By: Gr H.
Posted: November 07, 2019
Good race
I traveled to Raleigh in order to cross North Carolina off of my list of states. For anyone else going for 50 states, this is an easy one for travelers. Between airfare (from Chicago), rental car, and hotel, I only spent about $300. Raleigh is a small city with a lot to offer and it is easy to get around.
Pros about the race:
* The Greenway portion of the race is pretty and shady.
* Nice weather in NC this time of year. Really great for running.
* Expo was quick and easy.
* Nice t-shirt and medal
* Good aid stations and course support
Opportunities:
* OK parking (not great, but OK.) I found a spot, but I was worried for a while as there were closed streets and lots of people converging on the same spots at the same time
* This course has hills. I come from the flat Midwest, so this was pretty challenging to me. Probably would have finished at least 4-5 minutes sooner on a flat course
* There were a few times when it wasn't abundantly clear which direction I needed to head at forks in the road. More volunteers or cones would have been helpful.
By: Laurie W.
Posted: November 11, 2018
Hilly course- nice location
Traveled here to cross off NC on my list. Easy to get to expo and start line. Slightly chilly am, but it turned out to be a great day. I understand why a fellow runner said 'it takes time to get your rhythm'- he was correct. The first 8-9-10 miles, were up/down/city streets. The Greenway was 98% nice ( -2% were d/t parts that we were running on --side walks and the paved trails that was very uneven d/t tree roots). The volunteers on the course were OUTSTANDING. Aid stations fully stocked. It was my first out and back course. I would recommend having a day of pick up option - as I needed to coordinate a lot of travel to make it there by 5 PM. If I lived there / near by- would run again.
By: tammy s.
Posted: January 14, 2017
Good mid sized marathon
I have run this marathon the last 4 years. It is a good organized race with a well marked course. There are plenty of porta potties at the start. I liked the slip of paper at the finish area with instant time and age group placing. the food at the finish is adequate, and the aid stations had plenty of gels at several points. However there are several ways this race can improve: 1. Get rid of the 2 added 180 degree narrow turns added to this year's course on the greenway. 2. Cone off the section of road near 7 miles where the marathon intersects with the 5K finishers. Even with volunteers instructing 5K walkers to keep left many did not, and it was annoying to thread through them. 3. Why give medals as age group awards that are almost identical to the finishers medal?? Since everyone gets a medal at marathons and halfs these age group medals, trophies, and plaques are meaningless. Please give gift cards or sponser merchandise instead!!!!
By: Mary D.
Posted: December 01, 2016
Mediocre Marathon
The course was boring. It no longer goes through Umstead Park, and now is on city streets and narrow greenways. The race used to be managed by local running stores who took a more personal interest in runners. It is now a for-profit marathon. I won my age group and was told my award would be mailed. When I did not receive it, I emailed and was told 'too bad. We don't mail awards.' Since they are operated by the same company that manages the spring Rock and Roll marathon which DOES mail awards I found this very rude.
By: Dasa R.
Posted: November 06, 2016
Challenging and tough course
I had run this race in 2006 inaugural edition of this race, when the course, especially, the second half was different. It was a hilly second half but the hills were long and not as steep. Over the last few years they had changed the course to include several rolling hills in the first half and a difficult climb in the second half between mile 16 and 20.
Completing this race will give one a satisfaction of having run a hard marathon! Will definitely recommend it for support and organization but not for a goal time, unless you train for it!
By: Gary S.
Posted: May 03, 2015
A Nice Greenway Run
I ran this race in 2013 as my very first marathon. It is a smaller marathon (many more run the half-marathon) and you spend much of your time running on greenways with relatively few people to cheer you on simply because access is pretty limited. But there were good crowds at the start and finish areas and other places along the course where there was good accessibility and parking.
As in the previous year, this course followed exactly the same path. Part of the attraction, for me, was to compare performance with the 2013 time to see what kind of progress I had made. Since the weather conditions were similar, the improvement of nearly 35 minutes was meaningful.
The organization and volunteers were excellent. The volunteers were both the cheering support in those areas that were less accessible AND the did their jobs well in providing fluids and food and fuel along the course.
Super medal for 2014 and a finisher's t-shirt in addition to the race t-shirt. The medal was great in 2013; this thing was huge with a spinner center.
Plenty of food at the finish area with the standard pizza, bagels, and bananas. Oh yes, we get Krispy Kreme doughnuts!
As I had written before, this is not a flat course. There are portions that run along the creek bed that are very flat, but there is also about 1200 feet of vertical climbing over the course with a few significant hills. I live here, so the hills are just a fact of life. If you want a flat course, you need to look elsewhere. But it is still a nice run if you've trained with hills.
Although I won't be running the full marathon in 2015 because it will be off cycle with my training schedule (and I've already run three marathons in 2015), I may run the half-marathon because that distance will be in my training plan as a scheduled training race. But the marathon will likely be back on my schedule in 2016.
By: Katie B.
Posted: November 14, 2014
My favorite local marathon
I ran this race in 2010 when it went through Umstead. The course is much less hilly, however, the one incline coming back on the greenway to Meredith College was not cool. But there is a downhill to follow.
I felt the first about 10 miles were crowded. And thought it was crazy that the 10k runners joined up with the half and full racers. I would think that would make it difficult to PR in a 10k.
Greenway was narrow...and had to watch out when runners were going both ways on it.
Need more porta potties at start line! And parking at Cameron Village...a little difficult. Especially when the businesses start opening and employees complain they cannot find any parking.
There are pace groups and the pacers for the 4:30 marathon were top notch. They fulfilled their duties very well. Because of that, I took off last three miles and broke 4:30.
This is my favorite local marathon by far. I'd run it again but want to get more marathons in out of state :) .
By: Em J.
Posted: November 11, 2014
not for people who like to win big
The race was well organized and the parking simple. The only negative was that the age group awards were cheap prints of downtown Raleigh with a lime green sky and pink trees. I expected at least a gift certificate for some socks in exchange for placing first! If you want to win, this is not your marathon.
By: Fred Ostrowski
Posted: November 08, 2014
Great support along the course
I ran the marathon and enjoyed the city as well as the greenway along the course. The hills on the way back to the finish were challenging however the multiple offers of Gu from race volunteers kept most runners going. In addition to the great water/Gu stations along the course, the race long sleeve tech shirt, large finishing medal and finishing short sleeve tech shirt made up for the hills. Perfect temps for this year's race though a bit windy at times. Will definitely plan to run again next year.
By: Ron H.
Posted: November 03, 2014
Diverse course, but hilly.
This was the 2nd time running so I knew the steep inclines waiting between mile 20 and 23. They sure keep you honest. I really like the course. Downtown, neighborhoods and a green way help stave off boredom. My wife as a spectator loved the atmosphere and decided she wants to run one of the races herself. Volunteers were great and spectator enthusiasm helped me at times. Organisation was top notch from packet pick up to post race.
By: Shawn W.
Posted: December 07, 2013
Easy race...
The course was difficult however. I thought the organization was very well through out. The expo was quick, there was plenty of parking near the start/finish line. Lots of water/sport drink stands that were well ran by the vols. The pace people during the race and the multiple chip sensors for review after the race were nice touches I have only seen in the big city races. I would do this one again.
By: Dominique L.
Posted: December 07, 2013
well organized, hilly course in a beautiful city
Expo was simple but nice, volunteers extremely friendly for the check-in, the race itself was well organized, parking easy, start process was good and aid stations were stacked with Accelerade which from my perspective made a big difference reducing cramps. You get a nice long-sleeve shirt and custom hat, and the medal is gorgeous. It was a well organized, hilly course in a beautiful city.
By: Joanna R.
Posted: November 21, 2013
Challenging course, friendly supporters
I knew that this marathon was going to be small, but I was shocked when I found myself completely alone on the course. I found this concerning from a safety perspective as well as morale. Medical support on the course is close to non existent.
Other big gripe- food at the finish lacked healthiness or variety. I did enjoy the chicken soup, but so many bread products! Pizza, Krispy Kreme, more bread... No fruit (maybe bananas), juice, chocolate milk or yogurt. Everyone has different preferences for recovery food, but the organizers should have at least attempted to provide real, no processed food. This is an event for athletes or at least people trying to lead a healthy lifestyle!
Pros- ideal weather, friendly volunteers at aid stations.
Cons- hills throughout the course, the double whammy at mile 22 is soul crushing. Food at the finish lacked healthy options.
By: Gary S.
Posted: November 20, 2013
More Like a Pleasant Training Run
First, great volunteers (enthusiastic) and good organization. Plenty of water, accelerade and gels on the marathon course. Good spacing of various stations.
Second, plenty of food. I, too, saw previous comments. I finished in 5:10 and there was still plenty of food when I made it down to the food area. There were bananas, bagels and breads when I entered the area after finishing in addition to the doughnuts and pizza.
Third, great medal. If you want bling with some heft to it, this is definitely one of those medals.
Fourth, because of the greenway use the course was not overly crowded. Pretty well-controlled with the combination of the half and full marathoner start and the eventual merging of the 10K run. And the volunteers did a really good job of making sure people got to the correct place particularly when the full-marathoners left the road course.
Fifth, somewhat limited spectator viewing and support. More people at the 10K finish at Cameron Village. And a pretty good crowd out at Crabtree viewing area. Maybe the half-marathoners had more spectator support because they finished earlier. It was pretty empty as I came down the last 2 miles.
Nothing you can do about the hills. It would have been better to publish the total vertical rise in addition to the course profile. My Fitbit said more than 1150 feet, with 140 feet of vertical at mile 22. For a flatter course, it is still pretty intense. I heard a lot of comments by the HM runners about how hilly it was. Yes, the first 11 miles ARE quite hilly. But my long runs of 20, 23, and 26 miles had more than 1500 feet of vertical over those courses so I felt well-prepared.
The health and fitness expo is small but suitable to the number of entrants. Packet pickup went smoothly. Glad it was a disposable timing chip for the shoe.
Finally, I was impressed with how long the organizers left the timing system up so that last runners could get their official times and medals. The street may have been open but the timing system was left running for 1:15 beyond the 'official' cutoff time. I'm sure those finishers appreciated it.
The use of the greenway system limits the number of people who can compete (rather than running a pure road course). If you want to run a marathon without the crush of people that has some real challenges for you, this is a nice one to run. As my first marathon, it was a great experience!
By: charles w.
Posted: November 10, 2013
Very nice rac
On my quest to complete the 50 states, I decided to go with the Raleigh marathon since I have several friends in the area. I really wanted to do the Outer Banks race but chose my friends and that turned out to be a good decision.
Yes, the course is very hilly. There is not much that can be done in North Carolina to avoid the hills. Lots of people think that North Carolina is pancake flat but that is only true on the coast. The organization was very good. I would have like a few e-mails and some facebook updates. There are several hotels within walking distance and you get to see most of the high points of the city. Lots of gels are available and there are lots of enthusiastic volunteers.
Variety of food at the finish could be improved. I enjoyed the donuts and pizza but some bagels and banannas would be appreciated.
Going into the race I was concerned by past comments about lack of food. I finished just under 4 hours and there was food present but I did see people walking off with large boxes of pizza and large quantities of donuts. Hopefully there was something left for the later finishers.
By: Walter J.
Posted: November 09, 2013
Beautiful Fall Marathon
I loved this marathon! The Expo was a nice size and race bag pickup workers were very friendly. Parking for the race was close and easy to get in and out of. The temperature was 40 degrees at the start and clear skies (absolutely perfect).
The race started on time and ran through downtown Raleigh and around NC State University. About the 12 mile mark we entered the Greenway on an 11 mile rolling path with colored leaves blowing off the trees as we ran. (I live in southern Florida and never get to see something as wonderful as that).
Gu's, water and Accelerade were provided every 2 miles here as were 2 stops with bananas and peanut butter and jelly sandwiches (a absolute marathon treat).
Lots of hills but not too awful bad, except mile 23, but it provides character to a race. Hot pizza and huge medals at the finish. The volunteers could not have been nicer or more helpful.
What's not to like?
By: Erin B.
Posted: November 04, 2013
Challenging Course, Sparse Fans
This was my first City of Oaks Marathon.
Expo: Obtaining my packet and premium was super easy. Wasn't overly impressed with the shirt -but appreciated receiving the hat (something different). There weren't many vendors at the expo - and my group actually went to REI (about 10 minutes away) to obtain more GUs.
Parking: As advertised - parking was super easy and plentiful. We stayed at a hotel ten minutes away, parked at the shopping center and made the easy five minute walk to the start/finish.
Course: The marathon course was incredibly challenging. I had run Baltimore in October (which is also very hilly and the net elevation gain on this was just slightly less) so I thought I'd prepared well for the hills. I quickly discovered I had not. These hills are no joke - this may be the 'fastest' course City of Oaks has prepared - but I don't agree with the 'flattest' part they advertised, as there was almost no flat terrain - I was always running up or down. The first half of the race is on city streets and is a constant up and down. Not to mention they put an out and back in the first three miles - so the race course is very crowded initially. I was also surprised that the marathon and half share a portion of the course with the 10K, which started a half hour later - but allowed strollers. The second half of the marathon is on a paved trail - which showcased Raleigh's fall foliage (really picturesque). However, the trail is a pretty steep out and back, which make the hills from the first half look like child's play. The hill at mile 23 was brutal.
Support: There were plenty of water stops. There was no gatorade, rather something called Accelerate - which was not pleasant. There was plenty of GU offered on the marathon course - however, there was only one food stop (you hit it on the out and back) - I would really have loved to have seen one a bit earlier in the course. The fans were pretty sparse - both on the street portion of the race and the trail - however, those who were there were great.
Post Race: Race bling was great (huge). Finish area had Papa John's pizza, Krispy Kreme donuts and bananas. I had no issue grabbing my bag from gear check, but was disappointed there was no change area - only port-a-potties.
The sparse fans and challenging course left me a bit disappointed. Overall, this race was just okay - so, I do not plan on running it again.
By: Martin Harrison
Posted: November 04, 2013
Pretty Much As Advertised
See the other folks with pro and cons. They are pretty much accurate. The course is advertised as 'Our 2013 marathon course will be our flattest and fastest course ever.' however note this is NOT a 'flat' or 'fast' marathon course. You climb from elev 220 to elev 450 from mile 20 to mile 24 and there's some downhills so you are actually runnign up hill more than the 230 feet. from 22.6 to 23 you climb 80 feet! You must plan for this.
My pros are:
1) VERY well organized race.
2) Great information provided beforehand
3) Course well marked
4) Started on time
5) Entusiastic volunteers
6) I really liked the greenway run through the woods feel
7) Enough of an expo for last minute details. I don't expec thet expo to be the bargain hunter paradise. Just want my number, race bag and chance to pick up a few gels.
8) Like the runners hat in addition to shirt that came with packet, It's a nice little add that's something different.
The cons:
1)A little upgrade of the food at the finish would be nice. I know Krispy Kremem is a corporate sponsor and I thank them, but that's too much of a sugar shock for me after runnign 26 miles.
2) They don't start handing out on course gels until half marathon folks split off. Fortunately I carried a few from the start, but if you haven't started taking calories before mile 11, you're in a bunch of trouble.
3) The aid stations are huge when you hit them but they are spread out at two mile plus intervals. Maybe smaller stations at one mile intervals would be nice.
Overall it's a great race and I recommend it to anyone who is looking for a mid-sized Fall marathon. I'd do it again but there's so many great options and so little time.
By: Amanda M.
Posted: November 07, 2012
Challenging, low-key race
This was my 10th marathon and my 1st time to run City of Oaks.
PROS
1. Nice, BIG race medal.
2. Very easy to find parking within walking distance to the start.
3. Little, if any, traffic concerns out on the course (helps that about 2/3 of the course is run on the greenway)
4. Well-organized spectator viewing locations along the greenway, complete with spectator parking. My husband was able to stop at multiple locations to cheer during the race.
5. Spectators and volunteers were friendly and energetic.
6. Ample hotels and restaurants in the area for out-of-towners like me.
7. Small expo, quick in-and-out to get your race number and technical shirt. Enough vendors that I was able to pick up last minute gels to carry along the course.
8. Chip timing mats provided at good, strategic locations to prevent people from cutting the course along the greenway.
CONS
1. The dreaded long lines at the Port-a-potties. I don't know if they didn't order enough, or if they initially did but did not account for the influx of displaced NYC marathoners.
2. We got caught in traffic going to the expo Friday, didn't anticipate rush hour.
3. No signs directing you to the expo entrance, we just followed other runners.
FOR CONSIDERATION
1. The greenway portion is a long out-and-back. Not a bother for me, use your judgment if that's too monotonous for you.
2. I underestimated the hills. I have to warn future participants to especially control their pace for the first 2 miles (you will regret not doing so later).
3. Basic finish line food plus a beer garden.
4. Ipods were allowed, so long as you could still follow race directions.
Overall I have a good impression of the race. I would recommend it for 50 staters looking for their North Carolina race.
By: Mi F.
Posted: November 07, 2012
Well Done Raleigh!
I was worried when the race grew to over 5,000 participants but was pleased with the outcome. I have run the full in the past, but did the half this year.
Positives:
- Parking was nearby.
- Convenient porta-potties.
- Great post race beer.
- Started on time.
- Clear and loud announcements before race. I knew exactly when the race was starting.
- Great sponsors.
- Long sleeve tech shirts
Could Improve:
- Get the mile markers up higher. I missed three of them. At least consider tieing large baloons so you can see them coming up.
By: Bret Murphy
Posted: November 07, 2012
Good course/Great volunteers
This was my first City of Oaks and my seventh in North Carolina (have done them all but two). The course was hilly and the placement of the hills was tough (miles 21 to 23). Nevertheless, on course aid was great and spectators were small but really encouraging. I agree-if you need a band playing every thirty yards, this is not the race for you. Medal was awesome-shirt was not cotton 'technical blend' and good-looking.
What I would change? The start was very congested and the beginning streets were narrow. Do not start the 10k at the same time.
Finally, post-race had pizza, smoothies, great beer, etc. If you need donuts, hot chocolate, expressogo to Golden Corral or Dennys.
By: Darryl H.
Posted: November 04, 2012
Challenging course but worth it
It was communicated that the 2012 course had less hills, but it was the hilliest course I've run (8 marathons). The race had a small-town feel. Thus, I wouldn't recommend the race if it is your first marathon, and you need many spectators cheering you throughout the course.
The expo is quite small. Parking is relatively simple and approx. 5 minutes from the race start. Volunteers are cheerful which is always a plus.
The medal is one of the largest and most attractive. Even the half-marathon medal is larger than most full marathon medals.
It is not a marathon that I would return, but it was worthwhile. Finally, similar to previous comments many marathoners get post-race food scraps because there are many non-runners eating food before many marathoners can finish. Fortunately, I only need a slice of pizza and a smoothie after a 26.2 mile run.
By: Rusty J.
Posted: November 04, 2012
Half Marathon Disappointment
Well Lets Start at the Beginning -The Expo is Very SMALL & Ive Been to 5Ks that Have Better Swag for Way Less $$. TShirts are Cotton - for $80.00!!
The Start was a JOKE & No One Was Ready for It. GO was IMMEDIATELY After the National Anthem.
The Course for the Half Was Changed 2 Weeks Prior to the Race & It Just Made It Worse. The Food at the End was Pathetic! Nothing was Hot Except the Pizza. They Need to Have Soup,Chilli, Coffee, Hot Chocolate! I'm Glad I Didn't Travel to Run this Race - I Know Why I Always Go to Better Races out of Town. Raleigh Can Do Better!
By: Corrine Haynes
Posted: December 12, 2011
Organized, challenging,
Expo was easy to get to and plenty of parking available. I love the shirt, but didn't realize they ran small, so will never wear it :( Race day had plenty of parking and was a short walk to the start....again, easy to get to. The course was very hilly, but I trained for it, so was actually easier than I anticipated. Not many spectators, but that is ok w/ me as I love the smaller races. I actually wore a water bottle for Umstead Park because I was a little afraid of going over 3 miles w/ no water, but the 'oaks' were so beautiful through that section I never needed it as the time went by so quickly. Open roads with no traffic were so appreciated, you really felt the race director put a lot of time and thought into protecting 'his' runners. The finish w/ the banana's, sticky buns and pizza were nothing special, but the medal made up for it as it was huge. The beer was all gone by the time I went back to the car to get some warm clothes on and came back to wait for friends. I felt that the runners who finished in the shorter races definetly got what they needed and the marathoners were kind of left w/ the scraps. Overall it was a fantastic race, but if you haven't trained for hills, you may struggle.
By: Kacey F.
Posted: November 08, 2011
Tough Hills, Small Town Race Feel
If you've read anything about this race, you already know what you're facing: hills throughout the course. The hills present a nice added challenge to the already challenging goal of running a marathon. This was probably the hilliest course I've run that didn't have 'Mountain' in the title.
While I wouldn't put Raleigh in the 'small town' category, the race definitely has the feel of one. The expo is small with about three dozen tables and the spectators are sparse along the course.
On this run, you travel through downtown and various neighborhoods, farm land and Umstead Park. I especially enjoyed running up toward the state capital building, along a winding roads with beautiful fall foliage, and seeing cows and horses in pastures.
Packet picket was easy and organized, with plenty of parking at the McKimmon Center. I was able to drive most of the course the day before, so I could get a preview of what I'd be running in the morning. Arrows pointing runners in the correct direction for turns were already up and easily identifiable, which made navigating the day before (and of!) simple.
Race morning, there was plenty of parking at the Cameron Village shopping center, a short 5 minute walk to the start on Hillsborough Street at the NC State Bell Tower. The start area wasn't crowded at all, so when I arrived 10 minutes before 7am, I had no problem getting a good position about 40 feet from the start line.
Runners could sign up for pace groups at the expo on Friday and Saturday, or jump in with the groups race morning. I started with the 3:45 group, but after running a 8:09 first mile and 7:57 (!!) second mile, I didn't stick with them since they were running further ahead of pace than what I knew I'd be able to maintain for the remaining 24+ miles. In the last mile or two, a pacer with 4:00 passed me, yet I finished in the low 3:50s, so the pace groups weren't running at the designated finishing goals.
Mile markers were difficult to spot (I didn't see 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 10, 18, 21) since they were about 12' x 12.' I didn't care for the HEED sports drink along the course, so stuck with water, and saw gels at one station late in the course, so I was glad I'd brought along my own. I did really enjoy the beer station along the course, and while I didn't get any when I passed it the first time around mile 11, I did pick one up when I passed it on my way back around 22probably the best thing I drank along the course because it was ice cold!
The technical shirt was alright, but the finishers medal is pretty awesome, it was HUGE. The post race food was lame, bananas and pizza (much of which was being consumed by volunteers), but the very generous sized beers in beer garden were appreciated. Bottled water and foil blankets were available to runners are the finish line, but I didn't see any sport drinks (however, if it was more HEED, I would have passed on it anyway).
By: Darrel W.
Posted: November 07, 2011
Challenging and Beautiful Course
My wife and I ran the 1/2 (her) and full (me) race as a backup when our plans for Savannah fell through. We had trained for the flatness of Savannah, and were challenged by the considerable hilliness of the Raleigh course. The first 8 miles or so were in downtown Raleigh and surrounding neighborhoods, were very scenic, and had a good number of enthusiastic spectators. After mi 10, or so, the course turns rural and spectators dwindled. Doesn't matter much to me - I usually don't see many spectators on my long runs anyway! Around mi 17, the course turns into Unstead Park for a few miles of beautiful, wide horse trail. This section has a couple of pretty long hills. After exiting the park, another 2 or 3 mi of hills on a greenway before the course flattens out for finish back downtown.
I thought organization was great. We registered at the expo about an hour before closing. The only issue was that there were only XL and XXL shirts left for the marathon runners; they promised to mail me one in my size later. Good post race celebration area; somewhat limited food choices - pizza and bananas, but this was enough for me. Good locally brewed beer, however! Medals look fantastic!
By: Andy N.
Posted: February 22, 2011
Beautiful, tough course.
I ran the 2010 full marathon and absolutely loved it, but I could see that it is not for everyone.
The course is very difficult; there are several very long uphills throughout the race, so make sure you can handle those before signing up. That said, the course is beautiful, especially miles 12-18 through Umstead Park. Within the park, miles 15-18 are on a dirt trail, but the trail is well maintained and packed down, so footing is not an issue (except for one icy bridge that nearly took me out).
The crowd support is okay but pretty small. I would say the same for the expo/packet pickup, small and okay, which also made it very easy. Both the crowd and expo are about what I would expect for a smaller race like this.
If you are looking for a fast course or strong crowd support, this is not the race for you. If you want a beautiful, peaceful, challenging marathon, then you will probably love it as much as I did.
By: William S.
Posted: January 09, 2011
Good Marathon
City of Oaks is a good marathon, in my opinion. I won't be running it again, however. It was advertised as offering "No Packet pickup on race day." Therefore, instead of simply driving down on race day for the start, I made arrangements for my kids, rented a hotel room, and took time off from work, more than doubling the cost of this marathon for me personally. When I get to the start on race morning, what did I see? Packet pick-up! Thanks a lot; that's what I get for paying attention to what the director put up on the website. If you're going to have packet pick-up on race day, then say so.
I've already given my registration fee for this coming November's marathon to another event. I won't be back in Raleigh; there are other choices for good marathons in NC.
By: Katie B.
Posted: November 30, 2010
A hilly marathon in the south
I finally ran this race. I am from the area. Nice race, though the course was tough. However, it is the south; therefore, expect hills. Cannot compare this race to flat Chicago at all.
Nor can you compare this race to the larger marathons regarding spectators. This is a small marathon, so spectator support is limited. But I never felt alone. The spectators who were out were GREAT. And the volunteers - police, race course monitors, aid stations, and water stop people were GREAT.
This was a NICE marathon and I am glad I ran it.
I recommend making the water stops at the beginning - when the half and full participants are together - to be larger. Those were tough to get through and I missed getting water at the first one. The rest of the stops after the half turned around were fine.
And why does this race have HEED as the sports drink? I suggest getting Gatorade or PowerAde. Where can one find HEED? So that makes it hard to train with the stuff. And it is not the greatest-tasting drink either.
And the post-race food was awful. Unless all of the half folks ate it before I got there. There were cut-up cinnamon type bun things and some pizza, and I think boxes of Wheaties cereal. That was it. So PLEASE IMPROVE on the post-race food or leave some so the full racers can get some.
Post-race massage was great - no wait.
Start/finish area were well put together. Start wasn't that thrilling: no gun, no horn, and no music. We need something to get us going and pumped.
But for a locally-run race, it was well put together. I'd say the course was the best part.
By: Benjamin E.
Posted: November 15, 2010
Not as bad as I expected.
All of the reviews that I have read about this race have talked about hills and more hills and how hard the race was. All of the extra hill work that I did must have prepared me for all the "hills" because I didn't think it was too bad. The hardest point on the race for me was coming out of Umstead Park and heading up the long, gradual hill at mile 19. There never seemed to be an end in sight, but once you got there it was all familiar territory since the last 6 miles were basically part of the beginning of the race.
The weather was a bit brisk but not horrible. I was expecting to head south for a warm marathon and ended up with a race in the lower 30's. Other than the chill it was a beautiful day with the sun poking through the clouds for most of the race.
The course had a little bit of everything, running through rural countryside as well as downtown Raleigh. The first half had very little crowd support and the second half (from 10-23) had no crowd support. You will definitely face some mental battles through this race in which you will have to get through on your own. The finish was nice; from mile 23-26.2, you caught up with some of the half marathon walkers, who gladly stepped aside and cheered as you went by.
All in all, I would recommend running this race to anyone interested. This is one for me to cross off my list. If the opportunity rises, I would consider doing this race again.
By: Craig L.
Posted: November 11, 2010
Challenging, fun and scenic course
Going into the race, I expected a lot of hills. Now that I have finished the race, I got what I expected. This course is very hilly. I have run Boston several times, and I truly believe this course is MUCH tougher but very similar to Boston. The first half of the course goes through downtown Raleigh and surprisingly was quite a bit hillier than I wanted or expected. The second half mainly goes through Umstead State Park (very scenic and nice to run in). I did not think the park or the second half were very hilly compared to the first half. Even though the temperatures where barely in the 40's throughout the race and the course was challenging, I still ended up setting a PR. Other than poor fan support throughout much of the race, I felt that this marathon was put on very nicely. I would recommend it for people who are looking for a challenging "small-town" race.
By: Elliott Smith
Posted: November 10, 2010
Challenging course, good people, good day
It was a chilly start. A good number of people out there. The spectators and volunteers were great. Water stations were placed just as described, except inside Umstead Park, which is about 3.5 miles of the course. The Hammer Nutrition sports drink was mixed weak, but the Hammer gels (raspberry) were great. I trained for hills, but my legs were still crying - first marathon blues. After it warmed up a bit, I was able to enjoy the beautiful day, the scenes, and the inspirational people. And yes, finish the race quickly so you can get some free pizza.
By: Oliver S.
Posted: November 09, 2010
Great race; I set a PR in the half
The little backpack-type bags at the packet pickup were cool. The music at Hillsborough was awesome. "Let's get it started in here..." got me going again. Coming from out of state, the sponsor hotel was great and even extended the race discount an extra day for me. I stuck with the water, since I trained with G2. The police did a good job with traffic control. I saw some incidents when they were pressured.
By: Katherine S.
Posted: November 08, 2010
A fantastic first marathon
This was my first marathon. Nothing to compare it too, but I had a great time!
The volunteers were wonderful. They had water every 2 miles, the bag check at the beginning was effortless and everyone was very nice and helpful.
The spectators were great. Thanks to the girl at Mile 22 with the sign saying, "Just Keep Running." I think that mantra got me through to the finish line.
The course is not easy. Vertically challenging. I ran the first half at 7:30 minute/mile pace and the 2nd half at 8:30 minute/mile pace, which I think was largely due to the hills.
I thought the organization was great. My only complaint was the queue to park pre-race. There are several ways into the campus. Perhaps give directions to several different parking lots to cut down on the traffic.
Good food/drinks at the end. Perhaps some music at the end would be fun?!
By: Frank L.
Posted: November 08, 2010
Wonderful Event
Was not expecting to be as impressed as I was!
First, I loved the course! Gentle, rolling hills... nothing bad at all. Not a spectacular course, but really there were no ugly sections. Very pretty! Well-marked, good mile markers, etc.
Second, everything seemed to just happen easily. No traffic congestion at either the expo or race morning.
Nice, convenient parking.
Adequate number of porta-johns (you can never have too many!).
Aid stations - well supplied with fluids and gels.
Excited volunteers everywhere!
Prompt results available.
Only suggestions would be 1) to drop the HEED sports drink and switch to Gatorade or something that tastes okay; and 2) improve the shirt design (and shrink up logos!).
I will do this one again!
By: Michael F.
Posted: November 07, 2010
Well Organized Race with a Beautiful Course
Great job by Raleigh Running Outfitters and all of those involved with the City of Oaks Marathon.
ORGANIZATION: As a runner, I always knew exactly what was going on. Timely announcements were made before the start. Every turn was clearly marked and staffed with great volunteers. Every aid station was well manned and treated the exact same way (water first, Heed second). It was nice not having to ask volunteers what was in the cups.
COURSE: Absolutely fantastic. A great mix of urban and scenic. Some challenging climbs, but I would much rather have a pretty course than something flat and boring. The three miles in Umstead were some of my favorites. The half runners missed some of the best parts
POST-RACE AND AWARDS: I love the 2010 medal. The acorn design is fantastic (actually a better design than their race logo). The post-race food was so-so. They had hot pizza and some bagels. Coffee and sodas would be nice. Some other salty options at the finish would be good too.
GENERAL: Overall a very well organized and challenging race. The volunteers were excellent throughout. The start/finish location sets up perfectly for a marathon. If flat and easy is your only goal, this is not your marathon. If you want a well run race with a gem of a race course, come run the Oaks!
By: Anne S.
Posted: June 07, 2010
Head for the hills... and more hills and more hill
I knew this race would be very challenging because of the hills. However, this was much harder than the San Francisco Nike Women's Marathon. The weather was in the 50's with pouring rain, gale force winds, and muddy conditions - especially in Umstead. This is, as someone said, a "humbling" marathon. Although I ran a personal best, it was not my favorite. The first half of the race comprises rolling hills (still challenging, but not like the second half), but after mile 13 it is all uphill until the last 2 miles or so. It is fairly scenic in the first third and last third of the race, but there's not much to see in the middle. The best thing about the race were the FANS!!! To come out in that weather (when you weren't running!) to cheer us on was truly inspiring! If you are looking for a challenge or a training ground before a PB on a flat course, this is great.
By: Paul Z.
Posted: June 03, 2010
Very few man-made complaints
I got up early on the Sunday of the race ready to go. Seemingly it wasn't early enough. Traffic heading into the parking area of the marathon start was pretty bad. Make sure you leave really early (or know the backroads from being a life-long resident).
Once at the starting line it was misting/raining and I pretty much knew what was in store. The first part of the race is through downtown and is fairly flat. It tempted me to go out too fast (and I did) but I was pretty amped up because this was my first marathon.
Heading down to the turn-around for halfers, it remains flat. From there on out you better be ready for some serious hills. The torrential downpour throughout those hills made this a very difficult race. Footing was difficult on the gravel/dirt path on Umstead Park but that was only because of the rain.
This was a great race. I'm not the one to ask about the tech shirts, expo, medals, etc. Those sort of things are kinda pointless to me.
Food at the end included pizza, fruit, etc. but I was pretty dazed by the end and definitely didn't feel like anything.
Support along the roads was surprisingly good. I mean, there was some serious rain coming down and people still were loud and energetic. I was proud to be from Raleigh. That's not to say this was New York or any other huge marathon, but if you want you can go there.
This marathon is very well run and I would run it again if I weren't training for another. Give it a shot and hope for better weather!
By: Walter B.
Posted: February 15, 2010
Beautiful course, challenging hills
Beating the torrential rain and gusty winds, along with the hills, made this the most satisfying race I've ever run. I was only using it as a tune up for Myrtle Beach, but liked it so much I'll be back next year. The hills up to mile 20 are challenging, but the steady decline from there to the finish allowed me to finish strong and post a two-minute negative split.
Great organization, and world-class volunteers to be out in that weather. Only complaint: the start area is kind of crowded and parking was a bit of a headache due to the limited roads into the parking area. Other than that, I'd highly recommend this race.
By: Charlie p.
Posted: November 10, 2009
Thanks for a fun event!
Third time for the half marathon. I enjoyed it a ton - despite the constant rain! Once again, great organization and a really great course.
The only negatives (in my opinion):
-I'd never heard of nor seen any of the "Hammer" sports drink before and was nervous to try it. I wish they'd have something more mainstream like PowerAde or Gatorade.
-Also, this was the third year of not being able to wear my race shirt. I'm 6-foot-5 and every year the shirt barely gets to my waist and the sleeves look like 3/4 cut. I got an XXL and it still doesn't fit. I am definitely not the tallest person running, so there must be others that have this issue every year. I realize the organizers want to use a more local product, but it's so disappointing to have three awesome looking tech shirts that I can't wear!
I've traveled down from Minnesota each year to run this and will continue to run it!
By: Will M.
Posted: November 07, 2009
Beautiful course, great organization!
From the expo to post-race, this event was beautifully done.
I ran this marathon without any training. I am from Raleigh, and thought I would come support the local race. I had low expectations for time and ended up having a blast.
The course was indeed very difficult, especially in the last half. However, the beautiful fall scenery and Umstead made me think less of the hills.
T-shirt and medal were great. Everyone seemed upbeat and excited to be there, even in the dreary weather.
Definitely a must-do if you live in the area, and if you are looking to check off NC on your 50 states list, please consider City of Oaks.
By: Flannery O.
Posted: November 06, 2009
Hills+Trail+Rain+Wind+Loneliness=Hard!
Between weather and terrain, this was the toughest race I have ever run. I aimed to BQ with this race (I failed), which was difficult both because the whole course is filled with hills (it's never flat) and because the second half of the course is more challenging. I think the latter is because of the terrain (partially on trail) and because there are far fewer spectators. When the half-marathoners break off before mile 9 and you turn on this long rolling road bordered by fields and unsympathetic cows, it's mentally challenging. The last six miles were miserable, but I don't think this was because the course was any harder at this point, but rather because the course wasn't any easier. The downhill at the end made for a nice finish. I would do this race again because I loved the challenge, the sights, and because while there were very few spectators, anyone who stood outside in the pouring rain and 30 mph winds to cheer us on was a true inspiration.
By: Petrina H.
Posted: November 06, 2009
Hills and headwinds and drizzle - oh my!
Be prepared for LOTS of rolling hills. I ran the half with the retrospectively overly optimistic goal of a sub-two-hour finish. Not to be had with the challenging nature of this course, coupled with nature itself. But on the plus side, it made me feel more like a "runner" than any other race I've run - only a runner would brave a long run in the weather conditions.
Spectators were few, but those that showed were a definite boost to the spirit (special kudos go out to the man with the cardboard sign saying, "Your feet are hurting because you're kicking so much a$$" - nice comic relief to help me through that last stretch).
Organization was great. Nice expo. They could have been a little bit more prepared for the crappy weather. Staff was a bit too hasty in trying to get folks in and out of the food tent when several were just trying to find a dry spot while waiting for friends/loved ones to cross the finish line.
If I do it again, I'm definitely incorporated more hill work into the training. This was a tough course!
By: Erik H.
Posted: November 03, 2009
rain, hills and headwinds
Apparently I picked a doozy of a run for a first marathon. I loved the change in scenery, as we started in the city and moved into an area with gorgeous fall colors. The second half was considerably harder, as it was about 10 miles of long uphills and short down.
I must say, after traversing this course, and not only because it was my first marathon, I feel awesome completing this one. It was one of the hardest runs I've been on.
By: Bob Dyjak
Posted: November 03, 2009
Rain+Wind+Hills Equaled One Tough Day
City of Oaks was my 23rd marathon and 10th state. Although I read that the course was challenging, I did not anticipate the number of ups and downs experienced. The weather was a bummer and really made the trail portion of the course disappointing. I suspect on a cool, sunny day, it is really very scenic. The volunteers did a great job on a tough day - thanks to all! If you plan to do this one, do some serious hill training, up and down.
By: Claude Y.
Posted: November 03, 2009
Cold, rainy, hilly and a new PR!
There are lots of comments and complaints about the hills, but they were not steep and the downhills seemed longer than the ups. That said, there is very little flat running on the course. Considering the rain, wind and cold, this was a good run... actually the fastest I've run in eight tries.
By: Steve D.
Posted: November 02, 2009
Hills, rain, wind and mud. Loved it!
The challenging City of Oaks Marathon did not disappoint this year. Temperature was perfect (50's) but there was a lot (rivers) of rain, some gale -force wind in spots (briefly), and the trail part was splish-splashy muddy. But everyone running the full marathon seemed very upbeat despite the conditions. The crowds were great but there are a number of gaps of several miles with no crowds. But then, whoever was out there in that weather deserves a medal!
I like this course because it is humbling. It is much harder than Boston (I've run both) but it is very scenic. It is mostly uphill from mile 17.5 to 22, and that part is much tougher than Heartbreak Hill in my opinion. Just take it really easy and save energy in the first half (after mile 13, the climbing starts). I ran a negative split by four minutes!
By: James Spearman
Posted: November 11, 2008
Nice, but the hills killed me!
Because of the hills, this was a very challenging marathon. After finishing the race, I had to seek medical attention. The medical staff was very professional and friendly. I want to extend my heartfelt thanks to them.
I've never had to seek medical assistance before and hopefully never again. However, if I do, I hope the staff is as good as the City of Oaks!
By: Seth S.
Posted: November 07, 2008
Hilly course but nice views
Very hilly course but running through the park was nice. The course needs a couple of more water stations, but since the weather was cool, it was okay.
By: Doug B.
Posted: November 07, 2008
Awesome!
A tough course, but a very good one. Running through downtown was great, and going through Ulmstead was great, although coming back into town around mile 20/21 was a bit rough (not much to see, and not many spectators). This is not a course to expect a PR on, but I had a great time.
By: Chris E.
Posted: November 06, 2008
extremely well organized
Watch out for the back half of this race - 6 1/2 miles of uphill! Make sure you train for the hills.
By: Don G.
Posted: November 05, 2008
Good but Hilly
After many fits and starts, it appears to me that Raleigh finally has an organized marathon that will last.
What I liked:
Expo was easy to navigate. Pick up was a breeze.
Decent, but not a great technical, long-sleeve shirt.
Water stops were well placed and well manned. Enough people working them that they flowed nicely.
Spectators. They were not numerous, but at the spots where they congregated, they were enthusiastic. They were mostly on the half-marathon portion of the route.
Post-race food was mostly the standard fare (bagels, bananas, oranges, pizza), but they did have the wonderful chocolate milk truck (handing out pints of chocolate milk... great).
Fairly scenic: City portions through nice areas; rural portion through a great state park.
What I did not like:
The race was 4:1 half-marathoners. And everyone starts together. I have not liked this in other races, and it was even worse here where there were so many half-marathoners. The race stayed together until about mile 8. The combo start is always confusing to the marathoners.
With the size of the half, they dominate.
Course: Although they say it has hills, I did not realize just how hilly it would be. The hills are small (but everywhere) on the half-marathon portion (1-8) and (21-26), but in the middle of the marathon when you go around and through Umstead, you have real hills (both grade and distance). If you train on flat or are troubled by hills, they may be more that you bargained for.
Expo was small. Not much to see.
Spectators were good, but from about 10-20, you are pretty much alone.
Personal preference: They had GU20, and I just don't like the taste if it.
The mile markers were sitting on the ground. In the early miles, it was too crowded to see most of the markers. Get the early ones up in the air where you can see them.
I would not have used them anyway, but no pace teams.
By: Jeff P.
Posted: November 05, 2008
Beautiful, well supported, Hilly
This was my first marathon in three years, and I am glad I chose this one for my return.
The route was beautiful, varied, and well supported. I especially liked the beer table at mile 8/21.
The section through the state park from miles 15-18 was beautiful and an off-road change of pace.
Beware though. If hills give you pause, you won't like this course. It's quite hilly.
By: Matt J.
Posted: November 05, 2008
You're Almost There! But at Least there was Beer!
Telling people they're almost there at mile 9 is a bit patronizing. Saw several volunteers talking on cell phones rather than cheering on runners. Disappointing. I hated the section by the interstate on ramp. A few miles of just terribly boring scenery. To be fair, I think I had high expectations because of the City of Oaks title. The run through the park was very nice. I don't think I would run this race again though.
It was refreshing to see a race actually start on time, and the post-race set up was very convenient.
The spectators who brought beer at the end of the boring stretch around mile 22 are saints!
By: Jill O.
Posted: November 04, 2008
nicely organized, fun race
I ran this race this past weekend. It was so nice to have a well organized race as opposed to a marathon I ran last weekend. The expo was fun for both myself and a friend of mine who wasn't running. The directions were clear, and although I got there over an hour early due to forgetting to change my watch, it was fine.
The only thing that was annoying about the course were the turn-arounds where you would pass people who were either in front of you or behind you. I personally prefer actual loops or running on another road/street. I enjoyed the jaunt through Umstead Park, (I was disappointed Umstead's marathon filled so quickly at the beginning of the year, but at least I got to run a few miles in the park).
The volunteers were great, cheering us on and clapping for us at every stop. I enjoyed the random signs from some spectators.
For a smaller race, it was great. I enjoyed meeting new people during the race and the trainers/medical people from REX health care were very nice at the end when I needed ice as well. They did run out of pizza, but not to worry! They ordered more, so everyone got some (I was really worried for awhile there!).
By: Michael Leaf
Posted: November 03, 2008
Very challenging course
This marathon was the most challenging one I have run, and I ran the Charlottesville Marathon three years ago. I thought I had trained well for this race, as I live in north Raleigh and have trained in Umstead Park. I was completely unprepared, however, for the slow gradual climb exiting Umstead on Reedy Creek Road (miles 19-20), as well as for the small hills on Blue Ridge Road and Hillsborough Street. Those hills really drained me, and consequently, my pace dropped by 40 seconds per mile in those last 6 miles. I should have taken it easier in Umstead. If only - famous last words!
For this being a small race in its second year, I thought it was very well organized. Fan support was very light in downtown Raleigh, but then again, it was early on Sunday morning and the race is still relatively unknown. There was, however, a lot fan support in the last few miles.
The only negatives I can think of are that: 1.) the GU drink was VERY weak at every stop, and 2.) from the entrance of Umstead to the exit of the park, there wasn't a water stop. This wasn't an issue for me because I wore my fuel belt, but I couldn't help but think that those 4 miles were a long time for people to go without water or Gu drink.
Despite the challenging course ,I would run the City of Oaks Marathon again if I weren't planning to run the Marine Corp Marathon next year.
By: MaryLu C.
Posted: November 03, 2008
Definitely a local race
Six of us came from Chicago to do an NC marathon. Mistake. Good: For a small marathon, they have consistent fan support on the roads, lots of volunteers, water and energy drink, and the most beautiful fall course ever, especially in the park. Bad: The main host hotel is far from the start and expo, plus there's no transportation available except for elite runners and arranged vans for the charity runners. When we pointed this out, the organizer from the running store seemed annoyed that we came and did not think we would need to rent a car or need directions. No water stations from mile 15 before Umstead until about 18, as we exited. I needed Vaseline at about mile 12 and did not see a medical table until mile 19 (but then there were several to the end). Not a plus or minus, but if you do not train real hills, expect not to be able to walk well on Monday, even if this is your 30th marathon.
By: Kevin Nolan
Posted: November 03, 2008
A wonderful day in a beautiful area
This was my 21st marathon, and it was a great one. I really liked this tough course. It was a tale of two marathons: city for the first half and country for the second half. I would recommend this race to anyone. Extremely well run, with friendly people and beautiful scenery. No PR, but I had a decent time. Yes, there are lots of hills, but if you train on hills (as I do in PA), you'll be fine. The run through Umstead park was my favorite part. The leaves were spectacular. The start and finish in NC State is great. No complaints about the race.
The host hotel was the Marriott. It was expensive and they didn't do anything special, so if I was doing it again I would look for a cheaper hotel.
By: Candace Laughinghouse
Posted: November 03, 2008
My First Half-Marathon - I Made It!
Last year, I would not last two miles without dying. I completed the half-marathon for this event. Most of the trail was not difficult. But the last four miles were tough for me. I walked more than I ran in the last two miles. The hills are not bad, at all. If you train, you will make it easily. The weather was beautiful and the support was awesome. The best part is the final quarter mile, where everyone is cheering you into the finish. I was nowhere near the front, but they made me feel like I was medaling at the Olympics. It was a bit emotional for me. What a great event to run in Raleigh.
By: chance m.
Posted: November 02, 2008
Tough Course
The hills aren't ALL hype, but they're definitely there. Once you hit Umstead Park, the hills go up and up and up.
I ended up dropping out at close to 19 miles. I have never DNF'd in my life. I'm just counting it as a long run.
Aside from the challenge, it was extremely well organized, with minimal (but enthusiastic) crowd support.
The course was run through the city and then eventually goes out into the country through some nice neighborhoods.
Traffic was very much under control. The course marshals and police officers did excellent work.
Papa John's offered free pizza and there was chocolate milk afterward.
Overall, it was a well organized race with great support, pretty views and a definite challenge. This is not an easy course, and for me it wasn't much fun once the hills started kicking my butt, but I'm glad I ran what I could.
By: Winston R.
Posted: August 17, 2008
Very Nice Course!!!
I ran the half-marathon last year (2007), and am going to run it again this year. The course is hilly, yes, but it is not awful if you train for it. The first half of the course has been changed from last year. The start is now on centennial campus of NC State University, which has ample parking garages and should make getting to the race much less of a pain. The first 13.1 snake through downtown Raleigh, neighborhoods north of NC State, and the NC State campus.
Although I did not run the full marathon, I am very familiar with the course as I train in North Raleigh and Umstead State Park. The second half of this marathon is MUCH hillier than the first. Luckily, they have switched the direction of the route through Umstead. This means that most of the run down Ebenezer Church Road will be downhill instead of uphill. However, there are some good climbs in Umstead State Park, so be ready for that. The marathon also passes the NC State Vet School, which is very pretty. All in all, it should be a very good course for 2008.
Do not expect a whole lot of spectators on the second half of the marathon course. Ebenezer Church Road and Umstead State Park are not accessible for spectators during the race, so expect to run 5 or so miles with little fan support.
Weather is usually perfect this time of year in Raleigh, which is another bonus!
By: Kala P.
Posted: June 02, 2008
Great first-time experience
This was my first half-marathon and it was a great experience. The crowd support helped to keep you moving. It was great to see downtown in a much slower light and see what great work has been done to the area. The only complaint was that there were no supplements at mile 8 as promised. Made it difficult to get the energy that was needed if you had planned for the gel packs. For next year, I hear the course has changed slightly, and I look forward to doing it again!
By: Matthew D.
Posted: January 08, 2008
Tough but rewarding course.
I have run two other marathons (Atlanta and Richmond) and I think this was just as good as either of those two. I read several comments about the traffic, but I had no problems. (Traffic can be an issue at even a small race if you wait until the last minute to show up!)
The course was scenic and displayed the city and neighborhoods of Raleigh well. I trained at Umsted, so knew what to expect with the hills and lack of crowd support. However, it was very peaceful and the miles through Umsted went by quickly.
At about mile 12 when the half marathon splits off, it seemed like only about 1 in 10 runners went straight on the marathon course. Despite the fact that the second half is much more hilly than the first, I still PR'd and was very pleased!
I believe the volunteers did a great job and the race was very well organized, especially for an inaugural event. Splits were well marked and aid stations were plentiful.
The only negative comments I have are regarding the post-race food, which was sparse and not very well policed, as many non-runners helped themselves.
Overall, though, this is a great race and one I would recommend!
By: deedee r.
Posted: December 04, 2007
Organizers are definitely new to this
I ran the half as a warm-up for a full marathon. It could have been better organized. We were stuck in traffic for 30 minutes and got to the race at the last minute. Things were pretty disorganized at the start, and some people were still parking their cars when the gun went off. Volunteers were friendly and helpful and water stops were every 2 miles or so, plus a Gu stop at about 8 miles. Instead of Gatorade or PowerAde, they had something called Ultima, which tasted horrible and made my friend dizzy and a little queasy - I was very glad that I didn't drink any of it. The course got hillier as it went along, and the day was quite warm, so it was a good challenge.
This race is local for me so I'll probably run the half again, but they could use some help knocking the rough edges off. and I'll pass on the full marathon - 13 miles of hilly state park trails is more than my ankles can handle.
By: Karen L. Werner
Posted: December 02, 2007
It was HILLY but very nice
I really enjoyed this marathon despite not having trained for hills much.
In previous years, I ran the Marine Corps marathon in D.C. and the Richmond Suntrust Marathon in Richmond, Virginia.
This marathon did not have as many spectators, as it is a smaller race, but the people were out where it counted in the hilly section west of the city.
The start of the course was nice and wound east from the fairgrounds. The sun was coming up right in our faces, though, for several miles, and there weren't that many people out in the beginning.
The race went into the city and downtown and through some pretty neighborhoods.
I thought the second half of the race was really beautiful with the hills.
For some reason, it felt like I was in the park forever in the woods, but it was scenic as well.
I agree with one other reviewer that the end of the race and running around that stadium was not the best way to do it.
However, overall, I thought it was well-organized, had good people out there cheering for us, and ample water and water stops, along with the GU toward the end.
I even enjoyed the hills.
I stayed at a hotel within a mile of the start line, which was convenient as well.
The pizza afterward was much appreciated.
And, they even mailed me the technical-grade, long-sleeve t-shirt as I got to the expo toward the end and they had run out of them.
If I had not vowed to run a different marathon next time, I would do this one again.
By: Jean O.
Posted: November 17, 2007
Challenging marathon but a great one
It was a challenging marathon but I enjoyed the course despite the hilly second half. The race organizers did an excellent job putting this race together, especially since it was the first one in Raleigh for a long time. Super job by all the volunteers out there on the course cheering us on; there was great support on the entire course. A couple of areas for improvement are the finish through the RBC Center, which was very lonely, and also the post-race food, which was sparse. Thanks RRO and Sony/Ericsson for putting on a great race.
By: Paul R.
Posted: November 16, 2007
Interesting Raleigh event
Food (pizza) was eaten by the families of the runners or people watching the event. I guess they were getting a lot of exercise out there sitting on their butts as they do most every Sunday. Still very discouraging to finish at ~5:00 and have no food. Traffic needs to be kept under control in the morning. I was getting worried about getting there on time (and yes I did leave early). Last complaint: when you run 26.2 miles, let's try to keep it kind of short. There were some serious hills. I do not think I will be back.
Everything else was great for the first event and Raleigh Running Outfitters is always the greatest, so all other categories get high marks!
By: Paul P.
Posted: November 09, 2007
The marathon has returned to Raleigh!
First, a BIG thanks to the race directors, organizers from Raleigh Running Outfitters, and volunteers!
1. The course was indeed challenging (more challenging than Boston and less challenging than Grandfather Mountain). The Raleigh area is hilly; thus there is really no way to avoid a hilly course.
2. The course was very clearly marked in terms of both mile markers and turns. As I wear a watch and record splits, I did not feel that need for a clock at mile markers or the half.
3. Runners were very good about starting the race according to pace. Unlike many other marathons, e.g., New York City, faster runners did not have to weave in and out of slower runners during the first few miles.
4. The post-race food and beverages were wonderful! I know that the pizzas were not donated. I have never enjoyed a beer as much as I did the one I drank at 10 a.m. on that Sunday morning.
5. The pasta dinner was a gourmet feast. Much thanks to Chef Sarig!
6. The awards ceremony was very nice, and the Sony Walkman phone provided to the top three overall and masters winners was a very nice surprise and much appreciated.
7. Most importantly, the volunteers were incredible. I was encouraged at each and every water stop and closed intersection. What the race lacked in quantity of volunteers, it most certainly made up for with the quality of the volunteers.
By: Tim D.
Posted: November 08, 2007
Great Race - Almost Missed Because of Traffic
I signed up for the Raleigh 1/2 Marathon expecting the usual first-race problems - but amazingly enough the course was great, the start on-time, the volunteers perfect, the water stops well stocked, and the post-race food quite ample and tasty. My only frustration was with how traffic going into the race was handled. I left Brier Creek at 5:45 and got in line to get off freeway at 5:55. It took 50 minutes to go less than 1.5 miles as they didn't have a cop directing traffic at the light! This is a place that moves 60,000 people in and out for a football game and 19,000 people for a hockey game, but 4,000-5,000 people for a race and the whole thing gets backed up???
That's my only complaint though - I enjoyed the hilly course and the brisk weather, and I clocked my PR, so all in all, a great experience.
By: Rosie P.
Posted: November 08, 2007
Hills, Hills, Hills
My first and after this one I feel like I can do most any marathon. Very challenging and I train in Umstead, but I was not prepared for Ebenezer Church Rd. I finished around the 5 hour mark and didn't see the food but I did hear that there was some there, just not close to the finish line and I couldn't really walk much more than 10 feet afterwards. Being my first, I expected to see people starting at the 20 mile mark but the people were really just concentrated at the finish line by the time I finished and they were really great. I think maybe a mile marker at 1 mile to go and 1/2 mile to go would be very encouraging at the end. I really felt like mile 25 went on forever because I never saw any more signs or people on the course after that point, so much so I had to ask a boy walking in a parking lot if I was going the right way. Overall, I had a great experience and will be back once trained properly for such a challenging course.
By: Cindy D.
Posted: November 07, 2007
Great Run!
Great event and I'm confident it will only get better! Thanks to the RRO, the volunteers and the enthusiastic spectators - especially the drill sergeant who was downtown... he was the bomb! I'm already looking forward to next year!
By: Kim V.
Posted: November 06, 2007
So glad it's back!
I was very happy just to have a marathon in my home town so I would take just about anything. I thought the course was well laid out and had nice variety. Yes it's a hilly second half but hey, no marathon is easy. Volunteers and police support were great. Spectators were lean in some areas but those who were out were enthusiastic. Most importantly I think it's great to have a Raleigh marathon at all. Thanks to all the people who I'm sure put in countless hours to make this race happen. I hope it continues for years to come.
By: Charlie P.
Posted: November 06, 2007
Fun and challenging half marathon
We ran the half marathon. A challenging course with the rolling hills, but Raleigh is beautiful. Early Nov. is the PERFECT time for this race. I was very impressed with the organization and volunteers - didn't feel like a "first time" event. Parking was logistically tough, but the start at the fairgrounds was a great idea. We'll definitely be back.
Oh, a volunteer slapped my wife on the butt at mile 11, which was a little awkward and inappropriate, but I guess he was just excited to be helping.
By: Cameron K.
Posted: November 06, 2007
Another Great NC Race
This was an overall great experience. The organization was flawless, the course was scenic and challenging and the support was enthusiastic. It's already on my calendar for next year.
By: Jeff Milleman
Posted: November 05, 2007
Friendly folks but tough marathon!
My wife and I have run around 40 marathons and would rate this one as a difficult course and definitely NOT a PR event. However, the marathon is worth the effort because the hotel (Comfort Suites), convenient start/finish area, and enthusiastic crowds made it really fun and satisfying. I normally don't comment on these sites but wanted to give the Raleigh RoadRunners a BIG THUMBS UP!!
By: Anthony S.
Posted: November 05, 2007
Hill as Heck - don't forget about the marathoners
At this point I have come to expect certain things for race directors: good pre-race organization, a good pasta dinner, easy to get registration bags, a nice course layout, liquids and gels on the course, and good post race food. If anyone one of the above is missing, well the race director failed at their venture.
Starting off I have to say the RDs did a great job at most things: organization was really good, race support was excellent, and the course was good. Watch out for all you flatlanders like me, when they say flat they actually mean a slight up hill and when they say hilly you are running straight up and straight down. I don't think they understand flat in Raleigh (not a knock at all just a stmt of fact). A good challenging course none the less.
The issue I have is the RDs need to make enough money so they open the races up to 1/2 marathons and then forget about the marathoners at the post race. This really makes me angry!!! I was out there busting my hump for just about 4 hours and to come back and have no food except some stail bread and a green banana!!! O'yea there was pizza that was being eaten by everyone except people that ran the race. It is simple, if you have not run the race don't allow people to eat the food It is there for the runners not the general public! It turned an otherwise great day into me not recommending this race yet. I have to thank the bag check girls since when I went and got my bag they gave me muffins and bagels to help me replenish. Also, where was the sports drink after the race? Ultima tastes horrible but sports drink is still needed after the run. My best guess is that there was plenty of food when the 1/2 marathons finished but, as usual, the RDs did not plan accordingly for the slower marathons (although I never thought 4 hours was slow).
With that being said, I would skip next year '08 and wait for '09 to see if they have made improvements to the post race coordination.
By: Jessica B.
Posted: November 05, 2007
Great marathon
I thought that the organizers did a great job with this event. The race started on time and the weather was beautiful. I knew that this was going to be a difficult race because I trained on most of it at some point. Running it in its entirety was really nice and really challenging.
I thought the spectators were fantastic. This is not Boston or New York so you can't really expect to have the course lined with fans. I was pleasantly surprised at how many people did come out to show their support.
The finish line was well organized. There was water, fruit, pizza, and local beer. That beer was good!!
Since I knew what the course would be like, I trained well for it and did manage to get a PR. For anyone running this next year, I highly recommend weight training and practicing for the hills (definitely tougher than Boston).
By: Doug J.
Posted: November 05, 2007
Nothing special, but not a disaster
The course has some very nice aspects, including a beautiful stretch through Umstead Park. The last five miles are dull and dreadful, and they get progressively worse as you approach the end. After mile 24 you are literally running around the parking lot of the RBC Center. Organization was pretty good, although a 7:00 gun time is absurdly early, made all the worse by the fact that the first 4 miles headed due east into a blinding sun. Spectators were few but supportive. It's a race worth running, but don't put it high on your list.
By: Jennifer D.
Posted: November 05, 2007
Good race
Good things...
The course was challenging.
Spectators were great.
Volunteers were fantastic.
Water stops spaced frequently.
Not so good things...
No gel at first gel stop.
Only caffeinated gel at 2nd gel stop (not great for people with GI distress).
Ran out of t-shirts.
Ran out of pizza.
Wrote to organizers a few times before race and never received any response.
By: Brian P.
Posted: November 04, 2007
Terrific Weather; Great Course
I will be back next year.... I ran the half and really enjoyed the course. The support and weather were fantastic - we started out at about 40 degrees. Crowd support was pretty good, especially for first-year race.
By: Jay Soffian
Posted: November 04, 2007
Challenging but nice course, great organization
The first running of the City of Oaks Marathon went off without a hitch. Weather was perfect. The race started on time and there was no confusion along the course. Water stations every two miles till mile 20, and then every mile. Several handouts of Gu gel. Free pizza and beer at the finish. The volunteers were awesome.
Really, you can't ask for much more. I hope next year more folks turn out to cheer, but I'm very appreciative of those who did turn out.
The second half of the course has challenging hills. I've run the Cape Cod Marathon and I'd say it was slightly more challenging than that. A few folks I talked to who've run Charlottesville, VA said this course was *not* as difficult as Charlottesville.
I'd recommend this race to anyone looking for a smaller, challenging race with good organization and friendly volunteers. Don't count on super fast times or much crowd support and you'll be happy.
By: Mark Long
Posted: November 04, 2007
Perfect
The Raleigh area proved that they can conduct a first-class marathon. Everything was flawless. Count me in for next year.
By: Alan F.
Posted: November 04, 2007
Successful... for a Revival
The former Raleigh Marathon came to an end about 5 years ago when a forecasted snowstorm never materialized, but caused the cancellation of the event. (Keep in mind that Raleigh gets such little snow that any significant amount wreaks major havoc due to not having the snow-removal artillery that more northern cities have.)
Thus, I commend the organizers for pulling this together and providing a marathon in the Triangle region of North Carolina (Durham, Raleigh, Chapel Hill).
The course is really quite nice, with no awful out-and-backs, and a very challenging second-half that goes through about 5 miles of a beautiful, heavily wooded park that many local runners use for their weekly long runs. And it's NOT flat!!
The problem is that to guarantee financial success, the event was set up to have 2600 half-marathoners and only 1100 full marathoners. So for those who take at least 4 hours and 30 minutes, companions are few and far between. Plenty of volunteers out, though, and you get a lot of encouragement from bikers, walkers, and non-event runners during the park stretch, and then from various housing developments along a 5-mile stretch down a pretty "back road" to the main thoroughfares that take you to the marathon finish. But this layout and limited number of runners doesn't lend itself to the types of "spectator zones" set up in many other marathons.
Other shortcomings:
1. Essentially no music on the course. Many other marathons hire several live bands to perform at various parts of the course.
2. Only 3 clocks the entire course: at the halfway point, the 3/4 point, and the finish. I've run in other marathons that have clocks every mile.
3. Some awful drink concoction I've never heard of called Ultima. I'm glad they had it at the expo, because I tried it there. It tastes ok, but 10 minutes after drinking it I suddenly felt really horrible. So I ended up carrying 2 large bottles of Propel to get my electrolytes and just drank water at the stops. Other than getting it free or for a very low price, I don't understand this new trend towards using PowerAde (wretched!!) and similar lower-calorie drinks instead of Gatorade. It's a lot more pleasant to get some calories (on top of carb loading prior) from Gatorade during the race, rather than relying almost entirely on Gus, which also leave me feeling unpleasant if I have more than 2 during a race. (Gatorade bottles, unlike Propel, don't lend themselves well to being carried.)
4. Speaking of the expo, it was by far the lamest of any I've been to. I had to go hunting yesterday in several stores to find wrist bands and heel cushions after not finding them at the expo. Very few other useful and neat extra products that you find at better expos.
Ending with a plus, the marathon used wraparound-with-Velcro chip-timers - much better than having to thread the most common type through your shoelaces in a way that you feel sure you won't lose it, while also not having it rub against or put pressure on the top of your foot.
By: JD P.
Posted: November 04, 2007
Great re-inaugural race
What distinguishes a hill from a mountain? Okay, there were no mountains, but they felt like it by the time we got to the the 15th one or so. I'm from the Raleigh area and expected a hilly course, but I still under-trained and underestimated the size and number of hills AFTER coming out of Umstead Park. That said, this was a wonderfully organized marathon and beautiful course. My mother asked why they would put all those hills in a marathon, and the answer I gave is not the true answer. I said a marathon distance on any course is a challenge, and people run marathons because of the challenge, and this is just another type of challenge, and blah, blah, blah. The real answer is that Raleigh is just a hilly city and there is no good way to avoid them. The hilliness is magnified when you throw Umstead Park into the mix, and I wouldn't change that, since it gives the marathon its bucolic "character." So would I change the course? No. Was it a great marathon? Yes. Caveat emptor: it's probably not one that can be run for great time, but if the course is given proper respect, it's a wonderful marathon. I'll run it again but set my time goals accordingly. Congrats to the organizers for a great re-inauguration of the marathon for a wonderful city.
By: Dawn S.
Posted: November 04, 2007
City of Oaks - good marathon after long hiatus
First of all, I would like to thank RRO for getting this marathon organized. It took a lot of effort and it was a good experience running in it and I'm glad I was there to support a local race.
It was almost as if I ran 2 separate halves, as both had several differences. The first half was terrific - a flat course, with nice scenery, going through the neighborhoods. Also there were many spectators. The second half was not so good. Despite the hills, of which there were many, there was a lack of spectators. The course route did not allow for any significant spectator activity. I cannot fault the organizers for this; the course just did not lend itself to many good spectator spots.
After the race: There was some stale bread, but there was also fruit and pizza. There really didn't seem to be enough water or any other beverages. I didn't see a massage tent, but maybe I missed it.
The beginning of the race and the end of the race was organized very well. It just wasn't a PR course and I knew that going in. I may do the Marine Corps Marathon next year because it is much flatter and there is more to see.