By: Sabrina T.
Posted: September 09, 2020
Profit-hungry Organization
During the pandemic Rock and Roll was the only race I entered that didn't offer a refund. They offered to let us run in 2021 when there won't be a full option which doesn't help people doing 50 states. The other races they offered weren't an option for me and when I explained this they refused a refund and tried to lay on a huge guilt trip about the global pandemic. They should be the ones feeling guilty about keeping profits that all of us affected by the pandemic could use to help our situations. This is horrible company. Do not race a Rock and Roll Race.
By: Tom S.
Posted: August 16, 2019
Not a fan
I decided to give a Rock 'n' Roll race another try after being somewhat disappointed by Vegas five years ago. I remain unconvinced that these races are worth the high entry fee, though Seattle had some bright spots.
The highlights included a beautiful view of downtown Seattle and Mount Rainier as runners descended from the Queen Anne hill neighborhood around Mile 12, and separate inspirational miles honoring those who serve, as well as St. Jude kids (St. Jude was the race's beneficiary).
The lowlights were many, but admittedly some of that was on me. It started at the expo. I had been emailed my bib number, but didn't have it with me. What usually is a simple lookup became a royal pain because few of the computer stations were working and when I finally got to a working one, it defaulted to the race in San Diego, not Seattle. Next up was a shirt snafu. I asked if I could try it on because while I usually get a medium, sometimes that's too small. This try-on shirt fit perfectly, so they gave me a medium. Alas, the one they gave me was either a female medium or the one I tried on was a large because you'd probably have to go back 50 years to find a time when I was tiny enough to wear a shirt that small.
Next up was race day. A volunteer pointed out the gear check tent and because I had plenty of time, I didn't check things right away. Alas, the tent wasn't gear check; it was in a separate building. I and several others ended up racing to the real gear check moments before the start, and then found chaos afterward as we tried to get in the correct corral. Funny, the only time I've had a similar problem was at the Vegas Rock 'n' Roll. Again, some of it is on me because there was pre-race communication telling where gear check was, but when I'm in another city, I get directionally confused and rely on volunteers. I hate to criticize them because of all the good things they do; I put it on the organization for improper training.
In fact, I probably would've given the organization 1 star were it not for the receipt of an age-group award. Of my 44 marathons, this was the most difficult course so I surely didn't expect any awards when I finished in my second-worst time ever. But in checking results the next day, I discovered I was second in my age group (tip: get old!). I emailed the organizers and while it took about 6 weeks, a very nice trophy came in the mail.
The course itself was fairly nice the first half. The hills were brutal for this flatlander, but I knew that going in. But the second half was mostly boring, and as if you weren't beat up enough, they tossed in some more steep hills around Mile 20. Then to top it off, the gear check was on the lower level of a building so you got a bunch of steps afterward. You can't really do anything about the topography of a city, but it seems they could've avoided hills for the gear retrieval. And oh, if you're into the rock 'n' roll aspect of the event, you might be disappointed. Not all that many acts (though more than Vegas). I see more than twice as much entertainment in half the distance at the Indianapolis Mini-Marathon.
By: Anthony T.
Posted: June 10, 2019
Hilly course needs changes
Hills at mile 20 and Woodland Park were so unnecessary. Also, consider moving race to May for cooler weather.
By: Franklin f.
Posted: July 01, 2018
Ten year legacy runner
I have run Rock 'n' Roll Seattle all ten years and was given a Ten Year Legacy Runner shirt. Thank you for the recognition.
Pros:
The Start/First line returns to the Seattle Center. I really like this venue.
The Wear Blue mile always evokes emotion
Interlaken Blvd was new to the course. A peaceful oasis of old growth trees and singing birds.
Weather was mostly good, although a rain squall did pass through just as the Headliner Concert started.
Cons:
The new course had lots of hills. The King of the Hill run was as steep of a grade that I have ever seen.
For the first time, the course did not run along Lake Washington. I miss those scenic miles.
Fewer bands and cheer squads on the course.
By: Albert E.
Posted: June 22, 2017
Beautiful weather!
The weather this year is wonderful and I thought it is well suited to run a marathon. Cloudy skies, very little breeze from the ocean, good temperature in the 50s, and even little mist touching your face. So I don't have complain on what was given by mother nature.
However I got two things to mention:
1. I purchased parking and shuttle tickets online and I didn't receive email notifications that I should pick up the tickets at the expo until Saturday which is after I got my bib on Friday. I did not want to go back for the tickets and pay another $20 for parking (ridiculous!) so I decided to take the train instead. Communication is an issue.
2.The tunnel is the worst section of the course because you're body is slanted the whole time and very taxing on the legs/feet when at that point you're almost dead. Suggestion: Re-route it.
Big applause to my pacers (5:10) who ran exactly as expected!
By: Stephanie L.
Posted: June 22, 2017
Disappointing changes
I have run this half marathon twice before and 2017 was a year of disappointing changes:
1- The date change from a Saturday to a Sunday, Father's Day, Sunday;
2- the course change left out the viaduct - some of the most beautiful scenery of Seattle, the ships, Ferris Wheel, Seattle Center;
3- the start was not at the Space Needle, but a football stadium;
4- the corrals were more narrow;
5- not enough porta johns, making the lines very long;
6- for a Rock N Roll marathon, the bands were terribly disappointing; 7 significantly fewer spectators and cheerleaders, probably due to it being FATHER's DAY.
If you expect to see a good tour of the city, don't run the Rock N Roll Seattle Half Marathon.
By: Guillaume C.
Posted: June 20, 2017
Course changed and will probably change again....
Organization was overall excellent. Minor issues were: not enough port-a-johns at the start (but that is true of many races), and lack of organization/signage at the start - I searched for the gear bag drop for quite a bit. In addition to this, transportation to the start was problematic for many runners. Many people tried to ride the Link light rail to the start, but they did not plan on enough trains so early in the morning, and many of the cars were full and could not take passengers at the stations close to the start. I guess that's more of an issue with the Seattle transportation agency, but RnR should work with them to solve the issue (assuming the race starts there next year).
Course: They had a new course this year, starting from Husky Stadium at the University of Washington, going through the Arboretum, towards Seward Park, then going to Downtown through Rainier avenue. At around M18 the course went by Century Link stadium, and from there the marathoners would head north to a section on a viaduct, tunnel, and highway for an out and back.
That last section was my least favorite part of the course. It was dreadful because of what felt like a long incline, and because running through the tunnel was very unpleasant. Also, that late in the race you feel that the turnaround will never come. Overall the hills before that section were not too bad but that long incline between M20-22 really killed me - and a lot of other people. It's unlikely that the course will stay the same as I heard that the viaduct will be demolished so who knows how they will change the course.
Another course-related item is the marathoners/half-marathoners merging. The marathoners split from the half at M8 to run around Seward Park, and then merged back with the half marathoners at M13 until ~ M18. I have seen worse merge situations, and the organizers did a good job at making lanes specific for each of the race. So even though I was running ~7:30 pace next to slow half marathoners, it did not really impact my pace.
Crowd support was almost non-existent. I don't really care about this, but I am mentioning it just in case. It seems like they were barely any spectators, except maybe around Rainier avenue and in the 0.1 miles before the finish line.
The finish was well organized but the food at the finish was not very fulfilling. However I really enjoyed getting a marathon-specific jacket. Not only did it make for a nice perk, but it also came handy because of the cold drizzle at the finish. The medal was also good-looking even though it's not a major factor for me in deciding whether or not to run a race.
Overall I don't think I would travel again for that race as I feel that the last part was very difficult. However it's a nice option for a late spring marathon and I think the race has the potential to be faster, assuming they eliminate that dreadful out and back section on the viaduct.
By: Alexandra S.
Posted: September 20, 2016
Beautiful views but depressing course
I ran this race because I was going to visit my friend in Washington for a week, and I wanted a spring/summer marathon to improve my BQ time. I had heard wonderful things about RnR races and was very excited! I did not finish with the time I wanted. I would not blame it on the course, but I was nevertheless disappointed.
As others have mentioned, the long highway slogs, particularly 18 miles onward, are demoralizing and painful. My best friend came to Seattle with me, and race officials would not let her get close enough to cheer after Mile 18 because the entire road was the race, and there was apparently no room for spectators. You only hear the bands for a minute or so as you pass, and if they were playing every mile I definitely missed them. I love running trail races, and don't need someone to cheer me on when I run. That being said, the fans lining the course were weirdly silent except for their specific runners? I'd rather have no people than silent spectators. There were many sections of the course that doubled back and you watched your future pass you by.
The views of the water were beautiful, and the Blue Mile was inspiring (my brother started at the Air Force Academy this fall). Temperature was okay. Water stops were sufficient.
Overall, it was extremely overpriced. I would much rather have paid $80 for a small marathon with beautiful views and a comfortable running surface and no spectators than for highway running and over-promised support and enthusiasm.
By: Charles S.
Posted: September 14, 2016
Worth a trip to Seattle
For me, this marathon was an excuse to visit a great city. As far as R&R events go, this was better than most. All R&R events are half marathons with a marathon option, but this marathon course was actually pretty good. No industrial parks (Nashville) or far off suburbs (Las Vegas). This was a course where the Half runners missed out on some good scenery, although the best scenery is in the first 13 miles. The hills weren't as bad as this Florida flatlander expected. I found steep inclines with gradual declines that worked to my advantage. Running through the tunnel was bad. Uneven roadway and it smelled like a dirt horse barn. Overall I was pleased with the course. The expo was OK. I found the start area at the Needle easy to find, but getting to the bag check and then back to my corral through Seattle Center was confusing. At the start there was no corral integrity. I started in corral 3 and had corral 38 Half people get in front of me at the start. I liked the finish next to the stadium and the finish area as a whole. I would not travel just for this marathon, but use it as an excuse to visit Seattle and you won't be disappointed. Its also the beginning of Orca season so rent a car and head to San Juan Island after your race.
By: Joseph T.
Posted: July 09, 2016
Highway Running in a Beautiful City
Where we live in the Southeast where summer marathons are few and far between. We jumped at the opportunity to run Seattle in conjunction with a larger family vacation that went out of Seattle. This was part of the Rock n Roll series. I guess I can see the allure with it as I met a few veterans that had run the series through the country, but Im not part of that crowd. Seattle is a beautiful city with a lot to offer, so Id suggest staying a day or 2 later to take in all that it has to offer.
Just a warning the start and finish/expo are about 1.5 2 miles apart, so make the appropriate accommodations when you get a hotel. We were lucky to get a hotel blocks from the start near the Space Needle.
The course had nice views of the city visited many different areas of Seattle, but Ive run nicer courses. Overall, I think running on the uneven highways was worse than the few hills that the course had. I think the profile map was a bit misleading the hill just before mile 26 was an on-ramp to an overpass. The worst hill to me was mile 22 coming back from the bridge it didnt seem to end. The hill at mile 17 before was steep, but pretty short.
Start: Very crowded start where half and full start together. Good idea with the corrals, but see below.
Mile 1 4: very crowded through a tunnel and highway. Beautiful views of the city
Miles 4 9.5: Industrial and residential area. We split off from half at 9.5 and meet up with them again at about mile 15.
Miles 9.5 17: Best part of the run along Lake Washington and around Seward Park. Absolutely flat. I always like seeing the leaders (out and backs), so I was able to see the front-runners before doing the 2 mile loop in the park before running by the people behind me.
Mile 17 23 After a sharp uphill to the expressway, a death march on a highway that you can see. Note that once you get to the other side of the lake, you still have another 1 mile out to get to the turnaround.
Mile 23 26.2 more highway running. Mile 25 is on the exit ramp where you run between the stadiums to the finish.
Pros After running with the half-marathon for the first 9+ miles, I personally liked meeting up with the half-marathon at mile 15 16 (wear blue) and then miles 23 -26.2. It made me feel fast passing all of the half-marathoners still on the course.
Pros lots of great aid support water, Gatorade, etc. The electrolyte drink was great.
Pros great weather. Probably started in the 50s and maybe ended in the low 60s. Temperature not a factor.
Cons the highway running was not fun, but probably most convenient for the race director. I didnt mind the tunnels as much as others did.
Cons not a testament to the race, but the people. They did a great job of having starting corrals, but that seemed to blow up at the beginning. I started with the 8:00 per mile crew and was passing 11 min milers 3 miles into the race. This was very inconvenient for all involved, especially once we did a short out and back and the course was cut in half. With chip times, there is no reason to start at the front of the pack.
Overall, it was a good experience in a beautiful city. Plus my wife BQed and works for CenturyLink (the stadium where the race ends), so it was good pub for her. Nonetheless, I probably wouldnt do it on a yearly basis if it were in my back yard since I would imagine there are a lot of other marathons in the area that may have more to offer in terms of scenery.
By: Nicole H.
Posted: June 23, 2016
Exactly what you expect
This race is exactly what you expect from Rock n' Roll and from the other reviews you read here.
As with other of this brand, the focus is on the half. The full and half start together and the full folks branch off from the course twice. Both of those branches tend to feel like after thoughts - once is a nice (quiet) park, the other is a bridge with tunnels and sadness in the final 10k.
These races have organization down to a science. The expo is organized and efficient and the corral start really prevented course congestion despite all 3 races (8k, half, full) starting in one group. This is my 2nd Rock n Roll and in both the start has been delayed by at least 15 minutes - doesn't seem like much but when you're timing the last pee break and when to ditch your outer layer it can be frustrating. I had to pee for 42.5k.
Aid stations in the first 10 miles were crowded as there were so many half marathoners as well. Bathroom lineups, water lineups etc. But plenty of volunteers and actual aid. The pacers were great and the ones I kept my eye on brought folks in just under the goal.
I enjoyed the experience. I didn't mind the course, I don't think it really showed off the best of Seattle, but it was fine. Not very hilly. we had perfect weather - overcast and a bit drizzly, not too warm.
By: John B.
Posted: June 20, 2016
Parts of course are spectacular
The part of the course through Seward Park and along the Lake Washington coast was spectacular. It coincided with signs bearing portraits of cancer honorees and fallen soldiers. Those were very powerful miles.
The course before that was average. The course after that, across a very long highway bridge and through a very long tunnel, was pretty dreary. Overall, I think they should keep what's good and try to improve the rest.
Regarding race organization, I had high expectations from many years running the RnR San Jose Half, and I was disappointed. At RnR Seattle, there was no signage or staff to help when we arrived at the starting area. Everyone was wandering around trying to find the Gear Drop and Staring Line. They were super-slow at starting corrals, pausing at least a minute between each one (there were probably 40 corrals!). It took us an hour to cross the start longest I have ever experienced. On the course, I did not appreciate that a water stop worker didn't want me to fill up my water bottle from the pitcher. It made no sense, and I was dehydrated after 4.5 hours. I paid hundreds of dollars to get here, and you're going to deny me 12 oz of Gatorade?
There wasn't much spectator support on most of the course. Maybe due to road closures and parts of the course run on bridges, through tunnels, and on elevated highways.
By: Wendy O.
Posted: August 12, 2015
R&R Seattle was my very first marathon
R&R Seattle was my very first marathon and it was a great experience. I thought Seattle was the perfect size. Great course support, a scenic course. Of course, the bands on the course.
I would recommend any one of the Rock 'n' Roll races to a first timer.
By: Lois O.
Posted: July 24, 2015
Not what I'd hoped for...
This was my 10th marathon, first in Seattle and first Rock 'n Roll marathon. I honestly do not see the draw of these Rock 'n Roll marathons. They seem really overpriced for what you get in return.
Course - I pretty much hated this course. I did like the part around the Lake Washington but other than that is was pretty awful. Running on freeways and through tunnels with zero spectators and atmosphere was awful - and it comes at the worst part of the race, miles 16-22. The 'Wear Blue to Remember' mile was beautiful and touching. I can't let myself get emotional during a race like this so I had to kind of push it aside - but it was very cool! I did NOT like when we merge back with the Half Marathoners. They did a relatively good job of keeping them separate with tape but there was one water stop where everyone was together. People running a sub 3:40 Full Marathon approach a water stop MUCH MUCH differently than someone running a 4+ hour Half marathon. This should NEVER happen. Also, the screechy DJ music in the tunnels was nothing short of horrid!!! SO completely unnecessary. I couldn't wait to get out of those damn tunnels.
Spectators - Maybe I'm spoiled from races like Twin Cities Marathon and Boston but there were hardly any spectators. Some of the bands were pretty good - for the 1 minute that you run by them... But having 'cheer teams' just doesn't do anything for me.
I don't pick races because of the 'swag bag' and other little things like that. I pick races because of what fits into my schedule and the course. But this race seemed really spendy for what you got. I hate when they can't even give you a separate shirt from the Half marathoners. And it was just a short sleeve, gray shirt. The jacket for full marathoners is really nice (very thin but nice for summer) though and a fun bonus. There was nothing additional in the bag beside your number and shoe tag.
Post-race: I was in the family meeting area when I started having extremely had cramps to the point that I almost passed out. There was no additional medical personnel walking around that could have assisted me. I have seen this before in other races, it would have been nice this time. They had some bands around and it looked festive but after a full marathon, I was in too much pain to enjoy any of that.
I trained really, really hard for this race and the conditions were quite nice but I did not meet my goal so I was a little disappointed. I still got a 5+ min. BQ but I had bigger dreams! Something about running on all those freeways just chewed up my legs!
I don't regret doing this race but I have zero desire to do this race or another RNR marathon again.
By: Kendra W.
Posted: July 21, 2015
Exceeded expectations. Good atmosphere.
I like June marathons. It allows me to train through the Spring and minimizes winter weather running. Rock 'n' Roll Seattle is a quality marathon. Scenic course. Good energy. Great organization.
The Wear Blue mile was great. I became aware of this organization from watching the Ironman Triathalon last fall. The featured athlete was the founder of Wear Blue.
By: Larry C.
Posted: June 14, 2015
Love Seattle - the city and this race
I've been running the various Rock 'n' Roll races since the very beginning. I won't rank the races because each city is unique and every year it's a different experience. This was another good year for Seattle. The weather was sunny, and the temperatures were perfect for a marathon. I like the course. The run along Lake Washington is very scenic.
As to be expected from a Rock 'n' Roll race, organization was solid from start to finish. The bands and cheer squads made the run even more enjoyable. Good job Seattle. I'll be back.
By: Rich L.
Posted: September 06, 2014
This race is not for whiners
It is interesting to read the positive and negative reviews of a race. I thought R&R Seattle was well staged. It certainly met my expectations. Was it perfect? No, but I have yet to run in the perfect race.
By: Darrell C.
Posted: June 27, 2014
A significant let-down from start to finish
This is the first time I ran a Rock n Roll marathon. When you pay top-dollar for a race, you expect everything to be the best - from the goodie bag to the course to the post-race treats. Overall, this race was a significant let-down from start to finish.
The expo was well-attended and the typical hard-sell for a bunch of cool stuff. The goodie bag, which didn't even say the name of the marathon on it, was virtually empty. It included the purchased tech t-shirt, plus a small bottle of fish oil and two water flavoring packets. That's it. Not even a little packet of icy hot or a mini-Clif bar. I've run in much less expensive races that went all out on the swag. Not the end of the world, but just wanting value for money. The medal was cool, though.
The morning of the race, port-a-potties were at a premium. I estimate the average line was 30+ people long. We scrounged around at an indoor food court to get to a shorter line (for men, anyway). I lined up in my corral at 7am for race start. I was aiming for a sub-4:00 time and was in corral 17. It took me 26 minutes to cross the start line. By the time I started, my knees ached a bit from standing and I had to use the restroom (again)! But away I went. The race was shoulder to shoulder for the first six miles. That's when the half and full marathons split. An earlier split or allowing the marathoners to go first would have been much preferred (there were 6 times as many half marathoners).
We spent four days in Seattle leading up to the marathon and found it to be a beautiful city. More than half of the course led us through downtown, around lakes, and in parks. That was great. But a significant part of the run (many miles) were in tunnels. This was a horrible way to run (and I sure didn't train for that). They were dark and without spectators. The tunnels were banked so that by the time I emerged, one leg was killing me due to overuse (until I turned around and ran the same tunnel - then both were in equal amounts of pain!). There was a multiple-mile stretch on an exposed highway, which was without spectators, without bands, and without vistas. Between the tunnels and highway, the run was boring. I had always pictured a Rock n Roll marathon to be highly populated with cheering people and bands rocking the whole way through. Seattle did not live up to this expectation.
Im a bit of a data geek and the tunnels totally messed up my watch. By the time I was done, my watch showed 26.8 miles. I checked with a handful of people who finished with me and their watches ranged from 26.5 to 26.85. That made staying true to my plan very difficult throughout the race. I didn't bring music because I expected frequent bands. There were many the first half and they were very enjoyable. The highway and tunnels were lonely and music-less. There were good crowds around the bands, but sparse or non-existent everywhere else. The way the course was designed made it very difficult for families to find a place to watch and cheer (unless you have a car and could navigate around closed roads). The web site did not list 'spectator spots' like most marathons do, because there were none. And signing up for text alerts cost $5 and you had to agree to Facebook updates.
Yes, there was enough water and Gatorade. Yes, there were enough port-a-potties on the course. Yes, I got a finisher's medal. But these are not the signals of a well-organized race. These are table stakes. The Seattle Rock n Roll Marathon was poorly done on enough of the basics that it makes signing up for the race a big mistake.
By: Morgan S.
Posted: June 22, 2014
A great race for slow runners
When the Minneapolis Marathon was unexpectedly canceled, I immediately started looking for a replacement race. I chose Rock 'n' Roll Seattle, because I've always wanted to visit this city. As a slow runner, my race experience was very satisfying. Easily one of the best Rock 'n' Roll races I have run in the past few years.
Organization was great all around. Everyone was extremely helpful. The expo was big, and there were free samples to be found everywhere. It was like trick-or-treating for adults. The huge Brooks exhibit was really fun. The race shirt is attractive, and the finisher's medal is a keeper.
The start line is next to the iconic Space Needle, and the race begins with a run through downtown Seattle. The course is enjoyable despite a few hills and a couple of miles in an industrial part of town. After sharing the road with half marathoners for the first 10K, the marathoners get a separate race lane for the final 20 miles of the course. I loved all the bands and cheer squads. My favorite race moment, though, was the tribute to our fallen soldiers. Amazing!
Race day weather was ideal. A sunny day with perfect running temperatures. Beautiful views all around, especially Lake Washington and Mt. Rainier. Aid stations were nicely spaced and well-staffed. More importantly, course support was still out late in the race for all the slow runners. Fans were pretty sparse, mostly there were curious onlookers. I missed the post race concert, but the finish area was well organized and well stocked. I was happy to see plenty of food still on hand since I started in a high number corral and took over five hours to run the course. I was given an arm load of food and drink. The chocolate milk was delicious.
I would definitely recommend RnR Seattle if you are looking for a June marathon, or simply want a reason to visit one of America's great cities. One suggestion to the race organizers: Change the day of the race to Sunday. Traveling to Saturday races is more of a hassle.
By: Moira S.
Posted: March 16, 2014
A good summer marathon
RnR Seattle is a good summer marathon. 2013 had beautiful weather. The route along Lake Washington is as scenic as any in-city marathon in America.
I especially appreciated the aid stations at this race. I tripped during the run and skinned my knee. Luckily there was an aid station at the next mile. The medics had me sit down while they washed the blood off my leg and bandaged my knee. A few minutes later, it looked like I never fell. I was off and running and finished the race.
By: Kara L.
Posted: July 01, 2013
IT-band slapper
I ran the inaugural RnR Seattle in 2009, and have run the Seattle marathon in November. For years I have called these races the 'Ankle Breakers' because of our awesome potholed streets and steep hills. After running this years RnR marathon I have changed the nickname to the IT-band slapper :) The reasoning was that although the course changed a bit, the stretch through the I-90 tunnels were so angled it actually felt like I was making a v-8 commercial(running at an extreme angle, LOL). Other than that, course was BEAUTIFUL! ..here's my pros vs. cons list:
Pro:
-Expo was fun, games-they had ski-ball! The automated fortune tellers were hilarious!
-Race start had good music, plenty of porto potties in my opinion
-Good energy at the start
-The part through Rainier valley was not that bad, it's an area the city is trying to make nicer, but really, what mattered was the road was smooth and the locals(and the homeless) were out cheering.
-Best view..Seward park! Prepare to pull out your camera for a quick pic of the water + Mt. Rainier. I live here and was taken aback by how beautiful it was.
-All the little highschool cheer teams were full of energy and cheering
-Ample water/Gatorade stations
-Medics on bikes riding the course were ample and necessary
-Medal was nice, as was the free Jamba juice at the end
Cons:
-Parking for expo could be difficult or very expensive for out of towners.
-Long time to start...I started near the back to run with a friend doing the half...the race started at 7AM, we didn't cross the start until 8:15AM.
-HILLS-this is a hilly race, Steep hills. Up and Down. Do HILL work while training or it will bite you in the legs...come prepared.
-After mile 15 there is a narrow(narrows to 1 person width) path that is almost crawl worthy vertical up to the I-90 bridge. I got stuck behind people barely able to make it up. It is short though, so be patient getting up it.
-Miles 18-23, all on the I-90 bridge (nice views though)
-Miles 18-23: Bring music if you need it, there wasn't much for this portion of the race
-Miles 18-23: The tunnel portion had steep curving angles that I mentioned above that really did a number on my IT bands. It was also warm and sunny, so being on the open freeway bridge while running made it even hotter. Be prepared to grab extra water cups and dump water on your head to get through the hot freeway section, it will keep you going as it is open and roasty almost all the way to the end...unless it rains, then you're golden:)
-This is not a race to just jump into without training. By mile 21 people started dropping like flies. There was a medic golf cart that drove by me at least 4x's delivering hurt runners to the end and at least 4 people(young and old, male and female) sitting on the ground with medics next to them. I ran at a 4hr pace, so these were mostly middle pack average to fast runners who where dropping.
-One complaint about the Medics..at mile 23 I asked one on a bike for biofreeze...nope, none to be had. WTF? The guy next to me offered his little sample, but since he was limping there was no way I was taking his last bit of biofreeze.
-Steep(and I mean steep) hill straight down right before or around 25. I tried to bust down it, but my IT bands were burnt after the tunnels, so had to limp down, but it's short and then immediately goes up hill then evens out until almost the home stretch.
-Why, yes, there is a steep hill at the last .4 miles of the race, it's always been there and always will be. Be ready for it.
-Finish line was quite narrow for the marathoners.
-It's a RnR, so yeah, it's expensive.
All in all, a very challenging race, with gorgeous views of the city and mountains. I'll probably run this race again since I live in Seattle.
By: Dan O.
Posted: June 25, 2013
A Hero at Heavy Medal Station,
I love Rock n Roll marathon series, already ran 5 of them in 2013. At my turn to claim Rock Star heavy medal from the Station, a runner collapsed from behind me. Peoples looked for the Medics at this emergency situation. Then a young runner check the patient's heart and tried CPR. Just a right person on the right time before medics arrive. He saved a life!! Real Hero!!
By: Halina M.
Posted: June 24, 2013
Not a great course
While there were some scenic stretches along Lake Washington and some nice downtown waterfront views, there were also a lot of sections of this course that were awful. The seedy section of town along Rainier Avenue - really? Then the 2 tunnels and I-90 express lane section. Fumes in the tunnel, felt claustrophobic, and in the case of the Battery Street Tunnel it is just kind of creepy. As others have commented, the hill up to the finish was horrible - really - right at 13 miles we need that steep of an uphill? There was also a super steep downhill section that was very tough on the joints. Finally, the course was long according to my Garmin and other runners who I've talked with. It measured 13.4 miles for us. Come on, Rock-n-Roll - Seattle is a nice town. This has the potential to be a great race - work on the course for next time. You can do better than this!
Additionally - logistics comments:
1. The way the porta potties were organized in a narrow pathway made it tough to squeeze through the crowd and actually get to the corrals. This needs rethinking to enable foot traffic to flow better.
2. Security - I ran in Boston this year so security was very top of mind for me. I was really surprised you didn't use clear gear bags. I saw more bomb sniffing dogs for which I was grateful. But lots of areas where I expected access to be more blocked than it seemed to be too. I'd feel safer with a few more visible precautions including the clear bags.
By: Madison J.
Posted: June 24, 2013
Great weather. Great course. Great race.
I will remember the 2013 RnR Seattle for the gorgeous weather. It was a sunny day that put Seattle's natural beauty on display. Course modifications eliminated a nasty hill from last year. A definite improvement. Run support was excellent. Thank you volunteers! The Seattle Center is a great venue for this event. Relaxing around the fountain was a great way to finish a race.
This was the 5 year anniversary of RnR Seattle, and I have run this event every year. It was nice to be recognized as a legacy runner and given an extra shirt.
I drive almost 300 miles to run this race. It's worth it.
By: Brian OC
Posted: June 23, 2013
Scenic, great crowds, tough second half
This was my first year running Rock'n'Roll Seattle.
Well organized wave start kept the first mile from being too congested.
Very scenic race, with the several miles along Lake Washington being a highlight; you see just about all the major Seattle sites along the route with great views of Mount Rainer and the Olympic mountains. Great crowds everywhere except when the route heads on the I-90 bridge.
This route was fairly flat until around mile 15, and from that point on every 1-1.5 miles had a significant hill... not a good race to attempt a negative split. Apparently one dangerously steep hill from the 2012 route was eliminated so sounds like the 2013 course was improved over the prior year.
Organizers kept half and full marathoners split when the courses merge for the last ~6 miles. That worked well for the marathoners who had ample room, but not so well for the half-marathoners who I noticed were often shoulder-to-shoulder with little passing room, since about 5x more folks were running the half than the full.
Plenty of on-course hydration with 2 GU stops. Gatorade was provided every 3 miles or so (wished they had Nuun or just about anything else.)
Post-race plenty of free energy drinks, smoothies, bars, bananas to re-energize. Not nearly enough restrooms pre/post-race, although presumably that's not a problem if you pay extra for the pre/post race VIP.
By: Tasha C.
Posted: June 14, 2013
Not Enough Bang for Your Buck
Perhaps I went into this race with expectations a tad too high. I blame the glitzy magazine ads promoting the local bands performing at every mile marker. Awesome, right? However, I was less than impressed with this race from the expo to the finish line. Pros: efficient wave starts that allowed plenty of room to avoid weaving in and out of the masses, a decent finisher's medal to add to a collection. Cons: Exorbitant entry fee didn't include parking ($15 to attend the mandatory expo as no one else is authorized to pick up your race packet & $20 to park in downtown Seattle on race day), generic dri-fit participant shirt, a pathetic 30 porta potties at the start for 17,000 participants, local cover bands at every other mile marker whose music more-so made me want to jump off a bridge than feel inspired to run 26.2 miles, a less than scenic course, and to add salt to the wound...an uphill finish line. To top it off, the unknown headliner band at the finish only had two people (non-race participants) cheering them on. Bottom line, I don't intend on participating in future Rock 'n' Roll Marathon Series events any time soon.
By: Molly B.
Posted: September 16, 2012
First time I felt a course was actually dangerous
Pros:
Expo - the flow and organization of the expo was excellent. Lots of vendors and space. Usually I like to get in, grab my number and shirt, and leave ASAP but I actually stuck around and had fun at this one.
Spectators - lots of cheering, music, and fun along the way. It was amazing.
Water stations - more than adequate. Never got to the point where I was dying for the next water stop, which is exactly how it should be.
Cons:
Course - I like a few hills in my races, but the ones in this race were flat out dangerous. After Rainier Ave, it's just a wall of hill and it's just as steep coming back down. Everyone had to tip toe down so as not to slip. Then when we had to run on I-90 I felt like I was choking on the exhaust fumes in the tunnel. There were also a few freeway overpasses we had to run on that did not have nearly enough railing to ease my acrophobia.
Port-o-potties - they were organized so people had to wait for individual stalls. So if you're unlucky like me and got in a line where everyone was taking their time, you didn't get to use the bathroom at all (I waited 45 minutes and hardly moved). They should have had at least a couple volunteers organizing lines for groups of stalls. Or a couple really long lines for all the stalls.
Bag Check - the bag check was no where near the start or finish line. After not being able to use the bathroom, I literally had to sprint to get to this place to make my corral. It was ridiculous. And then when the race was over, you had to walk up a hill to the opposite end of the Seattle Center to get your stuff (and considering this is after 13.1 or 26.2 miles, really not an easy thing to do).
By: Renee C.
Posted: September 04, 2012
New course terrible!
I have ran this 1/2 marathon every year & was so excited when they changed to an out & back course & did away with the shuttles to the start. Unfortunately, I was sadly disappointed by the course selection however. Even though the original course had some dead areas I'll call them, I much preferred that to the new course. The beginning was nice & no issues there, but once you leave downtown you're on Rainier Ave for awhile, which isn't exactly the nicest part of town.
That wasn't the worst of it though. There was a long treacherous hill (Dakota, I think) that was just downright dangerous. It wasn't the uphill that was the scary part, but the downhill. The hill was so steep that everyone around me was shuffling baby steps down the whole thing just to keep from taking a header. Fortunately, I was in the middle, so I was there before it started to rain, because if the pavement were wet lord knows how many people would have bit it. They need to find some other way to cut over to LWB, becausse this was just stupid. The other thing I disliked was the miles on LWB were shortened from years past. Everyone I've spoken with who has ran this said the same thing, that the LWB miles were the most scenic & enjoyable part. I won't complain about the I-90 tunnel as you really don't have many other options there, but coming back to the Center we went through yet another tunnel (Battery Tunnel), which was musty, dark & dreary. This was another poor choice in my opinion.
Last item I'll bark about is the crappy finish. Uphill on Mercer Street, come on! At least give us a fast finish. I have ran the Seattle Marathon 7-8 times & am pretty tired of this same stretch of finish. I hope they re-think the finish & eliminate Battery Tunnel & Mercer to give us a more scenic & fast finish. I'm all for a challenging course, but these negatives took the enjoyment out of this race, and unless the course is altered I likely won't run this again. I think a start/finish Queste Field would be awesome & give this something a bit different than the Seattle Marathon in November.
By: David B.
Posted: July 29, 2012
Fun first time course. Lots of hills
This was my first marathon that I ran. There were many hills and a hill at mile marker 26. I cramped up at the end because I had water and cytomax at each fill station.
By: Craig Olson
Posted: July 04, 2012
Great logistics on new course...More challenging?
I've run all four Seattle RNR Half Marathons and was excited to see how the new course would play out. I liked the logistics a lot compared to the point to point start and finish from the previous three races. Everything from good access to porta potties to the UPS gear check (yah!). IN addition, the coral system they use at the start is really cool. You basically go out every two minutes based on your predicted time submitted when you sign up. The Seattle Center/Space Needle is a great start and stop location as well.
The course itself seemed harder to me although on paper I was not expecting it to be. I'm far from elite but had been in the 1:38 range on the prior three races and this time was 1:42. Still can't tell if it was NOT my day or others felt the new course was more challenging as well? (any feedback here from others would be appreciated).
The hills on the 2nd part of the course were larger and longer than I anticipated. Lots of water and energy drink stations which helped that part.
I was on pace for a 1:38 the first 6 miles but then it kind of fell apart but was still happy to be part of this race. Great fan support and it didn't rain (I'm a Seattle native so this is a good thing). I'm not a morning person so the 7am start was/is an early one for me. Also too early to take a bus downtown so driving was required. Cheers!
By: Stuart Wilson
Posted: July 01, 2012
General Comments
I am a novice runner, but I enjoy traveling to different cities and indulge in the marathon experience. This is my 5th marathon, others being Denver, Disney, Nashville, Hartford.
I thought this was a beautiful course up until the 15th mile which then turned into an out and back along an expressway! For about 6/7 miles there was little to no crowd support and the only entertainment was a couple of DJs in the tunnels.
The course had a few challenging hills, but considering the location, it could have been worse.
The start staggering also eliminated most of the congestion I have experienced at other marathons. (even those with staggered starts)
My largest complaint (and this also occurred in the Denver Marathon 2010), but mile 15, according to my GPS ran 1.23 miles long. I understand the length of a marathon will be longer than 26.2 miles since I cannot follow the tangent due to congestion, but I certainly expect the route to be marked appropriately. I usually expect about an extra 1/4 but this marathon was near a 1/2 mile long. The tunnels of course caused my watch to lose signal but after the signal was established the GPS calculated the straight line distance between entering and existing the tunnels. All miles according to my GPS were in line with what I expected with the exception of Mile 15. It is frustrating to pay the fees associated with the race and they cannot seem to get the race course marked appropriately.
I will be shying away from R/R marathons for the next few to see I if there are better experiences.
By: Heidi Neuffer
Posted: June 27, 2012
My first ever marathon, loved Seattle experience!
My first marathon EVER, 2nd race ever (1st was a 1/2 marathon) and it was SO fun! Hard course, but fun! (of course, it was 26.2 miles..nothing easy about that...) The cheering crowd was AMAZING and very encouraging! Outside of the tunnel where we had to run on a sideways incline, it was wonderful. I LOVED the lake and views of the city!! The water breaks & PP's were perfectly placed, (my first race, I was worried about this!) the last hills were very hard and I wanted to walk, but didn't, knowing the same great people would be there to help me afterward. And I was right! I had to visit the medic tent for a bad blister and they were so kind and caring. Thank you to all who make these races possible...couldn't have had a better 'first race' experience!! I'll be back! (and I qualified for Boston, so that made me even happier!)
By: Karl L.
Posted: June 26, 2012
New and improved course
I ran the inaugural Rock 'n' Roll Seattle in 2009 and had a great race experience. I came back this year when they announced a new course. The new route is loop course with more hills. Even though it's harder, it is an improvement over the old course.
The Seattle Center is a great race venue and was very accommodating to runners. They opened the Center House prior to the race so runners were able to stay warm and dry. They even had an open Starbucks stand inside where I was able to buy my morning cup of coffee. The Seattle Center is close to downtown hotels and is easily accessible.
The new course runs through downtown. It has some scenic sections although Lake Washington is the nicest part of the course. Marathoners and half marathoners were separated from each other along the route - nice touch.
Course support was very good. The volunteers at the water stations were great. There were plenty of bands and cheer squads to keep us entertained.
The finish area was organized and efficient. It was a bit crowded when the bulk of the half marathoners finished, but it cleared out by the time marathoners arrived.
No one can control the weather, and this year it rained leading up to the race. It stopped raining by race time, but the humidity was noticeable.
Overall I enjoyed this race. Definitely recommended.
By: Lit O.
Posted: June 25, 2012
Good race in a great city
It was my first time to run this race and I found it challenging but good. They debuted a new course in 2012 and miles 6-13 featured the beautiful Lake Washington and Seward Park. There were more hills than I expected and a couple of them in the last 3 miles were killers! But the race organization was top notch, the volunteers at the aid stations were excellent and the weather at this time of the year is typically excellent. On top of that, the Expo is fantastic with a real 'big race' feel to it. Starting and ending in Seattle Center is very convenient.
One bit of advice, waves are released at the the start in approximately 1-min intervals. So if you belong to a wave in the back (there were over 30 waves), then take your time getting to the race which starts at 7am. I was in wave 29, got there before 6am, and felt that a 90-min wait before gun start was tiring on the legs. You're better off relaxing and lining up for the porta potties as the first few waves go off and then just join your wave as they near the start line.
Overall, this is a very good race to join... good race in a great city. So the trip is more than worthwhile. Really good restaurants in downtown Seattle too so lots of excellent choices for a post marathon dinner!
By: Irish Jalex
Posted: April 11, 2012
Great Run, Beware the Out-and-Back
The Rock 'n Roll Series has gotten their race process down to a science. The expo was extensive and well-organized, with an easy flow through packet pick-up and a wide variety of options.
The course was well-supported with great spectator support when it could be there. There were many sections of out-and-back and highway miles which could not allow for crowds, but I wouldn't trade the view on the bridge for anything. Pretty nasty hill in the last couple miles, but it seems like every course has one of those.
My one big complaint was the post-race. They ran out of blankets quickly (I finished in 3:12 and went without), and the beer garden line took half an hour. Other than that, great weather, great course, great race.
By: Robin D.
Posted: July 11, 2011
It's obvious RNR is in it for the money.
I have run several Rock and Roll events over the past 3 years and it's more and more obvious they are cutting runner amenities to put more money in their pockets. I've seen their race entry costs go up while shirts remain unisex and uncreative. They add more premium options like private port a potties and VIP shuttles for added costs. Now they've cut back on the Cytomax handed out on the course to every other or every third waterstop.
I will go out of my way to AVOID Rock and Roll events unless they do a couple little things to show me they care about runners as much as their bottom line.
By: billy c.
Posted: July 07, 2011
Great City and organization but course was fair
Big time Rock n Roll Marathon. Organization was good and support excellent. Bands good.
Course was poor. I think they did the best they could given the limitations. I mean no one would have wanted to run in-town with the hills. So we were running along the edge of town with out and backs and concrete. The hills around 17-19 were not good.In addition, there were a few mile markers which were miss marked. Ordinarily not a big problem, unless you are using them to track your pace especially toward the end.
By: Bill Z.
Posted: July 03, 2011
Great weather and organization
Loved the city.
Organization was great. Can't imagine why ever marathon does not do a wave start. Pick up was easy, expo large. Water and cytomax stations well manned. Plenty of porta potties on course.
Bands were okay, loved the cheerleaders along the course.
A little too much concrete surface. And miles 23.5 to 23.5 go past the finish area on and out and back. Hate that design.
By: Tyson Poskochil
Posted: July 03, 2011
RnR Seattle Rocks!
This is an overall fun race and is an ideal setting for a first-time marathoner due to the hype and excitement surrounding it. The course is a diverse set of urban surroundings, and it didn't seem like there was dull moment at any point in the race, as I enjoyed taking in all the scenery.
Race is somewhat organized but has much room for improvement. Busing started at 4 a.m. to Tukwila and was supposed to run until 6 a.m. to get everyone there for a 7 a.m. start. However the pick-up location was small and a lot of people were over-spilled into the streets and impeding traffic as a result. When buses did arrive, there were mad rushes to them by everyone in an attempt to obtain a seat, and I'm sure there were very few who showed up in the first hour versus the last hour to board. This needs to be re-evaluated for the next time around.
Due to the high number of runners, you are corralled and will have a stagnated start. I was in the 22nd, and it took 34 minutes from the gun before I began.
For the volume of runners, however, the aid stations and water stops are well-equipped, and volunteer and police presence is outstanding throughout. Bands are also numerous, which is fitting and enjoyable, and plenty of good eats and drinks are available at the end. A fun race to run but still in need of a few small improvements.
By: Loretta M.
Posted: July 02, 2011
Awsome marathon
This was my 6th marathon. The organization was incredible. The buses downtown to quest field were on time and plenty of them. At the start of the race the corals were well organized and ran smoothly, Before the race there was food for runners. The course was amazing, well stocked with water, cytomax and gels. My two favorite spots were running along lake Washington and running thought downtown Seattle. The race ended at quest field.
Awesome marathon the organization was amazing.
By: Jared j.
Posted: July 01, 2011
Second half sucks, but great city
Liked:
-Shuttle system to start line (thankfully shuttles ran past 6 AM due to traffic delays)
-1st half course and scenery
-Energy while running through tunnels
-Medal was nice
Didn't like:
-If you took the freeway exit by the parking garage, you were in traffic for 45 minutes, and people were pissed!
-Support on course left me wanting, only noticed two of the GU gel packs. Asked the medical tent for a snack, but their gigantic tray of muffins/veggies/pretzels were for volunteers only. Never offered a sponge (to wipe drying sweat)like was in the other RnR I ran
-Bands were often not playing,
-Second half of course had relentless down and back turns, one of which seemed to be uphill both ways ;)
By: Bill B.
Posted: June 30, 2011
Great Course
Unlike others, I really liked the three out and backs on this course as it helped me to break this run into manageable segments. There was a lot of concrete so those with knee issues, beware. I loved the hills which were fair-even the hill at Mile 25. My favorite section was along Lake Washington. The tribute to fallen servicemen and women was amazingly moving. This course was designed to limit the impact on the non-running public while still providing a scenic and challenging run. Public support was luke warm, except for the neighborhood around Lake Washington, but the aid stations were very well run. Perfect weather. Nice short sleeve shirt and medal. If I lived closer, I would definitely run this again.
By: heather k.
Posted: June 29, 2011
Seattle is BREATHTAKING!
This was my 13th marathon and my first in Seattle. I was so impressed by the course (there was so much variety in the scenery). The spectators were awesome, the aid stations were well placed, and the tribute to the fallen soldiers was moving. My only small complaint was that the line to get on the shuttles to the start line was crazy long. I arrived as suggested at 5 am and made it to coral 5 about 10 minutes before the race started and the line behind me to board the shuttle was several city blocks long!
By: Keith FitzPatrick
Posted: June 29, 2011
One-and-done
As with every Rock-n-Roll event I have run, the organization of this event was very good. We did not have any trouble getting a shuttle to the start and once we got to the start, there were plenty of food, water and restroom facilities. Support on the course was also very good. The only down side to support on the course was that the bands started packing it in early. My wife and I were running close to a 4:30 pace for 2/3s of the race, and while that is not fast, it is about the average time for a recreational marathoner. The bands should not have been packing up so early in the race. Those bands that we did hear were great.
Let me talk about the course for a minute. I have run 8 marathons and this was by far the worst course I have come across. The last half of the marathon consisted of miles and miles of mind numbing, soul sucking, out-and-backs with little to no crowd supports. (Hard to get crowd support when running on controlled access highways instead of neighborhood streets.) This is definitely a one-and-done event for me.
By: Molly R.
Posted: June 29, 2011
Good, but hilly
Overall, I enjoyed the marathon, but I would not recommend the full. I should've known when there were only 3500 marathoners compared to over 17000 half marathoners... The first half of the marathon was very scenic and beautiful, but the steep uphills, followed by killer downhills on the quads were very difficult to manage. In the end, there are several out and backs, which can be discouraging as you see the finish line, but realize that you still have another 5 miles to go. Also, the gradual hill after mile 24 is a little disheartening. Be prepared for some tough hills. The organization was okay and the bands were pretty okay, my garmin showed that I had run 26.54 miles, so I'm not sure if that was just a malfunction or not. Also, this is a VERY difficult spectator race, spectators can't access several of the spots. Overall, much to be desired.
By: Rachit G.
Posted: June 28, 2011
First half was beautiful, second half was crap
This was my first marathon and the Seattle RnR did not impress me enough to come back next year.
Pros:
-First half of the course
-Plenty of hydration stations
-The medal is pretty cool :)
Cons:
-Second half: 3 out-and-backs
-Limited crowd support in 2nd half
-90% of the course is on concrete
-Post-race area was not very impressive
Overall, I would recommend doing the half but not the full.
By: Jen B.
Posted: June 28, 2011
Challenging, but worthwhile!
Seattle is an absolutely beautiful city. This course is not to be taken lightly. The course provides some challenging hills, so be sure to do some hill training. This was my 16th marathon to date, but for this one I followed the Hal Higdon marathon training program and took 17 minutes off of my former PR....and qualified for Boston by over 5 minutes! The first half of the course is much more scenic, but overall was a fantastic experience. The weather was perfect, organization was fantastic, volunteers were enthusiastic....overall a very enjoyable experience! A very good choice for a summer marathon.
By: marcus j.
Posted: June 28, 2011
It was a half marathon with a marathon added as an
First off let me say the people in Seattle were wonderful, everyone associated with the marathon did a wonderful job, but the race had one major flaw. 26,000 runners, 3500 of which were marathoners. A combined start with the halfers, required the corral start and therefore some runners didn't start the race for 45-60 minutes. The half marathon is very popular, fine run a half marathon only or let the marathoners start early. For a marathoner, the start and the first nine miles were a nightmare. By the way, the best spectators rivaling New York and Chicago.
By: George B.
Posted: June 27, 2011
great destination marathon
great destination marathon, seattle is fabulous area, the expo was excellent, marathon was exceptionally well organized, the course was very disappointing, crowd disappointing as well. For such a hip city the people of the area seemed to care nothing about the marathon, very little advertisement. would i go back? yes, to experience more of the area and probably run the marathon again, hoping for changes in the course.
By: Sarah P.
Posted: June 26, 2011
Amazing, Challenging, Fun Marathon!
Usually I dont describe marathons as 'Fun' but Seattle was actually a great time. This was a destination marathon for me so i loved the entire, beautiful course. Running around lake washington and finishing by Qwest field was amazing!!!
There were a few long gradual climbs in the later miles of the marathon, but overall nothing too terrible. The organization, post race music concert, water stops, crowd support, cheerleaders were all excellent.
My only complaint was at a later mile in the race at the water stop where there was ICE in the cytomax cup that I almost choked on.
Other than that amazing race, expo, challenging course was a fun time. Ill probably be back next year!
By: Mike K.
Posted: June 26, 2011
Seattle is beautiful. Why not show it off?
This race has so much potential. Seattle is a beautiful city. The first half was pretty good, which means the half marathon was probably ok. However, the second half of the marathon consisted of three out-and-backs that mostly seemed to highlight Seattle's traffic and tunnels (three of them - all of significant lengths). Good urban marathon courses generally highlight the city's best features. Aside from the stadiums (a loop around either or both field/warning track, like many other races, would have been a huge improvement), this course did not seem to highlight much of anything. The worst part of the race, by far, was the four-mile out-and-back at the end - after passing the finish line. Passing the finish line is bad enough, but that portion of the course was far and away the ugliest part of it. Overall, there were other problems, like outrageous parking fees at the expo, but the course is the first place that organizers need to look for improvements. This race has so much potential, but instead it turned out to be the worst of the 16 marathons I have run.
By: Loren M.
Posted: June 26, 2011
RnR Seattle - a race with a heart
I was looking for a June marathon and decided on Rock 'n' Roll Seattle. It turned out to be a great choice. The 26,000 participants had ideal running weather with perfect start time temperatures in the low-50s. One cool thing about Seattle is that sunrise comes early. It was complete daylight at 5:00 in the morning when I boarded the bus to the start. There was no problem catching an early shuttle to the start, and the start area was one of the better staging areas I've seen. As to be expected from the Competitor Group, race day organization was smooth.
Seattle is a beautiful city, and the course was very scenic. Running along the lake was breathtaking. What makes Rock 'n' Roll Seattle special, though, is that it is a race with heart. I was moved to tears by the tribute for our fallen soldiers. I've never seen anything like this. It was the emotional highlight of my race.
This race had great atmosphere and excellent runner support. There were plenty of bands and cheer squads. Water stations were well staffed by enthusiastic volunteers. The crowds were the heaviest in the downtown area. After leaving downtown, you are running on a highway with hardly any spectators. There is not much shade on this portion of the course, so I was grateful for the cloudy day. There are three out-and-backs that I remember. I loved the first one on the floating bridge. The second one was Aurora Avenue, which is a long uphill grade. By this time, the concrete roads took its toll on my legs, and I started to cramp. A medical volunteer on a bicycle immediately rode up beside me and offered me a salt pack. The last out and back was demoralizing because it's so close to the end and has a hill. Local runners are saying there will be course changes next year. Hopefully, the modified course won't be as tough.
Seattle was a good overall race experience. I would recommend this race.
By: Mick Whitehead
Posted: February 05, 2011
Challenging, Picturesque, Worthwhile
This was the second Rock 'n' Roll Seattle Marathon, and I thought it ran a little smoother than the first year. After the full and half marathoners split, there was no crossing of the two segments again, which made the run less congested.
The 2010 weather was more seasonal (lower temperature, more clouds, no view of the Olympic Mountains or Mt. Rainer), but better running conditions than 2009. Still plenty to see and enjoy, and the bands once again were fantastic. Tough pull in the second half, so make sure you do hill training in preparation for the race.
One last note: A majority of the second half of the race occurs on the (closed to vehicular traffic) Alaskan Way viaduct, which offers superb views of downtown, Elliott Bay and the ferry/cruise ship terminals, and the Olympics (weather permitting). It's the toughest, but one of the best parts of the course. Plans are in the works, however, to replace the Alaskan Way viaduct with a tunnel, which will result in the demolition of the viaduct. Things in Seattle move slowly, but one should plan on running this marathon within the next few years to take advantage of the unique setting the viaduct offers.
By: Matt K.
Posted: September 04, 2010
This race is not for whiners
If you're going to run Rock 'n' Roll Seattle, be prepared to run on concrete, run out-and-backs and run in a crowd. Running a marathon was not meant to be easy, but the race organizers did their best to support the marathoners with outstanding course support. The bands and cheer squads did their best to make it fun.
By: Guillermo R.
Posted: August 20, 2010
Okay... but mucho to be desired!
I've run my share of marathons (24 to date), but man, I've never run on as much concrete as I did for this marathon.... It was brutal. I thought the organization was good, but this course needs major improvement. Two-thirds of this marathon is run on highways and overpasses (concrete, mind you). Apart from that, the volunteers were terrific and spectators too. Nice medal and technical tee.
I wouldn't recommend it....
By: Preston P.
Posted: July 11, 2010
I will run again, but changes would be good
This was my first Rock and Roll Marathon and my 16th overall. The organization was great - including registration, correspondence with people via email before the race, web information, expo, race day events, and post race. I like point-to-point courses and think they handled the transportation well. I caught a bus at 5 and was at the start of the race by 5:30. I appreciated the water, fruit and bagel. Bag-drop was great. They were very clear that the bag-drop vehicles were leaving at 7 and it sounds like some people missed the bag-drop. Lines to the portables were short - less than 10 minutes. I like the starting corrals, but wouldn't if I were in the back part of the race. I wonder if there is a way to have a dual start - two parallel roads that merge after two or three miles, or something that allows the walkers/slower runners to get start sooner. Or different starting spots for marathon/half marathon. I found the bands, fans, and water stations to be great. The out-and-back nature along the viaduct over the Aurora Bridge was a little sparse in fans - and I am not sure it was the most scenic. I, like others, was totally heartbroken when I realized that there was a hill coming at mile 25.
I found post-race stuff to be fine - but I am not a high-maintenance person. I met family and then headed back to the hot tub at the hotel. (Met great people from Montana and Bellingham, WA at the hot tub!) I did set a PR on the Seattle course by 6 minutes. I liked meeting Scott Jurek - WOW - at the expo. I plan on returning next year. I don't really like the green race shirt, but I really like the two shirts I bought when I registered - gray technical and black long-sleeve.
By: Doris M.
Posted: July 05, 2010
R'n'R Seattle is a fun, summer marathon
I was able to enter the Rock 'n' Roll Seattle even though it had sold out. Extra spaces were opened to runners of the Country Music Marathon, an earlier race that was cut short by bad weather. I was able to complete my first marathon here at this fabulous race. This race is so well organized that it's hard to believe that it is only two years-old. The race organizers really paid attention to every detail.
Needless to say, the weather was much better than Nashville. In fact, it was ideal running weather. A few long and relentless hills make this a tough course, but there are many scenic sections to enjoy. Running along Lake Washington was eye-poppingly beautiful. Seattle in general is so beautifully green.
Even though there were 27,000 runners, excellent organization and fantastic volunteer support made for a smooth race day experience. The race started on time, and the wave start worked efficiently. The Start Line Village was spacious and had hundreds of porta-potties.
Here's a tip: The porta-potties along Interurban Avenue had very long lines; but if you followed the line of porta-potties to the very last corral (#39), the lines were much shorter. Instead of waiting for a half-hour or more, the line at the last corral was about 10 minutes.
The Rock 'n' Roll Marathon is about the bands along the course. There were plenty of bands, and they joined in the fun. A shout-out to the two band members who were singing in the street and gave me a low-five. The numerous cheer squads added to the fun atmosphere. Course support was excellent, and the volunteers were enthusiastic. Spectators along the lake and in downtown were great.
The headliner concert was part of the Finish Line Festival at Qwest Field. It was a great way to celebrate and enjoy even more music. This was my first visit to Seattle, and I will definitely be back.
By: James M.
Posted: July 03, 2010
Great Race; Needs a Couple Tweaks
This is a fine race with a lot of positives, and room for a couple of improvements.
Course: This is neither a positve nor a negative, but I will say that this was among the hilliest of my 16 marathons, with a few long, gradual climbs and a couple of steep declines. That said, Tukwila was a nice place to start, and the run along Lake Washington and over the floating bridge is beautiful. Downtown, the tunnels, the out-and-back to the north, and the viaduct along the water were all nice. But they really need to eliminate the 3 mile out-and-back at the end. Couldn't we go to Mercer Island or through a park to make up the difference? The concrete, which is plentiful, especially toward the end, really gets to you, and the final hill is demoralizing... you head down it at 23 knowing you'll have to come back up at 25. This is, in my opinion, the biggest area for improvement.
Organization: This race is extremely well organized. The expo is huge, and filled with great deals. Packet pick-up is a breeze. And we left with so many freebies that I was afraid I'd have to check another bag on our flight home. The shuttle to the start is well orgainized, but get there early. (We arrived at 4 and got on the first bus; would not want to be there at 5:30, though.) The start area is great - tons of bagels, fruit, and Cytomax, which is nice when you arrive at the start 2.5 hours early. The aid stations go on forever and are well stocked. One suggestion: why charge for runner tracking? I have never been to a race that does this. Complementary tracking makes for happier runners and family members.
Fans: I will count the volunteers in this category - they are plentiful, enthusiastic, and well prepared. The bands are great, but my wife said they stopped playing by the time the later runners passed through. I felt as though there were lots of fans throughout, except for the viaduct at the end.
One other point: while it is great to stay downtown near the finish, there are a lot of good hotels nearer the start that will save you a ton of money. At least one in Tukwila offered a shuttle to the start. We stayed at TownePlace Suites in Renton for about half the price of downtown; it was quiet and they even opened the door to the continental breakfast early on race morning.
Seattle is a great destination with lots to do and see. You'll enjoy the experience.
By: Steve K.
Posted: July 02, 2010
Poor course and scenery for Seattle
This marathon course, especially being in a scenic city like Seattle, was very poorly planned. It was run mostly on concrete, and with a lot of out-and-back on the same roads and bridges. The runners around me were even commenting on how much better the asphalt felt the few times we were running on it. Seattle is a very scenic city, but the race didn't feature many of the best sites. The finish area was only adequate and organization poor, as few announcements were made and volunteers were not handy for information.
By: A. R.
Posted: July 02, 2010
Quality event... just fix the mile markers
I'll admit to being a bit surprised at the number of negative comments. Sure, the second half of the course was a bit dull, but I'm sure the organizers were trying to create a moderate course without too many nasty hills. To that end, they succeeded, but at the expense of "scenery."
In terms of organization, I found no issues. Expo was large and packet pickup was relatively trouble-free. Shirt was nothing to write home about, but the green will add a touch of color to the running wardrobe. Unlike others, I had no issues with the shuttles. I walked right up, got on the bus and we were off!
The first half of the course was quite scenic (and fairly flat), running next to Lake Washington. Crossing the I-90 bridge was a treat, offering great views of Bellevue and points east. Second half comprised a bunch of out-and-backs on WA 99, a state highway where they closed the Alaskan Way Viaduct downtown for us - impressive! Traffic control was top notch. Aid stations were numerous and well stocked.
If I had to complain, many of the mile markers were off by a significant degree. Also, the post-race food was somewhat lacking (bananas, some granola bars, that's about it). The medal had a nice Seattle-oriented theme (coffee and mountains). The lack of spectators for an event of this size was a bit surprising.
Overall, a quality event that I would recommend to others. A late June marathon is chancy no matter where in the Northern hemisphere it's staged, but the lack of other options at this time of year makes this race an attractive option.
By: Linda F.
Posted: July 02, 2010
Could do better, Seattle
Pros:
Hills are not too bad
Aids stations were plentiful and enthusiastic
Pretty medal
Cons:
Too many out-and-backs for marathoners
Not as scenic a course as it could be
Baggage drop left way too early (we were still waiting in the hour-long port-o-let line).
Port-o-lets were not available at the finish until after leaving the secure area.
Bands every mile were advertised but that was not the case.
I would not do this one again.
By: Thomas H.
Posted: June 30, 2010
Very disappointing for a large event
The transportation to the starting line was a mess. No organization at all. The course was mostly concrete and crowd support was very limited.
By: Jen R.
Posted: June 30, 2010
Great "hilly" course!
Great course - the hills were frequent, but manageable. Only complaint about the course is the final out-and-back, where we practically ran past the finish line for the final few miles and back. The runners' chute at the finish had fewer spectators than expected. Beautiful weather, great volunteer support (LOVE the way the water stations were set up!), well organized race, nice expo, and great running weather (no rain!). Overall, a great race!
By: brigitt h.
Posted: June 30, 2010
Unfortunate course, great organization
The expo and start area were great. I was fortunate enough to gain entry to the VIP porta-potties - they're really nice.
I'm not a fan of the Rock 'n' Roll race starts. Each corral starting a few minutes after the prior corral, makes a long wait for those of us who aren't too fast. I started at least 45 minutes after the race was scheduled to begin.
The course itself was hilly, which is understandable in Seattle. The out-and-backs were miserable. By the final 5 miles or so, after running past Qwest Field, the out-and-back almost broke me. There were 3 out-and-backs for the entire race. Far too many for a marathon.
The aid stations were well stocked, the cheerleaders and bands were full of energy, and the spectators were lively and loud.
Compared to other Rock 'n' Roll races, this one was sub-par in regard to the shirt and medal.
By: BIll G.
Posted: June 29, 2010
Enjoyed the Race
My wife and I flew into Seattle to run as part of our 50 state quest. Expo was large and well organized - typical of these R'n'R events. We jumped on the North shuttle a little after 5 a.m. and got to the start area in about 20 minutes. No lines for toilets. I was in corral 5 and the wave start was fine.
Course was just "okay" for me. I could have done with less concrete, but views of the water were nice. Out-and-backs were okay, but it takes mental toughness to handle them. Coming from CT, I would have thought that the organizers would have found a better route to showcase Seattle better (trainyard at the end could have been skipped).
I found the course splitting the half marathoners from the full to be fine - I was worried, as there were a lot of negative comments about this last year.
As with most big marathons, post-race food was bleh.... I would think that 28,000 people paying about $100 or more would allow some more food choices than the VERY basic items they did have.
By: Kevin L.
Posted: June 28, 2010
Great weather - terrible wave start
Pros:
1) Great expo with lots of booths and free samples. Also got autographs and my picture taken with Meb Keflezighi and Brian Sell!
2) Course aid stations were well stocked and the volunteers enthusiastic. Also, it was nice to have GU at miles 7 and 20.
3) Miles 6-10 around Lake Washington were beautiful.
4) Shuttle bus service to the start was well organized.
5) I actually like the emerald green Brooks technical shirts. It would have been nice to have separate shirts for the full and half-marathon.
6) Free beer at the finish and decent amount of food/drinks.
Cons:
1) Wave start was terrible. Somehow I was assigned corral 26, even though I had put an estimated finishing time of 4 hours. It took 41 minutes before my corral started the race! I've never had to wait that long to start any race (including the NYC Marathon). The wave start didn't help with congestion, as it was already congested before mile 1.
2) The course could be improved upon. The out-and-back portions on Highway 99 meant few spectators, and not much scenery. The last hill after mile 25 is cruel and unusual punishment. It would have been nice to run through more of Seattle's neighborhoods rather than on highways and through highway tunnels.
Overall, a well organized race by the R'n'R folks, but the wave start really needs to be changed. How about implementing separate starting times so that people don't have to stand around in their corrals for 40+ minutes after the official start!
By: Susan M.
Posted: June 28, 2010
Great organization, poor course
This race course was disappointing. The course had far too much concrete, and too many overpasses, off-ramps, etc. Through the park along the water was very nice for a few miles, but the rest lacked imagination. The traffic tunnel was awful, noisy, and airless, and the music playing echoed through the tunnel and off of the walls and was deafening. The only plus is that it made me run faster just to get out of there, and it had to be three quarters of a mile. The organization was superb, as was the expo. Food was not good: a dry bagel, 1 banana, 1 slice of orange, a cheap bar and chips. I love Seattle, but there were not many fans for this event. I would do it again if they improve the course. I did the half and was glad I had not done the full, as that much concrete would have done in my feet and legs.
By: Kay C.
Posted: June 28, 2010
Lots of out/back, and 5 straight miles uphill
The course could be improved - there was lots of running through average suburban areas with little to no beautiful Washington scenery. The multiple out-and-backs got annoying, especially when we passed the finish line and had to loop out and come back to it. The constant uphill from mile 13-18 was tough, as was the one from 24-25 (which was on the top of the viaduct), with no fan support, bands or anything to look at. I agree with others that the Rock 'n' Roll shirts are ugly, as are the medals.
By: Raq M.
Posted: June 27, 2010
Tough, scenic course!
Ok, so this was my second time running Seattle R 'n' R. I ran the full last year and had the WORST time ever with those terrible out-and-backs. The cambered roads killed my ankles and knees. I opted for the half this year, and despite the few random hills, I thought it was a good course!
Race coordinators need to monitor/guide those folks who insist on forming a single line for a set of 15 porta-potties. I took it upon myself and started an additional line because no one would! Those single lines caused an enormous back up, which is exactly why some people waited in lines for an hour!
By: Dale Fiorillo
Posted: June 27, 2010
Seattle's best, but room for improvement.
Porta-potty sites were unknown. UPS trucks left WAY too soon, so I had to carry my expensive coat. Awesome water stops. Average shirt. Signs good. Super expo. Course assistance and control were perfect. Spectators: give me a break; who runs for applause? After a dozen runs, I must be getting jaded, but this was a good event with a few correctable situations.
By: Barb L.
Posted: June 27, 2010
Disappointing Course with Several Out-and-Backs
Being from Seattle, I knew there were going to be hills, which there were, but they weren't as bad as they could have been. The 3 locations where you go out a few miles and then turn around at a point were really annoying. The last 4 miles of the marathon were the worst; you passed the finish line and had to run out to a point and go up a hill at mile 24 through 25 - in an industrial area, with little to look at.
Very little crowd support for the marathon. The bands were average, but were more for the half marathon anyway. The full got mostly high school cheerleaders from mile 15 on.
Disappointing race.
By: kim h.
Posted: June 26, 2010
Ugliest shirts and long lines for the porta-potty!
These were the ugliest t-shirts I've seen, plus they were all men's shirts. Had I known, I would have ordered an extra-small. But even then, I'm not sure if I would have worn them. I usually love my race shirts and look forward to collecting them. What a letdown. And then those porta-potties - I waited for almost an hour in line and almost missed my starting line. The course was nice and the weather was great. The bands and the cheerleaders were great.
By: Jane S.
Posted: June 17, 2010
Pretty city; unattractive course
With all of the scenic routes they could incorporate, they missed the boat. Only redeeming part was along Lake Washington Boulevard and I-90. The start was not accessible at all. We carpooled, but traffic wouldn't allow us to make it to the start, so we had to run from the freeway to the start. A new start location would be helpful, and tweaking of the course - especially the out-and-back at the end - because it was very unattractive.
By: Dana M.
Posted: June 13, 2010
A top-flight marathon
The 2009 Rock 'n' Roll Seattle Marathon was one of the best marathons I've run. It ranks right up there with Boston, NYC and Twin Cities. Excellent organization for an inaugural event. Great start line and finish area. The expo was the typical R 'n' R expo, but next time I would go there by bus or taxi. It was too difficult to drive and park at the expo hall. I would have like to have gone to the post-race concert, but the venue was located far away.
The weather was spectacular, and the point-to-point course was scenic. Somehow I missed seeing the Space Needle during the run, although other runners told me we ran by it twice going up and down Aurora Avenue. The last out-and-back was mentally tough. It required running past the exit ramp to the finish line.
Overall, a great race experience. Definitely recommended.
By: Mick Whitehead
Posted: January 11, 2010
Challenging, Scenic, Well-Run Race
The inaugural Seattle Rock 'n' Roll Marathon was the well-run event one would expect from the company that puts these races on nationally. Many cheerful volunteers at check-in and along the course, a good number of toilets at the start, lots of water/Gatorade locations and plenty of entertainment on the entire course. The Seattle setting did not disappoint, with the beautiful views of Mt. Rainer, Lake Washington, the Olympic Mountains and Puget Sound, the downtown area, and the many enthusiastic spectators throughout the course.
The route itself is a good, safe one (few major street crossings) through a big city, with the many scenic highlights already mentioned. It's a tough pull the last third of the course, but it makes it that much sweeter to finish.
I don't normally run races in the summer, or repeat them, but since it is a "local" race for me, the temps are generally moderate (on race day it was slightly warmer than usual so hydration was important) and I really did like the challenging course, I'd run it again.
By: rural g.
Posted: December 07, 2009
Very Efficient Aid Stations
This is a fun summertime destination marathon if you want somewhere to go. The course was nice, except for those last few miles where you run past the Qwest stadium (finish) and see everyone else heading in as you run away from it.
I was impressed with the efficient organization of the aid stations. The gels were provided a few hundred meters before the water stations, so you had your hands free to suck gel, then got liquid to wash it down with. Why can't other marathons do that? Also, the volunteers had rakes to get the smashed cups out of the way of the runners. The aid stations were on both sides of the course and stretched forever; after I figured this out, I knew I didn't have to rush to the sides to get a drink, and the flow of the race was barely interrupted. In a big race, that's saying something!
By: Jill O.
Posted: August 09, 2009
fun inaugural run
+ Weather was great.
+ It was clear enough that you could see Mt. Rainer! It was beautiful while we were running down the highway/bridge thing toward Bellevue.
+ Rock 'n' roll! I enjoyed listening to the music, especially the cute kid who set up his own little amp outside his parents' house and was rockin' out.
+ Good water/hydration stops.
+ Awesome t-shirt/expo, with all kinds of free stuff (who doesn't like free stuff?).
- Lots of out-and-back running, where you see everyone on the highway. I prefer loop courses because I like to feel like I'm going somewhere new instead of seeing the same thing.
- Not too many people cheering you on, especially on the highway sections, which there are a lot of (perhaps more people will be out to cheer on runners in future years since this was the inaugural race?).
- No music during much of the first 10 miles, because it's through a residential area.
- It was hard to coordinate where to get picked up at the end, and there was lots of traffic (I had a wedding I needed to get to at 1 p.m. after the marathon).
Overall, it was quite enjoyable. I love running and talking with fellow runners, but I love running in general. I made it to the wedding on time (I got ready with 5-minute shower, a quick change, and a jump back into the car). I'd recommend it.
By: Kevin L.
Posted: August 01, 2009
The Best Summertime Marathon Around!
Summertime marathons are hard to find, but Rock 'n' Roll Seattle is a great one. I think it was the anticipation of a new marathon, the natural beauty of Seattle, and the flawless organization that combined to produce one of the best running experiences I've ever had. This race left me with such a genuinely good feeling that I can't wait to come back.
As other reviews have noted, the race isn't perfect. The last 10 miles of the marathon essentially constitute a giant out-and-back on a highway. The concrete road surface will leave your feet very sore. The number of bands and cheerleaders were sparse after you left downtown.
However, I am tired of complaints from people who enter a big race and expect small-race conveniences. For example, anytime there is a shuttle to the start in a mega-marathon, don't wait until the last hour to board or else you will get stuck in a long line or a traffic jam. This point was repeatedly emphasized in the pre-race instructions and newsletters. We arrived early enough (4:45 a.m.), rode right to the start, found a comfortable place to sit, used the porta-potties and waited for the race to begin. Less than an hour later, a huge traffic jam developed, created by all of the cars dropping people off. Also, when you arrive at the start, do not go to the first porta-potties you see. There will be huge lines. If people walked around to the corrals, they would have seen a couple of hundred porta-potties with much shorter lines.
By: Chris K.
Posted: July 16, 2009
Good for inaugural event - but needs improvement
The expo and race were fairly well organized for an inaugural event. Two areas for improvement: !. Running the half and full together made the course very crowded, despite the wave start. As a "full" runner, I was dodging around the "half" runners, who were rather large and tended to run together in a line across the width of the street. The other area for improvement was the proportion of the course on the freeway. And please, please, change the last 1-2 miles so that runners don't have to face the psychological factor of running past the freeway exit to the finish area and having to run an extra mile before actually being able to exit to the finish, and running mile 25 uphill.
On the positive side, Seattle is a beautiful city.
By: Nora S.
Posted: July 13, 2009
My favorite Rock 'n Roll
Every once in awhile, a race comes together so perfectly that you feel luck to have been there. Rock 'n Roll Seattle had one of those days.
There was so much energy on race-day. The bands were great. The cheerleaders were especially enthusiastic. The fans in downtown were raucous. The weather was perfect, and the course was beautiful. I would have been perfectly satisfied with the gorgeous view of Mt. Rainier and Lake Washington, but to see a bald eagle on the course was over the top.
This event was very well organized. Course support was outstanding; thank you, volunteers! I've been running the Rock 'n Roll races for nearly 10 years, and Seattle ranks as the best.
By: Starrla J.
Posted: July 13, 2009
Decent for an inaugural race, but not impressed
I have not run a Rock N' Roll marathon before and thought I would give it a try since it was in my home town. Getting to the race was a nightmare. We were stuck in traffic and you could hear the start of race while we were still on the bus. As soon as we stepped off the bus, a volunteer told me I had to check my bag because it was closing in 3 minutes. Seeing as there were thousands of people behind us still trapped in buses, I did not need to check my bag immediately.
The course was pretty in the first several miles, but after that it became forgettable. Running on the floating bridge was nice, but merging with the half marathoners was terrible. No matter what your speed, you are merging with someone 3 miles slower than your pace. The road at the end of the 1/2 marathon has some wicked camber making running uncomfortable.
The course goes up Aurora Avenue with a lot of gradual uphill running. During these miles, the hills were a little challenging (but manageable). It's a nice area for families to see their runners since it is an out-and-back. I was disappointed the bands were not really playing at this point. I don't know if this is common, but it the bands aren't playing, then why run a Rock N' Roll? I'm a 4:15 marathoner, which I consider solidly in the middle of the pack, so was surprised that the bands stopped early or took long breaks. The band that did play was awesome and rejuvenated my spirits. Thanks, guys!
There was plenty of water available on the course and a couple of gel stops with options of flavors available. The post-race spread was good, with chips, bananas, bagels, granola bars and other things I'm sure I've forgotten. The technical T-shirts are nice as well as the medals. I love that the shirts and medals are different depending on if you ran the full or the half.
The fans are not great. They mostly stand there, doing little to no cheering. For an active city with lots of runners and outdoor enthusiasts I thought they would be more supportive.
For an inaugural race, I thought it was pretty good. For my first Rock n' Roll, I was not swayed to run another one.
By: Janice L.
Posted: July 13, 2009
Good Inauguaral Race!
As with most of the Rock 'n' Roll events, you sort of know what to expect. Seattle was no different. The bands were great. The first half was way more awesome and scenic than the second half. I think this event catered to the half and not the full. I just think they should make the full as interesting and desirable of a course as the half.
The organization of this event was phenomenal, especially considering the number of people involved. Everything was well marked with signage, corrals, start, miles, etc. Aid stations were plentiful even as I passed, and I am a slower runner. The expo was well organized as well.
Transportation to the start of the marathon, although organized, ran longer then expected. The race had already started by the time our bus got there, which was after 7 a.m. They were on corral number 8 or 9, but I was in corral 15, so it was perfect for me! It was nice that they started the race on time. There were even more buses after mine.
My only issue with the race was having to pass by the finish not once but twice. We passed close enough by the first time when the halfers were finishing. Couldn't see the finish but could hear it. The second time we passed the finish was about mile 22, which was really psychologically difficult.
Also, and this has nothing to do with the race itself: Never, NEVER, NEVER stay at Hotel Seattle. It was the most filthy, old and disgusting place I have ever stayed in. It was scary. AND I forgot my Tiffany necklace, from Nike Marathon in the room, and of course, NO ONE found it.
This race definitely lived up to Rock 'n' Roll expectations. Well done, SEATTLE.
By: Mike C.
Posted: July 09, 2009
Beautiful Weather
Only suggestion that I would make is to do something different with the start. Change traffic patterns so that cars/buses can get in and out faster. I saw many people run an extra mile just to beat the stop-and-go traffic getting to the start.
Other than that, it was a really good time.
By: Jamie F.
Posted: July 09, 2009
Amazing Marathon!
I've done 16 previous marathons and I would have to say that this was by far the best. The scenery was beautiful, the crowd support was amazing, and the finish line festivities were very entertaining. There were a few hills, but they couldn't take away from how incredible this event was. I heard several people on the course say that they were signing up for next year's race as soon as they got home. I will definitely be back again!
By: Allen Griffiths
Posted: July 09, 2009
Second worst course I've ever seen.
I've run 58 marathons, and with all of the beautiful neighborhoods available in Seattle, we had to run on freeways, surrounded by concrete walls. We could see nothing of the wonderful landscape. Others have better bands. Be sure to take a picture ID if you want beer at the finish.
By: Juergen E.
Posted: July 06, 2009
Great event - my favorite marathon!
This was my 24th marathon and it was my best running experience ever. Even though the hilly course is a little tough and not suitable for a personal best, it is just beautiful. The crowds and bands were very motivating. The expo and race organization were superb.
By: Erin B.
Posted: July 05, 2009
Well Organized Race though Impersonal Course
Here is my summary of the event:
Pros:
1. Perfect weather!
2. Well organized start and finish
3. Beautiful run along Lake Washington (this is the best part)
4. Plenty of volunteers (the Cytomax was pretty good too)
5. Enough port-a-johns
6. Great medals
7. Well marked mile markers
8. Plenty of cool apparel to purchase
Cons:
1. The expo was a zoo and I didn't like it that I could not exchange the shirt for a smaller size (they run VERY large) until the finish (where there were none in my size left).
2. Merging with the slow half-marathoners after the marathon out and back on the floating bridge from 9-12 was horrible - that tunnel was HOT, runners were slow, and it was very tight. That was the worst part of the course.
3. Running on highway surfaces with no shade worked out OK this year - but that could be a future disaster. Part of the road had a slanted camber and of course don't expect spectators on the highway. Running through the downtown would be more interesting.
3. Can they eliminate that hill at mile 25? Overall, this is a hilly course so be prepared!
I really did not notice the bands - although there were a lot noted, you run past them so fast that it fails to register.
This is a good race if you are staying in town - it's the perfect time of year to visit Seattle!
By: Robert C.
Posted: July 04, 2009
Very Few Complaints - Wonderful Experience
This was my second marathon. My first was Mardis Gras 2009. We stayed at the the Homewood Suites in Tukwila, which was awesome. They have free beer and wine from 5-7 each night except Sunday. They also have a very nice running trail next door in case you have that last 2 or 3 miles to train. We could actually just step outside our door and be 10 feet from the trail.
The course was pretty good to a flat-land person. I had no hill training - and I mean NO hill training - but I did OK, and so did my wife. The 25th-mile hill did disappoint many people, though. The weather was great and you couldn't ask for better spectators.
Here is one of my only gripes. There was ice in the drink cups! I almost choked twice! Otherwise, the aid stations were great and cheered along with the spectators. My other, biggest gripe was the billing for the final concert. Keb Mo? Who is that? Yes, he's won Grammys, but who cares? This is a rock and roll marathon, not a blues guitar marathon.
With all that said, I would recommend this race to anyone and everyone. If it weren't so far from New Orleans, I would do it every year.
By: Spencer Albin
Posted: July 03, 2009
Excellent Event
I was very impressed with organization and the course. The bands and fans were great.
The only problem was that my timing tag didn't work and I have no official time. Oh well. My Timex time was 4:57 and I got the medal.
By: Michael C.
Posted: July 02, 2009
great inaugural
I ran the full marathon and thought this was a very impressive debut. The weather was perfect and the course highlighted a lot of what is great about living and running in Seattle. I would definitely run the full or the half again. A couple observations, neither good nor bad, but hopefully helpful to you out-of-towners. Again, I really liked this marathon and would do it again.
(1) The last 20 miles of the full marathon will be run on highways, so there is a lot of concrete pavement. Hills are gradual, but they can be very long as on a highway, so just be prepared for the half-mile to mile of continuous hill you will face, especially from miles 17-19 and after the turnaround on the Aurora Bridge. But the downhill back to the Seattle Center was great. (2) I was worried about the Cytomax, since I couldn't find it anywhere where I live and couldn't train with it. I actually liked it; it tasted like Diet Gatorade to me. But that's just me. (3) There were a lot of people but I don't necessarily consider it good crowd support. They would politely stand and stare at you while you were huffing by. Let's hear some noise, Seattle! (4) The traffic to the start was very bad. The start location is not a very populated area, so there are not a huge amount of side roads or other ways to get to the start. Even some of the buses were just pulling up at start time. Just be warned that 25K people fill a lot of cars, and you will want to build extra time for traffic.
By: Stephen Yutzy
Posted: July 02, 2009
Very well run race
This was my second marathon, and first RNR race. For a first-year race, I thought they did a fantastic job of organizing a race with so many people. The course was absolutely beautiful and quite challenging, and the on-course bands were good. There were lots of people out on the course (especially the first half).
My only real complaint is that the full and half start together, then the full splits off for a few miles before rejoining the half runners. The effect is that full runners go from running with half runners at their own speed, to running with half runners much slower, which turns the race into a giant game of dodging slower runners. Not pleasant.
By: Gil O.
Posted: July 02, 2009
a great half
This was the first for Seattle - a great race, with great scenery and very good organization. The marathon was well set-up, but the real band focus and spectator energy were definitely for the half-marathon. That being said, marathoners are there to run, and it is a great race for a good pace and a lot of support on the course. Well done; see you next year.
By: Doug M.
Posted: July 01, 2009
THE STARS LINED UP!
The perfect weather and an excellent course made for a tremendous inaugural Seattle Rock and Roll Marathon. I think this one is #48 for me... and, I'd have to say it is my favorite to date.
Here's a perspective on downsides/upsides:
Downsides (note that these are quite minor in the overall scope, but I think worth mentioning as feedback for organizers):
* Packet pickup and finish location are quite a long walk from hotels. If it had been (more normal) rainy weather, it would have been a nightmare to get there.
* Despite getting to the bus stop a few minutes after 5:00, we waited 45 minutes for the bus to the start. (The waits for the bus ride were so long that she had to beg our bus driver to stop on the off-ramp. Traffic backed up, so she could answer nature's call in the bushes. Having over an hour of waiting/riding in the morning, with no chance for anyone to hit a bathroom probably isn't sustainable.
* The wave start meant that you might wait 30-45 minutes after the start gun. (On the plus side of this, if everyone had started at the same moment, it would have made for a giant traffic jam.)
* About 2/3 of the way through the marathon, we merged with the half-marathon "walkers" - groups of walkers walking/talking side-by-side, blocking the road. It was a hassle to have to run around them, and slow down until you could squeeze around them.
Upsides:
* While organizers can't take credit for great weather, it was a real treat.
- Excellent course - possibly the best overall way to see Seattle. Nice run along Lake Washington and over/back on the floating bridge. But, the real treat was running on the Alaska Way Viaduct (imagine a road elevated about 100-200' above street level). This viaduct bisects the downtown skyline and the Puget Sound, so you either had to look across at the gorgeous city skyline or over at the harbor, islands, ships, snow-capped Olympic mountains, and blue water. Fortunately, this piece was an out-and-back, which gave you lots of time to soak up all of the views.
- Music was fun.
- Interesting, high-quality finishing medal, and a high-quality tech t-shirt.
- Well-stocked, well-run aid stations.
By: Raj G.
Posted: June 30, 2009
save your legs - run somewhere else
The course was very scenic. The spectators and atmosphere were great. The race organization was fine (except for two different volunteers who yanked water cups away from me at the last second and thought it was funny). The hills were tough, but certainly manageable.
My only significant complaint is that most of the course (particularly after mile 9) was on concrete, not asphalt. There's a big difference between the two surfaces. Concrete is 10 times harder than asphalt and destroys your legs.
I've been running five and a half years, completed roughly twenty races of half-marathon length or longer, and never missed any time with injuries. (And I'm no string bean, either. I weigh in at around 180.) I think the single biggest factor in my staying healthy has been my refusal to train or race on sidewalks or concrete streets.
I don't know Seattle very well, so I have no idea whether there are any other realistic options. But it would be nice if Elite would consider routing more of the course onto asphalt streets.
By: Melisa C.
Posted: June 30, 2009
Flawless debut
I was registered for the full but had to run the half. I have lost track of the number of Elite events I have run, but I believe that for Seattle, they learned from the disaster that was San Antonio. The event was flawless. I tell people who have never run an Elite event that they do everything for you but run the race. I loved the course and running through the tunnel, and the park by the lake. Seeing the eagle was breathtaking. I do hope that the lady carrying her purse learned that she can trust the UPS bag check. I check an item every time that cannot be replaced. They haven't lost it yet. Thanks, UPS.
Thanks, Elite, for yet another perfect event. I am registered for and will be ready for the full next year. I can't wait to run across that floating bridge.
By: Juliane R.
Posted: June 30, 2009
It was too crowded for the first 14 miles!
The race was well-organized, but I got really tired of all of the out-and-backs. Even though the race began in waves (corrals) of estimated pace groups, it was way too crowded! It was like the first 100 yards of any 5K, except it lasted for most of the first 14 miles. At mile 9 or so, the marathoners split off and did a two-mile out-and-back on I-90 and then joined back up with the half-marathoners. Unfortunately this meant that the marathoners ended up running/tripping over the slower half-marathoners that had caught up to the faster marathoners during the marathon's out-and-back. So the marathoners spent miles 11 through 14, slowing scooting around walkers and much slower runners on a road that was only about 10 feet wide. It was very annoying but once the half-marathoners finished the rest of the course was wide open.
The start needed some help. Traffic backed up for miles on I-5 until the exit and then a 35-minute wait for the toilets.
There were tons of water stops, although the Cytomax was way too strong for the first 5 stops. The course wasn't too hilly, but it was hard to appreciate any of the music since you passed by it so quickly!
A couple of course changes to remedy the over-crowding would make this course a 5-star race.
By: Kristin L.
Posted: June 29, 2009
Fun and organized. Getting there harder than race.
I signed up because it was my birthday. What a perfect way to celebrate! Also, this was the first big-city race I've seen in the Northwest actually on a Saturday. I don't run Sundays, so I was thrilled. I enjoyed this race immensely, once I got there. Good positive vibes. The race lived up to its name. The headliner concert was a great way to end the day. Of course, the weather really made it special. The volunteer support was second to none. Even the neighbors in the Seward Park neighborhood were super friendly. I really enjoyed the variety on the course. Not too many freeways come out of a tunnel with such stunning views. The lake was beautiful, and the finish area was organized very, very well.
Now for the complaints, keeping in mind that it was the first year. Parking costs and getting to the start line caused a lot of stress and made me late, even though I thought I allowed myself plenty of extra time. My children drove 14 hours to see me finish. They had such troubles getting downtown that they made it to the finish area only 2 minutes before I finished. Good thing I wasn't faster.
I was supposed to be in the 7th start group. I ended up in the 27th because of traffic delays. My husband wanted to drop me off from south of the start line (away from the city). It took one and a half hours to drive about five miles to get to the start line. The access was extremely bottle-necked. I was tempted to jog it. I saw other runners leaving their cars on the freeway and jogging to the race. Sorry, but 5 miles is a bit too long of a warm up for me. Here would be my suggestion for next year. Have the people in the south end of Seattle be dropped off at the mall close to the start line. Shuttles should run from the mall parking lot to the start line. There is a lot more freeway and back road access to the mall, with several entrances.
Then there were the parking costs.
We paid $10 for parking to pick up the packet, and we barely made it in time before the expo closed. They should have held packet pick up until 8:30 or 9 to allow local people to get off from work, and to avoid the rush hour traffic. Race day, parking was $20 for spectators, and anywhere we ate in town, we paid for more parking (if we could find it). Then we paid $5 for parking at the concert, which was another hour drive away (with traffic)
So maybe this is just the price I pay for doing a city marathon? I would pay it again, however, because I really enjoyed it, in spite of the stress. But if I ever get fast enough to really be competitive, I will definitely get to everything three hours early.
By: Marina White
Posted: June 29, 2009
So-so race overall
The course was not as exciting as I had anticipated. It seems like there are a lot of neat places to see in Seattle, and we did not see those! And it was also a bit hilly (plus hot this day!). But the few waterfront sections were great to be near. Also, I enjoyed passing by runners on the other side of the road a few times. It's nice to see pals and say hi to those who were way ahead of me and way behind me, so I thought that was a good way to set it up. I would probably give it a 3.5 out of 5 overall for the course.
Organization was not the best. Packet pick-up was a costly hassle, and race-morning parking could have been another costly hassle (all of the lots were like $20 and/or far away). More shuttle options and better parking availability is in order. Pre-race morning was pretty good, with plenty of fluid and fuel. The course organization was also ok, though a few stations had watery-tasting Cytomax, and there was really no solid food along the course (like fruit or pretzels), even though there usually is. The post-race area was also ok, with fruit, drinks, and snacks. BUT we were NOT able to get our FREE BEER, since many of us did not have ID, and they would not let us use our shoe tags for age, as previous races have!!! Bummer in the summer!!!
Spectators were pretty great as always, although music was not the best. For a first-time big event, it went over well, and I'm sure will be bigger and better next year!
By: Mrs. Belsky
Posted: June 29, 2009
Great organization
I loved the first half; it was scenic, along the water, with beautiful views. We even saw a Bald Eagle sitting atop one of the pine trees on the water. What a treat!
I did not particularly care for the second half as much. There was too much concrete (poison for legs), it was not very pretty, and it was not shaded. The last two complaints are minor, but the first one is a biggie. I do not believe a marathon should be run mostly on concrete (the freeways). If they could re-route the second half (maybe around Lake Washington some more?), I would give the course a higher score.
EXCELLENT volunteer support! PLENTY of port-a-potties, water stations, and aid stations. It was high energy, and I loved the bands.
If I do this one again, I will stick with the half.
By: Al Navidi
Posted: June 29, 2009
My comments about the R&R Seattle Marathon
The course was scenic, but definitely one of the hilliest and most difficult courses I have done, after 39 marathons in 21 states!! The spectators were also few and far in between, since the majority of the course was either outside Seattle or on bridges or inside tunnels!!
By: patrick w.
Posted: June 29, 2009
uncreative course
The course needs work! You reach mile 23, find yourself right at the finish line, and have to go three more miles out-and-back before you're done. Oh that's not all: those last three miles are incredibly boring, running along the top of a five story-tall highway viaduct. Let me mention that you have to go down to ground level, turn around, and at mile 25, go back up 5 stories to the top of the highway, only to come back down to the finish, when your legs are absolutely wasted from the challenging course. On top of that, you are running on a road that runs between the freight docks and an active railroad yard - not showcasing Seattle's best scenery for sure. It's certainly demoralizing. This would not be such a gripe if this had been absolutely necessary, but there could have a loop added across lake union at mile 19 - or just go farther out on that out-and-back stretch.
Granted this is a first-year race and courses always get tweaked after the race matures, but this one really needs it. I can't imagine the runner who planned that ending to the race, and I hope there are some stronger influences to modify it in future years.
OK - off of my soap box and on to other points.
The course is challenging, with lots of hills. (It is Seattle, after all.) But I like hills and knew what to expect. The segment along Lake Washington was beautiful! And the out-and-back across the floating bridge was nice - and I don't like out-and-backs.
I liked the meeting back up with the half-marathoners at mile 12, but it could really get you off your pace, and it could get crowded. I was in the top 60 and I had to duck and weave during those three miles, so I am sure that it got worse behind me.
I found the band in the tunnel annoying and could not understand a word; I could not even tell it was a band playing until I saw them. But the music was much better than some other RnR events (I have run 4 others).
The expo was first-class - par for RnR events. Packet pick-up for me was quick and efficient.
It will be easier next year to stay away from downtown because the light rail line to the airport will be complete and you can take it to the expo and the race start.
The shuttle system was awesome. The number of porta-potties was excellent. I liked the location of the start in Tuckwilla - Starbucks was open before start of race!!
The t-shirt was very nice, and not white like the majority of other tech tees.
One other note: the marathon was thin, even though the half was much more crowded. So don't look for pack help in running the full at this race; it will be somewhat solitary.
By: Tom K.
Posted: June 28, 2009
Extremely well organized
I have run other Rock & Roll events before, so I knew to expect a top-quality experience. However, this was by far the most well-organized big-city marathon in which I have participated. Of course, it helped that the weather was terrific.
Highlights:
- The course was not perfect, but it was darn good. A few miles along Lake Washington was a real treat. The band playing in the first tunnel was really a neat experience - tons of runners and loud music echoing in the tunnel.
- Abundant goodies at the start and finish. It was typical bananas/bagel/drink (with a few other items at the finish).
- Uncrowded finish area - a pleasant surprise.
- Bus service from the parking lot to the start line was superb.
The only annoyance was packet pick-up. For me, that was a major hassle. I was not staying downtown, so I had to drive in to pick up my bib and chip. The signage to the Qwest Center and parking were pretty much non-existent (this is the city's fault - not the race organizer's), and traffic was miserable on Friday. In all, it took me 2 hours and $10 in parking to pick up my packet. I strongly recommend taking the race-day pickup option, if not staying near Qwest Center.
By: Christie B.
Posted: June 28, 2009
Challenging and Beautiful Course
I am very pleased to have been part of the inaugural Seattle RNR Marathon. I thought it was very smooth, considering that it was in its first year. Seattle is a fabulous city to visit. It would have been nice to have had cloud cover on race day, but it ended up being in the 70's with full sun. That was okay; the constant sea breeze kept it from getting too hot.
Expo was well-organized, though parking was a pain. Next time I would take the bus. I had a ride to the start line, so can't speak for the organization of the shuttles. I can say that the start area was very well-organized with the most porta-potties I've ever seen, and 33 corrals released in a wave start.
The first half of the course has some hills, but nothing too bad. It goes through a gorgeous residential area, and then drops down for about 3 miles on a waterfront bike path with great views of Mt. Ranier. Then the marathoners split from the half-marathoners for a 3-mile out-and-back on a bridge. Marathoners rejoin the half-marathoners at Mile 12, and that was a little bit of a pain, because the half-marathoners we were merging with were quite a bit slower than we were, and the merging area was a narrow on-ramp. But overall, it was not too bad. We ran through downtown, which was packed with enthusiastic spectators and gave a much-needed energy boost.
The hill on the Alaskan Way Viaduct was long and very difficult (for me, anyway). Also, it was hard to pass the turn-off for the finish and still have 3 more miles to run on one last out-and-back (that also included an uphill just before the finish). But those are tiny complaints compared to the overall experience, which was fantastic. I can't quite rate the course 5 stars, because of its difficulty, but it was 5 stars in every other way - especially the scenery.
Also, this is my 3rd RNR marathon and definitely my favorite as far as the music. These bands pretty much all rocked, which has not been my experience at other RNR marathons.
Great job, Seattle! Overall, one of my best marathon experiences.
By: Jim T.
Posted: June 27, 2009
Rock 'n' Roll Seattle sets the standard for fun
The inaugural race was a stunning debut. A sold-out race. Festive race-day atmosphere. A very well organized start area, and the race actually started on time. You could tell everyone was really looking forward to this race. I will always remember the cheer that went up as the runners approached the first band on the course. Beautiful scenery along the course, especially the part along the lake. A good number of spectators at the lake and in downtown. The finish line festival was a real celebration and also well organized. They handed out the heaviest finisher's medal I have ever received. A great post-race concert by Keb Mo topped off the day. Congrats to Elite for successfully putting it on. It was what a Rock 'N Roll Marathon should be.