little crowd support along with the 40 degree hill at the 24 mile post, this could be the race for you. This marathon is very well organized and the finish at the 50 yard line at ND stadium is great. Also, the aids at the end of the race were very helpful.
p.s. I didn't know they had hills in South Bend. I do now!
By: Anonymous
Posted: June 15, 2001
Hall of Fame....to Notre Dame
By the end (5+ hours – my slowest yet) I was extremely grateful for the early start (6:00 a.m.). The start was well organized and decorated, but was not directly in front of the College Football Hall of Fame.
There were sufficient aid stations and spectators through most of the race. Toward the end the traffic control got a little too thin. Two runners ahead of me had to stop for some cars. Some beautiful river scenery scattered throughout the course. The only thing that I did not like was the steady hill from mile marker 24 all the way to mile marker 25. By that time I was tired, it was warm, and there was little shade.
The stadium finish was a great incentive and perk, but my friends all ended up with sunburn. Maybe that is why they call it the Sunburst Marathon. It would have been nice for the marathon to provide a spectators guide with suggested spectator viewing areas. Parts of the course that would have been great for spectators were inaccessible (like Pinhook Park – Mile 4).
Good website! I really liked their graphics of the course – not just a map but an elevation diagram, too. It had lots of other good information and links to other sites pointing out things to do in the area. My spectators and I took in the Greene Township Lions Club 32nd Annual Strawberry Festival at Camp Millhouse the afternoon following the race, and had a great time.
By: Anonymous
Posted: June 10, 2001
Scenic, diversified course with incredible finish.
Sunburst was my second marathon. It was a warm sunny day, a little too warm, but there was plenty of water and FR. I was in contact with the director via email and she was VERY prompt in responding! The volunteers were friendly and the race was well organized. The finish is overwhelmingly spectacular! Notre Dame stadium is full of electricity even when the stands are empty! It makes you feel like you could sprint the last 385 yards!
By: Anonymous
Posted: June 10, 2001
Great community showcase...well organized
This is a very nice course along the river in South Bend and Mishawauka. Low humidity and cool temperatures in 2001 (probably 74 @ noon) There were a surprising number of marathoners from throughout the country. There were other events (5K, 10 K) going on at the same time, but they have staggered starts so there is no interference. There is a lot of community involvement in this event...I felt it was a very impressive showcase for the city. The race was a good value for the entry fee charged...it is a 'big time' event with a personal feel. More water stations and portapotties than advertised !! The finish in the stadium was a big 'up' for me (worth the hill climb at mile 24). You will not be sorry if you choose this for your spring marathon !!
By: Anonymous
Posted: February 12, 2001
Be sure to watch the movie Rudy before you run!
Have run it twice now.
Nice that it starts at 6 am to beat the heat.
South Bend folks very supportive... some wonderful family had fresh strawberries and watermelon at mile 16 in 2000.
Great finish in Notre Dame stadium.
Very well organized.
By: Anonymous
Posted: June 13, 2000
Want to feel like Rudy?
There are not too many things more inspiring than Touchdown Jesus. Unfortunately, you don't see Him until the end in which you race through the historic Notre Dame tunnel and to the 50. The run in 2000 was horribly hot and humid. I'd never seen so many resort to walking (myself included). Hydrate well or pay with cramps. Water only every two miles. Start is at the College Football Hall of Fame and the run is quiet and scenic along the St. Joseph River, but the hills come at the worst time. I was caught in a group of hills after mile 20 with no shade and no water. Besides the weather and water, the race is a definite to do if you enjoy college football.
By: Anonymous
Posted: May 22, 2000
Interesting course,couple of hills
The course is scenic in places finishing in the Notre Dame stadium.It is mostly flat, although there are a couple of hills.It is possible to run a good time, but only if the weather is not too hot.In 1999 it was in the mid 60s at the start and very humid, rising into the upper 70s.
By: Anonymous
Posted: March 28, 2000
middle of the road marathon
Great finish at ND stadium
Not enough water stops
hot weather, should have water every mile
Great course along the river
Not very many spetators, although some had sprinklers pointed in the street, which was refreshing.
I would run it again if I get a chance.