By: Tom W.
Posted: January 22, 2019
Unexpected stop for the train
I have completed 80+ marathons prior to Charleston Marathon. I ran with the 3:30 pacer during this race. We had to stop for a train between mile 10 and 11. This was the first time that I had to stop for a train during a marathon. I managed to run a Boston qualifying finish despite this train delay. However don't know how many runners missed their goals by this train delay.
By: Derik H.
Posted: January 17, 2018
Worst Marathon out of the Last 10 I Have Run
I'm an experienced marathon runner with 10 marathons under my belt including Boston 2013 and a full Ironman. This was far and away THE WORST course I have ever run in my life. Crowd support was almost non-existent and who could blame anyone for that...the course had you running mostly out and back loops through undesirable ghetto areas. At one point you run down a dock and turn around and run back. I will say that the course was well staffed and I never had issues w/ water or gels. Packet pickup was smooth and easy. The medal was nice. But..the course...I won't be coming back to Charleston and I wouldn't recommend you go either until a serious revision is made because no one in there right mind wants to see the nonsense on this course.
By: Gretchen M.
Posted: January 15, 2018
The worst marathon course I have ever run!
This was my 7th marathon, and I chose it because of the flat terrain, hoping for a BQ. I read the reviews about out-and-back loops and I suppose I underestimated how mentally defeating those would feel for the entire second half of the race. We were also hit with a 15 mph headwind for the majority of the race. There were virtually no crowds at all until the finish line with only a few hundred people. Water/aid stations were plentiful, but some weren't even manned with volunteers-I have never experienced that before.
I was on track to BQ at the half marathon point, but finished 10 minutes slower than my goal due to these other factors. I would NEVER run this race ever again. The city of Charleston is beautiful and that portion of the race is gorgeous. Perhaps if the weather had been warmer and less windy I would have had a more positive experience.
By: di c.
Posted: December 13, 2017
No longer a hometown race
Race has been robbed from local organizers!
It used to be a local race supporting local a local charity but they got greedy and hired a for profit race outfit. Expect a 'corporate' feel with even less music / fun than 'advertised by an R&R race'!!
Could be a really great run if the mayor of Charleston ever let a quality course be set up.
(Everyone thought it would change with the change in mayor but it didn't.)
The after party (pre2018) AWESOME!!! Shrimp & Grits and plenty of beer & mimosas!!
-doubt the thought and care will be the same...no profit in a great party.
Lots of turns in the last 10 miles.
Other than that...perfectly straight!
SUPER flat with the exception of a road bridge at mile 9...prob a whopping 30 foot elevation change...but when you've been flat for so long feels like a mountain!
Oh...bring some caffeine for miles 5-15...SO BOORING...
Long distance point to point ->No walking back to the start!
Be prepared to shuttle if you are not local!!
(I am so always had a car at both ends...)
...never heard a problem with the shuttles though.
By: Eric K.
Posted: March 10, 2016
Sea Level, Flat Course In Perfect Running Weather.
C Please note. (as explained to me by a local) The fact that the race starts in Charleston and ends in North Charleston is due to (mainly) the city of Charleston asking for their police and medical personnel to be paid for the time they spend on marathon activities. (As opposed to the personnel of North Charleston providing the services for free, so I heard!) Some people complain about the fact that the marathon doesn't pass through the exotic streets of downtown Charleston (a bland, unexciting race) but this is entirely not the organizers' fault. Big City, big city politics. Many city marathons run through 'rough, depopulated and desolate' stretches and a seasoned (meaning having run more than one!) marathoner would know that by now. I also have this uncanny feeling that the bourgeoisie don't want you running in their neighborhoods and they probably have a say in marathon routes. Can't please everyone! In any case, all marathons have stages where they'll have 'filler roads' that are not ordinarily used by traffic or have light traffic to reduce congestion when a race of such magnitude is going on. 'You are not in Boston anymore!'
C I watched the video of the entire 26.2 mile course that was on their website (and YouTube I think) From the video, I could tell that the route was not taking you through the scenic downtown Charleston that they show on brochures but I was mentally ready for that. Watch the video to get an idea of the race and where the runners pass through so that you may make the decision as to whether the race is 'scenic' enough for you...
C Bring along sunglasses (for the first 3 miles and more, as you race next to the water and the sun shining brightly on your face) and shoes with good cushioning. Some parts of the race have a pebble like feel to them (for the full marathon) and I was thankful for the good sole cushioning. If you usually don't run with, or accustomed to minimalist shoes, this is not the race to do it.
The various reasons to run the Charleston marathon.
1. ALL The proceeds from the marathon are used to fund the arts in Charleston public schools, a very noble and selfless cause especially in these days of non-existent funding for the arts and dying art forms in the USA.
2. As a marathon in January, it is a perfect race for many of those (like myself) who live in the snowy Northeast, Midwest and Northwest respectively. A January race forces you/one to keep training through the winter months instead of hibernating, keeping you well trained and toned throughout the year, meaning that when majority of the races in Spring start, you shall be ahead of those who didn't train through the winter. It was a balmy 60 degrees in 2016 but it was below freezing some years before so just beware.
3. It is a relatively inexpensive race to register for and Charleston is a relative inexpensive city to visit. For the winter months, most marathons are mostly in the warm states of Florida, California and Texas. If you are traveling from far away, the races in Florida and California are more expensive to register for and the flight, accommodation and rental car fees are higher than those found in Charleston for the most part. If you are racing on a budget, keep this in mind. A man of modest means like me jumped at the opportunity. Book early for reasonable deals.
4. If you are doing the 50 marathons in 50 states challenge, this is the perfect marathon to cross the state of South Carolina aka South Cackalacky off your list!
5. At sea level, ideal running weather and a relatively flat course, this is the perfect race to PR and BQ in.
6. They have a 60 mile bike race for cyclists on the Sunday after the main running road races on Saturday, which is a unique and additional attraction.
7. They allow bib transfers (for a fee) and same-day early morning race registration! I have never come across a race that does this. In case you get injured, a loved one or family friend can run in your spot! You can jet in/drive in and sign up for the race that day! Amazing!
8. It's a big city race with a small country feeling to it. You need to be there to experience it.
9. It's held on the Martin Luther King Jr weekend, so, since the Monday after the race is a holiday, (assuming you have Monday off) you have the extra day to recuperate, tour Charleston or volunteer on the actual Monday in events in Charleston. A win win in my opinion.
Traveling to Charleston
C Travel arrangements are very personal and differ from one person to the next. For the out-of-towners, if flying into Charleston, the Charleston International Airport is the main airport and they have car rental services right beside the main airport buildings which you have to walk to. (When it's raining, it's not pleasant, so be aware) I purchased a vacation package from Priceline which covered airfare, car rental and hotel accommodations. This is the cheapest way to do it. (I think)
C There is Amtrak, especially for us folks from the NorthEast and Greyhound for those who use buses.
C Alternatively, if using public transportation is your thing, or you watch your carbon footprint, after you get to Charleston, there is a public transit bus that will get you from the airport to Burke High school. You can get the information from google maps or Apple Maps and see the schedules for the buses. There are a couple of hotels about half a mile from the start line and many runners had booked these hotels due to the ease of walking from the hotels, to the expo or the start line respectively. These hotels are the Charleston Marriott, downtown Charleston Comfort Inn and Hilton Garden Inn respectively.
C I had carried a couple of GU gels (about 5) and salt stick capsules through security and there was no problem. You can get your gels from the expo or if you use GNC products, there is a GNC store in Charleston in case you don't want to deal with airport security throwing away your prized gels and protein shakes!
The Expo
C The expo was small but very well organized. Everything was within reach. It was held at Burke High school in Charleston (on Friday, January 15 2016, the day before the marathon) which is where the marathon starts. There were various vendors at the expo, mainly local. Some of the vendors included Community coffee, local Apples, Talbot juice, cheese, grocery store, accel energy drink and common fit personal trainers. The previous year's running gear was on sale at a discount just in case you misplaced yours or just needed a souvenir. I saw individual vendors selling Running buddy pouches, GU gels, body glide, shoe inserts, running gear and so on. If you don't have cash, all have card readers for your debit/credit card purchases.
C They had a local band doing cover songs!
C They have a pre-race dinner between 5-8pm on Friday, which caters for both herbivores and carnivores. It's priced reasonably at $10 (or $7 online prior to the date)
The Marathon
Mile 1 to mile 13.1
C All runners (half and full marathoners) start at the same time so the start is crowded. At the start, they have pacers who carry placards up in the air showing you expected finish times, from 3.30-3.45 full marathon finish time with 15 minute time increments till 5.00 or 5.30, for both the half and the full. The placards are visibly high and hard to miss. The pacers have pacer t-shirts on them. (Kudos to those pacers for carrying those placards for 26.2 miles!) They have no corrals like the bigger races so if running fast or keeping ahead of the pack is your thing, then keep to the front. The first 3-5 miles are a bit crowded but I don't think there is a big city marathon where you shall avoid a crowded beginning. Mile 1 starts from Burke High School and curves through Lockwood drive and Murray Boulevard, with the waterfront on the right. After mile 3, the race runs from the White Point gardens through the city of Charleston on King Street before inching its way forward towards North Charleston. As the race approaches North Charleston, there are industrial areas that would probably put off someone out to enjoy scenic views while running the race. No big deal here.
C From mile 6-8, you pass through some North Charleston neighborhoods. Not all houses here have a white picket fence but a marathon should take you round neighborhoods that don't have million dollar houses. There are thousands of runners and there is nothing to be 'afraid' of when running through some of these neighborhoods. Very friendly people who are cheering you on I might add.
C As the runners approach mile 8 or 9, there is a slight incline on Viaduct Street, not really steep. Once you are past the incline and bridge, the half marathoners run straight and the full marathoners keep left on their way to the Marina and the Federal facility. This might be discouraging to some runners as one sees elite runners running back to the 'main course' to join the rest of the runners while you have quite a bit to go. Never mind, there are slower runners than you and that might act as a 'motivation' to let you know that you are not doing too badly. The energy gels are to be found on mile 10 and there are water stations. I learned from runners to create a v-shaped wedge/funnel on the paper cup that contains the Gatorade or water to have the water go into your mouth perfectly with no spills! You have no idea how handy this tip is. You can always tell I have just completed a race by my Gatorade stained clothes! There are places that had a puddle of water on your way to (and back from) the marina and runners' shoes did get wet. It had however rained the day before.
Mile 13.1 to 26.2
C This is where the fun and agony begins! This is a very desolate race at this point and its devoid of the mainly huge crowds you would find in, say, the Philadelphia (insert mega city here) marathon. The only people you'll see are your fellow runners, volunteers manning water stations and police and medical personnel. Once you are past the marina and Federal facility, you trudge on to N Hobson Avenue, close to Hunley Observation Laboratories. You shall be running through mostly industrial buildings and there shall be a couple of rail tracks that you shall have to run over. The rail tracks are not raised and it's no big deal. On mile 18, you shall get onto Buist Avenue where you shall meet runners faster than you running opposite you 3 or so miles before the finish line. You'll hit Park Circle before coming to the Academic Magnet High School on mile 20 and go round the school as you go back to the residential neighborhoods. As you approach mile 25, the scenery changes and you are exposed to a beautiful water view on Riverfront park. The stretch is about half a mile long and you are back to Noisette Blvd as you head towards N Charleston High School for the finish.
The Finish. Post run refreshments and entertainment.
C once you have hobbled to the finish line, your name is announced and a finisher's medal hang on your neck. The finisher's medal was an attractive medal that featured the art theme of the marathon itself, which was unique. The marathon t-shirt was also emblazoned with the same art. If you run with a smartphone like I do, ask the nice volunteers to take a pic of you at the finish line if you don't have someone (family/friend) to take it for you. This is for memories' sake.
C There is an array of hydration options at the water station. There is water, Gatorade, beet juice, Coke and other types of soda, (never seen soda on offer after a race before) muffins, bananas, apples and so on. Once you are past the water stations, there are various tents with various refreshments. They include a delicious small bowl of shrimp grits, beer on tap (Samuel Adams cold frost and a grape flavor) and orange juice and champagne, redeemable from the stubs that are on your race bib. They also have peanuts on offer, both original non-flavored and chili flavored, which I enjoyed taking out of their shells.
C One attractive theme of the races is the entertainment on offer at the finish line. There were various bands that were playing and these bands were very good, playing everything from country music, R&B, hip hop, country and pop music. Many were playing cover songs and I am sure some were playing original songs. There was also some bouncing castle thing for the kids that involved Velcro tape and kids jumping into the bouncing castle and sticking themselves on it!
C There were various tents with sponsors of the race and most were manned to provide information about the products on offer.
C There were announcements by the master of ceremonies announcing the 3rd place finishers, runners up and winners in the 5K, half marathon and marathon. Various winners in the various age group categories were also announced. The mayor of North Charleston was also present and participating.
C They had places to shower at the school at the finish line and also at the start line. You can put your bath accessories in your race bag, which you can use to shower either at the start or finish line high school showers respectively.
C There was a shuttle service (school buses) that was ferrying runners from the finish line (in North Charleston) to the start line at Burke High school in Charleston. It was very efficient and ran every 30 minutes or so. There were no waiting lines.
C Remember the bags that you left at the start line in the UHaul trailer? They bring the bags to the finish line. I made the mistake of getting onto the bus thinking I was going to find the items at the start line and had to take the same shuttle back to the finish line to retrieve the items.
C Some restaurants and eateries have discounts for runners on Saturday evening. You have to find out from the race organizers or social media.
Chip times and the running Apps and smartwatches comparisons
C Amazingly, the chip times were being broadcast in real time to your (the runner's) email account. They showed the chip times at the 11.8 mile mark, 20 mile mark and 26.2 mile finish line mark. Maybe this may stop a potential future race bandit? Hopefully!
C There were also loudspeakers that were broadcasting the amount of time one had spent on the road. This was helpful for those with no gadgets to tell time. However, many people looked like they had some sort of stop watch/smartwatch or were running with their phones on their armbands. (With running apps running most likely)
C I primarily use Runkeeper from my phone and I have a Fitbit. Runkeeper showed the total distance to be 26.79 miles (showed my Philadelphia marathon distance to be 26.70 and Delaware 26.47) I also use the Walkjogrun app just in case the Runkeeper app crashes and it showed a total of 26.67 miles (26.47 in Philadelphia and 26.30 in Delaware) Two separate runners with Garmin had 26.47 and 26.42 respectively.
Race Photographs
C Big races have expensive photographs! That's just the way it is. I used to believe that paying $25 for ONE digital photograph was outrageous, but I have realized that these are once in a lifetime opportunities and I need to memorialize them somehow. They claim that, even when they bring the prices down, people don't pay for the pics, so they charge a lot to cover for all the 'lost' pics that people won't buy. They also argue that camera equipment is pricey, they have to hire numerous cameramen/women and sift through the pics (using software of course) to match the pics to you. The choice is yours. I have made the painful decision to add $25 to my race budget as I feel that the finish line photo is very important to me. If you have a person positioned at the finish line, then maybe you don't need the official finish line photo.
C Marathonphoto was the company that was taking the pictures. I saw an active lady taking pictures at the start line for anyone interested. I may be wrong (I ran the full marathon) but I saw none of the photographers on the way. They had photographers strategically lined up at the finish line and all my photos seemed to be from the finish line. They had one photographer who was positioned perfectly and he/she captured the finish line banner and the finish time. That picture was perfect I have to admit! Maybe that's why the photographs were ready and released so quickly! (race day was on the 16th, Saturday and the photos were ready on Tuesday 19th, 3 days after. The Philadelphia and Wilmington, DE marathon photos took a week before they were ready) I know photography is hard business but they should have at least had a photographer at the scenic 24-25 mile marker close to the water at Riverfront park where the bridge I-526 was in the foreground. A waterfront photo would have looked marvelous! They also needed photographers when runners ran through the streets of Charleston. If you compare photographs of the Philadelphia and Wilmington, DE marathon (the 2 I have run so far) you do see that there were various photographers at various points in the course. Bunching up a few photographers at the finish line and taking many similar photos just means that there are less desirable photos to buy, which means less sales.
I would run it again!
By: Lisa G.
Posted: January 23, 2016
Flat, fast, boring
This was #13 for me...
Pros:
1. Wicked flat. I think there was one teeny bridge. Great race to shoot for a PR.
2. Packet pick up was easy but there was a band playing the the gym which made it nearly impossible to hear, expo was very small.
3. Plenty of water, Gatorade and support at each water stop.
4. Cool little finish line festival.
5. Shrimp and grits and beer at the finish.
6. The people of Charleston were so kind and welcoming.
Cons
1. The course is a maze of dull and uninteresting out and backs with no spectators to be seen or heard. The course is a dreadful bore for such an amazing little city.
2. Long sleeve shirt is cheap and ill fitting.
3. Food on course was a great idea but poorly placed.
4. Finish was disorganized, was challenging to find water.
Tips
There is nothing but the start near the host hotel.
Don't stay there, stay downtown, use Uber to get around.
The airport is small and it's off season, book early if you plan to fly since there are not a lot of flights in and out.
If you plan to be downtown for dinner make reservations early.
Overall the race is well organized with easy to manage logistics. It's just a shame that it doesn't provide more opportunities to see the true southern charm of the city.
By: Mark L.
Posted: February 20, 2015
Disappointed
This was my 2nd time running this Marathon. The weather was ideal, the packet pickup was a breeze and the volunteers were awesome. But there was some logistic issues with the aid stations after mile 16. I did not find another one until mile 22, by that time it was too late, I was running on empty. At the finish there was only water and juice, where was the Gatorade? The finish also lacked edible options. Bananas, muffins and peanuts are not enough. The band at the finish was awesome. Baggage drop off and pickup were flawless. Charleston needs to do a better job at showcasing its city, instead of having marathoners do multiple out and backs.
By: Robert M.
Posted: January 28, 2015
Easy course, but not very scenic
The 2015 Charleston Marathon was my 30th martahon. As others have said, there was a problem with the distance. I didn't notice the marker for Mile 1, but the marker for Mile 2 appeared at 2.25 miles on my Garmin. Other runners were similarly long. My Garmin ended up registering 26.6 for the race. Some of that could be due to me taking poor tangents at times, but something was definitely off. I see some other comments that says they are correcting times. I've checked the results again, and my 'official' time has gone down by a couple minutes. I don't know how they figured out how much to shave off, but it's nice that they did that.
I agree with others that the first few miles through downtown Charleston were scenic. But I thought the rest of it was quite blah. There were a couple decent residential neighborhoods, but nothing spectacular. I guess I was expecting more.
The course takes a very windy path that doubles back and crosses over itself a bunch of times. But I didn't have any problems other than whatever caused the overlong distance. So I found the course to be well-marked and well-attended by volunteers.
As others have said, it was flat and the weather was great. And located at sea level, there was no altitude to worry about. This would be a great course to attempt a PR as long as you don't have to run an extra quarter or half mile.
Minor nitpicks: I finished in the middle of the pack, and was still only able to get one beer before they ran out. Also, I think this was the first point-to-point course I've run where I had to take a shuttle from the finish back to my rental car at the start line. Typically I've taken the shuttle to the start line and then run back to my car near the finish. It might not seem like a big deal, but it wasn't terribly pleasant to stand around waiting for a shuttle after running 26.6 miles, and then hobble on up with a busload of other sore and stinky runners for a 20 minute ride. At least the parking at the start was a breeze.
Charleston seems like a great town, and the people were all really friendly. A more scenic course would be nice, but I guess you gotta work with what you have available. Not a bad way to check South carolina off my list...
By: carrie m.
Posted: January 23, 2015
What a Nice Race!
I traveled in from Philly. Wasn't sure what to expect. Gald there were some options for race packet pick up. The starting line was organized. There weren't many spectators, but I don't run for them. :) The stations and amenities were AWESOME! So many volunteers, and they were quick to clean up cups. Suggest perhaps bananas at 19 or 20 as well instead of just mile 13ish. I picked one up and carried it with me for 9 miles. The course toward the end felt a little like running through and ant farm with all the turns. They were marked, but it was turn after turn after turn. The race director does a nice job with organization, communication and amenities. I loved the local kids signing and playing instruments throughout the course. The weather was perfect. Good choice for a January race. Yes, there was a hiccup with the length, but it was fixed and times adjusted within one week. Now that is service. I guess technically, we ran an Ultra. ha ha.
By: Megan L.
Posted: January 22, 2015
Course is a disservice to Charleston!
This was a very well run event. From the volunteers, to the expo, to the aid stations.
However, I am extremely disappointed with the course. I lived in Charleston for almost a decade and was excited to finally run a marathon in my old city. Outside of the first handful of miles downtown, the rest of the course is going down one street for endless miles, followed by what felt like endless out and backs. I felt like I was running a poorly planned training run. Where you grossly overestimate your mileage and end up running the last 7 miles as tiny out and backs through your neighborhood.
Charleston is SUCH a gorgeous city. This course barely touched it. It does the city an absolute disservice.
I would not recommend this race to anyone. Stick with Kiawah if you need a fast SC marathon.
By: David Weiss
Posted: January 20, 2015
Great city, excellent race
Overall a beautiful city to visit! An excellent race overall!
The good-
-Fast, flat course
-Easy packet pickup-and packet pickup morning of the race available!...for an out of towner like me traveling into town the night before, its essential
-very enthusiastic volunteers at water stops, enthusiastic crowd support
-scenic course at times
-excellent food at the finish, shrimp and grits excellent
-great city to visit for a weekend when doing a race
-its impossible to predict, but I came from freezing, snowy Cleveland to impeccible race conditions; low 40s at start, mid-upper 50s at finish, not windy, not a cloud in the sky
-Eating some brunch at the Hominy Grill after the racewhat a restaraunt!
-nice medal
-nice job w posting results quickly, w emailed split times too
-showers available at finish
-quick shuttles back to the start to our cars
The bad-
-they ran out of beer at festival where I was
-awesome that showers were available, but they were available at finish line, but all my stuff was in my car at the start-if it would be possible to have showers at the high school near the start line, that would be fantastic!
The ugly-
The word that the lead car went the wrong way and caused all 1/2 and full marathoners to go an extra .2 or .3 miles....I do appreciate that the race organizers appear to be working dilligently to fix the problem (adjusting times, etc)...I'm not an elite runner or on the borderline of qualifying for Boston, so its not too big a deal for me, but for others who are, I could see why they would be upset.
Overall, an excellent race and city in which to mark South Carolina off of anyone's race list
By: Justin V.
Posted: January 19, 2015
Solid Overall Race, A Few Organizational Hiccups
Overall, a good race that I'd recommend for those who want to experience Charleston. Really enjoyed running along the water, Battery Park, and King Street during the first 10K. The course is flat and can be fast. Surprising that the winning times were so slow, probably due to lack of prize money? But if you're looking for a BQ, this course is doable. 2015 had great weather, low 50s and sun, no wind. Lots of turns and a few rough asphalt patches, but course profile is inviting. I'm sure everybody will talk about the long course... the RD has already acknowledged and will adjust times for BQ purposes. Very cool of them. But, the lead pace car's error only added about 0.2 to the route. Mapping their original course on Google leads to about 26.6 without that error. I think the course is long regardless of 2015's hiccup. I realize all courses are a supposed to be a little long, but this one was extra.
One suggestion to race organizers... there are a few points where runners coming from different directions cross each other's paths (miles 9.7 and 14.3; much of the 18th/23rd miles). The race is small so it's not a huge deal, but something to consider in terms of creating clearly marked lanes to guide the flow of runner traffic. Last suggestion: Put the middle timing split at 13.1 instead of 11.9 if logistics allow.
Volunteers were exceptional, and lots of them. Aid stations were well stocked, GUs and bananas at several. Expo was pleasant, easy to pick everything up. Gear check was seamless. Cool medal and white long-sleeve tech shirt. Shrimp & grits = marvelous post-race food.
First 6 miles very scenic. The middle stretch gets industrial, but you get to run through some cool neighborhoods past mile 17.
Overall, I'd recommend the race. Super high-strung racers who need everything perfect will find some flaws, but chill runners will enjoy the experience. And Chucktown is amazing.
By: Annette T.
Posted: January 18, 2015
Great post-race party
Great post-race party, even hard cider and champagne for us Celiacs! Shrimp/grits, vendor, band (although it stopped playing two hours before the posted end time for the post-race). Course was beuaitful in spots, blah in others, but the highlight of the course is downtown Charleston to tour/visit as part of marathon weekend. Need more porta-potties, especially when the half marathoners are still with the marathoners. Was VERY crowded for the first 2 1/2 mile or so; definitely recommend starting the Half a half hour later. Ran out of water at the mile 14 aid station! Otherwise, plenty of aid station and great volunteers. I stayed at an airbnb at 22 Bennett St., only a mile from the start and walking distance to downtown Charleston, plus 2 bikes.
By: Tom G.
Posted: February 01, 2014
Awesome City, worth visiting for a marathon.
The people of Charleston made the experience. The expo was better than I expected and participation along the course was great. The only drawback I have is that the marathoners came back together with the slow half marathoners for a mile or so mid marathon and had to weave in and out of a slow crowd.
By: Ronald B.
Posted: January 28, 2014
Small race with potential
I ran Charleston this year and was also struggling with the strong winds and the unexpected cold. The organization of the race was allright in my opinion - we cannot blame them for the weather nor for the fact that most people would prefer to stay indoors with this kind of weather rather than stand outside to support a group of runners - I liked the medal, the food and drinks at the finish line and the bus service from the finish line back to the starting area. I also liked the trophy I received for being second in the male masters category. The loss of you chip (falling from your bib as some commenters wrote about) in my opinion can be easily avoided by folding the lower part of the bib up and putting some pins through that part, or simply by wearing your bib a bit higher on your shirt so that the bib and the chip inside it will not move about 40.000 times together with your hips and thighs.
There is some room for improvement I think. First of all, none of the Charlestonians I met in the days before the race knew anything about a marathon being organized on Saturday January 18th. That might be one mayor reason why we did not see a lot of audience. I think a bit more promotional activity might be done. Second, I would change the direction of the course. During the last miles one is exhausted and needs a lot more diversion than in the beginning of the race, when a runner is still feeling strong and concentrated. I would have liked to run the last few miles through historic downtown, pass King Street and the Battery and - potentially - more audience than in the last part of the race as it is now. One other thing that could be changed is the fact that the marathon after the split at the 9 mile point joins with the half marathon course again at the 14 mile point. As a result of this you find yourself running together with half marathoners who are about 5 miles behind you and running at a slower pace. This logically caused a bit of congestion, though I found all runners very cooperative in letting us marathoners pass. Should the race grow bigger however I foresee problems with this reunion of faster marathon runners and slower half marathon runners.
Thumbs up however for a potentially very attractive race that was only in it's 4th year. Charleston was really worth the visit.
By: Terry F.
Posted: January 24, 2014
Love Charleston, but not so much the course
Overall the event was well managed, but the course got a little confusing after mile 20. The turns, cross traffic, broken payment, and gravel sections were not welcome so late in the race. I also got one staffer tell me I was at mile 11 of Half and 16 of Full when I was at mile 24. The weather was cold and windy, which made it tough for 5 miles after mile 16. Based on course alone, I probably will look else where for my next marathon.
Nevertheless, you have to love Charleston. I always say I need to spend more time there when I leave it.
By: Rob W.
Posted: January 24, 2014
Nice course, but needs logistics help
I liked the course. The start in Charleston is nice, and through most of the race, there are plenty of things to look at. Yeah, part is a bit industrial, but I actually liked that part as well as the views of water and landmarks.
That said, I'd prefer a loop that starts and ends in Charleston for the simple reason that parking is plentiful in Charleston and hard to come by in North Charleston (where the current race finishes). At the end of a marathon, the last thing I want to do is board a shuttle back to the start! I'd much rather get in my car and head straight to my hotel for a shower and nap!
Although I liked the course, and the shrimp and grits were an awesome post-race snack, this race is still plagued by logistical and organizational problems. Signs (or even better, volunteers who were easily recognizable) at the expo directing you to the proper tables, signs/volunteers at the start directing you to the bag check, and signs directing you along the course would be major improvements. There were signs at the marathon/half split, but there were parts near the end (in the park) where I wasn't sure I was on the right path.
Finally, I was surprised by the lack of welcome Charleston extended for us runners. Folks at the hotel didn't even know about it. Maybe Charleston's just not a running town!
By: Dominique L.
Posted: January 23, 2014
Unforgettable!
A lot was already said about the cold and the wind, I guess - if you guys want to be warm and cozy, stay home :)
More seriously, this race keeps getting better: very scenic course in old Charleston along the battery and King St, then along or over the water, no more running among industrial buildings in North Charleston, law enforcement presence everywhere which makes sense for this most touristic destination, a feast at the finish, no more crowded start, parking was well managed, volunteers were super friendly, aid stations well stocked with drinks and food / gels.
Cons? I didn't experience the trouble others encountered with false routes, so I would say none. The asphalt could be better, railroad tracks crossing are a pain - but that is being very nitpicky. I didn't pay attention to the missing mile markers, my watch tells me where I am (or I ask at the aid station).
Overall, you can tell that the race director listens to runners' comments and improves each year. We ran Charleston for the 4th time - 60 marathons total, and thought it was unforgettable and all worth the money. We definitely will be back next year despite the winter!
By: Kevin S.
Posted: January 22, 2014
Just OK
Course is flat and potentially fast if not battling strong winds as happened this year. Course is pretty non-descript after the initial few miles along the waterfront and historic area (King Street). Ends in North Charleston at the High School. Spectators were pretty sparse over much of the course. I should have expected that after talking to many locals and workers in the historic area and no one even knew a marathon was occurring the next day! A marathon course including East Bay Street and Meeting Street in addition to King Street would highlight the historic aspect of the city much better than the current course. Plenty of gel available on the course. Nice enough shirt and medal. Shrimp and grits at the finish was very tasty, unlike the watered down Bud Light beer. For this race to rise above mediocre, the community needs to get on board and support it!
By: Matthew M.
Posted: January 21, 2014
Poor organization
I was told that Charleston was fast course and a great race. The former might have been true on a different day without the 20 MPH headwinds, but the race organization was anything from great.
This would have been my 5th marathon, but I didn't bother to finish the race after a volunteer directed the runner in front of me, me, and the runner behind me the wrong direction shortly after the 20-mile mark. I was running in the Top 10 at the time and my wife noted that several runners that were behind me at 18 miles came by her again (just after 21 miles) before she saw me and the other two runners enter the same area going the wrong direction. We ended up running nearly a mile extra before we rejoined the course.
I understand that mistakes happen and that volunteers cannot be relied on at all times, but this was not the first time that the course route was not clearly marked. My wife even saw a volunteer stick her sign into a trashcan because she didn't feel like standing in the cold anymore. The trashcan blew over because of the 20 mph winds leaving nothing to direct runners when they reached that particular turn.
I also recall several volunteers and police officers acting oddly as the runner ahead of me and I passed them going the wrong direction. I realized after the race that these individuals all knew we were going the wrong way and were quick to try and remedy the situation. None of them bothered to say anything to the few of us that were already going the wrong way, though.
On a perfect weather day, Charleston could be a great race to run a fast time... but only if you know the area and have memorized the course map.
By: Taulsa C.
Posted: January 21, 2014
Great city not a great marathon
If you are looking for an excuse to go to Charleston this is a good reason the coarse is flat and even with a head wind for over 16 miles I still PR. But until the city and community embrace this run it will be what it is a not very well organized event with some odd decisions on the coarse ( running on a dock only to turn around on a dime I could see congestion when the mass group go through, having the marathon come back in with the 1/2 at mile 14 results in congestion for the faster runners ,the last 2 miles going through a winding park with areas of sand crushed shell and zig zag turns, and then the under staffed aid stations ) the expo was over congested with little to offer runners and so congested that you could not get in to some vendors . All in all Charleston is a great city and fun to visit but do not have your hopes high in regards to the run the coarse runs through King Street and the rest is through prominently industrial parks
By: charles w.
Posted: January 20, 2014
Very nice small city marathon
Organization: There were regular facebook posts by the organizers. The expo was in a high school but there were no signs inside during you to the gymnasium area. There was a decent number of vendors. Getting to the parking before the race was difficult and all 3 large parking lots should have been opened up for use.
Course: The course was pretty much pancake flat except for one bridge crossing. I would have liked to have the course pass thru the Citadel but it would probably have been too difficult to fit in the half-marathon distance with the detour.
Post-race: The shrimp and grits were very good. The only beer options were bud light and Michelob ultra. The buses ran regularly. There was also water, soda, muffins and bananas available.
Major problem: Reviews for 2013 mentioned the issue with the timing chips falling off. The problem did not go away. A fellow runner told me about my bib barely hanging to my bib and I ended up carrying the bib for 12 miles. The organizers need to fix the problem for 2015.
By: Diana R.
Posted: January 20, 2014
Good marathon for South Carolina.
Pros:
1) Visiting Charleston as part of a marathon is good.
2) Good, friendly volunteers.
3) Before and after at high school (different high schools) so can wait indoors before and take shower after.
4) Plenty of parking at start.
5) Efficient transportation from finish back to start.
6) Shrimp and grits at the finish...delicious.
7) Easy packet pickup at the race start high school.
8) Course had some very pretty spots.
9) Traffic control and police officers were awesome.
Cons:
1) White shirt and medal were not as nice as in previous years.
2) Aid stations for the first 9 miles needed more tables. Volunteers frantically tried filling cups since they only had two tables to work with.
3) Would have liked potato chips and chocolate milk at finish.
I recommend the race, particularly if you would like to see Charleston.
By: Richard B.
Posted: January 20, 2014
Great Marathon
Parking was free at the start and there were plenty of spaces. The school at the start made for a large indoor waiting area which nice with it being 35 degrees at the start.The course was beautiful for the first 5 miles and then got boring, but it didn't really bother me. No ones fault, but the wind was brutal. Every runner I spoke with on the course and after commented on how tough it was to run through that wind. It added an area of difficulty on an otherwise easy course. Water stations were great though a bit congested. I was only able to find the hammer gels one time due to there being too much going on at the station (they were available at three stations). They had bananas and pretzels at mutiple stops which I really appreciated. The finish was outstanding. The last .4 miles went through a nice little part of town with little shops. Then you made a final turn for a 200 yard finish. Had post race shrimp and grits along with some other snacks. Plenty of food available even around the 4 hour mark. The shuttle was waiting to take us back to our car. And if we had missed that one, another shuttle was waiting behind it.
The medal is my new favorite of the 7 I have received. The shirt is a nice long sleeve that I will wear. The bib was very nice. It had my name and where I was from, which was great when fans encouraged me by name.
A great way to race South Carolina. I recommend this race.
By: JM B.
Posted: January 19, 2014
Just a few issues
This was my first full marathon (after 4 halfs). The first 4-5 miles are as beautiful as it gets. There is no better place to run than downtown Charleston. After it moves from downtown to N Chas it's not as pretty but it was not bad. The worst part for me was the run on the boat dock at at the turnaround on Tide Water Rd. I didn't mind at all the run out and back but running on the boat dock was my least favorite part of the run. N Chas is doing a lot to revitalize itself and miles 16-24 were a good look. The run along the Cooper R. in mile 25 was fantastic. I didn't stick around long so I can't speak to the post race festivities, except to say that my daughter and her boyfriend loved the shrimp & grits. Charleston was a great first experience in a full marathon. Didn't care for the shirt design and could've used a few more port-a-potties in the first part of the race when the half and full runners were together. Great job Charleston!
By: Grzegorz P.
Posted: March 11, 2013
Small marathon with big potential.
My take:
The fantastic:
The finish line was located by North Charleston High School. The lockers and showers were available for the runners. I was damaged finishing the marathon, but after the hot shower I felt almost completely regenerated. The feeling was incredible, it happened to me first time in my 35 years of running.
The good:
Plenty of parking on the start and finish. Indoor waiting during crispy morning (appreciated by those who run NYCM ;o)
This marathon is still not discovered by running community. I dont think it will be for long. Statistically it has a better chance for good weather than the one running a week latter down south. Calendar wise it is good backup marathon in case you pull out of a late fall marathon. It is very flat and perfect for PR or BQ. This year the weather was fantastic. I actually like the course. First few miles were spectacular. Latter the big out and back felt really long but I was lucky to strike a chat with fellow runner. The part in North Charleston was visually pleasing. As a small marathon it did not have as many spectators as the giant ones. At the same time your family can cheer you in several points on the course.
The bad:
As young marathon it has several small problems. The organizers should not use plastic caps for drinking. Fast runners tend to make sort of funnel from a cup to avoid splashing liquid when drinking. If you try to do that with plastic cup it will brake and the liquid finish outside your body. For future please use paper cups!
As long as we are at hydration stations I would like that the great kids helping us have aprons to avoid getting wet. (Sorry guys for the splashing)
The shirt looks nicer than on the photo, but I still think simple logo (like palm tree and crescent) would be better choice.
Finally we got to the ugly:
Timing chips were very flimsy attached to the bib. On Facebook you can read post by a runner who pick up several chips on the course and brought them to the finish line. Could you imagine preparing for marathon for few months and then do not have a proof of finishing because of negligence of timing company?
The problems did not finish with chips. If you go to results page you can find that the first place in general classification belongs to the forth guy in the marathon. General classification does not include top finishers, and winners in master and grand master category. Those runners can not be found using website search function. As well it looks like the winners did not cross the finish line. As a side note the result website has some bizarre statistics like average finish time for all three distances together (marathon, half and 5k) (female won with men in this category ;o). They also have All Category where they put runners from all distances in nice time order (5k runners definitely won with the marathoners!). At the same time they were not able to do simple Age Grading.
I contacted Mid-Atlantic Timing about those problems but they were completely dismissive.
I got really tired of their response and I created marathon result spreadsheet myself. You can download it here: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0By1WFBzjW02XeUxpQ3lvNmx4Q1U/edit?usp=sharing
It is difficult to blame marathon organizers for this scandal, their only fault was choosing bad timing company. Being older guy I had opportunity to run lot of races. From top of my head I really like the company servicing Philly marathon. (text messages, personalized bib with your name on it, split times at 5k, 10k, half, 30k). I'm sure runners would pay few extra dollars to be timed in a logical honest way.
In conclusion, I think Charleston Marathon has a great potential. They have to address some small imperfections, and definitely get rid of those clowns from Mid-Atlantic Timing.
By: Bill B.
Posted: January 29, 2013
I liked it
I don't understand why others are complaining. I thought it was a very solid race that was well organized. I like packet pick-up on race morning, which was great for us out of towners. The staging area was indoors, with free and easy parking. The course was great for the first 5 miles and the last two with some OK stretches in between. Even when it wasn't pretty, it was flat and I actually liked the out and backs. Water stations were well run and many had food. The course was well marked and splits were called throughout- very unusual for a smaller run. Nice atmosphere post race and the weather couldn't be better. Great shirt and medal. I have run some bad races, and this was not one. Well done and a great time of year to visit S Carolina.
By: Michael M.
Posted: January 28, 2013
Much Improved over Previous Races
I'll skip addressing many issues already mentioned regarding start, finish, food, porta potties, etc. Bottomline, Charleston is one of the most beautiful cities in America and as long as the route goes through industrial areas, federal law enforcement facilities, etc., the race will never be successful. Though I can imagine downtown businesses in and around King street would not appreciate roads closed for 6 1/2 hours - would restrict customers. Keep working on the other areas and create a beautiful route and it would be a fantastic race! Keep it up Charleston, it always takes time for new races to work out all the kinks. My son and I will be back next year.
By: Michael K.
Posted: January 25, 2013
Overall - well run
I ran the half marathon so my comments need to be taken with a grain of salt. The course was adequate, but not great. Given the way Charleston is laid out, not sure how you would have a course that is scenic without running over a bridge (not sure if that is logistically possible). I thought the course was well marked other than in the park. There were a few areas where I had to really focus on where to go. The event was run well. Food after was more than sufficient and shrimp & grits were awesome. My two complaints are 1) I was unsure if there was a bag drop. Website had 'clothing drop' listed so a little unclear. 2) the layout of the aid stations. Would have preferred water first than gatorade - just a personal preference of what I am used too. Overall, a good race that seems to have taken running comments/complaints into account and an event that I can see improving in the future.
By: John Eng
Posted: January 24, 2013
Great City! Race is Much Improved!
After reading the 2012 comments, I was a bit apprehensive to sign up for the marathon. A good sign of the quality of the event is that mistakes and feedback from runners are listened to and improvements and fixes are implemented in the future. I am happy to say that the main issues and problems that plagued the race in previous years were greatly improved or fixed.
First, and most importantly, the aid/hydration stations were fantastic. I was very worried about this situation as this was the main complaint last year. Never had any issues and never had to wait for hydration. Secondly, the expo was moved indoors to a high school so no worries about dust, cold, etc. Lastly, there was plenty of food and drink at the finish. The Shrimp & Grits were fantastic. Corn dogs, french fries, boiled peanuts, beer, gatorade and water were also available. In my 24 marathons, the post race experience in Charleston SC ranks in the top 5.
Very flat course. The first 6 miles is absolutely gorgeous running by the lake and then up beautiful King Street. The rest of the course is much more industrial but that doesn't bother me. As for previous comments about the start/finish or any other parts of the course being in 'bad' or 'dangerous' areas, I submit that those who say that either never traveled very much or live in a bubble. If any of those are 'bad' or 'dangerous' areas, they wouldn't survive in 95% of this country.
The 2 things that the race could improve upon is having more course marshals (I took the wrong turn right before Mile 22 and wound up running an additional 2 miles but it was probably my fault as I don't know anyone else that did that) and to have the mile markers more visible.
The city of Charleston is a great place to visit and is one of the top 10 Food Cities in the U.S. The locals and volunteers were the epitome of Southern hospitality and I really enjoyed my stay there.
If you need music blaring every few yards and demand that thousands of strangers come root you on, then this race might not suit you. If you like to visit a charming city with great food, no hassles and no crowding (less than 900 marathon finishers)and a race that will grow and improve and cares about the runners, then you will love it.
By: Bill B.
Posted: January 24, 2013
Getting better
This was my 7th marathon. 4 road races, 3 trail races. The first few miles were great, but then we headed North out of town and the scenery dropped like a rock. The stretch where the marathon splits off at mile 10 was DESOLATE. I thought I was running into Area 51. The pier, while visually breaking the monotony, was tough to negotiate, and the course needed some tape or something along that section to help guide the runners. Not intuitive at all. And the last 8 miles were just awful.
I certainly won't win a marathon, but I was near the front. In the closing miles, corner marshals were focusing on incoming runners, not on those on their way to the finish. At many turns I had to yell out 'Which way?' when approaching. I did not miss any turns, but the closing miles of a marathon is not a good time to 'need to think'. Mixing the marathon and half together meant that the faster marathoners were mixed back in with the slower half-marathoners, many taking up the entire width of the course, which forced us to bob and weave through them in North Charleston. Was a little disappointed in the finish line location, with those sharp turns at the end to make up the distance.
Also, the postrace shrimp and grits were devoured by the time I got there at 11:30. So was all the 'good' beer; only Lite was left, blech. We did, however, find an outstanding outdoor bar/grill right on the race course (DIG in the Park) which was fantastic for dining and spectating. Awards ceremony was not well-publicized; I would've skipped it but my friends said I should go check my time (had to hunt down the tent, needed a bigger sign), and found out I was eligible for AG awards. Couldn't pick up award early, had to wait for marathon awards at '1-ish', which was about 1:15.
My friends all enjoyed the half-marathon, but would have liked gels available at the 6 mile mark. I took my own gels with me, as well as a handheld water bottle, and took water at every aid station, so I cannot comment on the presence or absence of nutrition.
By: Bill B.
Posted: January 24, 2013
Well Organized
Pleasant, well organized race on a flat course. The race offered race AM packet pick up- a definite plus for out-of-towners,free and easy parking at both the start and finish, good aid stations with lots of food, and the nicest shirt and medal that I've recieved in 29 marathons. The course was beautiful for the first 4 miles, but not much to look at after that, though flat as can be. The course was well marked with splits called each mile-unusual for a smaller race. Perfect weather and friendly people as well. I think the organizers got the big stuff right. A good way to race S Carolina
By: Mike B.
Posted: January 24, 2013
Good small marathon!
I spent a long weekend in Charleston and ran the marathon on the first day. I am aspiring to run a marathon in all 50 states, and this was #11. Overall I enjoyed the experience. The expo was about as expected for a small marathon - small but adequate. The long-sleeved shirt was nice. Free parking was easy close to the start. Start was on time to the second. The first 5 miles were scenic, through old Charleston and up King St. Next part was not scenic, past warehouses and railroad tracks. Thankfully the temperature was cool, as there was little shade. There was a long out and back section to a short run on a pier - which was cool. One good thing I have never seen at a race - at every mile marker, there was an automated speaker system blurting out the elapsed time of the race. This was good because I left my watch in my motel room. It also negated the need for periodic digital clocks or people yelling times. The hydration stations were adequate. The post race food was not great. They had shrimp/grits which was okay, but little else. They did have free beer though :) The shuttle back to the start was quick and efficient.
By: Noah Moore
Posted: January 24, 2013
Charleston Marathon - a recap from a (proud) local
For the past two years I have run the Charleston Marathon (mostly because I wanted to support a local race) and both years I wrote reviews that were, well, not so great.
Each year I kept thinking about what people from out of town must be thinking as they ran the race and, well, I was really embarrassed...
This year was NOT the same.
This year I knew that those people were thinking the same thing as me.
This was a great race!
A few things before I get to the start.
This was my ninth marathon and my second time pacing a race (last year I paced the half marathon). This year my running partner CSR and I were the pace leaders for the five hour marathon group.
My disclaimer about the title: I have lived in Charleston for over eighteen years so I now consider myself a local, but not a Charlestonian (believe me, there is a difference and a Charlestonian will let you know that difference in a very polite southern way).
The route this year was much improved.
Props go out to Howie Schomer for all his work. He spent countless hours mapping routes that would work and, in my opinion, hit a home run with this one!
The first few miles of the race are absolutely beautiful. Runners go down Lockwood Blvd and then around the Charleston Battery.
The rest of my review is on my web site: http://www.mooreonrunning.com/2013/01/charleston-marathon-recap-from-proud.html
By: Teresa M.
Posted: January 22, 2013
The out and back portions were terrible.
I am glad to know that I'm not the only one that didn't like the course, especially the out and back portions going through non-scenic, industrial areas. Very mentally challenging. Port-a-potties along the course were very few and the course could have been marked better. I won't be doing this marathon again.
By: Zina C.
Posted: January 21, 2013
Start and Finish line are in bad areas!
I am running the 50 states and I picked Charleston for my marathon in South Carolina. I was so disappointed. If you are from out of town I recommend renting a car. The start and the finish lines are both in bad neighborhoods. There is no way to get to the start from any of the recommended hotels. The Taxi services know that so they charge you double the amount of money. There is a shuttle from the finish to the start but what good is that if you do not have a car. The course is just ok. I agree with the other reviews, it was confusing. The first few miles is the best part. I was very disappointed but I would like to give them a chance to work out all the kinks. It is their 3rd time and Charleston is a beautiful place to visit.
By: Michele P.
Posted: January 21, 2013
Much Improved
This is my 4th year for this event, first year when it was only the half marathon and all three of the marathons. The locations for the start and finish are a big improvement. The course changes for this year are good, but it would still be better to have more of the race in downtown Charleston if possible. There was more drink/food along the course and at the finish. There was more room for the post-race celebration at the new location and the convenience of the high school facilities as well. Overall the changes seem to reflect some of the comments from runners over the past several years. Charleston/North Charleston is a great location for a marathon and I want this one to continue to grow.
By: Nick K.
Posted: January 20, 2013
Good marathon that could be great
This was a good marathon, but several things should be enhanced.
My wife ran the 5K, and when she finished there were a number of food and drink options. When I reached the finish line near the 3:30 mark the options were severely depleted. They were out of shrimp and grits when I finished and it took them a while to get more. The shrimp and grits was good, though the overall quantity and quality of post-race amenities was lacking. The shirt was a bit of a disappointment as well. It was a rectangular painting on the front which makes it a little awkward to wear. A fun graphic would be more ideal.
There were a lot of good things about the race. The course was fun, including the time spent running on the pier. Porta-potties were plentiful, and the medal was great! There was plenty of parking for both the marathon and 5K. The convention was decent for a smaller race. Aid stations were great. I really enjoyed the steel drum band and all of the other music on the course.
By: Maddie C.
Posted: June 15, 2012
Magical beginning; a sandwich saved me at the end
The first miles of this race are spectacular. The weather was crisp and clear and the light hit the homes so that their beauty stood out.
Okay, the out and back at the end wasn't as glorious, but friendly volunteers gave out sandwiches and coke; this was helpful if you weren't trying to PR.
Someone mentioned there was no bathroom at the start. Many people were using the bathroom of the local supermarket that sponsored the race.
A lovely local youth orchestra performed during the pasta dinnerthey were so good, I initially thought the music was being piped in by a radio.
The race needs to be clearly marked all the way through. I was injured during my training and so had to run slowly; at one point, I wasn't sure which way to go.
Overall, a great experience!
By: dominique l.
Posted: April 21, 2012
Incredible race, organization and spectators !
This is an incredible race, the organization is PHENOMENAL ! The safety for the runners is impressive, the supplies and volunteers extraordinary, and the course and the city of Charleston are gorgeous ! We will be back next year !
By: Justin S.
Posted: February 09, 2012
Meh
The last few miles are run through a desolate industrial area, and you have to turn around and run right back through the same area. Passing the finish line and doing that last out and back really took a lot out of me. The design of the course makes it hard to stay motivated those last few miles.
Water was not as frequent as advertised. Otherwise the aid stations were good.
Only the first few miles have really pleasant scenery.
Great shirt - one of my favorites now for winter runs! Nice and soft.
Unlikely I'll be back (flew down from NYC for it).
By: Bernadette K.
Posted: January 31, 2012
Needs support from the local businesses and city
To RC from Greenville who said there was no entertainment, the race I ran had plenty of school bands to listen too. The race was not perfect but not as horrific as some people are making it out to be. The water was an issue but not one that I encountered, I am not a fast runner so I don't know where it went wrong. Thank you to all the volunteers. The shuttles being late was bad but a runner has to take some responsibilty, get there early.
By: carl casterlin
Posted: January 30, 2012
gear bag returned 2 1/2 weeks later
I wrote on 1/17 that I never got my gear bag back. Well, today, 1/30 it was delivered by mail! Glad to see there was good followup. Late is better than never!
By: Cynthia M.
Posted: January 23, 2012
Great medals but disappointing course!
This was my dad's 9th marathon(he flew in from CA to run the race together) and my 8th so we have a few races to compare to Charleston. We live in a beautiful and interesting city but didnt get to see much of it! Usually the race is the easiest part of the training... as you dont have to carry water, there are bathrooms to use and people to cheer you on.....Well there were few bathrooms and running out of cups at 3 water stations is inexcusable!!!!! If it wasn't for my amazing friends who cheered my dad and I on,this race would have been even more challenging. We started out with a pace team but had to stop running with the very small group as the leader was running faster then the indictated pace.
The end of the race was disapponiting seeing all the folks ahead of you! Also both of our watches were off by at least .5 miles...was there an issue with the distance?
By: Jule M.
Posted: January 23, 2012
Needs a little work
The end of the marathon course needs to be redone- the out and back for miles 21-26 needed to be a little more exciting to help finish the end of the race. Also- they need more bathrooms! There were not enough porta johns at the beginning of the race and were almost nonexistent during the race. The first one was at mile 5, and there was only 1!
By: Mark L.
Posted: January 22, 2012
POOR PLANNING
I have run 27 marathons and this was the first without water or gatorade at the finish, and I finished in the top 50! The headwind on the very uninteresting course was brutal. The boring out and back between miles 20-25 were discouraging. I had looked forward to spending an extra day or two in Charleston, but left the next morning, the race left a bad after taste. The tent needs to go! How about a real expo and finish line location? I will not be back, there are better races closer to home.
By: Dan B.
Posted: January 21, 2012
Not bad, but room to improve.
The course isn't much on scenery particularly except for the first few miles, but I knew that going in. It's a complex course with lots of turns, but it seemed adequately marked. There was a big police presence so there was no problem with cars on the course. The last five miles- just when folks are hitting the wall are pretty desolate until you are right at the finish, which doesn't help, I have two real complaints with the run. The water stops were frequent, but the cups were too small. Even worse, when I finished there was no water or Gatorade at the finish. This is nearly unpardonable for any race, especially a marathon. Changing a course is difficult to do, but fortunately, actually having water and gatorade at the end should be easy to do for next year.
By: Amber S.
Posted: January 21, 2012
Big Improvements Needed
This race needs some improvement, if they expect to continue drawing a crowd. The positives I can speak of (compared to some others) were the shuttle service to the race start and the porta potty situation. I had no issues with either of these.
I agree about the expo... it was dusty and dark and easily could have been set up on pavement instead of in a dirt lot.
As for the course... like most race courses, it had nice and ugly parts. The most disheartening portion was the last 6 miles. Knowing how close the finish line area was, the full route turned into a wasteland of nothingness, following a line of cones out for 3 miles, knowing you had to turn and come back 3 miles. It was terrible. In what normally are the hardest miles of a marathon, this is where you really need something nice to look at, or at the very least NOT a down and back route.
The biggest issue of the day was lack of fluids. With aid stations approx every 2 miles, I went past three stops in a row where there were no cups. People were picking up used cups off the ground, or in some cases, drinking straight from the pitchers used to serve runners. NOT GOOD! So for 6 miles, I had no fluids. This was before the half route split off. After the split, there were no issues with this. However, once I finished, there were no fluids there either, or space blankets. It was a cold, very windy 40 degree day. This would have been nice after a cold run.
I love the city of Charleston and would love to return. But without some changes, I don't think I'd run this race again.
By: Michele P.
Posted: January 21, 2012
Poor Organization/Poor Post-Race Accommodations
The race organization and race staff assistance was extremely poor. There was no water at the finish which is inexcusable. There were no bottles of water and I all I saw was the green tea. The expo/finish tent was dirty/dusty which covered everything including the food. There was not sufficient porta johns and there was no toilet paper at all in any of them after the finish. I needed assistance from race staff regarding some confusion with my registration and the staff was rude and never addressed my concern. I am from this area (two hours away) and have brought my family for this event starting with the half marathon two years ago and both last year and this year's marathon. The continued lack of organization is very disappointing. This was my 13th marathon and I have enjoyed some very nice both big and small marathons, but this is not one of them.
By: Amy C.
Posted: January 21, 2012
Enjoyable race, fast course, lacks port o johns!
Overall I enjoyed this race very much. A chilly start but after mile 8 the weather was nice and sunny with a slight breeze. The course was nice and flat, the scenery was southern (and I have a hard time dissing a race that's nice and flat). The spectators were enthusiastic, at some points few & far between but for crying out loud it is 26.2 miles! Honestly my one and only complaint is not enough port o pottys. I didn't want to miss the gun so I skipped out of the line after waiting 10 minutes anyway. There was one potty every 2 or 3 miles, and for the first 8 (I'm guessing also because you're running with all of the 13.1 mile people as well) there were HUGE lines. Finally stopped at mile 8 because I couldn't wait any longer, and still stood for at least 5 minutes in line. I enjoyed the post race boiled peanuts, beer & grits, the medal and shirt are nice as well. Overall well done!
By: Jonathan Hanbury
Posted: January 20, 2012
Flat and fast
This was my 19th state and I enjoyed it. This was a
flat and scenic course with a great start and fun finish.
If you want a lot of port of potties and huge crowds along the way this is not a course for you. But if you want a well organized race on a fast flat course with a lot of southern hospitality - I would recommend this race. I loved the area, my hotel near the airport and how convenient everything was.
By: Ross Brennan
Posted: January 20, 2012
Friendly smaller marathon through diverse area
I've done about 40 marathons as a mid- to back-of-the-pack racer and feel compelled to offer a more positive view of the race.
Most comments focus on the race course. Yes, about half is pretty gritty. That shouldn't surprise anyone who's done any research before the race. The course runs through about 2 miles of downtown, followed by 2 miles of working-class neighborhoods, a long straight slog through low-slung industrial areas, some pretty neighborhoods and parks in N. Charleston, then the bleak transitional area around the navy yard.
I actually found the grimier parts more interesting than the boring stretches lots of other marathons offer through office parks and suburbs. I gather the organizers needed to combine the draw of historic Charleston with the logistical ease of the N.C. navy yard area. Maybe the race could be renamed or re-marketed to more accurately reflect the N.C. aspects of the race and give credit to the obvious effort made by N.C. Other observations:
-Packet pickup was simple. Good directions to the venue, easy parking, nice expo, good music, friendly folks.
-Race-day parking was easy. Lines for the buses got long toward the end of the pickup period since most of us waited til the last minute in order to avoid the chill at the starting line.
-There was a well-run bag drop at the start, much appreciated given the cold starting line conditions.
-Traffic control was outstanding; no vehicles anywhere on the course. Volunteers were cheerful (especially at mile 15.5: made me feel like a star!), water/Gatorade stations were spaced about every 2 miles. Local bands along the course. Nice personal touches: name printed on bib, so spectators cheered me by name; and I was welcomed by name at the finish line.
-Beautiful medal and t-shirt. Finish line included shrimp/grits, two free beers, more music in the warm expo tent.
To the extent other racers were deprived of liquids during or after the race, that's a serious concern that will need to be addressed next year. But I had a lot of fun and thought the marathon was a thoughtful, well-run event: especially for a small race in its second year.
By: Tricia A.
Posted: January 19, 2012
Would not run this race again
First, I want to say that we were aware of the course and knew that the majority of the race would be run in a less than scenic area and being chilly didn't expect many spectators. I'm glad that I was running with my husband, I may have felt a little uncomfortable had I been running by myself. The course is flat, with only 1 very short hill. Also, there are never enough port a potty's at any race I've ever ran. We began the race about 4 minutes after the start and our chip time did work. Luckily we were only running the half because the last 3 water stations were running out of water and cups. I know that there were a lot of people behind us. When we finished there was plenty of refreshments. However would have preferred water along the course. We did make the first shuttle bus back to the start, however it didn't leave until 10:45, many other people had been waiting in the cold for awhile. Also there was no signage posted for the shuttle pickup. Not a total bust, but the most important things - water and transportation back to the start were lacking.
By: raegan h.
Posted: January 19, 2012
Very disappointing
This was the first marathon I've ever run. I thought this race would be a great, flat course through a beautiful city. This was partly true. The course was very flat and the scenery during the first few miles was great. The last six miles being an out and back, along with the blight of the city in between, was
disheartening.
Major problems with this race include but are not limited to: inadequate supply of water, Gatorade, gels, bathrooms, and volunteer/crowd support. I couldn't find any water or Gatorade until after mile 10. This is unacceptable. The liability of leaving runners on a course without adequate fluids and volunteer guidance is a quick way to ensure your race will not flourish in the years to come. The race organizers and directors need to really address the water issue first and foremost. With so many runners on the course, and being so spread out throughout the city, volunteer support was critical and severely lacking considering the lack of available fluids and the distance of the race. I understand there were last minute people who registered for the run which depleted the supply of cups, medals, etc., but race organizers and directors have a responsibility to the runners to deliver what was promoted which were numerous water and Gatorade stops, gels, bathrooms, and volunteer support. If there was such a shortage in donated goods for this race, then the number of participants should have been limited or cut off before the actual race day. When I finished the marathon there was no water to be found. None.
This race was such a disappointment. Although the city was welcoming I will not run this race again until these major issues are addressed. I've run many half-marathons throughout the southeast, and was really looked forward to my first marathon being in a beautiful city on a flat course. Sadly, the race organization and support is a major deterrent in me coming back for another race in Charleston.
By: Randy C.
Posted: January 19, 2012
I can't imagine a worse course.
The expo was outside in a dusty (VERY DUSTY)and poorly lit tent. Everything at the expo was covered in dirt. There weren't enough port-a-johns at the start, and probably 300 people were still in line when the gun went off. First 5 miles of the course is the most beautiful, in one of the most beautiful cities in the world. The next 21 takes you through blight, railroads and abandoned industrial complexes. No entertainment, no crowds. The topper? Mile 21 begins an interminable out and back. Just a horrible, cruel way to end a marathon. I live in SC, and I want my state to do well, but I wouldn't recommend this race to ANYONE until the course is changed.
By: Eric G.
Posted: January 18, 2012
Not a bad race but needs a lot of improvement
I'll start by saying that I brought my family with me and we stayed in historic Charleston and had a nice weekend. The race itself was not very good though. It was a flat course and I ran a PR but it lacked many of the amenities I am used to. The start of the course was nice, but after the first few miles it became boring. It went through unappealing parts of town and had few spectators. There were very few porta-potties, no clocks at any of the mile markers, and no place to register your chip time until the end of the race. The course looped back on itself a lot and at times I got confused on which way to go. When I got to the finish there were no beverages left. I was told there was water and sports drinks in the tent but all they had was iced tea and beer (not what I was looking for at the end of a marathon). Overall I enjoyed Charleston, and I ran a good time that I am happy with, but I would not do this race again.
By: Julie O.
Posted: January 17, 2012
Ok race, needs some improvement
I had a great race, finally a BQ, first 1/2 is nice, second 1/2 of course not so much but I knew that running it again a second time (ran in 2011). I have one complaint really and I think it is a pretty big onewhen I finished the full there was NO WATER and NO GATORADE available to runners...really??? WowI did not get anything to drink for a couple hours (waiting on friends to finish and then had to be shuttled back downtown, where, I was finally able to buy my own water and gatorade). That is pretty unacceptableI am surprised to see that there hasn't been more complaints about the lack of fluids at the end of the race. Yes, there was shrimp and grits but I need gatorade at the end of a race.
By: carl casterlin
Posted: January 17, 2012
About what I'd expect from a newer race.
Last 6 miles kind of depressing knowing I had to turn around and run back the same way after 3 miles. Web site said there was bag drop off at water stations 2, 4 and 6 miles. Dropped off my well marked bag at station 2. No bag after 5 hours. Gave my phone # to info station at the finish, who said they would call. Ha! No call yet. Otherwise, the day was what I expected.
By: Gordy Y.
Posted: January 17, 2012
Lots of room for improvement!
I was extremely disappointed in this race (I ran the full), out of the 32 I have run this marathon ranks at or near the bottom. While the course itself could use some improvement the overall organization leaves much to be desired; I was even more disappointed when I reviewed the comments from the 2011 race to see the same concerns had not been addressed. At the start of the race there were 14 porta-johns REALLY??? I was one of the few hundred still waiting to use the john as the gun went off; so I actually crossed the start line nearly 5 minutes after the race start so I guess the chip didn't register: THANKS! Take a look at the results did you think all those people without a listed chip time didn't know how to put it on correctly? It was a good thing I took the time because I only noticed 2 porta-johns during the entire course. I will say that the after race party was really great! But, I do not plan to run this race again unless I hear that serious upgrades have been made. The city of Charleston has an incredible opportunity to showcase itself here; I sure hope they get behind it.
By: Johnny Priest
Posted: January 16, 2012
Great Event, Great City and Great Volunteers
Even though I have read some negatives reviews on the Marathon I would like to say that my wife and I had a great experience.
The issues I have read about can all contributed to the great growth over the number of runners in 2012 over 2011. It is a art to be able to plan and pull off an event of this size.
The number of buses required, the amount of water,cups and yes even the number of metal to order and have available are all based on the number of registered runners. I talked with one of the volunteers about the shortage of metals when I finished and was delighted with his answer.
'A surge of people registering over the last few days caused the shortage'
Well I say Hooray!! More money for the Arts!!
Gosh, I have to wait a few weeks to get my metal, but the Arts gets the extra money up front to fund their programs!! I call that a success where I come from!! CONGRATULATIONS!
I hope the growth and success continues into 2013 and gets so big you have to consider a cut off for the registration in order to fine tune your event.
We will be back in 2013 and many years after that!
To the City of Charleston and its Citizens, a heart felt thanks for opening your city and expressing your 'Wonderful Southern Hospitality' in such a wonderful way!!
To the Marathon Team organization, Thank you all for the hard work and dedication it took to pull this event off. To the Shirt designer! Excellent Job! Very cool shirt. I cant wait to receive my medal and hang it proudly on my wall and cherish the experience of the 2012 Charleston Marathon.
Looking forward to 2013!!
By: Jeff P.
Posted: January 16, 2012
Not the best marathon out there...
I'll echo the assessments that other runners have about this marathons's issues, but I do believe some of the comments are a bit harsh. Yes, the course isn't the most scenic I've run, but the vast majority of it was closed to traffic- which is a definite plus. Anyone believing that city traffic should be totally shut down so that runners may have a perfectly scenic course is quite naive... it's not as easy as everyone thinks. There could be some improvements in the course layout, but many marathons are run in sketchy neighborhoods or have ho-hum stretches. Shame on the buses not being on time, but waiting until after 7 for an 8 a.m. race to board one is just as much the runners responsibility. I do have a problem with water stops having different flavored Gatorade or not being uniform in how the water/Gatorade was distributed. Crowd support was nice at the finish (like usual) but non-existant elsewhere. The headwinds we encountered for 2/3 of the run were oppressive and probably didn't help anyone's impression of the run. I thought the classical music being played at the expo with musicians in tuxes standing/seated on bare dirt was quite bizarre, but the shrimp & grits at the finish were an awesome touch. This marathon might need some improvements, but it certainly isn't a worthless experience and Charleston folks are friendly hosts.
By: Tom P.
Posted: January 16, 2012
Poorly organized
Great race except for no water until mile 14, no gels as promised except for the first runners, no water only beer at finish, ran out of medals for 1/2 marathon finishers, no time mats during the race-only at start and finish, no space blankets at finish even though it was in the 40's and windy, etc... Won't run again until they prove to me they can organize a race.
By: Mary M.
Posted: January 16, 2012
great t-shirt & medal-downhill from there
I was disappointed in this marathon from start to finish. The hotel had no information even though it was one of the hotels recommended on the registration site. The shuttle to the start line was running late, so we got there well after the start. The course was ugly, there was literally no spectator support, and to top it all off, the runners who were late to the start due to bad shuttle service did not have a chip time. I would not recommend this race.
By: Suzanne M.
Posted: January 16, 2012
Would not enter another race with these organizers
I know this was only the second marathon but really?! Between the course running through a very sketchy area of town (accosted by winos!)railroad tracks, poor signage, water only every second mile, no oranges, running out of medals (!) then running out of water, closing down the course before runners were finishing,and then a discrepancy on the DISTANCE (clocked as 13.6, NOT 13.1) I would rate this as a very poorly run marathon and half marathon. A beautiful city we never saw! It's tough to organize a race but this was just awful...I don't even know what my real time was since the distance was wrong.
By: Carl J.
Posted: January 15, 2012
Still a few Start-up Struggles
Charleston is an interesting, historic and, in parts, beautiful city. The race whets your appetite, but certainly isn't filling. It probably qualifies as flat and fast - although spectators don't give you a boost in that regard. The downtown section is pretty and interesting - but it is followed by some very UNexciting miles - until a couple near the end go through a very pretty park and along the water before finishing in an industrial area. Race logistics were more of the same - some excellent pre-race food, good registration and shirts, but the course itself had serious logistical issues, e.g. multiple hydration stops had no cups when we got to them (and we were not at the end of the pack and these were not stops late in the race); you could either drink out of pitchers or scrounge a cup off the pavement. Similar issues with porta-potties. There weren't nearly enough at the start and only a lonely porta-pottie a few places along the route, with none until about 5 or 6 miles - typically with lines waiting to use them. These are not good indicators and need to be fixed if the race is to reach its potential. (Note: I ran the half and my experience refers to Half-marathons.)
By: Robin G.
Posted: January 14, 2012
Do not run this race!
If you need to run in SC run somewhere else. Point to point race requires you to take a bus. got in line at 7:15 and got to the start 6:00 min after 8:00 and NO ONE was there. They had started the race. Pretty bad when it's the races fault and they don't wait. We weren't the last bus either!!! Porta potties were at a minimum. I understand there is a budget but don't skimp on buses and port a johns. There was ONE every couple of miles. Course was awful!!! Could you have picked worse areas to run through??? Spectators were few and far between which really didn't matter to me, but the areas we ran through were obviously not interested in the race. This was my 45th marathon so I have lots to compare this to. Down at the bottom of my list. Really disappointed.
By: Marilyn S.
Posted: January 26, 2011
Kudos and congratluatons on a wonderful inugural!
Wow, what a GREAT race. I felt this was very well organized. Great weather, great course, and WONDERFUL volunteers and spectators. And what a beautiful city. This was my 10th marathon. I was very impressed with the water stations from start to finish - very well stocked with water/Gatorade/pretzels/Coke/bananas/etc. For slower runners to end the race and still have refreshments, WOW, that doesn't happen very often. The medal was great also. I will definitely recommend this race to others.
By: Carolyn Quarterman T.
Posted: January 25, 2011
With improvements could be a great race
This race has great potential if rerouted some to include more scenic areas, perhaps at the very least to put the last few miles and finish area in a scenic area. Having the last several miles in a desolate area with little fan support is really rough. Some issues will no doubt be avoided in the future, such as traffic jams at the parking garage area and a hard-to-locate bag check.
Pros: good pre-race communication via emails and Facebook page; nice medal and shirt; friendly volunteers; course was flat and free of traffic; weather was perfect for running.
Cons: less than a mile of riverfront scenery in this "Riverfront Festival" marathon while many miles were in industrial areas; last six miles were desolate with no scenery and little fan support; no bananas/oranges/Coke during last six miles, though it was advertised there would be (it seems they put it at the finish area instead).
By: Edi R.
Posted: January 24, 2011
Inaugural Race - Fabulous Job
I ran the half marathon. I am local so was familiar with where the course was going, but trying to get 13 (or 26) miles of beauty is difficult. (Disney goes by the water treatment plant - nice.) I have run 9 marathons and many halfs all over the world, and for a first-year event this one was very organized. The volunteers were enthusiastic and helpful. Every section of the course was well marked and managed. I parked at the finish and took the bus to the start and there were plenty of buses. You can't beat shrimp and grits and cold beer at the finish. For a first-year, hats off to the organizers and volunteers. Surprising number of vendors at the expo for a first-year race as well.
By: Stephanie F.
Posted: January 21, 2011
first-timer
This was my first half-marathon and I have no idea how much time or money goes into organizing these events, so my only disappointment was the very small number of porta-potties. The volunteers were fantastic and very upbeat, and the plethora of law enforcement made me feel very safe throughout the sketchy areas. Since this was my first half marathon, I was very happy to be awarded with a keepsake medal at the finish line. I will definitely be doing this race again next year, even if it's the same course.
By: jeff v.
Posted: January 21, 2011
Great shirt, hot food, cold beer, good medal!
Okay, my first thoughts as I went home were that the race sucked... ugly, boring. Then I uploaded my pictures... hmmm, I wondered. Why did the course seem boring? I had tons of great pictures! I love a course that shows you all of the city - the ugly underbelly as well as the fantastic sections. This race did that very well. We ran under moss-covered tree canopies, though downtown, by the water, by the mansions, through the boarded up district, through the old hill area, through new areas, and through old areas on the rise. Did I expect a prettier course? Heck yes! Did I expect a prettier town? Heck yes! I was somewhat disappointed by the entire trip, but I had a great time. My expectations may have gotten the better on me, but the venue was wonderful... well, I'd have preferred the expo to be downtown and the dinner to be downtown, but whatever.
The negatives: maybe the last section was a bit too straight for me, but the out-and-back nature of it was fun! I saw my friends that were faster and slower than me! The expo and dinner were at the finish, not the start... that made you need transportation, but if you had a rental car, you got your bib and then checked into your downtown hotel.
The positives: HOT food! Good, hot food! Cold beer (I don't drink it, but I saw people with like 9 cups stacked together, so it must have been unlimited). A great shirt (no advertising on the back!). A very good medal! A nice backpack swag bag (I have dozens, but not everyone does - I ran to the race from north of the airport and you can't tell, so it is well made). Once you get to downtown, you never need your car again! You can walk to dozens of places to eat. Nothing better than a race where you don't have to drive once you arrive! We got lots of communication via email about the race. An easy route to follow full of turns! I love lots of turns and hate long straightaways... a perfect course for me! We went through like six different types of neighborhoods... the art was fun on the Navy base and I do like out-and-back sections. There were hundreds of volunteers, and cute, decorated barricades. There was music! I have never seen the automated voice timers at the mile marks used instead of clocks... it seemed a great way to provide time for those one-in-a-thousand who don't have a working watch with them.
This was a good event. Could it have been better. Yes. But it had all of the elements that make for a great race.
By: Lee L.
Posted: January 19, 2011
Well run for an inaugural race
I heard many people complain about how this was a run through the slums. The reality is that yes, there were some parts that ran through industrial areas, but NY and Chicago do too. What they didn't acknowledge were the nice parts of the city that we did see. I thought the volunteers were great, and the organization was not bad for a first-time race. I spoke with the race director and some of the folks who put this race together. They were serious about the comments and I would expect that there will be some changes. All in all, I really enjoyed this race.
By: Eva S.
Posted: January 19, 2011
Loved it!
From the enthusiastic and encouraging volunteers along the entire marathon course to the shrimp and grits at the finish line, GOOD job by the Charleston Marathon for a great job on your inaugural marathon!! Thanks for allowing me to exchange my shirt for a smaller one; for the plentiful water, pretzels and GU along the course; and for having food, water, and EAS drinks left at the finish for us 6-hour marathoners. It was a beautiful sunny day for us girls traveling from Michigan. Your city is AWESOME!!!
By: Albert L.
Posted: January 19, 2011
Flat and well organized
I liked this race. I stayed with a friend who took care of my transportation so I can't comment on that. But I had a great time. It is not a scenic course except for the start, but it was well organized and supported.
At 4 hours I was always around other runners and never questioned where to go. There was music in many spots and lots of marshals.
The mile markers could have been a little more eye-catching, but they had a car with a speaker announcing the time at most mile markers.
The race director sent out emails ahead of time with lot of information. I only think this race will get better.
By: Wayne La Groix
Posted: January 18, 2011
A good effort; it will benefit from experience
I would like to say that, for a first marathon, the effort was credible. I could echo the negative points raised and the route could have been better - as in "more scenic." However, I understand that there were approximately 25% more people running than expected. I think this is a tribute to the location and the timing of the race. I think that the lessons learned from the race review will highlight the fact that you are on to something positive. I appreciate the fact that this race was organized by volunteers; I appreciate the effort. Thank you for the opportunity to run and I am looking forward to next year.
By: Don Smythe
Posted: January 18, 2011
Fast, friendly course; well organized.
Well organized for any marathon - for an inaugural event, very impressive. Weather was perfect, course was flat, and we got shrimp and grits at the end. I finished in 4:45 or so and found the bus ride back to the free parking garage easy to manage. We spoke to the RD after the race and he seemed very eager to hear any suggestions. I predict this race will become one of the big ones on the East Coast. I'll come back for sure.
By: Justin B.
Posted: January 17, 2011
It wasn't horrible
This was my first marathon and I had an overall good experience, but there were many things that need to be cleaned up about the race itself. It was very difficult to find where to go once you got to the general vicinity of the race start line after parking. I was first directed to one place where the start line was, but then was told to walk over to another place 4 blocks over where the port-a-potties were (and told that everyone would walk over together). No one seemed to know what was going on. As others have mentioned, the course was in the ghetto of North Charleston. Hopefully next year, they will redesign the course to see the beautiful scenes of Charleston (i.e. Mt. Pleasant, Ravenel Bridge, etc.). The spectators were great, and once the race started everyone seemed to have a good time. The course is very flat and well marked. The finish line was good, but I was expecting a festival - given the name of the race - and instead it was just the expo tent with a few vendors inside.
By: Joseph B.
Posted: January 17, 2011
Nice start, nice finish, terrible in between
I ran the half. The first couple of miles were fantastic and scenic. The last mile through the Navy Yard area was nice also. Middle section? I thought a COPS episode was going to break out at any moment! The half started at 8 a.m. I tried to look for a bus back to the start to get my car and they said they weren't sending buses until 11 a.m., three hours after the half started. They finally summoned a bus to take back a bunch of freezing cold, half marathon runners. Positives: race director was accessible and friendly. Needs a more interesting course and better bus service if this is going to be a point-A-to-point-B race.
By: Joye RunTurtleRun
Posted: January 17, 2011
Inaugural marathon race with lots of mistakes
As a marathoner with over 45 races - both domestic and international - I thought this was a typical inaugural marathon race with lots of mistakes. The course should have been so much better. If only the start/finish were from the same location, with more miles in the Charleston historic district, and fewer miles in industrial areas/shipyard and fewer railroad crossings (especially at the end, when legs are so tired that it's easy to trip). Ugly areas should only be used to connect the nicer areas, and long out-and-backs at the end are never a good idea, especially when it's flat and unflattering to the host city. Time limits should be exact! The clock should remain up; and someone should be there to place the medal around the runners neck, and give them nourishment and encouragement. If you have ever been in the back of the pack, cramping, and just wanting the damn thing to be over, you known how hard it is to see the finish and there is no one there. I spoke to some of the race crew, made some suggestions and hope they will correct their mistakes. Right now, I couldn't recommend this one.
By: Meri K.
Posted: January 17, 2011
We could have used a map...
Taking into account that this was an inaugural race, perhaps many of these issues will be resolved by next year. The City of Charleston is a wonderful place to visit, even in the "dead" of winter, and I am hopeful the course will be redesigned to include more of the scenic areas.
This was really a 6-hour marathon advertised as a 7.5-hour marathon. We had a first-time marathon runner in our group and had set an easy pace to allow us to finish in 6.5 hours. We chose this race BECAUSE of the 7.5-hour time limit and we wanted them to feel relaxed and unhurried during their first full marathon. This wasn't to be.
At every single mile, our pace (a sub-15 minute pace!) was being pushed, including the first mile, when we were harassed by the "sag bus" and its fumes. The police and course monitors began telling us to run on the crappy sidewalks and not the streets long before the course should have been closed.
When we were "abandoned" on the course, no one gave us a map. There were a few water stops where there was NO WATER, because the volunteers were told the race was over and they could leave.
At least at 6 different points, the course crossed over itself. At one intersection, we couldn't figure out where to go because the course cues painted on the road were going in every direction and the course monitors were gone! (Shout out to the cyclist who found someone to help us!)
The timing people began removing the mats at 6.5 hours, until my husband told them they were supposed to stay down until 7.5 hours were up and that there were still runners on the course.
When we finally did cross the finish line, we were told our medals were in the "tent" and then we had to dig them out of box. How hard was it to designate someone to be at the finish to hand us a medal, at least until the 7.5-hour time limit was met?
We maintained a 15-minute-per-mile pace for the entire race and even with a long emergency stop, we still finished well under 7 hours!
I understand this is an INAUGURAL marathon, so there will always be issues to iron out. I am a slow runner (5+ hours), so my expectations of finish line amenities are somewhat conservative. There was PLENTY of beer and shrimp and grits LEFT, so that was a most excellent surprise.
Lesson Learned: Even though I've never had this problem on any of the other 6 fulls I've run, from now on, I will ALWAYS print a map of any race I am running to carry with me, even if it's open for 10 hours.
By: Lisa S.
Posted: January 17, 2011
Disappointing
I was disappointed that the course was mostly through. I finished in five and a half hours and there was no "festival" to be found. More port-a-potties are needed at the water stops and the start of the race. The expo was small, and the walk from the parking lot to the tent was not lit! The volunteers were fantastic though. The kids playing music along the course were fabulous. The Gatorade was NOT watered down! Thank you! This race has potential and I suspect that it will improve in years to come. Please change the course to reflect Charleston's beauty and this could become SC's premier marathon.
By: Julie O.
Posted: January 17, 2011
Had fun, course needs lots of improvements...
I love Charleston and visit quite often. I ran the marathon and had fun - and I even got a PR - but I have to agree that the course was NOT scenic in the least. The first 3-4 miles through Charleston were very nice; after that, it did not show off the city at all. Really, if it were my first time visiting Charleston, I would not have the best impression of the city. There are so many possibilities for a beautiful course that they did not take advantage of; I hope that they will make significant adjustments to showcase the city (and PLEASE get rid of the last out-and-back for the last 5-6 miles of the course - that was truly horrendous). On the positive side, I thought the organization was TONS BETTER this year, the water stops were great and predictable, the long-sleeve tech shirt was nice, and I did have a fun time. Food and atmosphere were great after the race too - A LOT of people hung out for quite a while, which made it fun. I am sure I will run it again in the future because I love to run races and I do love Charleston....
By: Mike W.
Posted: January 17, 2011
Hope to see this race make it!
I had the pleasure of pacing the 4:30 group on Saturday, and this was #49 of marathon or beyond for me. This race really feels like a junior Myrtle Beach race to me. It's low-key, and not some over-the-top commercial race. I like that. You could tell the people cared. The course for this year was a bit industrial (it is getting very hard to get municipalities to work with races), but I hope the success of this race will convince the city to let them incorporate more and more of the nice parts. A few technical glitches like GUs a little late, and initially offering only espresso-flavored ones, and a congested out-and-back, but not too bad. I enjoy races like this, and I hope this one makes it. In a few years it could be one of the best in the south, with some upgrades.
By: John W.
Posted: January 17, 2011
A nice foundation for organizers to build upon
First, congrats to the organizers for successfully staging the initial running of this marathon. Organizing an inaugural event is a daunting task, in that everything had to be built from scratch, including the big things like securing a large pool of local volunteers to draw upon and little stuff like mile marker signs and basic procedures for how and where to distribute packets. I'm sure the granularity of the nitty gritty details is much more detailed than most runners (myself included) realize.
Given that this was a first-year event, I don't judge it with the same critical eye that I would a more established race. If it were the 18th annual running, I would expect that everything runs like clockwork. For the first annual running, it is more a case of putting on the show with minimal challenges, and learning what can be improved in the future.
From reading about the organizer's efforts in getting this race up and running, it seems that getting the various local municipalities on-board with staging the race was a bit challenging. While there is opportunity to draw up a course route that winds through more of the scenic and historic parts of the area, my sense is that the organizers did the best they could with what local officials would allow. That's a miss, but not on the part of the race officials.
Preamble aside, this was a fun race. It was a bit chilly at the start but we couldn't have asked for a nicer day to run - temps were around a crisp 50 F once we got a couple of hours into the race. While the crowds were pretty sparse, the volunteers (who were great) and musical groups along the route were very energetic. On-course support was terrific, aid stations were plentiful, and the shuttle bus system after the race seemed to work well.
Some suggestions to enhance future runnings. This is all minor stuff so it may look like a laundry list of complaints, but really it's more of a list of "do this better to go from good to great":
- Consider holding the expo in downtown Charleston. That's where the majority of the hotels are, so that would likely be a more convenient location for many participants. I chose not to rent a car, which made it impractical to wander up north for the expo.
- There's an opportunity for better signage near the starting line (I found it by following the crowds) and the race day packet pickup location.
- The PA system at the starting line was not loud enough to cut through the din. I started mid-pack, and if there was any sort of countdown prior to the air horn, nobody around me heard it. You should get the model that goes to eleven.
- Need more overtly-labeled garbage cans near the start for the bottles, gels, etc. that will be discarded.
- I assume this will happen, but please field a post-race survey and attempt to quantify the impact of the race on the local economy. I can't begin to guess at an accurate number, but I know I dropped somewhere in the range of $600 between hotels, meals, and local activities/excursions. Putting a tangible number in front of the local poobahs might engender a more receptive attitude toward future runnings.
Would I recommend this race to others? Yes - it's a well-organized event in a city with a lot of history to offer, and as the logistics get tightened in the future, it's bound only to get better.
By: Harrell T.
Posted: January 16, 2011
Transportation to the race start line was slow
Course allowed a realistic view of varying living conditions of the area. I felt safe. Organizers should put more interest in the transportation of the participants.
By: Jon T.
Posted: January 16, 2011
Abandoned all runners slower than 6-hour pace
Even though this was advertised as a 7.5-hour race, the course was aggressively closed by police and organizers, leaving numerous marathoners on the course with no support or directions.
By: Elizabeth C.
Posted: January 16, 2011
Very disappointing race course
This is my 11th marathon, and I would have to rate this course the worst I've ever run. Sure, it is flat, but it is UGLY! With the exception of the first 3-4 miles, you are running through the blighted areas of North Charleston for the majority of the race. Not only is it ugly, but it is depressing. We ran past a strip club, numerous liquor stores, and boarded up houses. This should not be called the Charleston Marathon as the majority is in North Charleston. There are so many beautiful areas of Charleston. It is confounding as to why the organizers would have us run through this area. It shows Charleston in its worst light and does nothing to promote the city.
As for organization, it was below average. The expo was chaotic. There were no directions to the start or porta-potties when getting off the buses on race morning. Everyone was stressed. No corrals at the start. If there were announcements, you could not hear them. No timing mats anywhere except start and finish. Also there were supposed to be water and gels at every mile from 20 to the end, but this was not true, they were still two miles apart.
Something positive: the shrimp and grits at the end were delicious. The volunteers were enthusiastic and the water stops were well-staffed. The police did a great job at the intersections.
Overall, I would not recommend this race unless the course is drastically changed. It is a fast, flat course, so maybe if you don't care about scenery, and are gunning for a PR, you might be ok. But otherwise, I cannot recommend it.
By: hank m.
Posted: January 16, 2011
Disappointing
Having traveled from out of state, I was disappointed by the race. I ran the half-marathon. The City of Charleston is beautiful and the people are very friendly, but the course did not show much of the city. Most of the route was along unpopulated (industrial) roads along a train track.
The biggest fiasco was the transportation. The start and finish lines are in different places. They charged (in advance) for bus service from the finish back to the start. People waited for an hour or so just to get on what appeared to be only bus they hired. Finally, they "called in" for another bus at the last minute to accommodate hundreds of waiting people.
People didn't know where to catch the bus, or where the bag pick up was after the race.
I understand it is their first attempt at organizing a race, but you couldn't find anyone after the race who could answer questions.
Visit the city; skip the race.
By: Bill B.
Posted: January 15, 2011
Good - especially for the first one
I had a very enjoyable race, which helped me BQ and AG again. This was my 26th 26.2, and 24th state, so I guess I know a good race by now, and Charleston was fine, and overall more than the 3 1/2 stars it gets with these rankings - more like 4 to 4 1/2. No one would have known this was their first full - all the details were taken care of and the runners' needs met. It was small and fun, in a great little city. And there are only a few others in January - and I really didn't want to go to Jackson or Mobile (and was glad, since they got hit by the ice/snow last week) and have FL done so Disney was out. I would definitely recommend this race.
Pros: Flat course with only a couple of minor hills; great weather (34 at start with light wind, and it warmed to 46); more than adequate course support, including GUs starting at 20, and plenty of nice volunteers everywhere; closed to traffic streets; no relay (it is so annoying to get passed by speedy guys only running 6 miles); long-sleeve tech shirt and carrying bag; easy to use web page and pre-race emails; free parking at start; lots of good hotels within a 15-minute walk of the start (I stayed at the French Quarter Inn, which I loved); good restaurants every where; Charleston is an excellent destination with a proximal airport, and the expo (also the finishing tent) was on the way in from the airport so it saved a separate cab back out there; expo is small and well organized; bag check worked fine; a few bands on the course to perk things up; excellent finish area with plenty of the food you want, including bagels and peanut butter (a first for me), beer, and shrimp and grits, which I didn't eat since I'm a vegan but others praised, and other food if you bring some cash (plus a good announcer at the finish who read as many names and cities as he could); only $3 to ride bus back to the start; etc. Lots to love.
Cons: I'm not a big fan of point-to-points, but Boston and NYC and other famous ones are, and the course wasn't memorable, and often boring/ugly, several out-and-backs, (but the first 2 miles through the historic downtown were nice, and hey, most of NYC, Chicago, Boston, and most of the other city races I've run aren't that pretty, but what cities have 26 miles of beauty?); very few fans; the half, but that was not really a problem since it wasn't that full and there was plenty of room to run; and the final 10K were final. These are just some picky points, and nothing to stop you from coming.
By: Craig C.
Posted: January 15, 2011
Charleston is beautiful; this race is not
Run through the ghettos of Charleston. Wow! Could have been in Detroit.