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3.2
Average rating based on 65 Reviews

By: Andrew M.

Posted: October 09, 2008

Very poorly planned event.

When I signed up for the SEAFAIR marathon '08, it was because I would have a "once in a lifetime chance to cross the 520 on foot." I was well prepared. The website suggested using the shuttle from Bellevue to UW. However, they did not have enough shuttles and the majority of people were stranded on the wrong side of Lake Washington. They scrambled to get us to the halfway point. The bus driver was lost and no one knew what was happening. We stood on the side of the road for an hour or so and then began the half marathon. At the end they ran out of medals (VERY early). We were told that in compensation we could sign up for another event free of charge and our money would be donated to the hospital. I complained and was promised a refund. It never came and they stopped talking to me. The medal showed up almost three months later.
1.0

By: Craig S.

Posted: July 10, 2008

Short Course and Very Tough

Did anyone else notice that the course was way off a full marathon distance, like by about a mile? My friend's GPS watch measured 25.2 miles, not 26.2. So, I traced the route on Google pedometer and realized that they cut off a significant section of the course in Kirkland. Besides the short course, there were the other problems with shuttle buses and running out of cups cited elsewhere that give this year's race poor marks in organization. Although I liked running across the 520 bridge, I think that the course can be greatly improved. It is certainly OK and challenging to have hills in a marathon, but it does not have to be to the degree found in this course.
2.0

By: Mark G.

Posted: July 09, 2008

Will they deliver a better experience next year?

The comments so far are pretty accurate; there were numerous lapses on too many levels. I wrote a letter directly to the race director and to his credit, he admitted many of the shortcomings and promises wholesale changes for next year. As already stated, there were transportation and water/cups issues. Allowing for all the last-minute sign-ups probably did them in; they did not have enough resources or the nimbleness to handle the crowds - they should have known better. The record crowds were subject to the record heat - from there it was a lesson in resilience and patience. The course, while scenic in some areas, was also very challenging, especially in the second half of the race. Some hills forced many to walk. Many miles were shared with cars idling with their exhaust fumes - mix that with the heat, full sun, long hills, and lack of water/cups/water stations and you've got a challenging race-day experience. There were mile markers out there but no clocks. The expo was bare-bones, but the tech shirt, and race medal were great. The finish area was also bare-bones; little to eat, nothing cold to drink, and it was a long, hilly walk back to the host hotel. By far, the best part of the race was the volunteers out on the course. There were several turns but not a single one was missed. There were volunteers and law officers at every single point and they made sure we never tangled with traffic either. Also, many residents showered us with garden hoses along the way to mitigate the heat; thank YOU! This race needs a lot of work and the race director and committee seems to be aware of it. My hope is that novices will look at this day as an anomaly and won't be soured on entering other races. Constructive feedback from this website and others hopefully will help races/committees avoid the pitfalls of poor management, staging, and resource allocation.
3.0

By: David T.

Posted: July 09, 2008

Poorly organized event.

(I ran the half-marathon.) How to improve this marathon: 1. Hills are fine, but mountain climbing is ridiculous. Cut out hills that require the majority to walk. 2. Water every 2 miles, please. Teach the volunteers what to do - i.e., hold the cups out at arm's length. White cups for water; green cups for Gatorade. 3. Water at the start. 4. Offer peanut butter for the bagels. What was good: The finish....
3.0

By: Kristin E.

Posted: July 07, 2008

Nightmare race

This is my third year with this race. The first two years were fantastic, but then they changed it. If I had driven this course beforehand, I would never have run it. The hills are brutal, and I train on a hilly course. It's unforgivable that there were not enough shuttle busses and completely unforgivable that they let spectators on the busses when the line of runners stretched forever. It was NOT poor planning on the runners' part that caused so many to miss the shuttles. If you have busses "running from 5 a.m. until the beginning of the race" (7 a.m.), then I would say arriving at 6 a.m. should have been good enough. It wasn't. I ended up being dumped at mile 13.1 with hundreds of others (missing the running over the bridge, which is why I was running). THEN we got to wait for over an hour - with nowhere to sit and only one porta-potty - for the lead runners to pass so we could start. I have no idea what the "entertainment" was on the first half of the course was like, but it was nonexistent on the second half. Bless the locals who brought out the hoses. The icing on the top of the cake, though, was finishing and finding out that they had NO WATER BOTTLES. They ran out. AMAZING. There are stores all over the place, and they had little Dixie cups full of warm water to hydrate you after finishing in 90-degree weather. I could not take a bottle of water and sit in the shade, I had to stand on the cement with NO SHADE in order to drink water and rehydrate after the run. To add insult to injury, I have emailed the race director, and after a week have not received the courtesy of a reply. (A story in the local paper said that they had contacted all the runners, but I have received nothing.) I seriously doubt that I will ever do this one again. It was a disaster. I think I could forgive a "we messed up, and we are sorry," but ignoring the runners that you wronged is not okay.
2.0

By: Rick B.

Posted: July 05, 2008

A diamond in the rough; it's on my list for next y

I've heard and read a lot of negative remarks about this race, but I enjoyed it from start to finish. The expo was so-so, a one-day event. My only suggestion is: next year, don't stage it in a parking garage. I ran the half marathon and loved, loved, loved the course. It was scenic and challenging. The hill at mile 7 was very tough, but I chugged up it without walking. To me, the hills at 11-12 were tougher. I enjoyed finishing in Downtown Park, very shady and "comfy." Regarding the shuttle buses, I feel if runners had arrived earlier it wouldn't have been as big an issue. In my humble opinion, allowing family/friends to ride with runners to watch them start was a bigger factor, rather than the number of buses. I will run this race again in '09, provided the expo/shuttle issues are addressed. Crowd support wasn't overwhelming, but very supportive.
4.0

By: Ron B.

Posted: July 04, 2008

Should be on your annual 'Must-Do' list.

My wife and I ran this marathon together. It was hot, and I mean hot, but what do you expect at the end of June? It was hilly, probably the hilliest of the 34 marathons we have run. And, there was some confusion, not unexpected for a first-time course. Bottom line is that we loved it. The expo was well organized (my wife loved the store selling returned running shoes for $50), the pasta dinner was a good value, the volunteers and citizens were very helpful (particularly those with sprinklers and garden hoses). We loved the course, much of which was along or near the lake. The photos taken in this race, especially those of us crossing the floating-bridge, are keepers. The race officials made it clear that the runners should be at the bus stops as early as possible, with the buses starting to run at 5:00 a.m. By our standards, we were late (5:15), and found few runners and lots of buses waiting. We were quickly transported to the start line, where we took care of our pre-race business. After the race, we talked to a number of participants who grumbled about starting late or missing the bridge portion of the race altogether. We found that many of these had shown up at the bus stop at 6:30 or even 6:45, for a race that is supposed to start at 7:00. More buses would have helped, but tardy runners need look no further than the mirror for the source of their problem. I think that the organization responded to the problem quickly and correctly, first by delaying the race a bit, and then by bussing the runners to the halfway point of the marathon so they could run a half. As 90 percent of the runners were half-marathoners anyway, they still ran their race, though they missed the bridge run. While they did not affect our run, there were two problems that should be addressed; (1) the runner drop-off point was too close to the start line and quickly became congested with runners. This definitely slowed down the return of the buses. I expect that the buses could drop off the runners a ways away and let them take a warm-up jog to the start. Also, (2) I talked to one runner who had planned to be accompanied by six family members on the bus to the start. I imagine that not only would they clog up the bus, but also would slow down a runner getting to the bus in the first place. Let the family wait on the other side of the bridge for the runner to come by. The end of the bridge was near the bus stop anyway. In any case, though we are members of the 50-states marathon club, and seldom do a marathon in the same state twice, we are giving serious consideration to adding the SeaFair Marathon to our list of annual "must-dos."
5.0

By: doug c.

Posted: July 04, 2008

hot and hilly and not very well organized

I heard that this new point-to-point course added more hills than the old loop course. I can believe it. The toughest hills are on mile 7 and at the 23 and 1/2 mile mark. There are too many steep uphills and downhills, which put a lot of strain on your quads; and also because of the heat, you have the tendency to cramp up. Organization was not good for this marathon. When a city hosts a full and a half marathon on the same day, keep in mind that more runners will always run the half marathon. Now that the Seafair Marathon is a a point-to-point course, you need to have a lot more than 5 buses to shuttle over 5,000 runners to the start line. They needed to have more fluid stations on the course because of the hot day. They were spaced too far apart. They also needed more volunteers to hand out the fluids. I have never ran a marathon that had no race clocks on the course. What was up with that? They should have started the marathon about a half an hour early. What was good about the marathon? Crossing over the 520 Floating Bridge because there was a nice little breeze blowing off Lake Washington. The scenery was nice. It was nice going through the upscale neighborhoods of Bellevue and Kirkland as well as Medina and Clyde Hill. Also, I liked the neighbors with their garden hoses spraying down the runners. This was too tough of a marathon. Maybe I'll do the half marathon only.
2.0

By: Marge P.

Posted: July 03, 2008

Too Unorganized

I was very unhappy with this event. Too few port-a-potties, they ran out of cups, they ran out of medals for half-marathon walkers... the list goes on.
3.0

By: Henry R.

Posted: July 03, 2008

Keep the new course; change shuttle

Very challenging, hilly course; loved it! For those who want a flat course, try the Seattle Marathon in November. The shuttle was a huge problem; need more buses and a different drop-off point away from the porta-potty lines and start line. Also, dump the Gleukos sport drink. But keep the course....
4.0

By: Rachelle N.

Posted: July 02, 2008

steep hills, no shade, poor shuttles, chip time?

Thanks to everyone who cheered us on and sprayed us with water hoses and water guns. Why bother giving us a chip if there is no chip time or splits? What happened to the bus service? We waited in the shuttle line a long time and then other passengers seemed to be giving the driver directions to the start. We arrived 13 minutes after the scheduled start time and as we stepped off the bus the start gun went off. They did have enough water though.
3.0

By: Gene Morris

Posted: July 02, 2008

Extremely poor course

I run a marathon a month so I have been on most of the major courses. This had to be the worst. You had it right the previous years. The person who set this course is not a marathon runner, or at least has never run this course. Hills help to work different muscle groups, but this series of hills trashed the quad and put runners at risk coming back down. Unfortunately, you shot yourself in the foot for a great cause. The course demoralized the experienced marathoners and discouraged novices and potentially new marathoners. Get your organizer at least to WALK the course and you will get the point.
2.0

By: Kevin B.

Posted: July 01, 2008

Terrible race organization. Stay away!

I didn't get to run the marathon because there weren't enough buses to take all of the marathoners to the start. I'm talking over 400 runners who were stranded at the shuttle area. The race organizers told us we could run a half marathon starting at Mile 13. I registered for the marathon, but I needed to salvage something from this race day. BUT WAIT! Really, we had to wait over an hour for the marathon leaders to pass the halfway point before we could run. Unbelievable! This course is terrible: Hilly, unattractive, and boring. People in their cars were impatient and rude. This is the worst race experience I've ever had. I can say enough bad things about this race.
1.0

By: Lynn B.

Posted: July 01, 2008

I loved the hills and the course overall

I heard a lot of complaining along the way about the hills, but I thought it was a great run and have no complaints about the course itself. I have done two trail races this year that had killer hills so this was NOTHING! I am just glad to be out there with all the other runners and still have the ability to run another day. I loved the shirt, and loved crossing the bridge. We had no trouble getting on a bus because we planned to get there early, and I feel for those who did not plan so well and did not get the run they had trained for. I would do this course again and just prepare for limited water and porta-potties. The heat was not the fault of the organizers. It was a beautiful day in Seattle!
3.0

By: Mike P.

Posted: July 01, 2008

Great supporters and relentless hills.

I think a better course layout would include a start/finish at the downtown park and an out-and-back across the 520 floating bridge. Doing this would eliminate the costs of bus rental and potential coordination issues. Although the host hotel was nice and offered runners a great rate, it was too far from the start/finish. The volunteers and residents along the route made things happen. When stations ran out of cups, water bottles were quickly refilled and makeshift fountains were created. Many thoughtful residents charged up their hoses and lit off sprinklers in an effort to provide a break from the heat. They are the only reason I might consider running this race again.
4.0

By: Diane K.

Posted: July 01, 2008

Hot, Hilly, Beautiful, Poorly Run

We all knew this was a hilly run and the weather would be hot. The first 10 miles were hilly but beautiful, and there was lots of crowd support, with sprinklers, Vaseline, hoses, and otter pops. After 11, it was still hilly (as expected), but there was zero crowd support (need those cheers and sprinklers on hot days) and no shade after 16. There were no cups of water at the midpoint, so the only way to get water was if you carried your own bottle to refill. At mile 11 the water stop volunteers said, "We have no cups, but I can pour the water on your head, which is all you need." Huh? Don't get me wrong - BLESS, BLESS, BLESS ALL RACE VOLUNTEERS!! But warm water doesn't cool my body temp or rehydrate me if I can't drink it with 15 miles to go. By mile 18 the water was 90 degrees and there was no way to cool the body. Porta-potties didn't go much better than hydration. Before the start, there was a crowded 20+ minute-line to pee, and sparse porta-potties from there on out. Race instructions encouraged runners to use the shuttle (plus friends/family), yet they left 400 runners that never made the start. I ran across the finish line, but my results are not recorded after 30 kilometers. This course is challenging but beautiful, and worth the hills. Race organization needs serious work before ever contemplating running this again.
2.0

By: Ralph B.

Posted: June 30, 2008

Hot, hilly, great volunteers, sub-par organization

You can't blame a race organizer for record heat, but you can for several water stations running out of cups, busses being confused, and a host hotel a mile from the finish (and other attractions). Kudos to the police support and volunteers (several of whom gave you drinks from water jugs, fountain like, to make up for no cups). Course also had lots of hills, and no shade for the last 8 miles. For next year, start the race earlier, move the race hotel, get out a contour map, but keep the great volunteers.
3.0

By: Kyle D.

Posted: June 30, 2008

Never runnin' this one again

I can appreciate a tough course, which this one had. However, the aid stations were not evenly spaced. A couple of early stations had so few volunteers that people were lining up for water, and a couple of late water stations ran out of cups. The fan support was ok, but there was no entertainment on the course. I pre-paid for the pasta dinner as part of my registration, but no one at the expo knew anything about the pasta dinner.
3.0

By: Joshua H.

Posted: June 30, 2008

Amazing

This was my first marathon, and although the course was rough (with all of the hills), the organization and fans were great. I would recommend this race to anyone because it was a great course with tons of help along the way from fans and event staff. I will be back and and would like to thank all the volunteers for their support.
5.0

By: Andrew F.

Posted: June 30, 2008

not my favorite race

My first Seafair Marathon, and it did not make the cut on my list of must-run-again races. 1) Mandatory Saturday packet pick up. 2) Point-to-point course meant getting there at 5 a.m. to catch a bus. 3) Starting the 1/2 marathoners at the same time as the full - 5,000 runners with no clear line up as to projected pace. That made for a crowded, jostling first couple of miles. 4) Most roads were open to traffic with orange cones, giving us little room and safety. 5) They had overwhelmed water stations at the first two stops. It did get much better after that. 6) Gluekos drink. Who really drinks that? 7) We were ignored at the finish. Volunteers really should be checking on finishers to make sure they are OK. I found cups of hot water and orange slices at the finish. I did have a good time and don't usually complain, but compared to other races, this one did not seem to cater to the runner so much.
3.0

By: Demaris J.

Posted: June 30, 2008

Poorly organized... hope it improves for next year

The marathon committee recommended arriving early for the shuttle buses. I waited in line for 30 minutes to get on a bus.  The event scheduled 5 school buses to shuttle 5,000 participants on a 15-minute ride in 2 hours.  End result: delayed start.  The event was not appropriately staffed with volunteers at the water points.... I had to wait about a minute at the 2nd water point to get water.  Bless the spectators who set out their garden sprinklers to give the runners some relief along the course!  The course was very scenic, and I hope that it is better organized for next year's run.
3.0

By: Juliane Ross

Posted: June 30, 2008

Terrible course, but the shirt was cool.

The organizers made 400 runners miss the start because they didn't provide enough shuttles. The course was very hilly and we spent a great deal of time running next to idling cars (Read: inhaling car exhaust). Running on the 520 bridge was ok but not something to make me run this race again. This is the first time I've been able to get an extra small-size shirt, so that was nice. The neighbors along the route shared their sprinklers, which was great since it was so hot out. Oh, and my finisher's medal broke within 5 minutes. Try the Seattle Marathon instead!
2.0

By: Debbie Salzman

Posted: June 30, 2008

A hot and hilly, 2008 marathon

This year's course was constantly hilly, especially at the end. Not fun. The people with their garden hoses were my heroes, along with all of the great volunteers. A huge thanks goes to those who stopped to help me at mile 22. I got a severe calf cramp - thanks to Robert Reffkin, who walked the rest of the way with me. You rock. Next year, we need a real sports drink along with water. The Sucro did not cut it.
4.0

By: George P.

Posted: June 30, 2008

HILLY

The race organization is good, and the people are friendly. There were smatterings of spectators, but mainly just friends and family. It was blistering hot. Not much the organizers can do about that except make sure there's lots of water available, which for the most part they did. Now the route: The course starts by crossing a floating bridge. That was scenic and a cool way to start. Bellevue and the surrounding communities are very clean and scenic. That's the last nice thing I can say about the course. There are way too many hills. They start right after the bridge and don't stop until mile 25. If you look at the elevation chart, it's obvious there's a big hill at mile 16, but the rest of the course doesn't look bad. That's just a trick of scale. The mile 16 climb is so high (about 350 feet over 3 miles) that the other hills look small in comparison. They're not. I've run the other Seattle Marathon, and it's also hilly. With hundreds of miles of waterfront trails that never deviate from sea-level, surely the people of Seattle can figure out a less challenging route.
2.0

By: David K.

Posted: June 29, 2008

Holy smokes was that hard!!!

Prepare for this race by running hills, and wearing plastic sacks around your body!!! The hills were a killer! Crossing the floating bridge was fun, but the fun ends around mile six. That's where the hills begin, with a very steep one at mile 7; more moderate ones through about mile 10; then from 13-15 a long slow climb; then a short steep one around 18; then a long one at about 21-23; then around 24 (just when you're thinking it's all downhill from here), you turn a corner and, guess what... that's right, another steep one!!!!!! ARGH!!!! Finally, there is a crest near mile 25 and the sign on the bank tells you it's 90 degrees, and you say to yourself, "maybe this explains why I have been out here so long." Well the final mile is a gentle sloping downhill, but by this time, you're so tired and so wanting it to be over that there is no rejoicing. My advice for this race: Prepare, Prepare, Prepare!!!!
4.0

By: Amy D.

Posted: June 29, 2008

Hardest course I've ever run, and poor organizatio

The course was unbelievably hard. The elevation maps on the website gave no indication that the entire race was hard uphill. Steep hills for most of the race. And the highest grade is at mile 12+. The organization was terrible. We waited 45 minutes to get on the shuttle to the start. The race started 15 minutes late due to the shuttle problem. The weather was unseasonably hot and the aid stations were ill-prepared and too far apart. There were some spectators, and considering it's a small race, that was appreciated. The course needs some serious work if they are going to get any repeat runners.
2.0

By: Shannon S.

Posted: June 29, 2008

Hot and hilly, but super fun!

Running across the 520 floating bridge was beautiful and scenic at the start of the race. Well-organized and good aid station support, and fans in the residential neighborhoods were spraying runners with hoses and offering otter pops. :) The course was really tough - a giant hill for most of mile 7, and then pretty hilly the rest of the way as well. If they keep this course the same for next year, you'd better be doing some hill training!
5.0

By: Tory K.

Posted: June 29, 2008

Were monkeys running this marathon?

I have run this race three times as a half marathoner, and this was my first time as a full marathoner and I could not believe how disorganized it was. First of all, it was delayed by 15 minutes. Not a big deal, except that it was quickly getting hotter out by the minute. We live in the PNW. We wear shorts when it gets to 50, and start complaining about the heat wave at 62. (You think I'm kidding...) The loudspeaker guy was telling us all to line up on the course. The police office behind us was telling us all to get OFF the course because the road was still open. Never mind that literally if a car drove through the area we were on, they would have to drive over the start line. So we'd get off. Then the loudspeaker would say, "Start lining up! Get onto the course!" and the police loudspeaker lady would say, "Get off the street and onto the sidewalk!" Finally the race started and we were on our way. The first water stop was so disorganized that you had to stand and wait for water. I timed a two-minute wait. Later on, at mile 12, there were no cups at the water stop! They offered to poor water in our mouths. Um, I don't think so. Considering that by then it was mid-80s, that was NOT cool. Not only that, but they were within 2 blocks from a grocery store. Up until the point where we lost the half marathoners, every water stop was a scramble with no one who actually was holding water to hand out. You had to grab an empty cup and try to get the water into it yourself. What a difference from Grandma's Marathon a week earlier, where I practically had volunteers wanting to hold the cup for me while I drank! I almost missed a turn because volunteers were talking, and it was spectators who told me which way to go. At another point I was directed INTO traffic. Another point I was held up so traffic could cross... only for a few seconds, but hey. The worst, though, was that they ran the children's race on the same course at the end of the course, and funneled children and their parents INTO THE FINISHERS' CHUTE! First of all, I just ran a marathon for which I payed a pretty penny. I deserve to be able to finish without having to dodge children (there were at least five in there when I was finishing) and mothers in capris and flip-flops. The accomplishment of a marathon or half marathon is special, and it was wrong of someone with half a brain to decide, "Wouldn't it be neat if we had the KIDS there too?!" As I finished I ran up to the people with medals and was told, "Oh, your medals are back THERE; these are for the kids." Maybe that's not very PC of me, but I am sick and tired of every adult event being taken over by over-indulged children. (Nothing against kids. Love 'em to death and am a HUGE supporter of the children's races.) Second of all, it was dangerous, especially at the time it was held. It was JUST as the 5-hour mark was coming up. I'm a runner trying to come in within 5 hours, I am tired, I am stumbling, I am dehydrated... the last thing I am thinking is, "Oh, I need to watch out for the four-year-old in front of me in case she stops... which she is doing and turning back and running towards me. Why is she doing that? She can't do that!" I nearly collided with a child, and saw other runners do the same. I had been focused on the word FINISH and the sound of the person trying to pass me in the chute behind me. Not on the children. Third of all, this meant that very tired runners who really needed water, and fast, were fighting for water with kids. (Well not literally FIGHTING... that wouldn't be very PC either.) A volunteer was trying to hand me a cup of water and a parent was saying, "Take it, Johnny! Take that one!" and the volunteer is lifting it higher so he can't reach it, but I can, and the parent reaches for it. He just ran 100 meters. I just ran 42 KM... do ya MIND if I get a drink first? Put the kids' race on expo day, somewhere else in the park, etc. Don't NOT do the kids' race, but DO NOT DO IT WHERE THE ADULT MARATHONERS ARE RUNNING! Weather was unseasonably hot, but what are you going to do? It wasn't horrible when we ran along the lake, but once we got into town... oy vey! Two other friends and I (not running together) had GPS units and measured the course almost a full mile short. Good stuff: Love the new course. It is REALLY challenging and anyone who says it is fast is on crack. Don't be fooled. This course will challenge you. First there are hills, then more hills, then even more hills. Then, there are hills. Now I don't actually MIND hills and hey, with the short course I still made it under my "please don't let me be any longer than 5 hours" cutoff. (Although inside, the short course really harshes my mellow.) But it is not a great course for a PR! That's for sure! There were more volunteers on the course than I've seen in years past, and they were great. Supporters are still pretty sparse, but I think it's because they really need to learn how to make this a community event, not '"omething that those runner types do... and you know, they are kind of strange." Some marathons they need to look at for help with that: SLC, Grandma's, Eugene, Portland. There did seem to be more spectators than I remember in the past, but many of them waited for their runners and cheered only for them. We need some coffee shop or something to organize "cheer zones" like they have in NYC (I think Tulley's Coffee gave away free coffee and doo-dads for supporters) so people get "This is a sporting event and those people out there LOVE it when you cheer for them, no matter if they are 2:10 marathoners or 6:10 marathoners." Loved running across 520, and what a gorgeous day for it! Pirates were awesome! Love the cannon at the start. I will do this race again on the condition that they move the children's race to another spot. (Like they're just sitting around wondering what that chick in the skirt who came in at just under 5 hours wants before they plan next year.) Even with the problems, I'd run it again because it is a REALLY good challenge. Plus I had my own cheer squad (my husband) from mile 18 to the finish, and that rocked.
3.0

By: John O.

Posted: December 19, 2007

Keep this course - perfect time and course

I have heard a number of comments about the inability to run fast on this course - not true at all. I ran both Seafair and Portland this year and had a much better experience (and time!) at Seafair. The organizers should keep this route the same and quit trying to move it. It is well produced and scenic.
4.0

By: Mike S.

Posted: November 28, 2007

I'll never run this one again.

The 2006 edition was my first and ONLY time in this run. Advertised as a "flatter course," I can only assume the previous course simply ran over the tops of the local Cascades peaks. Water stops were spaced at odd and inappropriate intervals, the scenery was mostly boring concrete and tarmac, and the weather was hot and humid. It was entirely unpleasant - even the energy drink supplied (Sucro) was gut churning and, worst of all, seemed to provide no actual energy boost! The course was steep from the start; there was even what I called "God dammit corner" where you climb and climb from the start line, then get to a short, flat section before a right turn at around 3 miles. As you approach you can hear people swearing, and as you round the corner you see the steep hill in front of you and you curse just like everyone else! This course needs to be flatter and better-looking, and the organizers need to make sure aid stations are spaced evenly and supply something that WORKS, like Gatorade.
2.0

By: Amie B.

Posted: July 26, 2007

A great scenic run - complete with pirates!!

I ran this race instead of Seattle in order to get a smaller race feel. It provided. There were not many runners so I was able to meet some great people on the course. Everyone was really friendly and helpful. There were plenty of porto-potties at the start and enough throughout the race. The volunteers were really nice and seemed to have a good time. The miles are marked well and there were so many police directing traffic that I never felt unsafe. I would run this race again. It was peaceful and scenic. It is really hilly, though, so be warned. I ended up just slowing down and enjoying the race. I loved the pirates at the end too!
4.0

By: Ross K.

Posted: July 18, 2007

Challenging course, matey

The pirate theme was fun right from when they fired a cannon to start the race. Lots of hills, both up and down. Wouldn't think of this as a place to set a PR, but it was my best by 7:40 and even had a negative split as an added bonus. Volunteers were very supportive, and police did an awesome job with traffic control. I felt very safe on the course. Jamba Juice at the finish was really a nice bonus. Good value for the money and a very nice, small marathon. Spectator support is very sparse. Race started right on time. The only thing I might suggest would be a slightly earlier start to beat the heat. Congrats to the race director, volunteers and the police department!
3.0

By: Jim Daigneau

Posted: July 14, 2007

Well organized and fun... not a PR event though

Wanted to run an early July marathon in the Seattle area and Seafair fit the bill! A very well organized event start to finish, nice finisher's medals, hilly but scenic course (ensure you are well trained for this race :-)). Really enjoyed this race weekend and highly recommend it! If you want a a faster, flatter early July race... suggest running the HSBC Calgary Marathon... if you want fun, scenic and enjoyable challenge... run Seafair! I've run both Seafair and Calgary Marathons... recommend them both, although for different reasons. Thank you, Seafair organizers, for a great race experience (and a few hills...:-)).
4.0

By: Hazel Chase

Posted: July 13, 2007

I love hills!

This is my favorite marathon course. It went fast and was never boring!!! Lots of hills and lots of turns. The hills are not long and gradual; they are short and steep!
3.0

By: Dotty M.

Posted: July 11, 2007

Pirates, Hills, and Heat

There has already been plenty of warning about the hills, so enough said. The same with the small water cups. I tried to be thoughtful, but one cup per station just didn't cut it in the heat. On the positive side, it is a beautiful area of the country, and we were blessed with some cloud cover for about the first hour. While it got warm (mid 70's), we were fortunate that the real heat wave didn't hit until a day or two later (low 90's!). I got a kick out of the "standing room only" area of the porta-potties at the start just for the guys, which helped keep the lines down. The finish line moved well, and there weren't any backup with the chip removal. I liked getting my finisher's medal from a "hunky" pirate (the guys could choose a "princess")!! Pictures with them at the finish would have been the icing on the cake! As for areas for improvement (or things to be aware of), the race hotel is about a mile from the start/finish area. It actually was a nice walk (both warm up and cool down) for me, but be prepared. I found the start to be a bit confusing. Apparently the marathon/half started at one place and the 5K at another. I wandered around awhile trying to figure out where the marathon start was, as there were no signs. The information booth is in the middle of the park, though, so I got directions from them. However, several people stopped me (as I stopped others) to see if I knew where the start was. A sign or two would have been helpful. Also, it would have been wonderful if they had offered some ice at the water stations in the last few miles. It is a summer race, and I learned from other races in warm weather that putting some ice in my cap or on my neck really helps in the heat. Having had that in the last two summer races I ran, the ice was very much missed this time. Along that line, I had heard so much about the Popsicles as the finish that I was very disappointed that I didn't see any this year. Why did they stop, or did I just miss them? Be prepared for the incline at the finish. It's not extreme, but I'd call it "disheartening" when you see this incline ahead at 25-1/2 miles! Finally, was there an award ceremony? I had to check out of my hotel, so I went back, cleaned up, checked out, and was back at the finish area around noon. Some of the vendors were already breaking down their tents, and I didn't see any evidence of giving awards (but the website said there would be awards 3 deep in each age group). The results showed I got first in my age group, so I guess they'll mail me something. I still can't find any info on the website about this, and some clue as to how things would work would have been appropriate, in my opinion. Overall, it was a good race for a summer one, and a way for me to check off Washington state in my 50 states quest.
4.0

By: BK G.

Posted: July 11, 2007

Good Organization, Variety, and Pirates!

The theme of the Seafair pirates with volunteers dressed like pirates at the finish and some of the aid stations added something fun and unique. The race gear also sported pirates... I hope they expand on this fun theme. This course has variety in hills, scenery, interesting curvy roads, passing numerous neighborhood parks, and some suburbia as well. The traffic control was amazing. Race organization covered all the basics well - like packet pickup, start time, finish area management, posting of results... and a great post-race band. The aid stations were well stocked even though they did seem to be spaced a little off the mile mark in some cases (I think just due to physical constraints). These were some of the most enthusiastic aid volunteers I have ever seen and I was a 4-5 hour finisher... they still had plenty of cheer for me. Thank you. I enjoyed this race, but approached it totally differently from other marathons in that I slowed down and enjoyed myself. The pace calculator on the Seafair Marathon website was awesome... I used it as a guide, and it was very very close to perfect. With all the terrain changes, it was nice to have a place to start. Might be on of the best summer marathons around. Run responsibly and have fun.
4.0

By: Steve K.

Posted: July 08, 2007

Beautiful Rolling Hills

Not being from this area of the country, I found this to be a well-organized marathon through scenic back roads. The terrain was certainly not for the faint of heart. It is easy to be overwhelmed by the hills. I didn't mind the inclines as much as the declines, which are also plentiful and, at times, steep. The marathon is small. Many more people are participating in the relay and the half, but the support is there for all to benefit.
3.0

By: Subhasish B.

Posted: July 08, 2007

Nice challenging July marathon

I was whiney after my race experience last year but this year I knew what to expect and had a more positive experience. This quote from Bill Rodgers on the race web page summarizes the attitude to run this one with: 'The best marathons are the ones with hills. That makes it a road race. Otherwise, it's a track race. London and Chicago are so flat that they're essentially track races. This is not a PR course. It is challenging but sometimes dealing with a challenge is good for you. It is well organized. The food at the finish was great. I appreciated the watermelons and sliced oranges. The medal and finisher T-shirt was top quality. The volunteers are friendly and nice. I only wish there would be 1 more water stop in the first 5 miles. It's the most challenging part of the course. This is a good July marathon. The weather was great, especially considering that the rest of the US was negotiating a heat wave. Don't expect any support/"fans" apart from the volunteers and cops. So I'd recommend doing this marathon but don't go in for it under-trained (the hills will not treat you well).
3.0

By: Robbie H.

Posted: September 12, 2006

Wow

The course was beautiful, but challenging. I loved the popsicles at the end. The volunteers were great. I was disappointed with the accuracy of the results. Neither my wife's nor my own results have ever been posted, and my daughter's results did not show age, sex or division. I have tried repeatedly to get this straightened out, but no response from race organizers.
3.0

By: BK G.

Posted: July 21, 2006

Great if you like hillier courses

If you like up and down courses, then this is a pretty good one. If you like 'flatish' - this is not for you. Marking of course was good. Intersection control for traffic had to be a huge job and the local police and other volunteers did a stellar job. Organization was average. While the volunteers were hugely appreciated, the water stops were too close or too far. The course map often did not reflect the actual location of the water stops. This was a big deal and my biggest criticism because it was pretty warm and muggy. Start was right on time and the finish seemed to be handled very smoothly. The technical shirt was very high quality. There were clumps of enthusiastic spectators, but if they are a high priority for you, this isn't the race for that.
3.0

By: david s.

Posted: July 17, 2006

79TH MARATHON ON 7/9/06

I put this race on my marathon schedule in the spring because it fell on my birthday. I had scheduled this race to be my 80th marathon on my birthday, but due to a mishap at another marathon, this was my 79th marathon and it fell on 7/9, which was a strange coincidence. This was my 12th worst marathon time. What this race had in common with other races where I've done worse is a hilly course and warm conditions. This is a rolling course and the weather was warmer than normal for the Seattle area. If you have any energy left after battling the hills, miles 20-25 tend to be downhill. I will not repeat a lot of what was said earlier but I want to comment on the fluid situation. I did not consider myself one of the faster runners at this race. I ran a 4:12 and found myself getting dehydrated and running out of energy once I hit the above-mentioned downhill section. There were plenty of cups at all of the aid stations I passed, and yes I was one of the runners taking 3-4 cups at each station. The cups were very small, so that's why some of us were taking 3-4. Even after taking 3-4 cups at each station, it was still hard to stay hydrated because these cups were so small and it was a warm day. The replacement drink was called "Gluco," something which I used for the first time the night before the race (there was a sample in each race packet). I tried the sample and I was thinking this stuff isn't so bad after all. The sports drink on the course may have been a lttie diluted, but I'm not sure because I don't have a lot of experience using that drink. My only negative thing I have to say about this event is the small cups and the choice of sports replacement drink. I wish race directors would stick with what most runners are used to such as PowerAde and Gatorade. These specialty brands aren't used by most runners and are cost-prohibitive for the average runner (Ultima, Excelerade, and Gu are a few others that fall into this category) I know the Gluco drink was a sponsor and the race director got the stuff free, but most runners don't drink that stuff and most of us aren't going to buy and start using that stuff. A lot of these races cost up to $100 to enter and I'd like to see race directors use replacement fluids that most runners use. Some of these exotic drinks are geared toward the elite athlete. Except for the fluid replacement situation, this is a decent event. Good organization, good course markings, nice shirt, ice cream at the finish, nice view of the Olympic Mountains on one of those hills. Even though I did not run my best at this race, I would do it again because it falls near my birthday. I hope next time the weather will be a little cooler.
2.0

By: Steve J.

Posted: July 15, 2006

Challenging Course - Beautiful City

Course - Coming from the flat-lands, this was my first hilly marathon. The Flying Pig has some hills, but not like this. The first five miles are uphill and the quick descent through mile 8 or so really put a strain on the legs. However, it's the most scenic part of the course, so keep it slow and enjoy it. You'll need the extra energy later. The next few miles weren't as challenging, but having to dodge the half-marathon walkers was a pain. While my aching flat-land legs made the hill at 13 difficult, the real challenges are the hills at 16 and 20. The worst part of the whole course, though, was the last 1.5 miles. You're running with the north-bound backed-up traffic sucking down carbon monoxide. My suggestions 1) Leave in the hills - they're a good challenge for us flat-landers in July! 2) Re-route the half-walkers on a parallel street 3) Re-route the traffic off Bellevue Way. Organization - Picked up my packet early Friday to beat the Saturday rush. Glad I did. I had to go from one room at one end of the expo to sign in and to another room at the other end to get my goodie bag. Was glad to see lots of volunteers on the course at interchanges. We'd all be roadkill if it weren't for them. Compared to the course maps it seems some of the H20 stops were misplaced. I don't know how many people are used to Gluekos but it tasted like Alka-Seltzer. Finish line goodies were ok; could have used some more bagels though. My Suggestions - 1) Put both the bib pickup and goodie bag pick up in the same room so it's not so difficult. 2) Make sure the water stops on the course coincide with the maps; it's essential to planning a course strategy. 3) While Gleukos might be great for rehydration, go with what people are familiar with - Gatorade or PowerAde. 4) Have some more bagels at the finish. Spectators - Not many. This isn't a big marathon and I didn't expect to see big crowds. There was however one enthusiatic dude I saw at least 5 times on the course cheering everyone on! Thanks guy! The only disappointment was the finish line. Almost no reaction from the spectators as the finishers came in. Maybe some prodding from the PA announcer might help. Overall - There are not many marathons in July and this is a georgeous part of the country this time of year. If you like a challenge and don't mind the small crowds (I actually prefer them), you'll enjoy this run. I did and I'd run it again.
3.0

By: Doug M.

Posted: July 11, 2006

Highs and Lows

Highs: + Strong, friendly support, including many friendly professional ski patrollers. + Quality Adidas technical shirt. + Good quality/interesting medal. + The tops of the seemingly continuous rolling hills. Lows: - The bottoms of the seemingly continuous rolling hills (was there a single flat spot on the course?). - Nothing to drink at two consecutive aid stations (perhaps the faster runners used 3-4 cups each?) unless you were willing to fish a used cup out of the trash can or have them pour some directly in your mouth from a 2.5-gallon container. - Only one Gu shot early in the race... missed later as promised. - Strange course.... I think they were running us around in circles trying to disorient us.... Just endless neighborhoods without lake scenery. - Minimal/low fan support.
2.0

By: Scott R.

Posted: July 10, 2006

Better Than the Seattle Marathon

I ran the [Bellevue] Virginia Mason marathon each of the last two years. I found the 2006 course less difficult and somewhat less scenic. Overall the coordination and race support were outstanding! This is very good early summer marathon!
4.0

By: Shawn B.

Posted: July 10, 2006

An exercise in masochism

Pros: - Great organization: packet pick-up, expo, race day. - Very friendly and nice volunteers. - Awesome finisher T-shirt (finally a race shirt that you can wear). - Neat medal. - A July marathon (the weather this year was inhospitable - 66-70+ (F) at finish, and sunny - but that was warmer than normal. It's one of the few places in the US that you'll actually be able to run a summer marathon in decent conditions, so it fills a much-needed void. - Decent post-race refreshments. I have seen much worse. - A mens-only standing porta-potties at the start. No lines there. Cons: My comparison is based on the six marathons (MCM, Philadelphia, Boston, VCM, Steamtown, Richmond) and one 60K (Knickerbocker) that I have run. - Course: Brutal. Easily the most difficult I have ever run (including the Boston Marathon hills or Knickerbocker - Central Park hills). Analyzing the elevation data I picked up during the run explains why. There is a total ascent of 1900-odd feet, and descent of 2000-odd feet. The Boston Marathon has a total climb of 900-odd feet and a descent of 1400 feet. The Boston and Central Park hills are relatively more comfortable to deal with. Some highlights here: You start off with a 500-odd feet of ascent over the first 5 miles. In mile 7 you see a steep descent of 233 feet, 100 feet of ascent in mile 9, a 150-foot ascent in mile 13, a 126-foot decline from mile 14.5-15, a 112-foot incline from mile 16.5-16.8, a 100-foot incline in mile 19, a 155-foot decline in mile 21, a 156-foot incline from mile 21-21.4, and a 225-foot decline from mile 21.4-22. Then there are small climbs all the way through to the end where even a bump has an impact, especially considering the earlier course topography. If you run this you definitely need to do significant hill work else you will be exposed. - Course Scenery: Eastern Washington is a very beautiful part of the country. Unfortunately, this course shows off none off it. The closest you come to seeing something scenic is on the Bridle Trails. Apart from that you're passing by stores, highways and other uninspiring stuff. - Crowd support: Non-existant. You're on your own if you are looking for support from the locals. You have to go to towns like Scranton, PA or Burlington, VT to see the kind of support the runners get there. There the locals seem to come alive for their race on marathon day. - You have to pay for the post race massage. - Water stops: Didn't appear to be evenly distributed. They seemed to be more concentrated in the sections where the half marathoners share the course with the runners. On a day like today there were parts where I pined for fluids. I wasn't too thrilled with the Gleukos sports drink either but that might have been psychological.
2.0

By: Lori M.

Posted: July 10, 2006

Great race - well worth the effort

Bad news: Relatively hilly route. Good news: The "bigger" hills were fairly well spaced. - Porta-potties were sufficient. - Aid stations seemed appropriately spaced apart; however a couple of them had run out of cups and were giving runners water via their hands. Didn't find any oranges at any of them which was a bummer. - Course attendants were for the most part not enthusiastic at all. Most barely said a word as we trudged on by - Finish line food was ok. Popsicles were a HUGE hit as well as the fresh watermelon and Jamba Juice smoothies. This was my 2nd marathon and I broke my PR by approximately 12 minutes. Since I live in the area I'll most likely be running this one again next year.
3.0

By: Antoni H.

Posted: November 29, 2005

New course for 2006

For those of you considering this race for 2006, they have changed the course. The steep decline at mile 7.5, the run along the lake and the mile climb out of the lake at mile 14.5 have been removed. Instead there is a less steep climb starting just before mile 3 that lasted for about 1.5 miles. Personally I wish they would have left the course alone as I wanted to give it another shot. But this new course should still be a challenging course; it has still got its share of ups and downs.
3.0

By: ciadelle h.

Posted: August 29, 2005

Loved the hills, but what about ICE CREAM!

This was my third marathon and I thought it was extremely well organized. I ran Tucson last year and thought it was really lousy -- organization and course. I would not, however, recommend eating at PF Chang's the night before. I puked my entire carbo load due to food poisoning. Ick! The Red Bull stop saved my life!! I'm always disappointed when there isn't any ice cream at the end. Contrary to most runners commenting on this marathon, I liked the hills. A consistent course (up, down, or flat) wears out your muscles faster than a course with hills. Yes, there were 2-3 significant climbs, but they were short.
4.0

By: Ken C.

Posted: July 20, 2005

Not a flat and fast course as advertised

Great organization!! Great support from everyone. They thought about every little details, especially for a first marathon. Easy access to the starting line from the host or downtown hotels. Nice post-race party. This is not as flat as they advertised. The elevation chart does not give you any idea how rolling this course is. This was a difficult course for me. Hard to get into a groove since you are constantly going up or down. One very steep downhill at 8.5 miles. Too steep to run down!! Course is picturesque in some areas. Not great, but better than most. Finally, it is for a good cause: Lung cancer research. Run this one if you are not looking for a fast time.
3.0

By: Christie H.

Posted: July 16, 2005

pleasant, although not perfect, first marathon

After reading everyone's comments - I have to add my 2 cents. I thought it was a great marathon. It was my first marathon, so I don't have a lot to compare it to. There were a lot more hills than the elevation chart or online pictures indicated. I grew up in Florida (very flat) and train in Eastern Washington (mostly flat); even so, I didn't think the hills were overbearing. I would like to see the uphill finish altered, but the course itself wouldn't scare me away from running the marathon again. And although I couldn't set a PR because this was my first marathon, I still finished 15 minutes faster than my goal. I thought race itself was great. A good number of runners, but the wide roads throughout didn't make the race feel congested past mile 1. All the volunteer staff was very friendly and the somewhat sparse spectators (probably because it was impossible to drive anywhere near the race) were rooting for everyone. Great race atmosphere and perfect weather. Hats off to the police, they did an excellent job of controlling the traffic. The only two complaints I have with the race were the absence of the gels (as advertised) at mile 10, and the fact that they messed up the results. I completed the marathon, returned their timing chip, have the finisher's medal, and enough video footage to bore my own mother and yet I am listed as incomplete in the results. Very disappointing, especially for a first-timer. I thought the race organization was great, except for this one point I am hoping will be resolved.
3.0

By: sharon s.

Posted: July 15, 2005

pretty but tough

Good job on the race, but they ran short on sports drink around mile 12 so; just water after that. Lots of hills, but I knew that. It is Seattle, so just enjoy the beauty.
3.0

By: Dave C.

Posted: July 15, 2005

Nice race, very hilly and well supported

This was a nice race. The course was more hilly than anticipated and advertised (the elevation map really doesn't show the declines) and the declines were long and steep. There were few spectators but those that were there were cheering for all of us. There was plenty of water at the water stops (4-hour time) but I would have liked something sweet like cookies at the end. Support along the way and at the finish was great. There is Mt. Ranier and other scenery arond Seattle, and great fresh fish to eat. I would recommend this race as a good one, but not a PR race because of the hills.
4.0

By: Jeff N.

Posted: July 14, 2005

QUADS BURN, BUT A GREAT MARATHON DESTINATION

Four of us from the Chicago area ran this race, so the race was only part of the attraction of a 4-day race weekend. We love the smaller, picturesque courses where the scenery and the staff leave an indelible positive memory. Mike and his staff were great. Now for the course.... I have run Big Sur and Mount Desert (Maine), so I know hills! This course had fewer uphills that Big Sur. The course had steeper hills than Mount Desert, but not as many. Anyway you slice it, the challenge of the hills plus the challenge of 26.2 miles give one a greater sense of satisfaction than a flat course. If you want flat, fast, and a fun place to visit, do Chicago with 39,999 of your friends. My minor gripes about this event were the sparse crowds and the lack of specifics about the severity of the incline of the hills. I probably would have trained differently. My delight was with a pretty course and great police and volunteer support. The little dislikes you see in other runner's comments will probably be fixed before the next running. What should not be understated is how AWESOME the area arround Bellevue/Seattle is. Mt. Ranier, Bainbridge Island, Pikes Market, and countless other places we did not have time to get to. Definitely a destination for 50-staters or anyone wishing to have the complete marathon-weekend experience.
4.0

By: Ryan O.

Posted: July 13, 2005

Great course, well organized, fun race.

This was my third marathon after San Diego and Phoenix Rock & Roll and I enjoyed this marathon far more than those much larger races. The course was not a pancake but I didn't feel there was any portion that would totally kill your race. In fact, I PR'd by fifteen minutes. More importantly the route was diverse and scenic - you ran through downtown Bellevue, along a beautiful lake, on a narrow tree-lined pedestrian path and alongside city parks. This was a cozy race but not lonely; I had people to run with the whole way and didn't have to fight my way to the water stations (which were well-placed and numerous). It was also nice to join the half-marathoners and have lots of company late in the race when the going gets tough. The expo and recovery area were great, and it was nice to just walk to the starting line three minutes before the gun went off (unlike Phoenix where we stood on the starting line for 45 minutes). Overall it was well-organized and the course was great, a true runner's race.
4.0

By: Cindy M.

Posted: July 12, 2005

Great - would do it again in a heartbeat

I had a wonderful time! I enjoyed the challenge of the hills - all of you that can't take it - stick to Grandma's in Duluth, MN. The hills are a welcomed change and provide good testing grounds for your stamina. Well organized for the first time and a double plus that it was not an out-and-back course. Way to mix it up Bellevue - this one separates the pack.
4.0

By: mary m.

Posted: July 12, 2005

I loved the challenge!

Man oh man were those hills tough! But I feel anyone who can complete this has earned major bragging rights. The course was hard, but very beautiful. The spectators were fantastic too. It's a runners race, not all of the hoopla that other races have.
5.0

By: Ryan F.

Posted: July 12, 2005

Tough course - well organized 1st-year event

Not a place to go if you want to PR. However, for a first-year event (1st year for the full) it was an extremely well organized race. I thought the hills were a bit tough at times but not until I've read everyone else's comments do I see that I'm not the only one. PROS - Small but good fitness expo - Easy to reach start/finish area - Great weather - Traffic control was excellent - Nice views throughout of city and lake - Plenty of aid stations CONS - Hills were constant, both up and down. There was an incredibly steep decline past mile 7 as well as a large incline on the pedestrian trail just past mile 13 and then around mile 20-21 a ridiculous climb. - Didn't have one of the Clif Bar stations at mile 10 - Only once did they have the overall time listed (at the halfway point) - The stretch to the finish was uphill - More food variety in finish area would have been great Great race organization for a 1st-time event.
4.0

By: Tim S.

Posted: July 11, 2005

Well executed challenging race

Overall, the organization was superb. My only complaints were: 1. The 25-minute lines for the toilets--they need at least twice as many toilets at the start; 2. If they advertise a Cliff-shot stop at 10 miles and don't provide it, a lot of us run low on energy by mile 18; 3. The steep decline after mile 7 is way too steep for a marathon--on a bike, coasting, I hit over 40 mph; and 4. The AminoVital was mixed up at different concentrations along the course--a consistent recipe would be nice. The police and community support were great, and the weather held up well for those of us running it in less than four hours--rain came after that! The wide roads and blocked traffic were terrific along the whole course.
4.0

By: Chris H.

Posted: July 11, 2005

Bad Course Info, Okay First Event

This was a pretty well organized marathon for a first year, although they've had the 1/2 for two years previously and have had time to work out the kinks. Good course support, plenty of water, but the replenishers left a lot to be desired. Not a fan-friendly event except near the start & finish. Could have done a better job in the recovery area with food, drink, etc. What wasn't good at all was the course. This was one of the hilliest (downs might have been worse than the ups) and most unpleasant courses I've run. If we had had heat like Saturday late morning, a lot of people would have been in trouble. SeaFair kept playing down the toughness of the route, which was misleading in my opinion. Cannot recommend this event.
2.0

By: Rick S.

Posted: July 11, 2005

Obscene Hills

These hills had no business being in a marathon. The incredibly steep and long decline at Mile 8 punishes your quads and you should see the switchback incline at mile 15 - not to mention the huge hill at mile 21 which is nowhere to be seen on the elevation chart. The race director commented in the newspaper before the race that there was 'nothing like Heartbreak Hill'! There will SEVERAL hills way worse than Heartbreak Hill!! More disturbing is that I heard the organizers were given other course options to flatten it out into nearby Redmond or Kirkland. But for some reason they decided they wanted the entire marathon within the city of Bellevue - at the expense of the runners. I will never will run this course again.
3.0

By: Antoni H.

Posted: July 11, 2005

Ouch! Up or Down, Never flat.

This was my 4th marathon, and most challenging. The course is never, well almost never, flat. The first 7 miles consisted of rolling mild hills with a net gain in elevation. At about 7.4 miles there is a steep down hill, followed by a small uphill before you get to the lake. Along the lake it is a net evelation loss. When you get to mile 14 you have about a 1.25 mile climb out of the lake and until mile 20 again rolling terian. After that it is a long down hill section. And then flat or slightly rolling terrain to the finish. Spectators are very sparse, but I really don't care about that. The ones that were out there were very positive in there support. Positives: the course is very nice and the aid stations well stocked. Trafic control was excellent and they always had at least 1/2 the road closed so you were never crowded onto a narrow shoulder. The weather was great, early July in Seattle area is pretty mild. The expo was small, but well organized and efficent. And the race start/finish were very smooth. Negatives: They promised gels at mile 10 and 20, but they were only at mile 20. The Accelarde at most aid stations was mixed way to sweet. And the post race food was lame. And the hills, it was a love/hate relationship. Summary: Nice course, but not a course to PR on. I would recommend it if you are up for a challenge.
4.0

By: Ryan W.

Posted: July 11, 2005

TOO HILLY. NOT A FAIR COURSE.

Bellevue and Seafair did a great job of organizing the race and course. 19 water and aid stations were fantastic. The crowd support was good but limited due to areas of the city where they couldn't park and cheer. Those who did show up to cheer were great. This was all over shadowed by the fact that the course was too hilly. There were only 4-5 miles of flat course. One area of up hill and down hill was ridiculous around mile 7. The course elevation chart doesn't show this. The 1.6 mile path after mile 15 did me in. The path was virtually all up hill. Myself and other runners were complaining, which took away from enjoying the experience. I won't run this course again and recommend people stay away unless Seafair makes major changes.
3.0

By: Karl F.

Posted: July 11, 2005

Beautiful, challenging & organized urban run

A beautiful, urban race that had support people about every 1/4 mile complete with vest and radio. The rolling hills are a challenge,but the cool summer weather and lack of blighted areas were a refreshing change from other city marathons.The finish area was also well organized with food and water. My only wish was for cookies and yogurt. Very impressive organization!!
4.0

By: Cynthia K.

Posted: July 11, 2005

Great potential, but needs a few changes

The race was well organized, with excellent traffic control and good crowd and aid station support. Cool temperature for most of the morning and lovely wooded neighborhoods along the way. Aid stations were well manned, though I prefer a sweet drink to the Amino Vitale they had (plenty of water, thank goodness). Loved the Red Bull at mile 16. On the negative side, the loop course starts and finishes uphill. I'm sure they've got some little reason for this, but from the runner's point of view it is annoying, stressful, and just plain dumb. Why not reverse the loop? The course is extremely hilly either way, but at least we'd get a gentler warmup and a faster, ego-boosting finish. My only other disappointment was that the aid stations did not have a few important items. I would like to see more salty snacks in the last 10 miles (a friend said there were some crackers, but you'd have to stop and go search the table to get them). Also, I needed some vaseline and was counting on the usual 'tray' being held out around mile 20. When I got there, I had to 'ask around' for it, and finally their medical guy said he had some, and began fishing through a fanny pack, at which point I just had to get going and do without. Sponges at mile 20 would have been nice too. I'm not sure I'd do this marathon again unless they get rid of the ridiculous uphill start and finish, but I did enjoy most of the very hilly course. (Except the mile or so running along the side of the freeway.) It's a very pretty, suburban area and a well organized race.
3.0

By: Robbie A.

Posted: July 11, 2005

Nice race – great organization – HARD COURSE!

For a first time event these folks did a really great job. The marathon was added to a long standing ½ and 5k. The organization was very well done. They started the full marathon 30 mins before the ½ which was nice. Also the course didn’t circle back to the ½ course until mile 20 so there was a nice separation. However the course was killer! Hills! Hills and more hills. This is no a PR course. But for an excellent race in July it was outstanding. Pros- - Marathon starting 30 minutes before the 1/2 (why don’t more races do this, it was great!) - Good post race fest. Road Runner sports hooked me before the race for a forgotten item. Thanks – I am now customer for life! - Very organized - excellent course marshals – Red bull on the course NICE! - Easy in easy out. - Outstanding weather! Cons – - Only one - the course- it was tough. Lots of up and down. Long climbs short climbs etc….it was a hard course. Overall an excellent race, more so when you consider it is July.
3.0
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