By: Jessica Sotomayor
Posted: March 26, 2015
Hills as promised, fog as a surprise, all halfers
This race is well organized. I participated because of the Nike and Tiffany & Co. brand names.
The hills were plentiful but congregated towards the beginning when energy is high, spectator support is there, and you're running in a crowd. A few are left over for marathoners but to be expected, IT'S SAN FRAN!
My biggest problem with this race was the fact that almost everyone is running the half, so consequently support is drastically lacking mile 9 and onward. The spectators, water stations, and other runners are hard to find after the split in the course.
My second biggest problem was the weather. I'm not sure if the timing of the race could be planned better- time of day vs time of year, but the 'views' were N/A for my entire race because of the intense and heavy fog. Literally every picture from this race is me against fog, me against more fog, and me with the flash bouncing back because of the fog! I saw no bridge, no Alcatraz, and one particularly grueling up and back portion of the course was TORTURE because it was in the last 10 miles and there was nothing but fog, but I could hear the ocean, so I'm sure at another time of day/year the scenery would have been awesome!
This was my first marathon, I would not recommend someone run this race as their first. Run a race like the Marine Corps (my second race) that has spectators every mile, and you're never alone on the course.
I would return to run this race after running a few more races with more marathon participants. I noticed when I ran the San Juan Marathon (2015) that I really don't like these races with majority half marathon runners. I was 23, I ran a 4:38. My PR is 4:24 from San Juan, PR in 2015.
By: Krys W.
Posted: October 31, 2014
Ok race, great swag!
I had a good time because I was with friends and who doesn't appreciate a Tiffany's necklace? But there are definite improvements that could be made. I ran the full which is no more.
Hate that everything is on Facebook. It's very hard to find basic info.
Expo was fun and girlie but not a typical expo where you can buy race necessities.
Course was tough- it is San Francisco but there were stretches where it was super lonely. I understand that a lot of people do this race for charity but there are so many walkers who walk 4, 5 or 6 across and start in the faster corrals, jamming things up. I have never run a race with so many walkers who had no understanding of moving over.
The volunteers were awesome and encouraging. Finish was pretty smooth and baggage pickup was easy. Took a very long time to get on a bus back to Union Square and the ride took over an hour.
By: Angela T.
Posted: November 03, 2013
Best for half marathon
I ran the half marathon after advise from someone who has done both. I had a blast and hope to get in again next year. I love the Tiffany necklace. The bag check was the MOST organized bag check I've ever dealt with. I thought Nike did the best they could given the huge crowd. It was as organized as can be. I don't like how everything is on Facebook though and the course profile was inaccurate. It really didn't depict the hills accurately.
By: Megan G.
Posted: October 26, 2013
Beautiful challenging course
Like previous years there were only about 4,000 full marathon runners. This made for a pretty lonely second half. Every aid station I encountered had all of the refreshments listed on the course guide, This year the finisher t-shirt did distinguish marathon vs half and there were no sponsors on the shirt. Early packet pick up was a breeze. Overall it was a good fun experience. Nike does need to improve on the availability and timing of information about the race though. The map for the race course was not released until only a few weeks before the race. Based on previous years comments I think they have improved.
By: Amy G.
Posted: October 21, 2013
Pretty happy over all with the race
I super enjoyed the course for the first part of the marathon...The second part was a bit boring. Is there any way to jazz it up a bit...
I think for as much as we pay for this race that a shuttle should come with the price...I hated waiting in a huge line for a bus that I had to sit on for almost an hour...
Also I wish more runners would quit being so serious and encourage each other along the way. I probably cheered on with words of encouragement 50 runners and not one of them even said thank you...I also heard soooooo many TNT coaches and runners just cheering their own on....Come on People....
By: Alison S.
Posted: October 21, 2013
Poor organization
This race gets worse every year, more people enter and the course runs out of sports drink, shot blox, heat sheets and does not have enough porta potties. Information before, during and after the race is very hard to find. Start and finish corrals are a joke, no racer controls, signage at the finish is insufficient. Not a race for an average half-marathoner. Terrible crowded, tiny expo. If you love standing in poorly organized and overly crowded areas, this is your race.
By: Cindy F.
Posted: October 20, 2013
Great views of SF
I really loved the course. Running through Embarcadero, Golden Gate Park, and Lake Merced. However, being that we signed up with Nike, I would have thought the shirts would be a little prettier and the ten year anniversary Tiffany's necklace would have had a better design. All in all, the course is great but the goodies were a bust.
By: Tanisha W.
Posted: June 18, 2013
Great course, no reason to do the full again
I completely agree with what was said about the full-marathon support. Lack of food at the end and shirts that specified full-marathon. There were plenty of items for the half-marathoners but not nearly as much for the full-marathoners. All in all it was a beautiful and challenging course, but I will be running the half this year due to the previously mentioned issues.
By: Glynis M.
Posted: June 10, 2013
Half-marathon finisher
My shirt said 'Half-Marathon Finisher', so I have no idea what the Full Marathon finisher's issue was. It was a great race for all finishers - half and full.
By: Elisia O.
Posted: May 20, 2013
No differentiation between the half and full.
The course was beautiful once the fog from the Bay burned off; however, I wouldn't run this as a full marathon again. There were 21,000 half marathon participants, and only 4,000 full marathon runners. This would have been fine by me, if as a full marathon finisher, I would have received a different shirt from those that finished the half. Both distances are a great accomplishment, but I have never run a half marathon and received a shirt that said I ran a full marathon, and vice versa.
Also, when I finished the full marathon, there wasn't much in the way of refreshments at the finish for us (bananas and stale bagels, that's it!); I'm guessing because the half marathon participants went through most of the food before we crossed the finish line in 4hr45min.
The expo was disappointing; after a 45 min wait to get in, there was very little to see. Also disappointing was the lack of marathon gear available for immediate purchase...almost all items were labeled 'Half marathon'. It doesn't make sense that their finisher shirts all said 'Nike Women's Marathon', yet nearly all the swag for purchase only said 'half marathon'.
What you get is not worth the high price of this marathon, not even if you're in it for the Nike name.
By: Karen Z.
Posted: November 01, 2012
The race itself was very enjoyable.
The expo was so disorganized that all I wanted to do was grab my race packet and get out of there as soon as possible. Way too small of an area for the number of people. Too crowded. Was not able to see all of the vendors. Other than the Expo, the race and course was really enjoyable. Would definitely do it again.
By: Renee H.
Posted: October 21, 2012
Great First Marathon
Ran this as my first marathon in 2012. Very well organized. Runners released in pace groups. Course was challenging, but beautiful. All around great experience. The necklace was beautiful this year. Nike did a great job.
By: Brian B.
Posted: October 18, 2012
Beautiful but tough coursr
A great challenging course but not if you are only interested in a BQ.
Start is much better than last year - good job Nike.
Finish is still a problem as there is not enough food and the lineup for the bus is huge.
What happened to the chocolates at mile 22? Instead we had a stupid balloon to run under.
Will be back next year :)
By: Kacey F.
Posted: October 18, 2012
Breathtaking Course
I've never been one to run a race for the medal or t shirt. I don't need lots of spectators and don't particularly like large races with big fields. But I do like destination races and spectacular views (extra points for water), so I signed up for the Nike Women's Marathon in San Francisco.
On the finisher's 'medal' and t shirt: the Tiffany and Co. necklace completely exceeded my expectations. It's a beautiful pendant on a silver chain. I LOVE the necklaceit was so fun seeing other women wearing it when I was out to dinner, around the hotel, and at the airport the next day. The other really nice thing about the necklace is that I can wear it all the time, I don't get that same silly feeling of wearing a medal after other races I've ran (I even felt a little silly wearing my Boston finisher's medal). And the tshirt: reads Nike Women's Marathon FINISHER in great big letters, can't wait to wear it while training for my next marathons.
On spectators: few and far between. This was a-okay by me, though it was a little surprising, considering that 25,000 runners participate in the half and full. Most of the spectators were TNT 'coaches'who were only interested in cheering for you if a were wearing a TNT shirt.
On a large race with a big field: the expo was incredibly unorganized, they were completely unable to handle a crowd of 25,000+ runners and their plus ones (or twos). The starting corals are supposed to be organized by runner's self predicted pace, but this did not happen. There were women in the sub 7:30 min pace area that were walking...
On the course: duh, there are hills, but the absolutely BEAUTIFUL views and water make it 100% worth it!
By: Tara Q.
Posted: October 17, 2012
Many Pros and Cons
I both agree and disagree with many of the comments posted. I haven't decided whether or not I will run this race again. However, if I do not, it is mostly because it is over-priced. There is definitely a ton of Nike marketing going on but I believe that to be expected when a company sponsors a race. While I am a serious runner, I am also girly and do not believe two to be mutually exclusive. With that said, I also found the bra exchange in the middle of the race a bit ridiculous but not insulting.
I didn't think that any of the hills were 'killer' or 'challenging' by themselves. From my perspective, the hills were only problematic because many of the participants did not engage in proper race etiquette. The majority of the racers started walking before even attempting the hill ascents and didn't make any attempt to clear the way for those of us that wanted to continue running. Additionally, many participants simply came to a complete stop with no regard to the runners behind you. This I cannot blame on the race organizers but I do think that some signage asking walkers to move to one side or the other might be helpful. Additional corrals further breaking down the runners are definitely necessary and I agree with separating out the walkers. As others have mentioned, I had the frustrating experience of navigating walkers from the beginning of the race until at least 10 miles into the race. Anyone walking in the first mile, should not be staged in front of runners. This not only an issue of increasing your time, the more serious issue is safely as it increases the possibility of injury for all participants - runners and walkers. Additionally, It might be helpful to have corrals for those who are just doing the race for fun. I do not object or have anything against these participants but intermingling of these participants with those who are more serious about the race can be frustrating and upsetting to all.
Organization upon finishing the race and with the expensive shuttle service is imperative. The last thing that your legs need after running 26 miles is to come to a sudden halt and then get herded for a half an hour - only to then spend an hour standing in line for an over-priced shuttle. For the price of the race, shuttle service should have been included in the entry fee and more convenient. Anyone who has ever run 13 or 26 miles should be on the organizing committee as they could explain how torturous this can be on a runners legs. For me, It was the difference between normally not being sore after a race to still having muscle tightness two days later. I appreciated having bananas at the end of the race but is also a good idea to have either chocolate milk or a muscle milk type product post race - especially considering that it would be hours before any of us made it out of the post-race expo. Some participant comments mentioned milk but I didn't see any when I finished.
Race website and information distribution were a huge issue for myself as well. I didn't appreciate having to go look for the information necessary for participation in the event. I am accustomed to receiving e-mails from the organizer's with all of the pertinent information and believe that this is the best practice. The challenge of the hunt for information was unnecessary and undesirable. Both e-mails to participants and an organized and informative website are in dire need for future races.
I enjoyed the course immensely. However, I must admit that I have a bias as I grew up in the San Francisco area and the course was very nostalgic and a homecoming for me.
I do not believe that the race size is too big. I believe that it is possible to have a wonderful experience with a race this size for both serious, fun runners and those in-between. However, with greater numbers, a correlating level of structure organization is a must.
The Tiffany necklace wasn't a motivator for me. In fact, I have made it all the way back home to Colorado and have not even opened the box as of yet. I didn't even notice that they were being handed out by firefighters but I may be in the minority in both noticing this or caring about it.
I disagree that the TNT runners & walkers as a whole were better 'trained' than others on the course. I ran into just as many frustrating experiences with TNT runners/walkers and non-TNT participants.
I don't quite understand the complaints of lack of beer at the end of the race and also have never understood the desire for beer after running 13 or 26 miles or at 10 o'clock in the morning - but to each is own and whatever floats your boat. With that said, at the time that I finished, there was a microbrew handing out cups of beer right before the finish.
All in all, I think that this race has a ton of potential with some very simple improvements but am still undecided on future partcipation.
By: Sandy A.
Posted: October 16, 2012
Boston qualifier
You need to update the Boston qualifying times for the new age group times! a 3:40 is no longer the qualifying time for women under 35 it is now a 3:35 so you have marked BQ after people's names who didn't qualify
By: Megan K.
Posted: October 16, 2012
Overly commercial and offensive
I have run the race six times, and after 2011, I won't do it again. When I first started running it, I felt a sense of empowerment as a female athlete as I toed the line, and that Nike took me seriously. Last year, I felt as though Nike viewed me as sparkly pink wallet. Nike+ members get preferential treatment above and beyond the exorbitant cost of the marathon. The Expo isn't like any expo I've ever been to. There is almost nothing there related to athletics or running (I mean, facial products and expensive casual shoes?
No gels or anything helpful for the race?). The signs along the course are insulting ('Skinny jeans ahead!' or 'Hurry up so you can shop!' Yeah, that's motivating for someone trying to set a PR for the course.). There was a 'bra exchange' at mile 7 or something. I mean, come ON. Nike makes a women's marathon in 2004, starts it out as a legitimate, good, REAL marathon, and then slowly morphs it into a disgusting show of heteronormality, all girly girl-ness, where running is about staying skinny and being able to eat chocolate and drink cocktails with your 'besties.' I run to compete and to be fast. I don't buy cute running clothes. I don't wear pink and I don't sparkle.
I don't even like to shop. So this marathon slowly began to rub me the wrong way over the years. Combine that with ridiculous crowds of women who get upset if you ARE serious about trying to run fast (Hey, we're just having fun here!), and it made for a very bad experience last year. Re: spectators, there are lots, but be prepared for lots of guys to yell at you. I once had some young guys shouting their numbers to a girl near me, like the race equivalent of the construction workers. I chuckled, and they said, 'Hey, we like older women too!'
I was 24 at the time. That said, it's a gorgeous course, and in 2006, I did qualify for Boston by running with a pace group. I don't know if they have those anymore though. You'd have to get to the start 90 minutes early to beat the rush and be able to get out, now.
By: Hope R.
Posted: October 15, 2012
brutal,beautiful course, finish area, unorganized
1st and last time for this one. Yes, I enjoyed it, but it took us over an hour to get back to our hotel, transportation was a nightmare. And my end time was 45 minutes off from my actual results.
By: Alicia H.
Posted: October 15, 2012
Nike really?
I ran the half but can't find a web site to blog on, so here I am.
Good: Beautiful course, Loved the Tiffany necklace with fire fighters :), warming blankets and warming tent were great, food and water was plentiful, San Fran was wonderful, will probably do it again but with lower expectations of the race organization
Bad: start (really, really bad), very crowded, needs wave starts, no signs for bag drop off, we were told at the Nike expo we would get a purple long sleeve shirt - wrong info, socks on expo display were not at Nike store as told, nor at Macy's as told, finally found at Lady foot locker, expo was very loud, would rather have my packet sent to me or picked up somewhere else, I don't FB, so no info on race could be found
By: Beth B.
Posted: October 15, 2012
Wonderfully marketed, not so well executed
I ran this marathon, despite the mixed reviews from previous years, solely for the Tiffany necklace. I went in with low expectations and I think that's the way to approach this race. If you're a first time marathoner/half marathoner or just want to run this with a group of friends, you'll think this race is great. More experienced runners will probably want to pass this one over (unless they also just want the Tiffany necklace). The race is just one giant marketing tool for Nike and it's geared towards selling Nike products and increasing Nike's social media presence as much as possible.
The good:
- The necklace. It won't be the cutest piece of jewelry you own, but you earned it and can wear it with pride.
- The course. I actually really enjoyed the course and somehow managed to run both a personal best and Boston qualifying time. If you include hill work in your training, the hills will be a welcome mix for your leg muscles. I did find the couple of miles around Lake Merced (esp the part where we were running next to cars) not very pleasant, and the hill up mile 12 right when you split from the half marathoners is long, lonely, and probably the hardest part of the course.
- the energy on the course. While spectators were pretty sparse after the marathoners split off from the half marathoners, there was some great support along the course, with a gospel choir, cheerleaders, break dancers, and my favorite, the drum band around mile 22 or so.
The bad:
- the expo. Not only was it pretty lame and useless (no energy gels for sale, no cool products to check out, just Nike swag available for purchase and a few free samples of Luna bars), but the line to pick up race packets was wrapped around the block. Nike, either limit the number of people in this race or get a bigger venue for your expo. I've NEVER had to wait so long to pick up my packet.
- rude staff. I went to an info booth at the expo to pick up an extra course map for my husband and the staff member working there refused to let me have a map and snapped at me that there was a map in my race bag. Another staff member at the end of the race was yelling at finishers about the spectator buses. He was rude enough that a number of women were commenting on it as we stood in the extremely long bus line.
- kind of nitpicky, but the water cups on the course had maybe 1-2 sips of water in them. I had to take at least 2 cups at each station to get enough fluid in me, particularly if I was taking a gel then. Just fill up the cups a bit more, please.
The downright ugly:
- the shuttle buses to take participants back to the race course. Nobody was directing people on where to stand in line for the shuttle buses, so it was chaos. It took me an hour and 45 minutes from when I got in line to get back to Union Square.
- the race website. Probably the least informative race website I've ever seen, and I hate that it's a Facebook page. I don't want to have to check your darn Facebook page every day just to make sure I don't miss a post with some information.
By: Carrie Blumert
Posted: July 18, 2012
Fun!
This was my second half marathon and it was super fun! I do have a few complaints though. The start NEEDS corrals. There are way too many people at the beginning and it is mass chaos (more so than any other big race I have done). There also needs to be a separate start time for walkers. I was passing walkers for at least 6-7 miles and it made for a jumbled path. The spectators were great though and kept me going! Oh...and train well for those hills, they kill ;)
By: Runner C.
Posted: July 08, 2012
Great Nike-focused...um Women's-focused marathon
Course-
Having been to San Francisco many times before, the hills in the Presidio/Richmond/GG Park were not surprising. The second half with the loop around Lake Merced is not fun. But then I doubt the miles in the 20s ever are.
**There is a terrible bottleneck at about mile 5 as everyone goes up a very narrow hill in Ft. Mason. Either get way out front or plan on walking this ~150m hill. Organizers should look at changing the course for the size of the race.
Organization-
If you want to go to a race to buy your Nike gear instead of shopping online or going to Niketown, you're in luck!
Starting area around Union Square is a mess. Bag check and corrals for starting are a real mess. Nike needs to get with it and do this right. It may be hard to close streets around Union Square, but this just needs to get better. Organizers, if you can't get the space to do it right, move the race start!
Race benefits the Leukemia and Lymphoma Society (TNT). Though it seemed like they were everywhere, only about 1/5 of the runners were from TNT (5k out of 25k total). I had a TNT coach check on me as I was struggling around Lake Merced though I was not with TNT...really appreciated that!
All sarcasm aside, Nike gets it right with the Tiffany finishers necklace from SF firefighters. It would be nice to see more food/beer for sale at finish since there aren't many great food places in walking distance.
Spectators-
Better than San Francisco Marathon in July which I've also run.
By: Bob B.
Posted: May 25, 2012
Best scenary
I am a Team In Training Coach and have been to Nike one time. The reason you are passing a lot of walkere is because some of them started a hour earlier. Most coaches told them to watch for the runners and stay to the outside of the road. But we can only tell them that. The TNT Coaches are out there to help there runners or walkers. For many this is there first event but they are well trained unlike other first timers that do not train or hydrate like they should.
By: Lisa G.
Posted: March 10, 2012
Beautiful Course...very disorganized
First of all, the vistas in this race are beautiful. The expo was somewhat disappointing, no typical expo stuff available(ie gels/spibelts/etc). Only NIKE products. I finished this race at 4:09 and the only thing left at the finish was a bottle of water and a bagel. They were out of everything else. Very frustrating. If you are going to run this become a NIKE plus member and track your training runs. There is an awesome, posh, area at the end with food, cocktails, heaters and posh seating. The one thing I have to say is the energy at this race is amazing...Niketown was like a giant party before the race. One last comment, be prepared for many inexperienced TNT runners/walkers that do not know race etiquette. (ie stopping in the middle of the first mile, walking in the middle of the pack, stopping to take pictures). Am I glad I did it yes...will I run it again. No.
By: Lisa S.
Posted: January 03, 2012
Set your expectations accordingly
I didn't read the reviews for this race until after I had registered, otherwise I probably would not have signed up. At least I had plenty of time to lower my expectations.
Bad: Poor organization overall from the corrals to the bag check to the finish. I don't know if the corrals were not clear to the majority of the runners but the 9 minute mile corral was mostly walkers?!? I didn't like having to keep up with which bus I left my drop bag on, the changing tent was tiny and a mess, no food or beer at the finish - but they did have a HUGE Nike tent to shop in. Probably 80-85% of the runners in this marathon are first time TNT runners. The TNT coaches were out in the middle of the race course making all of the runners run around them - not really a big deal but not very respectful to the other runners. At least cheer for me if I have to run around you.
Good: The course was beautiful with breathtaking views. The Neutrogena facial station was great, as was the the chocolate milk. Also, I liked being able to walk in the cold ocean to help with swelling/recovery. I was able to follow up the race with a tour of wine country which was a nice treat. As for the necklace, it's eye catching - I get alot of questions about it.
Considering I had to get on a wait list to get into this race, I seriously doubt the organizers are motivated to make any improvements. If you can deal with the lack of organization, do the race. If it's going to ruin your day, try Chicago (a week earlier) or Memphis the same size).
By: Tami M.
Posted: December 16, 2011
I LOVED this race!
I rarely say that about many races. This was my 57th marathon, and yes, I ran it mainly to get the Tiffany necklace. I entered the lottery as a lark, not really thinking I'd get in, as I had tried two times previously unsuccessfully. Also, this was about 3 weeks after I completed my first half Ironman, so timing-wise, it probably wasn't ideal.
The Expo was really odd. I expected one more to the likes of other large marathon expos I'd attended, but when I gave it some thought, I guess it WAS sponsored by Nike. LOL.
However, I loved the race. The first half of the course was challenging, but gorgeous. The energy was amazing. I loved the drummers, especially and the view of the Golden Gate was spectacular.
It would be nice for it to be a loop instead of a point-to-point course. $20 for a bus ticket back felt a little like extortion, since there were few choices. I did have to move my flight since I realized there was no way I would get back to my hotel in time to make it to the airport.
But, that aside, I loved the experience.
By: C. S.
Posted: December 01, 2011
A Big Fat Hypocritical 'Don't Do It!'
I feel the need to comment because, as many other runners stated, this was one of the most poorly organized races I have ever run. That being said, I ran the race simply for the Tiffany's necklace, after having read all of the negative comments from years past. I could lie and say I hoped Nike would make improvements, but, frankly, I'm not a big supporter of Nike in general and should have stuck to my guns. And, I hate to be the one to say it, but the necklace is not even that great. It is small, boring, lacking in detail and says NWM in giant letters. Sure, lure me to the race for the necklace, put your company's logo all over it, then fail to deliver any quality whatsoever.
The worst of the bad: small, lame expo - no gels, even for purchase??; crowds at the start were downright dangerous - we almost got trampled and had to actually step out of the way to let another runner's family members OUT of the corral area!!!; runner etiquette - Portland is a walker friendly race with a good number of participants and runs very smoothly, educate people!
So as not to appear completely bitter and mean: the parts of the course through Golden Gate Park are gorgeous! The clean-up stations and massages at the finish were great. The single most appreciated and enjoyed feature of the entire experience - the chocolate milk at the finish: Thank You Safeway!
By: Tracie W.
Posted: November 13, 2011
Nice course, needs better organization
Nice race course. However, the pre & post race needs a lot of improvement for such a seasoned race. Expo is in Union Square which is cool because it's next to Niketown and other great shopping. However, the square is way too small for a race with 22,000+ runners. Expect to wait in line to pick up your race packet, especially if you go late Saturday (line went half way around the block). I waited in a short line on Friday. Expo has some great stuff but space is so limited & very crowded - too difficult to move around. Sampling is fantastic (Meyers, Safeway Smoothies, Gatorade, Ghiradelli, Pom). Race start is equally painful as it also begins in Union Square.
In spite of attempt to layout the pace & bag drop areas, you had to push your way through packed crowds lining up to start based on their pace areas and bathroom lines to get to bag drop off since the other bag drop off was not accepting bags for some reason. Again square is small (plus there was road construction blocking some areas) and when you mix people lining up to start the race, bathroom lines and trying to get to another bag check point due to poor communication, at some point, I wondered if a riot might start with the pushing. It was only by sheer luck, I was able to cut through the Westin from the bag check to get even close to my pace area. Others I know never did and could not get up to pace for several miles. So if you start further back, expect some traffic before you can get up to pace.
Music stations on the course was nice with the power songs. Water & food support on course was good. Sunscreen sprayers was great touch even though it was overcast. Great idea. I finished the marathon in 3:52 and by then, all they had left was bagels and water. No protein drink (saw several volunteers hoarding a few bottles behind the bagel boxes), no more bananas, no more fruit cups. Only water & bagels for sub 4 hour finishers. How can you run out of food that quickly with so many people still running? Buying food from a food truck is not what I want to eat after running 26 miles. Neutrogena clean up area was great.
Would not recommend this race simply because of the pre and post race pains. Medal was nice but it didn't even have the race date on it.
By: John B.
Posted: October 27, 2011
A must due race!
Completed the 26.2 with Team in Training and would due it all over again tomorrow! Very well organized from start to finish.
By: Charly G.
Posted: October 25, 2011
Nike-Great Company-Poor Race Organizers
Great course and views. The hills were challenging, but doable. On the downside, I agree with many of the comments about the lack of organization. Too bad that Nike doesn't take a hint from other venues. This wasn't the first time this raace has been run and nothing changes. The area where the gear check was - absolute chaos. There were people trying to get to the start area in the same area as people trying to check their gear. This could have been an absolute disaster since there was no room for anyone to move in either direction. Apparently this happens every year and Nike doesn't seem to care enough to do anything about it. Hopefully it won't take a disaster for Nike to wake up and change this situation. This was a TNT event, no doubt. I spent much of the first half moving around the walkers. TNT should have done a better job of educating their participants. Having walkers in the 10 minute start area is not acceptable. Walkers should be told that they need to be in the back of the pack. Very frustrating for runners to have to dodge these people!! On a positive note, the tiffany necklace is beautiful and I do love it. I'd do this race again only if Nike addresses these weaknesses, otherwise I'll find another fun destination!
By: Rosemary S.
Posted: October 24, 2011
Pretty course, good women's run, poorly organized
Agree with commentors below:
1. Web site is worst I've ever seen ( 3 marathons, dozen + halfs). Very little info, no spectator guide.
2. Expo fine, small, but they had 4 Olympic women runners; my favorite part for sure!
3. Awful start, had to dodge walkers and slower runners for first 9 miles! This is not rocket science, both passers and passees were annoyed.
4. Ran out of food at finish!! It is unacceptable to let half marathoners eat all the food. They were giving out coupons for a case of free water; as if that was of any use whatsoever!!
Glad I ran, I set a PR and I love San Fran, but definitely don't recommend it and would never do it again.
By: Christine F.
Posted: October 22, 2011
This is an event, not a race
This was my fourth full marathon. Even after reading all of the previous HORRIBLE reviews of this race, I still decided to run it because:
(1) I liked the gimmick of the Tiffany's necklace finisher's medal
(2) I had never been to California
(3) I figured rarely does anyone take the time to write a good review, so of course all the reviews are going to be bad
Well, I wrote a glowing review for the hotel that I stayed in (Petite Auberge) so I feel justified in writing a scathing review of this event. Because that's what it is; an event, not a race.
Good:
Immediate email upon acceptance in the lottery
Immediate charge to my credit card for the race fee, proving I did secure an entry
Searchable database for my name, to verify that I truly am registered
Live person actually answered the phone at Nike and had an intelligent answer to my logistics questions one week before the race
I could walk to the start from my hotel
Volunteers & entertainment were fantastic and supportive
Aid stations were about every 2 miles and had plenty of water
Bad:
NO personal communication after the initial email&.until about 2 weeks before the event, receiving a print this as proof of entry email telling you about bib pickup. That's crazy. No email. No snail mail. Nothing.
The only form of communication was Facebook. The Nike website was terrible. I did not care for the format of posing questions on the NWM facebook wall, for 24,500 total strangers to see. I didn't need 24,500 people knowing I was going to be across the country from my home on race day. This is why I resorted to calling Nike on the phone looking for answers.
Packet pickup had me confirm that I purchased a shuttle ticket when I registered, yet she forgot to give me a sticker for my bib, which would give me entry onto the shuttle bus. So I had to take public transportation. She also didn't explain that I was supposed to wear the Nike+ band for race day perks, which is moot since apparently other runners wore their bands and didn't get anything.
Expo was horrible. I agree with previous reviewers: it was dark, loud, no flow, and a complete lack of vendors. One tiny stall outside selling Bodyglide for $9 doesn't count.
Bib was round, which means race-belts don't work. I had to pin my number to my belt.
Bag drop off had no clear signage race morning, and was a distance from the start.
Start was ridiculously crowded. There is no reason why my husband should have been able to stand in the street with me. No spectators should have been anywhere in the corral areas.
Racers were pushing through all the people to try to work their way into the desired corral; this was occurring even after the start gun.
The corrals were honor-system, which didn't work for this event. I was still weaving through walkers up through mile 11, when the half-marathoners finally split off. How is that even possible to have so many walkers so far in front? I was off by a full minute every mile off of my race pace from the very start, because of so many walkers. I get it now; this is a charity event. I've run marathons for charity before, but that doesn't mean I'm second class because I don't happen to be running for the chosen Nike charity today. I think I agree with the reviewer who said they should just make this a TNT only event. It would solve a lot of the issues that the serious runners are experiencing. Don't underestimate the congestion; there were people 6 inches from me on all sides right up until the split. I suppose the bright side is I had a negative split.
Nike must have cheaped out on the Brightroom photo contract. Brightroom has photographed all my other marathons, and took excellent close up candid photos. The Brightroom photos from this event that are supposed to be photos of me, showed a jumbled crowd of people! If it weren't for my neon green shirt, I would have trouble picking myself out of the crowd. No kidding.
I was given the wrong finisher's shirt. I was given a half-marathon shirt, instead of the full. I finished in the full marathon chute, received my medal, and walked straight to the Full finisher's table. It never occurred to me to check that I received the correct shirt. Apparently, this happened to many, many full finishers.
I received a partially frozen bagel and one bottle of water at the finish. That's it.
I'm not going to suggest to Nike how to solve these problems for 2 reasons:
(1) Many other people have offered viable solutions in their critiques of this event, and Nike chooses to ignore them, year after year.
(2) Nike has enough money to hire race experts to fix their problems. I don't need to give them my advice for free.
I suggest that you run this event to say you've run the hills of San Francisco (which honestly, weren't all that bad), and to say that you received a Tiffany's necklace from a tuxedoed firefighter. If that is your expectation, you won't be disappointed.
By: Amy R.
Posted: October 21, 2011
I expected more from Nike
This was a very disappointing race. I love the Tiffany necklace, and that's why I ran it, but Nike could do SO much better if they'd take time to learn from the Rock n Roll, Chicago or New York people. The mistakes they made (jumbled start, crowded water stops, no-flow expo, poor website, not enough food, not enough shirts, etc.) would be easy to fix if they would be humble enough to admit the problems. They did a great job with marketing and merchandise, which are always Nike strengths. Props to Neutrogena and Safeway for making good use of their sponsorships! The course was hilly, as expected, but do-able. I did find the first half incredibly frustrating as I had to pick my way through walkers and slower runners (and I'm not fast at all). Better organization will do wonders. I won't run it again, though.
By: megan b.
Posted: October 20, 2011
I will not be back
My issues-
1. There was no organization whatsoever at the start. Say, what you like about letting people line themselves up according to pace it never really works out well does it. It was obvious the NWM outgrew the Union Square start. People were packed in like sardines. My daughter was elbowed in the corral. Spectators do not belong in the corral either!
2. Not enough potra potties at the start and on the course come on with 22,000 participants you should have more waiting 10+ minutes to pee during a race is too long.
3.Too many walkers arm in arm blocking the course. They need to start at the back. I could only hope that the walkers would let us pass. That never happened. I tried asking, shouting runner on your left, clearing my throat, and even just being rude and brushing past them. With the course, being congested about 80% of the time and not being able to get past the walkers my daughter and I had no choice but to walk, it was beyond frustrating.
4.The expo my daughters name did not end up on the wall or the poster because of a misprint issue. It was crowded and other than taking free samples of Gatorade products anything else worth doing had too long of a wait.
5. The shirts mine is already falling apart I expect better quality from Nike.
6.Many women there openly admit only entering for the necklace and have no clue about race etiquette, hence the miserable experience.
By: Theresa P.
Posted: October 20, 2011
Agree with JC-wouldn't do again
1. Race start was appalling and no staff seemed to know how it was organized. NEED corrals by time (learn from RNR marathons)
2. Need signs and map for organization at start/finish for where to check-in bags, line up, pickup bags, etc.
3. Not much support for marathoners - mostly for 1/2 M's (little crowd support after 1/2 M finish)
4. Liked the cheer stations, pretty course.
5. Expo needs more vendors with more running gear (such as pouches, watches, etc.), NIKE shouldn't be only clothing vendor either!
By: Lisa B.
Posted: October 19, 2011
Run for fun not for records
I have never reviewed a race but thought I would regarding Nike as I read so many of these reviews before I went to San Francisco. This race is exactly what you would expect from a Nike sponsored event. Huge, bling, lots of perks. If you are running for a quiet morning or a PR then you should probably reconsider running this race. I left my watch at home and enjoyed the last 13 miles but I will say that the first half was really exhausting. I had to slow and walk around people and basically kiss any kind of PR goodbye. I am very thankful I ran the full as I was able to see the Great Hwy and run along the ocean. Definitely go into this race to have fun and do your research; Don't let the first half upset you - it's VERY crowded.
By: Jana c.
Posted: October 18, 2011
Been there, done that, won't do it again
This was marathon #13 for me, so I have experience in how marathons should be organized. This marathon, was by far, the most disorganized race. I would not recommend this marathon and will not be running it again. Here is my list of reasons why it ranks so low:
*Please note, these are the same complaints runners have each year and Nike has done very little to improve upon them.
Recommendation to Nike: Get rid of the full marathon, you really put no effort into it anyway. Turn this race into a 100% TNT race. Don't let non-TNT persons in as very little is done to accommodate them. And for goodness sake, HAVE ENFORCED START CORRAL TIMES!!!
1. Expensive race
2. Race website hard to navigate. Lacked important information.
3. Expo was small, no vendors, dark, noisy.
4. No safety pins given with the bib
5. Big bulky chip on the back of the bib
6. Start line was pure chaos (most poorly managed start line I have experienced). I cannot believe Nike has done nothing about this. It is the #1 complaint from runners.
7. The online tracking failed miserably
8. The water/Gatorade cups at the aid stations contained only a few tablespoons of water in each cup (at least for me). I had to grab 2-3 cups just to get a mouthful.
9. Spectators were non existent in miles 18-22
10. TNT spectators only cheered for TNT runners (were is the running etiquette?)
11. They ran out of food! How does that even happen? I finished the full marathon in 4 hours and they had run out of food.
12. The bottled water they handed out was lukewarm. ALWAYS keep the finish line beverages cold please.
13. From most reports I have read or heard, the volunteer staff was well undereducated on the FAQs for this race
14. They do not have official times up within 24hrs post-race (most races have that within 24 hours)
15. The finish area was chaos. They did nothing to keep spectators out. No places to really sit.
For anyone wanting to do this race, PLEASE, walk on the right, do not line up in the front if you are a walker or slower runner. No excuse for that.
With how much this race cost, this race was almost embarrassing from an organization stand point.
By: Alice T.
Posted: October 18, 2011
Wonderful race/race weekend from beginning to end.
Great cause, city, course, volunteers, necklace, etc. etc. This is my eighth Nike Women's Marathon - I'm a legacy participant and have raised over $200,000 for The Leukemia & Lymphoma Society through this Nike event. One concern - my name can not be found when I search the results! Something must have gone wrong with the timing device. My time isn't important; that I'm on record as completing the 26.2 miles is!
By: J. Susan Cole S.
Posted: October 18, 2011
Mass confusion at the start
Disorganized start, signs in the wrong area. I am not listed at all in the results.
By: linda P.
Posted: October 17, 2011
Horrible man in charge of bib pickup
I arrived at the bib pickup table at 6:35 on Saturday after being stuck in Half Moon Bay traffic for 1.5 hours. Because I was not going to make it by 6PM, I called and was advised not to worry since they would be there until 7PM.
At 6:30 as I ran to a table where I saw a small pile of bibs, including mine, a tall man approached. He said I was too late to pick up my bib and there was nothing I could do, the table was closed and I had no recourse, I was out of luck.
I was crushed. Months of training, friends watching, a hotel room in SF, shoes ready, hundreds of dollars in bib fees, transportation fees, training fees, not to mention Nike gear and I would not be running. I appealed to his sense of fairness but he just repeated I was out of luck.
A woman at the table tried to give me my bib but he vetoed her generosity. She quietly advised I try returning at 5AM when he was not around but could offer no guarantees.
I did not sleep well, to say the least. The next morning at 5AM another woman simply handed me my bib. She said of course I could have it and apologized for the tall guy's nasty attitude.
I have to wonder about a guy who obviously took such pleasure in hurting me. It took no more than 15 seconds to hand me the bib. Seems like it would have been so much faster and easier to let me have it rather than stonily and smugly refusing.
I hope he loses his job.
Cons:
The start was a mess, actually dangerous it was so crowded. Many folks were getting rude and pushy as others got worried. We had no control over our movement as the mosh-pit like crowd began shoving. Hate to think what would have happened had someone tripped.
Pros:
Gorgeous course, lots of well stocked aid and water stations and the finish was really fun with the as-promised studly firemen in Tuxedos and volunteers everywhere handing out yummy stuff.
By: Hilda B.
Posted: October 17, 2011
Worth doing once
I ran this race yesterday and it is indeed a very hilly course. Organization was great, the last 7 miles could be better, lake Merced is quite boring and running alongside traffic and no spectators is not a good place for the last miles of a marathon. It is a marathon you should do once, for the necklace and the whole women's experience but I would not do it again. The last third of the race ruins it for me.
By: Christine Y.
Posted: October 17, 2011
Great start, fizzles out.
Expotique was amazing with lots of free food and goodies and samples. But a 22,000+ crowd means a packed course and late start. Beginning in 10-11:30 corral, I passed the starting line 25 minutes after the gun.
Being a primarily TNT race, lots of walkers blocking the way (I think they get an early start), making for frustrating obstacle, but the course itself was beautiful, weather was cloudy gray and cool. Every water stop seemed like I was bumping into someone. As hills came up, it was impossible to run them even if you wanted to because of the walkers blocking the way. Water/gatorage/first aid stops were appropriately spaced out, some had gatorage G series fit prime 1 bites, they handed out oranges about mile 8, bananas mile 17, chocolate mile 22. No gels! Finisher's tent was a bit disappointing with only plain bagels and more water/gatorade.
Great dri-fit shirt, nice necklace. 2007 course was better with towel and sock handouts midcourse. Course was same with fun beginning and slow painful ending around Lake Merced and great highway. Prob won't do this full again, maybe 1/2.
By: Marian C.
Posted: September 26, 2011
First 16 miles are the best part
This was my first marathon and I had a great experience overall. I ran with a pacing group and our pacer was amazing!! She kept everyone strong and motivated over those grueling hills and got us all to the finish line. Even with those hills, the first 16 miles melted away.
The first half has lots of spectators and the scenery is spectacular. Most of the second half sucks b/c your running on the great highway and around that stupid lake.
Would I ever do the full again? No, I doubt it. I'm glad I ran it but one time is enough. The last 10 miles were boring and I don't need to see that lake ever again!
For those of you wondering, the elevation according to my garmin watch is 1,451 ft. Most of which is within the first 16 miles. This is probably not a course where you are going to PR but you never know. It was my first marathon and with the help of the pacer it was a BQ for me. It was hard but well worth it and I love love love my necklace!
By: Tessa L.
Posted: November 16, 2010
Good run, slickly commercial
I entered this race more or less by accident, having joined a friend's group to up her chances of getting into the half. Then I realized that I had been charged for the full... guess I'm running it.
Website is disjointed and extremely difficult to navigate. I wanted to know when and where the expo is, what the course is, and what time the race starts. That was difficult to find! Expo was well organized; the long line moved quickly.
Start is terrible. No attempt to sort participants, and even if you knew where you were supposed to be you couldn't get there because of all the nonparticipants on the course. And the number of people who pushed to the front and then walked 5-6 abreast was discouraging.
Course was good. Weather can't be helped. It was less hilly than I anticipated. Aid stations great, spectators mostly enthusiastic. The Lake Merced loop was a bit worrisome with us running with traffic and separated from cars only by a few cones.
Finish line was not so hot. They were out of full marathon finisher's shirts by 5 hours. Not a big deal for me, since this was my 46th marathon, but depressing for someone who was finishing her (or his - about 10% of the field was male) first marathon. And if you know rain is forecast, please have lots of Mylar blankets on hand. They were out of them. Necklaces were also a disappointment since they ran out of the 2010 necklaces. They know how many people have entered - it's a lottery race - so there's no excuse for not having shirts, medals, and blankets for all finishers.
Rather than pushing the expensive race buses, why not mention public transport as an option back to the start line?
It was OK, but not the fantabulous event that some people seem to think this race is. Definitely room for improvement.
By: Mary D.
Posted: November 03, 2010
Great!
Third time at Nike - great time. However, the site does not list my personal results!
By: Emily M.
Posted: October 25, 2010
Some issues to work on
So I have mixed feelings on this race. I will say that, ultimately, I had a good experience thanks to some awesome volunteers and women I met along the way. However, felt letdown by the overall organization of the race.
1) The website sucks. Really hard to navigate and frustrating. 2) The expo was sub-par. I had to wait 45 minutes to pick up my packet and then discovered that they ran out of pace bands for my time and wanted to give me a band for a much slower pace than anticipated. It didn't end up being an issue because they didn't enforce pace bands at the starting line-up, but I was still frustrated, especially since I felt like I was getting screwed for getting to the expo on the last day (and I flew across the country to be there!). 3) The start: a little chaotic and super crowded. My top recommendation? Have a separate start for the full marathoners before the half marathoners! It just makes sense because there are not that many people that do the full (probably 1/4 of total participants), so this would alleviate some of the stress with the starting line crowd. 4) The 1st half of the course is very nice (albeit very hilly), but the second half of the marathon is dullsville and had few spectators. 5) The finish was chaotic as well and transportation back to the start was difficult. 6) Seems like a half marathon with the full marathon tacked on as an afterthought.
The pluses of this race? Well-run and well-placed water stops, cheery volunteers, and amazing participants who really supported each other. Liked the necklace (more practical than a medal).
At the end of the day, I am thankful for the experience I had, but I will not run this again. If you are thinking of doing the NWM, run the half and don't worry about your time - just have fun! Pick another marathon if you are seeking a full-marathon PR.
By: Liz Clark
Posted: October 24, 2010
Nike tried their best to screw up this race
If you read through all of the previous comments for this race, they are spot on.
Pros
- Amazing course - very scenic. The hills are legit though, but they offer amazing scenery.
- Great aid stations - they were well stocked and the volunteers were great. They cheered for everyone and filled camelbaks and fuel belts as needed. They also did a great job of clearing the stations of trash.
- Spectator support - good support all over the course (even in the rain). I ran with TNT, so I of course had lots of TNT support, but I heard people cheering for everyone.
Cons
- They ran out of necklaces I got a 2008 one and received an email saying I will receive my new one in 10 to 12 weeks.
- They ran out of space blankets. After running a good 13 miles in the rain, I was freezing when I finished.
- They were out of certain finisher shirt sizes - luckily they still had my size, but many others were not as lucky.
- The massage tent was only open until the finish line closed and actually kicked people out. Personally the massage tent needs to be open at least an hour after the finish line closes. Kaiser was very unprofessional and actually yelled at people to leave. Pick another massage group in the future, Nike.
- Expotique is as advertised, but useless unless you love Nike. They should use the area expo center instead of a tent.
- Lack of a separate marathon start - the number of slow half marathon walkers is insane and there is a lot of traffic until you split off. I even started in a quicker corral than I should have and still had to navigate through walkers. TNT offers an early start and maybe the race should consider opening this up to everyone. Better yet, start the marathon at 7:00 and the half at 8:00
- The race website is useless and it is almost impossible to find standard information
- No race-day tracking and results that are NOT user-friendly
If you are looking for a scenic course and are not worried about your overall time, this is a great race. If you are trying for a PR and you hate navigating traffic, pick another race. If I was ever to do this race again, I would do the half. You get all of the same stuff, but you won't spend half of your day on the course in the rain only to finish and have nothing left because all of the half marathoners and illegal runners took them.
By: Evelyn D.
Posted: October 24, 2010
Don't run the full - do the 1/2
I've run this full twice - in '09 and '10. While there are many positives to this race, I feel that the negatives outway the positives.
The first 16 miles of the full are GORGEOUS, with spectacular views of the Bay - Alcatraz through Crissy Fields as you then climb towards the Golden Gate Bridge and the ocean. Lots of spectators and cheering. Hills are to be respected, with some quad-killing descents. Then you exit the Golden Gate park and you enter a painful, boring section of the course with hardly any other runners if you're towards the front of the pack. Course entertainment was virtually non-existent for the last 10 miles. As you round the lake you have traffic bordering the lake. Very few water stops (I was dying for some water at this point) and the rare TNT spectators (who only seemed to be cheering for those wearing purple). It was just depressing to be one of only a seemingly handful of runners participating in the full (4K full, 16K+ running the 1/2).
The worst part of the race though has to be the throngs of 1st-time runners and packs of TNT runners/walkers who lack any sort of race etiquette: walkers starting in the faster pace groups (lots of walkers in the 7:30 to 8:30 pace group), walking 4 to 6 abreast; I was swimming upstream for miles. Runners were stopping right in front of others to then cross to get water, etc. Very dangerous and rude when there are so many on the course. Those that are trying to make a certain goal time are certainly in for a major challenge weaving through all of the slower runners and walkers at the front of the pack. The starting corrals have to be fixed. TNT really needs to educate their team members on race-day etiquette, as it's apparently missing.
The spectators on course are fantastic - and the volunteers were amazing and incredibly helpful at the end of the race.
I love my Tiffany finisher's necklaces, and I wear them with pride (so much better than a medal!).
I won't be doing this full again. But it is a fantastic race for 1st-time 1/2 marathon runners. Just don't expect a PR with the major elevation gains.
By: Kate W.
Posted: October 21, 2010
Just Do It!
Perfect combination of challenging, exciting and rewarding. CHALLENGING: The hills are tough - and there are a few of them, but they are all doable (and what goes up must come down; for every hill there are some long down hills). EXCITING: The atmosphere was great, thanks to 20,000 women running, frequent spectators, and "power songs" at every 2 or 3 miles. REWARDING: It's amazing how motivating a Tiffany's necklace can be! Overall, Nike did a GREAT job organizing the entire thing, including spanning the 3 days prior (in the city center, with food samples and live demonstrations to build up the event). I will do this again and highly recommend it.
By: Sheila L.
Posted: October 21, 2010
NICE SURPRISE!!
I was so looking forward to this run and so happy I got in on the 1st try, I didn't even bother to read any reviews... until the Thursday before the race. Then I was freaking out - there are so many bad things that were written about this race and course. It was absolutely beautiful! Of course there were hills; it IS San Francisco. The shortage of necklaces at the end was strange to me - it's not like they didn't have plenty of advance notice. I liked the expo - but I prefer a bit more diversity of product vendors. I didn't expect there to be many though because it was a specific retailer that sponsored the run.
I would run this race again in a heartbeat. The support was incredible and the views were PRICELESS!!
By: Becky B.
Posted: October 20, 2010
Nice course, but get up front to avoid the walkers
Ran the full anticipating a 7:30 average pace. Corral wrist bands were "on your honor" at the expo. Start was a mess. I got stuck back with the 12:00 pace runners and it was a mess for 3-4 miles. Also, shuttle bus back to Union Square was a joke. There was a one-hour wait in the rain and many were stranded. RD needs to advertise that Muni goes to the finish and take that for only $3.00. I realize it was a big TNT event, but it got annoying dodging the walkers who started up front. Need to do colored bibs like NYCM and patrolled corrals.
Course is beautiful though. Aid stations and volunteers are extremely helpful and there were plenty of them.
By: RD H.
Posted: October 20, 2010
The start needs to be in waves
The start was horrible! Everyone was cut loose all at once. You need to start in waves of the timed groups with a 3 to 4 minute separation. We were cattle, bumping into everyone, not able to run our pace due to slower runners upfront and people tossing clothes to the side, but unfortunately there was nowhere where there were no people. Runners were on the sidewalks, etc.
By: Kristen P.
Posted: October 19, 2010
Not worth the hype!
I totally agree with the previous post. Having run marathons and halves in major cities with big sponsors and small-town races with few spectators, I was very disappointed in this race! I will say that they allowed me to switch from the full to the half as I am running another marathon in 3 weeks and I'm glad I didn't waste all my energy on this race!
Considering how much they spend to advertise and promote this woman-power thing, you'd think things would be clearly marked as there seemed to be more first-time walkers/runners here.
Top disappointments:
Too big of a race not to have starting corrals. All the TNT people were in huge packs and it was hard to get into the area.
Baggage drop off. Why not do it the way all other races do it? Just have buses/drop-off areas organized by the last number of your bib. Don't make people hunt around frantically at 6:30 a.m. trying to find an open window on a bus to get a sticker from, hoping you'll see your stuff at the end.
Mark areas at the start and end! Start of the race, where bathrooms are, shuttles, etc... simple. Spend the money on signs, not big, bright spotlights in the morning.
Costly shuttle buses!! I found it insane to have to pay 15 bucks for a shuttle and then heard there were hour-long lines! Take the public bus back for 2 bucks.
Tracking???!! As a huge race with many first-time people, you'd think a major sponsor like Nike would offer athlete tracking. Nope.
To sum it up, very disappointing. Glad I didn't do the full; I would have also have been disappointed if this were my first race, as it was disorganized and very hilly (that is, mountainous)!
By: Lisa M.
Posted: October 19, 2010
Expo a Disappointment
I was really excited to get into the Nike Women's Marathon. The idea of running a race with the majority of participants being women and for such a great cause was exciting. However, I was extremely unimpressed with the expo. There was nothing there. Most expos have vendors selling running essentials. Also, in my opinion, the half marathoners should have begun before the full marathoners (i.e. half-hour headstart). As usual people did not slot themselves according to pace and shortly after starting I ran into walkers who should have been at the back with other walkers. Also, many of the racers had poor race etiquette and did not shoulder check before passing and/or run to the side on the hills to let others pass. On a positive note, the course was beautiful and I really like the finisher shirt; however, I don't think I should have had to run the race to get the shirt - the necklace yes, but the shirt no. I would run the race again, but only the half.
By: Jeff G.
Posted: October 18, 2010
Better than what most people say
OK. I'm a dude and I didn't run this with Team in Training. So, I think I have a good perspective as an "outsider." First of all, I didn't run this for the necklace (OK, it made my wife happy) or the hot pink finisher's shirt (OK, it made my daughter happy). Nonetheless, the support on the course was awesome. The first half is the most scenic and also the most difficult. Lots of hills. There are no cable car hills, but you begin to wonder if the entire course is uphill. The second half is pretty flat and you do get to see quite a bit of the Pacific Ocean. Pretty cool if you live in Oklahoma. Lots of support along the way. The pacers are awesome and they don't care if you're a guy or a girl, just so you finish strong. I wasn't as impressed with the firefighters as many of my fellow runners were, but I saw quite a few swoons by the ladies at the end. Yeah, there were walkers at the start that line up in the wrong pen, but that happens in every race. It's no big deal if you do the full. Consider it your warmup. I started slow, but still finished under 4 hours. I would do this race again.
By: Margaret O.
Posted: October 18, 2010
Loved the Marathon
This is my first marathon and I enjoyed it a lot. Loved the gospel group outside the Ferry Building and would have liked to have seen them again toward the end. Enjoyed the swag toward the end and thought it was well organized. Would like to exchange my finisher's t-shirt but can't figure out how to contact anyone. Email on contact page doesn't work.
By: Lisa O.
Posted: October 18, 2010
Tiffany - NOT Nike - disappointing
I finished the marathon (full) in plenty of time; however, I was very disappointed to be handed a Tiffany's box that included a necklace from 2007 and was shortly handed a note that told me my finisher's necklace would be mailed to me in 3 weeks. Also, I don't feel half marathoners should have received the same gift. Sad ending to a great day!
By: Lisa M.
Posted: October 18, 2010
Course definitely designed for half marathoners
This race received so much hype, but did not live up to its standards. It's very commercialized, given that it's run by Nike. There were so many walkers and people stopping in the middle of the race to take pictures, while other walkers were texting and just getting in the way. Nike needs to have a later start for walkers. The support was not impressive and the website offered little information. For those running this race next year, do not buy the $10 shuttle ticket! You will wait in line forever. Take the #5 bus into town. It's free! This race is all about Nike making money. I will never run it again.
By: Kathi E.
Posted: October 17, 2010
Great race; where are results?
I ran the full marathon and it was a great race as always. I've run it since it started in 2004. This year it was raining in the end but it made for a fast time to have it cooler. Nike always puts up a well organized race and the Tiffany's necklace is a nice treat. Poor firefighters got wet in their tuxes today.
The website is horrible again, and again Nike couldn't get any results online. How can it be so difficult to post results that have been timed with a timing chip? Even much smaller races (and much larger ones) manage to do this in real time, not within days. Hence my 2-star rating for organization.
Get a better website and post the results right away!!!!
By: Christina R.
Posted: September 20, 2010
Best half marathon ever!
I've run the full marathon on this course twice and the half marathon 3 times. Hands down, this is the best running event of the year. The Tiffany necklace is my motivation along with the opportunity to get together with my best friends for the weekend.
The half marathon course is beautiful and I agree - it's not worth doing the full only to get to the halfway point, see everyone celebrating and then realize you have another 13 miles to go.
And for everyone who says they won't run this event again, please don't! There will be more spots open for the rest of us. For the last two years I have missed out getting in through the lottery, but I manage to gain entry through Nike+ challenges throughout the year.
I love this race! And I love that they encourage walkers to participate.
By: Anna Kate M.
Posted: August 09, 2010
Don't run the full; walk the half
This was my third marathon, and I was so excited to win the lottery to be allowed to enter it. From the start I was disappointed with the organization. I thought that since Nike was running it, everything would be fine, but the website was not user-friendly; it was difficult to find out when the lottery was, and the map of the race was not downloadable or printable, to name a few of my complaints. On race weekend, when I went to the expo I could not believe there was no race shirt in the packet. When I asked about it I was told they hand them out at the end. Are they kidding? I have run dozens of races of various lengths, and I have never heard of handing out shirts at the end. First of all, it clogs the finish line, and secondly, what if someone tries to run and can't finish? I wondered why they would do that and then realized it was to make everyone go to the flagship Nike store on the corner of the expo and spend more money to buy shirts. They realize that everyone wants to run the race in a race shirt, so there were lots of shirts for sale (at $50 apiece) in the store, but they don't give you your official, free, race shirt until after you run the race. I thought that was kind of crappy.
Then on race morning, I could not get into my corral because of all the TNT walkers everywhere. I did not realize it at the time, but all the TNT members who were doing the half marathon (many, many of them walkers) were lined up in every corral. On the narrow streets and hills there were times I had to stop and walk simply because there was no way around them. I commend anyone who walks or runs any length, so I am not putting down anyone who was doing the half marathon, whether walking or running. But the race officials should be making sure that everyone is lining up in their correct corrals so that everyone has an enjoyable and productive race. Perhaps there should even be separate races or start times for the full and half marathons. For half of the race I was stuck behind groups of people walking together, taking up the road - and then at the half marathon they were done, and I still had the second half to go and was way behind my time.
The race is clearly designed for half marathoners, because the first half was beautiful and scenic, and the second half was awful. We had to run on busy streets and on long sections of lonely road. At one point I ran past a turn, going off the course, and had to go back, and when I did the race volunteers were cheerfully laughing, and I was incredibly annoyed that they just watched me go off course and never said anything. Added to that was the fact that they charged a fee for anyone who wanted their real-time race results emailed to friends or family, and I paid for that and it didn't work, apparently for anyone. My family received notice that I had crossed the start line, and then nothing, so they were very worried. I got my money back eventually, but that was just one more thing that was wrong with this race.
I would not do it again.
By: Melinda M.
Posted: August 08, 2010
First half is best!!
I have run NWM twice and am running it again this October (2010). The first half of the course is hilly, but gorgeous! The second half - particularly the LAKE section - is pretty bad. I do not like running in traffic and jumping from road to sidewalk, but that's part of it! I run for the chance to go to San Fran and get Kara's cupcakes!! My advice to anyone considering this race, unless you just WANT to do a full marathon, is DO THE HALF (it's all good)!!!
By: Nycki P.
Posted: April 18, 2010
AMAZING Half - and a pretty good full
I ran the full marathon last year with TNT. This race is designed for TNT, so don't enter it if you're not happy to deal with mobs of TNT runners and supporters. I've run dozens of halfs and this was hands down my favorite - the energy and excitement is unbelievable, support is great, and all the motivation is there. Nike puts on a great race - and the apparel is worth the run alone. This was my first full marathon and it was ok. The best scenery is in the first half, and then it tapers off (along with the fans and crowds) after mile 14. I ran a 4:57, but because I started in a later wave, there were almost no people at the finish line by the time I got there (which made for a very unexciting finish). Also, there is a one-mile walk to the buses to take you back to the start line, plus a long line (not good when you just want to sit down and cry after running 26 miles). Also, the chocolate mile by Ghirardelli at Mile 21 is a great idea, but DON'T eat the chocolate until you're done! The good news is that there is a Tiffany's necklace waiting at the finish line for you (which is honestly 90% of the reason I finished) along with a hot firefighter in a tux (although they were past bored by the time I got to the finish line), so the finish line is calling your name the entire way!!! I'm running Nike again with TNT this year, but I'm doing the half instead of the full this time around.
By: Whitney P.
Posted: April 11, 2010
Beautiful course, great race!
Overall, this was an amazing experience and I have nothing but happy memories. Seeing the sun rise over the Bay Bridge as the race began, while surrounded by 20,000 other runners, was absolutely breathtaking, and I actually teared up a bit. I loved the first 18 miles and the last 2 miles of the course, which was very scenic. The expo isn't great, but honestly, I've been to so many other expos that all seem to be exactly the same that I didn't really mind. Just make sure to bring your own energy gels with you because you won't find any at the expo. One thing I really loved was the Nike apparel produced for the race - it was all very cute and designed with women in mind. Also, the weather was PERFECT - sunny and in the high 50's. The race volunteers were wonderful and very organized.
My main complaint is that this race seemed a little like a big half marathon with a full marathon tacked on. I read afterward that of the 20,000 participants, a few over 4,000 completed the full marathon. I wouldn't mind except that the lack of spectators on the second half of the course was very noticeable, and it was also the least attractive portion of the course by far. Lake Merced (approximately miles 19-24) was the worst part. There was no scenery to look at, the field had really thinned out to where I felt like I was on a solo training run, and there was one point when we were running in a single lane of traffic that had been blocked off. It was underwhelming after having run the first half of the marathon through more scenic areas. Having said that, I really enjoyed exiting Lake Merced and running the final stretch down the Great Highway.
One thing to be aware of is that there are simply more runners than what can be accommodated in the starting area at Union Square. I had read other reviewers complaining about people with Team In Training lining up in the incorrect area. Since it was my first full marathon and since I was running with TNT, I really wanted to start out in the correct area so as to not add to the negative stereotype. Well, I ended up starting with the 9:00-minute milers even though I planned to run 10:00-minute miles, because it was absolutely impossible to get to my correct starting area due to the crowd, and a race official actually made me go ahead and start running with the wrong group. Another complaint is that Nike's race website is ridiculously unhelpful. I understand that they wanted to make it look like a blog, but sometimes people like to look information up in advance.
At the end of the day, the pros far outweighed the cons and I would definitely run this race again!
By: Lauren B.
Posted: April 02, 2010
Hills, hills, hills
This is one of the most challenging courses you can ever run. Hill after hill. I had done months of hill training and felt it was extremely difficult. The sixth mile is unnecessarily high and I blew out my knee on the long downhill that followed. There's also a lake late in the race that you circle, where you run alongside traffic with no spectators. I will say that the final miles along the ocean were beautiful and drove me to finish strong. It was well organized and there were fabulous items to buy, which is perfect for a woman's marathon; but I won't be doing this race again.
By: That G.
Posted: March 16, 2010
Loved the event, but the start was horrid
My primary complaint is about the start. I couldn't get into my corral and had absolutely no room to move at all for 30+ minutes due to the spectators and supporters who felt they needed to stand right next to the person they knew running. If everyone brought one person to start line with them, you could imagine the chaos that would cause. Even if I stretched prior to going to the start line, I would still like to touch my toes and keep my body warm while waiting for the start. The organizers need to determine some way to only allow runners into the corral area. I know with the start being in the middle of downtown that may be difficult, but something needs to be figured out.
Other than that I loved the race and the event. I bought much more commemorative merchandise than I usually do because of the great designs and selection of items available.
And it was the perfect time of year to run in San Francisco... just beautiful!
By: Shannon C.
Posted: March 02, 2010
Needs improvement.
I ran the half in 2007 and the full in 2009, and I had a much better time with the half.
My complaint with both pertain to the walkers, who were EVERYWHERE!!!! My last third of the half was almost 8 minutes faster than the first third because I had finally gotten past all of the walkers! The full marathon was no better.
As far as the course goes, the part of the course after the half split off was horrid. There were also hills that everyone was walking, which created quite the bottleneck. The start corrals needed to be actually enforced!!!
The necklaces are cool, but my 2009 one broke about a month after I got it. Lame.
By: Marty L.
Posted: February 20, 2010
Nice area to run in, and a great necklace
The communication for registration needs to be improved in addition to the website. The event was fun. The expo was far below expections for Nike. It was geared toward Team in Training, which is not bad; it's just that participants need to know that ahead of time. Overall, I enjoyed it, but I do believe that Nike should place a little more effort into the event. It could be the event to talk about!
By: Jenn A.
Posted: January 31, 2010
It is great with improvements needed
I have run this event for the last three years. The website needs a lot of help. I read a comment in regards to the second half of the full marathon, and I could not agree more. From the time that you split from the half marathoners and see the faster runners approaching the finish line (while you are at your halfway point), it's frustrating, and with all of the spectators at that point, every year it is confusing as to which direction to go, even having been there and done that before. That is the last place that spectators are a problem because around the lake they are nearly non-existent.
The traffic on the street around the lake is worrisome, and there are not enough water stops. Forget chocolate, even though it is cool; as a runner you need water and Gatorade. Not to mention: Every time I have run this, the chocolate stop (which would have been my favorite) was out of milk chocolate and I HATE dark chocolate. But that's not really an issue - just a gripe. Aid stations are located around the course, which is helpful, and there are many of them on the first half, though the second half is lacking. Running the highway next to the ocean is awesome, but you have several miles around that lake to get to that point.
It is great, but it would be nice if a few adjustments were made in order to make it safer with the traffic. This is not a small event; other runners were literally in the street, blocking a lane that was open to traffic. That could become a disaster!
By: Heather H.
Posted: January 23, 2010
Great marathon - had a blast!
I'm surprised at the negative comments that I'm reading! This was my fourth marathon - my first Nike Women's in San Fran - and I thought it was very well-organized. It very much feels like it's about "power to the women," and I thought the fans were great! My last marathon was Boston, and I honestly felt that this one was every bit as exciting and well-executed. I did not run with Team-in-Training, but still felt that I got plenty of encouragement from the volunteers. The others women who I met on route felt the same way as I did - we called it a huge success!
By: Laura F.
Posted: November 09, 2009
I expected so much more... or did I?
Expo: It's Nike; what do you expect? Lack of vendors, insanely long lines, and don't think about getting any little Nike freebie's or discounts for NikeTown.
First Half: scenic enough, challenging, and mostly enjoyable. The start is a disaster though. I was literally trapped between hordes of unmoving spectators with many fellow runners when trying to make it to our starting "groups" before the start.
Second Half: the stretch by the beach is tragic. The dozen or so spectators didn't help the mundane scenery, and the course loops, so you're running at a gradual incline right by the faster runners in their final stretch for a few miles. It's demoralizing more than it is motivating.
Overall: The necklace IS a sweet idea. The marathon IS geared towards women. If you're making a mini-vacation out of it with girlfriends, it could be fun, as a whole experience. The actual RACE though? I felt water/Gatorade/LUNA Bar stations were frequent enough, and the Ghirardelli mile was a treat. The fewest spectators on a whole course than I have ever seen before. It was sad, really. I will probably never run a Team In Training marathon again. It is probably a very helpful and supportive organization, but they offer support and encouragement ONLY to Team in Training participants, which was annoying. There are much more fun and stimulating races to be had.
By: Dana M.
Posted: November 09, 2009
Not a fun race for full marathoners...
Okay... first and foremost, this race is completely catered to half marathoners. The first half of the race was awesome; the course was gorgeous (hilly, but it's San Fran... duh!), and there was enough water, food, and fan support, and then, WHAMMY... come mile 16 everyone disappears!
That lake is the pits. The traffic is too close, there aren't enough water stations, and those stupid moons and a piece of chocolate at miles 21-23 are no substitute for a banana (which you received at mile 10). Starting full and halfers at the same time makes for an entirely chaotic race atmosphere and having walkers starting in front of you is, well... frustrating.
For spectators, I bought my parents those $15 shuttle tickets... and they said it was a joke and ended up going back to the hotel and getting the rental car.
Maybe I'm just really bummed because I was expecting the super fun, well-managed, women-celebrating race that Nike had promised to deliver, and at the end of it all, I really just felt like Nike's main objective was getting inside my wallet. Extremely disappointing. I can promise I will not be back next year or ever again.
Oh... and yeah... the website is a joke.
By: Jo B.
Posted: November 06, 2009
Half marathon course is a winner
This is the fourth time I have done this event - three with Team-in-Training - and this year I got in via the lottery. For those asking about walkers on the full marathon course, TNT participants who are slow runners and the walkers get to start out 90 minutes earlier, and that is why you came upon them in the full marathon. I agree that Nike has to get a handle on the corrals.
I also agree about trash/waste bins. This was the first year I had to negotiate the orange peels; and who would put bananas out on a course? Peels and mashed bananas on the road are a recipe for disaster. I do hope no one was injured.
I didn't read through all the comments, but I remember some from earlier years commenting on the lack of support along the way. The volunteers at the aid stations need to remember that there are more non-TNT participants and they should be cheering them on instead of just saying, "Go Team." Having been on both sides of it now, it is discouraging to hear nothing but "Go Team." Volunteers should be instructed to say things like "way to go," "looking good," etc. TNT has enough of their staff along the way to encourage their own.
I hope I am lucky enough to get chosen next year in the lottery, as I love the city and the course. For those not impressed with the expo, remember it is an "expotique" geared towards pampering the participants.
By: Julia J.
Posted: October 30, 2009
Great course; Nike website & race info poor
This was my first Nike SF Women's Half Marathon. The course was beautiful, though a few of the uphills were very challenging. I had to walk up those, but I had fun running down the other side! The aid stations were well stocked (water, Gatorade, GU, Ghiradelli chocolate, oranges, bananas) and the volunteers were wonderful. There was lots of fun entertainment - thank you so much.
I loved receiving my finisher's necklace - given to me by a cool-looking fireman dressed in a tux, in a box tied with a ribbon. I wear it with pride and everyone comments on it - it's so much nicer than a chunky medallion that hides away at the back of a drawer. And the finisher's tech t-shirt is one to be seen in. The marathon runners got their recognition of their efforts on the t-shirt, not on the necklace.
Plenty of food available after the race, at least when I finished. That kept us going until we got back to Union Square and headed off for a hot bowl of soup at the nearest restaurant.
Stretchers tent at the finish was a great idea. An instructor was leading a stretching session and there was another area where you could stretch on mats using foam rollers. Safeway gave out a freebie tennis ball and instructional after-race booklet - excellent!
Negatives:
No mileage markers. I had no clue as to where I was on the course until I got to the Ghiradelli aid station at mile 11! Make sure you have a pocket to tuck that chocolate away for later. Nike gave us a very nice laminated card with lots of useful info, same as what was provided on the website. Not terribly useful when you are out there running it!
Website was a nightmare to negotiate, but great if I want to shop Nike!
Don't waste your time looking on Nike website for race results. Be creative in your Google search and you will find the results.
The start was poorly organized. They made an attempt to start runners according to pace time, but it wasn't enforced. I found myself at the start in a non-moving crowd of people neither able to move forward or backward. A lot of them were spectators! I wasn't aiming for a nine-minute mile, but I did have to dodge past groups of slower people. It really wasn't a hassle. And the good vibe of the participants certainly made up for any annoyance I might have felt....
Aid stations lacked enough trash bins - there were cups, banana skins and orange peels for you to trip up on.
Expo was lame, due to lack of variety of vendors, and it was very crowded at 2 p.m. on Saturday afternoon, but it was fun watching the fashion show and the stationary bike smoothie maker was a brilliant idea. Make sure you pedal fast or you'll end up with a chunky smoothie!
Be prepared for a long wait for the shuttle buses - well, with 20,000 people taking part, I wasn't surprised. But the line moved swiftly and the camaraderie was great. The baggage pick up worked like a charm - I would definitely recommend using it to store a change of clothes for after the race to keep warm whilst waiting for the bus. The Nike website did recommend this - very good tip.
By: vaughan n.
Posted: October 27, 2009
Course beautiful, website awful, few spectators
Ok, I agree with everyone on the website. It was and is terrible. The course is difficult and beautiful. Having walkers going out at 5:30 is GREAT. Most get out of the way, when the runners catch up at about the 11th mile. Relax, everybody; if you want to make a personal best time, go to Chicago or somewhere else flat. Hills are for enjoying. Most if not all walkers are doing it for a charity, so go easy. I was disappointed in the lack of spectators that were missing till the very end. Half the time no one was on the street. This was my ninth marathon and the poorest attended by spectators. Also, why were there no stories in the papers the next day?
By: Susan C.
Posted: October 26, 2009
Blog like a childl?
I ran the full marathon for the third year in a row and am amazed that Nike continues to go with a marathon website that can only be characterized as if it were designed by a five-year-old!
By: suzanne m.
Posted: October 25, 2009
WEBSITE WAS THE WORST IN MY 3 YEARS OF DOING NIKE
This is the third time I ran this race and look forward to it every year; however, the website this year was by far the worst!! Then, I felt much disappointment when I saw so many walkers (slow ones too!) in front of me and I was in the 10-minute pace. It is just dangerous to have walkers in front of runners. I know that most of them probably belonged in the yellow walk group at the end but did not want to be last to start. Nike really, really needs to get a handle on the walkers and pull them off the course if they start sooner than they should. A little disappointed to get a finisher's shirt with advertisement on the back - tacky, Nike!! On the full marathon, the Merced Lake portion just sucks - boring, ugly and dangerous, with cars getting too close to the course. As I ran it I remembered why I did not like doing the Nike full.
By: Celeste W.
Posted: October 24, 2009
Necklace great, city fabulous, organization worst
I am very glad and grateful that I ran the SF Marathon. The spirit and meaning of the women running and supporting was the greatest. I'm wearing my necklace every day. "Run Like A Girl" is a message we should convey to every woman and girl we know.
But this is without a doubt the WORST organized and managed marathon - or for that matter race, including local 5Ks - I have ever run. It was my 19th marathon and I have run too many halfs, 10-milers, 10Ks, and 5Ks to count. From the start, the website was a horrible and annoying nightmare. But I hoped I would get over the ridiculous Nike marketing slant once I got to the event, but found it even worse. The expo is a joke, folks. For those running in future, just plan to breeze through and pick up your packet. Run to Niketown to buy any shirts, etc., you want for souvenirs (because that is the only place you can buy anything). But don't expect anything other than Big Brother mind control to get you to sign up to Nike promotions.
The start was awful. Many marathons do not impose pace restrictions, but within the first mile, masses of walkers were blocking the road ahead of nine-minute milers. I did take some consolation in my 10-minute first mile as a slow start caution, but it never ended. Did walkers get to start early? How come there were walkers ahead of me (blocking the road) at mile 16 and beyond?
At the finish, I found a set of lovely women for the bus (this IS TRULY the best thing about this marathon - the women) who generously agreed to save my place in line so I could walk back and forth rather than standing in line for the shuttle bus. I would have otherwise cramped up and had to be transported back to Union Square by ambulance (maybe I should have gone that route).
This truly was the worst organized race I have ever participated in, and there is no excuse, given the Nike corporate behemoth. I am glad I did it, but once is enough, and anyone contemplating it should realize what they are getting into.
By: Rhonda G.
Posted: October 24, 2009
Fantastic, Well Organized Race
The race was extremely well organized. I was very impressed with the attention to detail and the wonderful runner support. Event organizers tried to get participants to line up according to their pace, but most participants just did what they wanted to do. I spent the first two miles dodging the slower joggers and walkers. By the time we got to Fisherman's Wharf, the field moved smoothly.
Before the race, I was worried about the hills, but they were very manageable, and I really enjoyed the beautiful scenery. The hardest part for me was when I hit Lake Merced at mile 19, and realized I had to run around the entire lake. It looks really big. Aid stations were plentiful. During the last half of the full marathon, there were aid stations at every mile. They gave out water, Gatorade, bananas, orange slices, Luna snacks, and chocolate.
Along the way, there was much to entertain (loved the Top Ten Reasons!) and encourage the runners. The finish line was tremendous. Handsome firemen, pretty blue boxes, a gorgeous necklace, thermal blankets, bananas, bagels, chocolate milk, yogurt/granola, Luna bars, shopping bag, cool shirt, massages, etc. The line for the buses was long, but moved VERY quickly and the people were absolutely fantastic.
I am so glad that I got into this race!
Kudos to Nike and Eternal Timing. My friends at home in Texas knew my race times before I got back to Union Square. The results were posted on the Eternal Timing website by the time I finished my shower!
By: Nicky C.
Posted: October 24, 2009
Good marathon but did not live up to the hype
This was my first marathon so I don't have anything to compare it to, but I had high expectations based on previous years' reviews, so I was slightly disappointed.
I have to agree with many others: the website was horrible and nearly impossible to navigate. Thank god for the emails with detailed information or I would have been lost.
I loved the necklace and shirt but was very disappointed to learn that the half-marathon runners got the same thing. It was frustrating to know I could have run half the distance to get the pretty necklace, even though I would not have the bragging rights that I have now.
The course was hilly but not nearly as bad as I expected. If you train on enough hills you will be fine.
I also agree that the walkers were very frustrating. I spent a lot of time trying to get around them, expending a lot of extra energy.
The crowd support was awesome, which is much needed when running 26.2 miles. I would do this race again, and at least now I know what to expect.
By: Lily H.
Posted: October 23, 2009
Good challenging course, bad organization
Although the course is hilly and the streets are uneven (I fell hitting a bump in the road!), I would run the race again for the sake of the course. I like its challenge in that respect.
The website for the race has by far been the worst to navigate through. There were constant website crashes, and not to mention that you had to sift through the entire blog to find race details and course info. Also, the chip timing results were not readily available after the race because of technical difficulties.
The start should be more organized as well. The pace groups were split up into different times but this also allowed walkers to be mixed within. This was not a good idea to have walkers starting so early in front of the other runners and made the start very difficult. The race should be organized so that walkers are aware to start in the back.
By: Amy C.
Posted: October 23, 2009
Beautiful scenery, frustrating start
The course was amazing!!! Incredible views of the ocean, and Golden Gate Park was humbling! The start was not very organized in regard to walkers and runners lining up together. I lined up at nine minutes per mile and passed hundreds of walkers ahead of me. : ( It was dangerous and my finish time definitely suffered because of it. Why not a staggered or wave start, or walkers in a separate start? I fully support marathon walkers - I couldn't do it : ) - but in a race of this size with many more people participating in the half, there has got to be a better way. Start them earlier maybe, and then have a wave start for the rest of us? Otherwise, it was simply a beautiful way to spend 26.2 miles once I got out of the pack about mile 3 or 4! Unforgettable!
By: Alice M.
Posted: October 23, 2009
Logistics were a nightmare
Overall, the good may have outweighed the bad. This was my eighth marathon, and the worst organized. The inept race organizers make up for their failures in the overall specialness of the event, but I was glad to be done with Nike. Because it's a lot of people's first/only marathon, Nike can get away with throwing a bad show.
Positives:
-Beautiful course... and an awesome challenge
-The finish line with firemen and necklace
-The Ghirardelli chocolate stop
-Shuttle transported spectators
Negatives:
-No e-mail for anyone in my group saying we got in (I found out on my credit card statement)
-No additional e-mails about the race (including the email for packet pick up)
-Nike website was difficult to negotiate. As one friend put it... "It's all about Nike with a little blog about an upcoming marathon."
-We finished in five hours and most of the food treats were already gone (I got a banana and a tablespoon of cereal)
-The expo was completely limited to about two vendors... and the manicure line is over an hour
-The race results took many long days to post
-Runner-tracking didn't work, but at least they gave me a refund afterward
By: Masako R.
Posted: October 22, 2009
Need a better website!!!!
Positives:
1. Beautiful route
2. Fireman in a tux at the finish line with a blue box
3. Well stocked hydration stations
Negatives:
1. The worst website!!!!!
2. No other vendors at the expo (bring GU, Shot Bloks, etc.)
3. Too many walkers blocks the streets
4. Leukemia & Lymphoma teams FORGET that there are many runners without support groups
5. Waited in line for more than an hour to get on the return shuttle cold and tired!!!!!
6. Same finisher necklace for both the full and half marathons; why should I run the full then?
By: Susan S.
Posted: October 22, 2009
Product-driven, congested, overhyped
I'm glad that Nike is bringing money to cancer research, which is truly a worthy cause. However, the Nike merchandising was crazy-over-the-top. Normally an expo includes well known speakers lecturing on running topics, and I look forward to learning something about training/running/racing. I enjoy previewing new products and race information from other companies. Nike Women's Marathon SF offered none of this. NO outside races were promoted, and no other vendors products were previewed, except Nike and a few sponsors like Luna. The race course was lovely, but runners were elbow to elbow for miles. Very hard to get past walkers who started up front. Too many people in too small an area. Things did break up around mile 17. The lines for the shuttle buses back to Union Square were unreal. They have got to make some improvements to cut down on the two-plus hours of standing in line we had to endure for a bus after a 26.2 run. That was just too painful. My advice to runners interested in running this race: take lots of money if you want to buy lots of Nike, but save enough money to pay for a cab (at least $30.00) from the end of the race back to Union Square. Skip the prepaid bus!
By: Shirley M.
Posted: October 22, 2009
Nike Website!
The race was great, but the website was the worst. The blog approach DOES NOT work. I spent more time trying to find information than actually running the race!
By: Mary A.
Posted: October 22, 2009
Tough but challenging with poor organization
As many others have mentioned, the course was even hillier than expected, but it offered a great challenge. This was my second marathon and I was able to PR at 4:58. Although there are 20,000 runners, only 4,000 do the full marathon. This can be a little hard to swallow when the halfers are at the finish and you turn off to do your last 10 miles.
I see the results are now posted here, but I was distraught to see that my name was not listed. Nike suggested finding the results a different site. I do show up there, but of course all of my friends use Marathon Guide, and they thought I didn't finish.
Great, scenic run, a good cause, and a great necklace, but I won't run again.
By: Dawn S.
Posted: October 21, 2009
Fun City, Poor Website and Start
The visit to San Francisco was fabulous, and the course was fun and festive. The finish with the firemen (:-)) was the best finish I've experienced (I've done 13).
I didn't like trying to maintain a nine-minute pace behind lots of walkers - more dodging than I've ever done.
Also, trying to get information from the official website was a lesson in frustration.
By: Sarah M.
Posted: October 21, 2009
Great city and views, but not-so-great start/end
I loved most of the course - what's not to love about SF? The Lake Merced loop needs to be removed; it was horrible. The finish line was great with the massage tent; however, they don't tell you that you have to buy food at the end. No information is given out at the expo, which really shouldn't be called an "expo." It was just a poor excuse for Nike to promote more of their stuff. The start line was disorganized. The Chocolate Mile is a joke. I would not do this race again, even for another locket.
By: Brenda L.
Posted: October 21, 2009
Exhilarating, emotional = AWESOME
This was my first full marathon, and it completely exceeded any and all expectations! SF is a beautiful city and the whole experience was just amazing! I HIGHLY recommend it to all. Great support, with aid stations, water and "treats" along the way.
By: Janice L.
Posted: October 21, 2009
Run Like a Girl
This was my fifth consecutive time running this race. The first three years I ran the full, and the past two (including this year) I ran the half. As with most races that offer both a full and half, the half is usually the better of the two. This is the case here as well. The necklace is always a plus, and that's why I keep coming back. I like the idea of a women's race. There should be some rules for the walkers to follow, like only staying two abreast and walking to the right or something. It's very frustrating trying to maneuver around these walkers. Also, a NEGATIVE 10 on the website. What a joke. It's impossible to find out anything. I've gone on three times and still cannot even find the results. But I'll be back again next year. Running in SF is great.
By: Dee N.
Posted: October 21, 2009
Nike Women's Marathon
I agree with all of the runners who have made a comment - what a beautiful route, and the weather was just perfect (great running weather). The only thing is, as an individual runner not part of Team In Training, you were the outcast. There were tons of cheers for TNT but none for the individual runners. That's unfortunate - no encouragement outside of yourself to keep you going.It's definitely a fun run. Yes, there was a long line for transportation to get back to AT&T Park, but overall, I would highly recommend this run!
By: Eleanor M.
Posted: October 21, 2009
Great for Participants, a Trial for Guests
I had a wonderful time participating in the event (finding my name on the wall, shopping Nike Town, etc.) and running this race. The aid stations were planned well and the course was awesome. However, my sister had trouble with the transportation I paid for for her, so she wasn't able to watch me finish. She said the buses were so full that she took a taxi to get to me. Otherwise, I had a wonderful time. I did it through Team In Training, and that made a WORLD OF DIFFERENCE. I wouldn't do this event any other way!
Go Team!
By: Cecilia D.
Posted: October 21, 2009
Loved the scenic route - website sucks
I loved the run - even the hills were not as bad as I has imagined. I have to agree with another comment - why were all of those walkers in the 9 - 9:59 pace line? That drove my crazy. Also, the website is terrible. I loved, loved, loved the presentation of the necklaces. Overall, a great experience. This was my first marathon with that many people!
By: Anne W.
Posted: October 21, 2009
Great weather, challenging course, average race
Keep it up: great job with the bag drop process. Plenty of porta-potties, loved the oranges, shuttles were oh so comfy and warm after the race, excellent stretching tent/trainers/rollers, etc. Loved the necklace.
Opportunities for improvement: Why am I still looking for results for a chip-timed race two days later????? The website is really below average - do some bench-marking and fix it up. For your location near Silicon Valley, it should be easy to find people to help with this. Split the 10-12 minute group into two, since most are slower. Try to encourage walkers to stay to the side of road - I've never dodged so many inexperienced people in my life for so long in a race (still managed a PR though). More nutrition after 16 or 17 miles (including another orange/banana stop). Save the chocolate for the finish - I couldn't eat it after 21 miles of running. Use gels - the moons were WAY too sticky. Spread out the water stations - too congested. More post-race food for the runners - we need our nutrition, and have paid enough for the race to cover the cost. Get the ocean highway paved - I wish I had trail shoes on that segment. Make your mile markers more visible - I missed two of them, and there wasn't one at 26. (Some of us are data geeks.) Get the radio stations involved for additional music - I can't fault volunteers, but more fast pace running songs would have helped. Speakers were way too loud on the highway at about 16 miles in - I had to cover my ears.
By: Shelley L.
Posted: October 21, 2009
Beautiful course, poor organization
This was my 11th marathon and I was really looking forward to it. I should have known from the website that the event would be disorganized. The website was difficult to navigate and was not clear about basic race information. When I arrived in San Francisco, there was more disappointment. The expo was a huge waste of time. There was nothing to buy (you could not get GU or gloves or anything). You had to go to Nike Town, which was a mob scene and did not have the basic running necessities.
The course is beautiful and the aid stations were well stocked, but the first half of the race was so crowded that I could not establish a comfortable pace. Runners were squeezed into one lane of the road, causing bumping and tripping and kicking. It was so frustrating! Runners were forced to purchase bus tickets back to Union Square, but the lines were so long that we had to walk and find a cab. The line was so long for the post-race photo that I decided to skip it.
Once I was home there was no information about how to find race results or event pictures. Maybe I would do this as a half marathon, but I will never run the full again. I must say that it is highly civilized because men were not peeing in bushes!
By: Sara H.
Posted: October 20, 2009
Annoyed with Nike
I think everything was great, minus the fact that the result tent said the server was down so we'd have to wait for our result. It's TUESDAY - the race was Sunday... and I can't find my results ANYWHERE!
And they should have had walkers to one side and runners on another. My start time was slow because I was busy dodging people.
By: Vera M.
Posted: October 20, 2009
High hopes, but lots to be disappointed about
The Nike Women's marathon was my 12th marathon, so I had a few to compare it to. Given that it was a Nike-sponsored event, I expected an A+ event but was consistently disappointed. Here is my summary:
Pros:
* Beautiful course.
* Nice "Go Girl" theme - very empowering for first-timers.
Cons:
* Horrible - I mean horrible - website. I do not understand after all the reviews last year that they did not change this.
* The start: I started in the 7:30-9 minute pace corral, and in front of us was a Nike team with walkers and walk/runners. It was very dangerous and it was impossible to get a good pace until Mile 4.5. They need to better organize those running slower to the back corrals.
* Charging you for everything: After over $100 entry fee, they charge you $10 for a bus back and $3 for your family to track you while you run!! It just seemed like they were trying to make money every chance possible.
* Brutal hills. I mean brutal. This isn't just a "hilly" run, so please be warned.
* TNT-focused supporters. I think it is great for all those Team in Training runners, and I am so impressed by their efforts!! But, the crowd was disappointing in the fact that they ONLY cheered for TNT. You would be climbing up a huge hill and they would ignore the other runners. I just wish they were more open to cheering for all.
* The bus at the end: After running a marathon, I had to wait over an hour to get on a bus (that I paid extra for) to get home. They need to reorganize this.
I think this marathon has potential, but I believe it is way overrated. This ranks below all 11 marathons I've run before because they need to fix some major elements before it can properly compete on the same level as other quality marathons. I really hope they take this feedback and make changes next year.
By: Rick K.
Posted: October 20, 2009
course is great, but the website sucks
The Nike course is great and the fans are awesome. The finish line was again a bottleneck. I could not even get across the finish line because there were so many people standing there who didn't belong there.
I still can't find any results on the website - really bad, crappy navigation on that website.
By: CAC 1.
Posted: October 20, 2009
Where are the half-marathon results?
"People love chopping wood. In this activity one immediately sees results." ~Albert Einstein.
Not so regarding the 2009 Nike Women's Half Marathon. A great event all the way around - I loved every second of it. Now if only I had official results, I'd rate this event five stars all around.
By: Julie P.
Posted: October 20, 2009
Pretty course, fun experience, very laid back
The Nike Women's Marathon is my seventh marathon, so I have a lot to compare it to. It is a fun, challenging (due to the inclines), laid back run, but not the least bit professional. If you are a true competitor and marathon runner looking for an organized race like NYC, Chicago, DC, you will probably be disappointed in this marketing, money-making/raising run.
The expo was HORRIBLE. Okay, I know I am supposed to "Run Like a Girl," but could you trade in the space for margaritas and Nike customized shoes to offer some important marathon essentials, such as gel packs and Body Glide? I traveled from Charleston, SC thinking I didn't need to buy Body Glide or gel before the race because I could find it at the expo. Not the case. There was NOTHING at the expo and NOTHING in our race bags. Come on - the entry fee is too high and Nike is making a TON of money off of apparel sales, especially when they force you to go into the Nike Store to get a t-shirt since they offered nothing at the expo (and you don't get an official t-shirt until you finish... so you will shop first I am sure). And the Nike Store didn't even have Body Glide and three sales people didn't know where I could find it in the city. You're putting on a marathon - Body Glide should be right up there with your Tiffany blue boxes!
And the actual race course was a bit of a joke too. Like others have said, the first few miles are almost impossible to run since there are so many walkers (they should start at a different time) and also when NIKE has placed actual posted signs that say, "PHOTO OP of Golden Gate Bridge/Presidio/etc." and people stop right in front of you to whip out their cameras and take pictures.... Crazy! And during the whole course there were random family members running on the race course with strollers, bikes, roller blades, etc. Get out of the way; let me get into my zone and run!
Again, this is a "fun" run and there were many women of all shapes and sizes enjoying and enduring it, which was great to see. It is the perfect run for someone just starting out, or someone who is not looking for the competitive side of a marathon race. I myself took my time and "Ran Like a Girl." But shouldn't we expect just a little more from ourselves and a race with a $100-plus entry fee?
P.S. Since this is a Women's Run, shouldn't the charities benefit women's organizations? Girls on the Run, My Sister's House, etc. - and not just TNT.
P.P.S. I still can't find my race time anywhere online. Get it together, Nike!
By: Jane D.
Posted: October 20, 2009
Beautiful Race - Horrible Organization
San Francisco is a beautiful city, no matter where the course takes you. Yes, it is hilly and it is hard, but the views are stunning and well worth the effort. The runners and volunteers were all positive, upbeat and happy. That is the good news.
The not so good news: Nike treats this event like a marketing feed-fest and not a running experience - and thus true runners, like me, are frustrated.
1. Starting line. ENOUGH of the VIPS, Run Club, TNT, walkers up front!!! Hello - what is the point of putting the slowest, least competitive walkers in front of 15,000 runners trying to hit a goal time? This is not a rock concert - preferred seating defeats the purpose of lining up in expected finish time order.
2.) Expo. Should be called, "chip and number pick-up." No other vendors/running expertise available means a one-sided, narrow marketing ploy.
3.) Finish-line shuttle buses: 20,000-plus runners and three times that number of spectators means you need more buses at the finish line. Expecting a runner to stand in line for over an hour for a $15 bus ride back to the start is shameless.
4.) Website. This has been an issue for years. NIKE - wake up and address the concerns posted in previous years.
5.) Mile markers. Miles 2-5 were off by .35 of a mile, causing havoc for those trying to keep a steady pace.
6.) Walkers. Can someone please educate walkers to walk single file, to the right or left, for their safety and the safety of others? I had repeatedly to dodge packs of walkers numbering two to six, strung out across the road, throughout the day. Sorry to point this out, but they were almost always TNT folks in purple singlets.
7.) Baggage Buses. REALLY - did it not occur to anyone to line the buses up in numerical order??? YES, I saw the chart in front of the buses and soon realized they were in random order, but it that really necessary? Seems you could line the buses up in numerical order and save the need for a chart. Also, my bus did not have an "M" window, even though my baggage sticker indicated that was the window I should seek out to get my bag.
8.) Volunteers. While the volunteers (mostly teenagers in some areas) were kind and respectful, they were completely clueless. They were clearly not runners, had not been properly trained, did not know basic running info - such as what a pace team is or how to activate your timing chip. I watched as a group was "put to work" at their expo shift and immediately felt sorry for them. Clearly NIKE viewed them as human cargo/bodies to fill a role but did not take the time to empower them with the data/facts/information they needed to be successful. They were simply thrown a gray t-shirt and stationed at a spot.
If Nike can re-focus this event to support runners and not their bottom line, it could be a great experience.
By: Ilene G.
Posted: October 20, 2009
Good from gun to end; before/after, not so much
Nice idea (Tiffany necklace, Ghirardelli Station) and beautiful, interesting course. But if a race is seeking to attract that many walkers and charity runners who train to run/walk - preach etiquette or do a separate, later start. The first half was narrow, and walkers sometimes stretched six across at the 9:30 pace. Charity runners abruptly stopped en masse in the middle of the street. Expo volunteers ranged from polite but clueless to rude, though course volunteers were great. Nowhere to purchase marathon staples like Glide or gels. I get not offering competing products if you are sponsoring the race, but Nike doesn't make everything. Come prepared, especially if traveling! The website was awful, as were buses. Results were nearly impossible to find. Spectators seemed like family/friends only; there's not much interest from the rest of the city for an event this size.
By: Enrique T.
Posted: October 20, 2009
Great race. Worst website ever.
Great race, but like so many others, I'm trying to find results....
By: Sarah R.
Posted: October 20, 2009
beautifully branded and executed event -'cept web!
This was my first experience running in a marathon event, and I ran the half. I think the course is awesome, but would have loved the opportunity to run over the Golden Gate Bridge or past the gardens in Golden Gate Park. The event is so perfectly branded to empower women and I loved all of the inspirational messages from Nike and the sponsors along the course. Fuel and drinks were plentiful, and the stations properly manned with the right number of people and supplies. Didn't have any problems with transportation but I was a TNT participant, so it's pretty much set and flawless for us. Loved themed stations at the expo and the finisher's area (manicure, massages, stretching tent, etc.). Website is NOT user friendly or intuitive - still looking for the race results. If you know how to find them, please email me! Other than the website, this is a very well thought-out and coordinated event. Congrats to Nike and TNT; I'm looking forward to next year!
By: Mel M.
Posted: October 20, 2009
Nike Women's Marathon
I love this race. It's an amazing event like none other. The people and the cause are wonderful too.
The website is the worst ever! You would think that they would spend some of the millions of dollars they make on a website that made sense. It's impossible to find the information you're looking for without having to toggle forward or back a hundred times.
The course is very hilly, but you do get some great views of the bay/ocean/SF. The great highway surface sucks, so make sure you wear good shoes and watch where you're going. The necklace is always a treat, along with the firemen handing them out. Overall, I would totally recommend this marathon and half-marathon to anyone. There are spectators everywhere and you never feel bored. I hope to get in next year.
By: Stefanie H.
Posted: October 20, 2009
An amazing race!
The organization was great, but the website not so much (nor the bus organization). But for me it was about the running. The hills kicked my butt. I got leg cramps in the second half of the race, but I still shaved off 15 minutes off of the time from my first marathon in Cape Cod last year. The aid stations were great. The expo was too, though I wish there would have been more information, like where the sticker number was supposed to go. I just wore the bib and the timing tag and it was fine. The finisher's shirt is beautiful and so is the necklace. All in all, it was an amazing experience and I would do it again. :)
By: Pam K.
Posted: October 20, 2009
Great race; CRAPPY website
I just wanted to reiterate the other comments. This was a great race, but the website sucks. I did the half and cannot find the official results ANYWHERE!!!
By: Hilary C.
Posted: October 20, 2009
Worthwhile but frustrating
I ran the full marathon on October 18th. It was my sixth marathon, so I have an idea or two on how a marathon should be organized. This one fell short. The website is ridiculously difficult to navigate. It is now two days after the race and the results have yet to be posted. The expo was a disappointment. There wasn't a single booth at which to buy items we may have forgotten at home. Even the Luna Bar booth had no idea where I could buy the Luna smoothie for after the race. Most of the food items had milk or yogurt, so weren't edible for those of us who are lactose intolerant.
On race day, there was such a crowd of people that we were absolutely unable to move on Powell. I barely slid into my corral on time. Note to organizers: Place the port-a-johns and bag checks on Geary and have every runners line up on Post, instead of wrapping around Union Square. I found the start maddening. Not to mention all of the first-time marathoners with very poor race etiquette. Note to future runners: Don't run in packs! Runners are struggling to get around you. The course was well-marked and enjoyable. The hills were very tough, but the view was gorgeous. The finish was everything it should be and I love the necklace. The buses to return to Union Square were fairly easy to find. Although the volunteers could provide very little assistance and may need a briefing next year.
Despite everything, I am glad I ran this marathon. It is a one-time treat for lady runners. Just bring an extra dose of patience with you, ladies!
By: Kitty K.
Posted: October 20, 2009
Beautiful
Beautiful course, but I have to agree with another person's comment: "Why can't walkers be more considerate?" It was frustrating trying to dodge walkers for the first few miles. I am not a fast runner, but my nine-minute miles were slowed tremendously because of that. Otherwise, wonderful people, great cheering, and good organization. The system was down at the Nike tent, so I couldn't check my time, and still can't do it. There was a long line for the massage, so I didn't try. Great volunteers. Thanks, Nike!
By: Jenny S.
Posted: October 20, 2009
Nike Website
NIKE need do better on their website. It's very difficult to find information and updates, and I guess the only way is to read the blogs. Great race, but very challenging and hilly.
By: jane s.
Posted: October 20, 2009
over-hyped and commercial
I felt like they were selling something to me on every single corner. It was super crowded with way too many runners. I've run the course before, and my time was over an hour slower due to the congestion. The race organizers were very business-oriented rather than supportive.
By: Suellen L.
Posted: October 19, 2009
Corrals, Please!
I love this race. I've done all but the second year. Nike does a good job but... can the walkers start earlier or can you corral the runners by their pace??? Nothing irks me more than having to zig-zag around five-across walkers for five miles!!!
And the website... ugh! Can we just simplify? Too much fluff. I'd like to go and get questions answered... period. Where are the results? Where do I find the photos?
I'll do it again next year. But I hope that Nike reads this.
By: AL b.
Posted: October 19, 2009
Enjoy the pain!
This run was HARD but great! it was truly an experience in challenging way; however, the perks of Niketown (shopping), the start atmosphere, the aid stations, the crowd, and the momentum of so many women in all sizes, colors and ages was wonderful. And when you come into the finish, there are the firemen in tuxedos giving the Tiffany necklace (not a medal). This marathon made you enjoy being in pain - like having a baby!
By: Joanne E.
Posted: October 19, 2009
Love the course/support. Crowded finish.
This is my first half marathon, through TNT. I loved the course, support and fans along the way. As I sprinted to the finish and crossed the line, I met a wall of people. The finisher's area was tight, and it was difficult to move through all of the people. While the finish village and line movement could have been better organized, it was a worthwhile, fun endeavor, and I would definitely run again.
By: Kathi E.
Posted: October 19, 2009
Great race
I've run the Nike Marathon every year since its inception in 2004. The race is not an athletic race by any means, with many first-timers and very slow finishes, but it is local for me and I love the course through San Francisco. The Tiffany necklace is a nice touch and the race t-shirts are always good.
Overall, the race organization is good - particularly helpful is the bag check organization this year, which is so much easier than in previous years.
The website is terrible; it's hard to find anything. As was the case last year, race results (including splits) are still not available more than 24 hours later, which is quite unbelievable, given the time chip tracking. Other races like Boston have athlete tracking real-time, so it should be possible to get the race results earlier.
By: Patricia B.
Posted: October 19, 2009
Tough but scenic course
As a local who has done several major SF races, I finally had to do this one.
Like others, I hated the Nike website, which made it very difficult to locate basic info regarding race logistics. I'm not a big user of Nike products either, so I found their product plugs to be annoying.
This is a challenging but beautiful course, held at a great time of year weather-wise for SF. Maybe I'm the only one, but I was never happier to see Lake Merced, for I knew that once we'd completed our lap around it we were headed for the finish.
The early miles are crowded, and I agree with others that walkers should start with their pace groups, although given the course time limits (and delays of up to 30 minutes to cross the start line), I sort of understand why some of them start with the wrong groups to get across the line faster.
If you are not a TNT participant, be prepared to be largely ignored by their coaches and cheer groups. In 26.2 miles, I had exactly one of their coaches acknowledge me with a high-five. The official race volunteers and cheer groups, however, who are mostly teens, are great.
By: cecilia r.
Posted: October 19, 2009
EMPOWERING TO ALL WOMEN
The accomplishment of running my first marathon is beyond words. It started as a personal goal, but when I saw pictures of actual victims who have died from this disease, it changed my perspective. My body aches but it was worth the cause. I just wished there were fewer of the hills. I would do it again.
By: Larry M.
Posted: October 19, 2009
I love this marathon!
This was my fourth Nike Marathon, and a total of 20 marathons with Team In Training. I ran the first Nike, and this race course is a 1000% improvement. The current Nike is superb in all respects of a marathon course: scenery, challenging elevation, aid support, crowd support, traffic control. Great planning to get the hills behind you in the first half. And I think Lake Merced is cool. It's flat, usually foggy, and I can see the lake. SF, don't change a thing. Runners from out of state are treated to a feast of scenic beauty. This marathon is a jewel!!!!!!! GO TEAM!
By: NYC Runner
Posted: October 19, 2009
Beautiful, challenging half-marathon
What a beautiful course! Nike gets 5 stars for every aspect of the half-marathon (EXCEPT THEIR WEBSITE, WHICH IS A NOTORIOUS DISASTER). The course was beautiful, and well-designed with challenging hills but great downhill stretches as well. The only negative aspect of the course is that the first mile or so is very crowded, but that's typical of city races.
By: Rachel W.
Posted: October 18, 2009
Race is great; website sucks
The race is great but I'm still trying to find the official results online. The website is impossible to navigate.
By: Vicki Keever
Posted: October 18, 2009
the hills were killer...
Since I walked and jogged a half-marathon a week ago in "Healdsburg Wine Country Marathon," I had a good comparison. This was much more difficult with the S. F. hills rather than the rolling hills of the wine country. This was a good challenge for me, but I think I did it in the same amount time. I can't find my time on the site so I guess I will know later how I did. I would do it again. It was fun to meet up with my friends, Kim Pace from Reno and Kim Tolotti from Oregon.
By: no purple j.
Posted: October 18, 2009
interesting running it the second time
I ran this marathon several years back and had a great experience. But this time I noticed a lot of flaws with the entire event. First, for the non-purple jersey runners there was almost no support. Even at the finish line, only the purple runners' names were recognized, but for the non-Team in Training runners there was absolutely no support. After crossing the finish line, the two groups were separated. The purple people were treated to sandwiches, and for the non, we got crappy bagels and chocolate milk (even though 80% of the population is lactose intolerant). Nike should just change the event name to the Nike Team-in-Training Women's Marathon, because in no way shape or form did they support the rest of the SF running population. By the way, the non-purple people paid our entry fee to run the event. I will never run this marathon again and will do my best to avoid supporting Nike and Michael Vick.
By: Beth S.
Posted: October 18, 2009
Beautiful scenery! Great support staff.
The course was great and the drink stations were done well. I loved all of the stuff after the finish line too. Well done! The bus situation was HORRIBLE. I didn't know where to go, and the line was very long to stand in after a race. The website was equally horrible. Nothing is easy to find, including the course map and the results. The info is not well laid out at all. I had to search.
By: Michelle S.
Posted: June 07, 2009
"Run Like a Girl"
I would give the course five stars except for the part around Lake Merced; see some of the previous comments about that. The organization was excellent, but with a few flaws. If I could have rated it 4.8 or 4.9, I would have.
Although this was my first marathon, I ran the half marathon on this course the year before, and would rate the half-marathon portion of the course five stars.
By: Allison F.
Posted: April 06, 2009
Interesting Experience
I would call my experience with marathon "bittersweet." I loved the city, loved the whole "run like a girl" theme, and thought that the event was cool. After running my second marathon elsewhere, I have something to compare it to and would say the following negatives:
1. I started with the 10-11-minute-per-mile pace group... among many others. However, from the starting line, there were people walking it - from the 10-11-minute-per-mile pace group!!!! I am totally on board with the whole walker thing, but why can't they start them at a separate time? Can't they have an actual walking "group?" Why were the walkers not considerate enough to start with the later pace groups? It was frustrating, and I spent much of the run dodging them.
2. The entire marathon was beautiful until you run around Lake Merced. You don't even SEE the lake - it is a highway and you barely have one lane closed off. Until you get back on the section by the ocean, this is ugly and depressing, and it was where I hit my wall.
Besides those two factors, I did love the rest of the race. What a cool way to see such a cool city... and the medal and t-shirt are so cute! The people are pretty nice and there are lots of stops with water and amenities. I would not do this marathon again, but I would recommend trying it at least once.
By: Irene B.
Posted: February 27, 2009
Overall a fantastic experience
The allure of the spectacular scenery, the Tiffany necklace medal and the fact that it supports the Leukemia & Lymphoma Society convinced me to fly 5,000 miles to take part in this marathon - and it didn't disappoint! Overall, I found the organization to be excellent. I admit the fact that you couldn't purchase any of the branded merchandise at the expo itself was a little annoying but then again Niketown was right beside it. The course itself was challenging and boy did those hills in the first half really sock the energy out of me. However, the support around the course was amazing and the camaraderie of my fellow participants really pulled me through. The aid stations were great - Vaseline, tissue, Band-Aids, etc. Water and Gatorade were on hand at regular intervals. I was physically and mentally drained by the time I reached the finish line, but the fire fighters in tuxedos brandishing Tiffany necklaces brought a welcome smile to my face! There were plenty of bagels, recovery drinks and smoothies for the weary runners! Although there long lines for the buses back to the city post-marathon, given the number participating this is hardly surprising. This probably isn't the marathon for those trying to qualify for Boston, but I would highly recommend it otherwise. It was an amazing experience for my first marathon!
By: Jenny L.
Posted: February 23, 2009
Poor website
This is a great race! My memory of it is marred by the disorganization of the "official" website.
By: Delores W.
Posted: February 19, 2009
Awesome first-time marathon!
This was my very first marathon. I did the half-marathon and it was an awesome first-time experience. I hope to do it every year for as long as I can. Since I turned 62 a couple of weeks after the 2008 race, my racing days are numbered.
Having never run a marathon before, I have no comparison regarding organization; however, considering that there were 20,000 participants, it seemed well organized to me. Although it was frustrating to stand in line, it was not unexpected because of the number of participants. There seemed to be sufficient numbers of people helping with all aspects of the race.
I was amazed at the number of restroom facilities along the race course. Great job! I was also pleasantly surprised with the number of water/aid/food stations along the course as well as the amount of post-race food and liquids.
The course is incredibly scenic and the weather while not perfect was good for running; however, it was a little cool for standing in line for the buses back to Union Square.
I wasn't a part of TNT, so as I got farther along in the race, I did begin to feel a little lonely, since I wasn't wearing purple. There seemed to be plenty of people cheering for the TNT runners, but they also cheered for everyone else. I had a particularly gratifying experience during the race. I had pinned my number to the back of my shirt. Somewhere around mile 5 or 6, a couple of women told me I should move my number to the front of my shirt so that when photographs were taken it would be easier to identify me. They stopped long enough to help me move my number to the front of my shirt. Thank you, ladies!
The only real negative had to do with the spectator pass/bus. My husband had problems getting to the cheering stations along the course. His bus left the start area so that they skipped the first cheering station and went directly to the second. At about mile 12 I called him from my cell phone to see where he was during the race; he was somewhere around mile 10 or 11 waiting to see me. He did manage to get to the finish area before I did, so he got to see me cross the finish line.
I did have a few problems with the website not being exactly user-friendly last year; however, this year I haven't been able to find out ANY information on the 2009 marathon, so it seems to be even worse.
This race was a great first experience and I hope to return in future years. I have recommended this race to anyone who will listen.
By: Angela P.
Posted: February 10, 2009
Awesome!
I have run this half-marathon for four years in a row. I absolutely love it, and will do it every year I can (crossing my fingers that I get in this year). Personally, I think the lottery system is a good thing. In 2007 the half sold out ridiculously fast (a few hours, I believe). I luckily got in through an event at a local running store, but otherwise wouldn't have been able to run. At least with the lottery, everyone who wants the opportunity has a chance. In '07 it felt like I was trying to get the hottest concert ticket in town.
Organization: I am completely astonished at how many people think that the race organization is poor, since it is the best organized race I have ever run. The organizers have a large number of runners to work with, so yes, there will be lines. But you don't have to wait in them! If you want a manicure, wait (I waited about 30 minutes... not bad, considering). If you don't, skip it.
Packet pickup was a breeze. It took all of about five minutes, and I went midday on Saturday.
If race expos are your thing, I would suggest attending some expos in your home town. But seriously, who runs a race for the expo? If you need GU, go to the drug store right across the street from the expo. If you want some gear, wait until after the race on Sunday to shop, or order online (for a discount) about a week later. I love the gear Nike makes for this race, and every year I get stuff (and wear it a LOT).
Post race: Hello, firemen! Mine was particularly nice to look at... I just wish I got a pic. :) The necklace was very cool, the corrals for t-shirts and food work amazingly well, and Nike gives you more post-race food than I've gotten after any other race. Getting your bag is simple, as well. People were complaining about lines for massages.... THEY'RE FREE, PEOPLE! Of course there will be lines! Do you really expect Nike to get personal massage therapists for everyone? Most races don't even have post-race massages, so I think it's great.
The race: Hilly? Yes, but it is San Francisco. It's definitely not as hilly as Big Sur. I don't think the hills are that bad, personally. It's a gorgeous course, with tons of aid stations and a variety of fruit and gels, etc. The weather has been PERFECT every year.
The only negative is the crowded course, which will be everyone's complaint. You'll be weaving the entire race, so if that bothers you, don't run it. (If they restrict the participants even more, that means you'll have more people complaining next year about how they didn't get in, so you can't really win. It's for a good cause!)
Also, I didn't do TNT, so it does start to feel a bit lonely if you're not wearing purple, but there are plenty of people cheering along the course for everyone.
And yes, the website sucked. They changed it for last year's race, and I think they've gotten a fairly negative response on it. Here's to hoping they change it back.
But that's it for the negatives. I realize that people will find something to complain about in every situation, but for me, this race is a great experience every year. That's why I keep going back.
By: Jim Osterman
Posted: February 04, 2009
Well Done!
This was my third marathon, but my first since 2003. I did it with TNT, which made the experience extra special. From getting my number to crossing the finish line I had no problems. Be ready for anything, as the day before the race was hot, the day after was perfect, but race-day was overcast, windy and cold as one would expect from S.F. The only negative was that the Nike Store served as the "expo" and had music blaring. But that has nothing to do with the fact that it was a great experience, and I'm coming back in '09 for the half.
By: Danielle c.
Posted: February 04, 2009
Nike Women's Marathon is tough but great!
I have done this race 3 times. The first time was with Team in Training, and the second two were on my own. I was very disappointed that they closed it off to Team and Training only, except by raffle. It's a great marathon. Its almost exclusively women and it does support a great cause, but it would be nice if they had more slots available for non-TNT participants.
By: Alina T.
Posted: January 29, 2009
Not enough support for non-TNT runners
This was my first race ever and I was really excited! The course was beautiful except the loop beginning at Mile 18. It was mentally difficult to see others running toward that finish when I had 8.2 miles to go. There were very challenging hills at the beginning but they were manageable if you did hills during training. I thought that the organization was good. I didn't have any issues with getting my packet, t-shirt or necklace, but I didn't get a chance to get any freebies because the lines were so long. I wish that there was better support for non TNT runners like myself. Getting support along the race is so helpful. In fact, I didn't feel that the course was spectator-friendly. I would love to do this race again but I hope that Nike will take people's complaints into consideration.
By: Dyane S.
Posted: January 23, 2009
Great Course - Entry, Expo, Nike Town need work
I've run this course for the past 4 years, but I've noticed that over the last 2 years, the expo, Nike Town and the finish line have become less and less attractive while the prices continue to rise.
It's a shame that they went to the lottery method as a way of entry, forcing people to sign up and raise money to enter. I saw untrained persons throughout, which was a first along the course. People with baby strollers were jumping on the course, running with their friends/family.
That's not to mention how they ran out of aid at the aid stations. I hope the San Francisco Running Club rethinks using the lottery for 2009. With this economy, people will not be able to join a charity and raise money in addition to paying for the travel cost.
By: Liza W.
Posted: January 18, 2009
Great City, Great Medal, Not-So-Great Organization
Maybe I am a little spoiled by the Houston Marathon, which consistently has great spectators and organization. Maybe the weather is a little off some years, but hey, that's Houston.
This was my first full marathon outside of Houston, and I was lured by the medal and praise by Runner's World. Generally, the medal and post-race goodies were great (smoothies, food, Mylar blankets for all), but the organization was terrible.
Pros:
Weather was AWESOME!
Medal was worth the adventure.
Nice to be able to walk from hotel to start line.
Fantastic course, even though the first half was VERY hilly. The second half was relatively flat though.
Great aid stations with fun themes (i.e. Pedicare, chocolate stop).
Cons:
Expo was held in Union Square, which was cramped and unorganized. What were we supposed to do there?
Race results were not available for 2-4 days after the race, and the website is EXTREMELY confusing. I was disappointed in the way Nike handled this marathon.
Although the shuttles came frequently for runners at the finish line, 20K people trying to get on equals a LONG wait.
NOT spectator-friendly. At the expo, family and friends can buy shuttle tickets to be chauffeured to only a couple of spots along the race. And if you miss those buses, you get left behind. The layout of SF is not conducive to spectating.
Out and backs are tough, especially when they start at mile 18....
I PRed during this marathon, which I was surprised by; but yea!
It's worth it once for the medal, but I probably won't be doing this one again until the organization is better.
By: Katie F.
Posted: December 29, 2008
Overall, a Great Race
The course was beautiful and the hills were much more manageable than I was expecting. I even PRed. You get to see a lot of the city's main attractions during the race so AVOID the urge to go sightseeing the day before. In a public transit city, you'll end up spending a lot more time on your feet than you'll want to the day before a race.
It was a huge event, which brings the benefits of sponsor perks, large crowds, and that "running community" we all know and love, including the Team, who were very supportive even though I don't wear purple. The food on course was good, necklace medals were a fun touch, and I'm in love with all of the firefighters at the finish. But an event with 20,000 runners also brings long lines, a slow start, and a logistical issues at the finish line.
My family members who came to cheer, and bought spectator's bus passes, were disappointed that the race-sponsored bus got lost (!) so they were not able to see me at all during the race, but we were able to meet up at the finish.
Although they were great to talk to, the pace team I ran with was off its mark by mile 10 and I had to run ahead to get my time. Make sure to wear a watch!
Despite a few pitfalls, it was a great race that I would recommend if you're into big events. Nike always puts on a great show.
By: Deb S.
Posted: December 04, 2008
great first-time marathon
This was my first marathon and I read a lot of the comments about last year's NWM in preparation. The package pick up was easy and quick. (I was there the day before the race.) I didn't waste time lining up for free stuff; the lines were huge and not worth the time on my feet. The race corral areas seemed huge but I found mine easily and slipped in without a problem. The race itself was fantastic. I did hill training, so while the hills were challenging, I was prepared. The TNT people are out in force, but I had my name on my shirt and they cheered for me too. The spectators were awesome along most of the course. I was annoyed to be lining up along with spectators for the potties, but the lady ahead of me kindly let me go first after waiting for over 10 minutes. The narrow path around part of the lake was tough; being blocked by walkers was frustrating. I loved this race and ran for charity also - it just wasn't TNT's charity, and that seemed to confuse a lot of people. Most thought you had to run for the Lymphoma Society. I would love to run it again and would definitely tell a friend to do it; just make sure that you are prepared. I also knew about the time cut-off at the 30K mark, but it didn't affect me. However, I read it on the blog from last year's race, and when I asked at the package pick up, I was informed that the only time constraint was the 7-hour deadline to finish.
By: Mary Cole
Posted: November 01, 2008
Gorgeous course, great marathon
I have run almost 20 marathons in the last eight years, and I'm a "back of the packer." I'd rate this course second in beauty only after Big Sur, and I've run Napa Valley and Whidbey Island; neither compared with this. The hills were definitely manageable, and the last part of the race was downhill. I loved it: The views, the handsome firemen at the finish, my finisher's medal/necklace. Kudos to TNT, but if you're not one of them (I wasn't), they tend to ignore you. That's a little disconcerting, especially as you near the finish line. But I would definitely recommend this race and I will do it again next year if I get in.
By: Diana M.
Posted: October 28, 2008
Why are men running when women can't get in???
My first comment is about the number of men in the race. Get a life. The race should first accommodate the women who want to enter then open it to men if necessary. Too many women are turned away. If you are going to continue to randomly enter men then provide a different medal for them. Give the standard marathon medal with large ribbon suitable for hanging on a large hook at home. One of the men I spoke with ran to get the medal for his wife who is not a runner and did not even get out of bed that morning to cheer anyone on. As we were standing in line for a massage, he said that she was probably out shopping. Really.
I read previous reports about the race and I was prepared for the overwhelming number of TNT and first-time participants. There is a lack of road etiquette, especially the runners from the local area. Several TNT runners with "SF" on their singlets were joined by groups of people running them in from mile 21 on. This is a narrow part of the course that is shared with traffic and to have to run around 5 people, only 1 actually entered in the race, is not favorable at that point in the race.
The race weekend was fabulous. Everywhere I went, people were talking about the marathon. So many first-timers really kept the energy level high. I ran the race with my daughter and it was a great experience. We shouldn't have to stand in line for 45 minutes, the day before the marathon, to get a manicure. Maybe they could pass out time cards when things get too backed up. I ended up skipping these stations and the free iPod engraving. Lines were long right from the opening. The friendliness of the runners and the efficiency of the finish area raised the rating. While the run along the ocean at the end was hard, the view was worth every bit of it.
By: Kathi E.
Posted: October 26, 2008
Great course, but lacks organization
I've run this race every year since its inception in 2004 (full marathon). I love the course and the Tiffany necklace. However, the organization left a lot to be desired. The classification of elite/non-elite was a joke - I happened to run in the elite, although I am not a pro by any means. Anybody who runs around three hours for a marathon could never count as elite. I am glad they'll change this for next year.
Having no race results available for two days after the race, despite all the mats we crossed, is appalling. Online athlete tracking has been common practice for large marathons for years, and Nike should get on it.
If you are not running with TNT, you are sometimes out of luck for cheers. I ran close to a guy who was with TNT and finished around my time, and I had many TNT coaches pass me without giving me a second glance, all while cheering him on wildly (in the women's marathon - I am a woman).
By: Amy L.
Posted: October 24, 2008
Every woman should do this fantastic race!!
What a wonderful experience for my first full marathon! I ran the half in this same race last year, and things were even better this year. The course had been slightly modified from last year, which took out several spots that were "bottle-necked" last year. This added a few more hills, none of which were too bad. The scenery was again spectacular, and the course was well-staffed by volunteers who did a fabulous job of passing out water, Gatorade, snacks, etc. Plenty of port-o-lets, support, fans, etc. The race amenities were awesome; it's nice to get such girly things!! Great race overall. Hats off to the organizers ~ I'm looking forward to 2009!!
By: Julie C.
Posted: October 23, 2008
an unforgettable experience
The NWM is full of challenges. The hill beginning at mile six was, I thought, going to be the toughest part of the race, so once it was behind me, I thought I was ready to just enjoy the run. Whoops! The steady incline thereafter proved to be more difficult than the hills from six to eight. And, although the view of the Pacific was wonderful, running out and back along the coast was difficult. The pavement was very rough and hard on already aching feet. All that aside, however, the race itself was amazing! My third event with Team In Training, and by far the most rewarding. The expotique is not all it's cracked up to be, but the finisher's necklace is awesome!!! I ran a marathon personal best in this race and, if San Francisco weren't so far from home, I would love to run this race again someday.
By: BethAnn P.
Posted: October 22, 2008
Necklace is beautiful; got tarnished along the way
Imagine my shock when I was 0.25 miles from the 30K mark to be told that you need to reach the mat by 12:00 p.m. I did not see this IMPORTANT piece of information anywhere on your website or e-mails. I brought 20 women 3/4 of the way across the country to run this race. All of them made incredible sacrifices personally and financially to get to S.F. only to be turned away at the 30K mat? That is exactly what happened one of our group. She reached the 30K mat 4 minutes after 12:00 p.m. and was turned around, even though it took her 20 minutes to reach the start mat. Are you kidding me?! Was this insider knowledge, because it seemed that all the TNT coaches were well aware of the cut-off. Again, I have searched all of my information on the race several times over and cannot find it anywhere that there is a cut-off mat. The funny thing is that she had to walk 3 miles back to the finish, putting her at almost 22 miles when I saw her with over an hour left in the 7-hour time limit.
This is unconscionable. There should have been volunteers reminding people of this on the course, and at the very least, runners should have been told about this at packet pick-up.
In addition, I registered and paid for a medium finisher's shirt; imagine again my surprise when I got to the finisher's area and there were only larges and extra-larges on the table. (Only to realize when I got back to my hotel, that my finisher's shirt was for the half-marathon.) I am not the only one in our group who this happened to.
My final comment would be in regards to the expo. I absolutely loved the Thursday night expo party. I had no idea that it would be the extent of the expo for the entire weekend. You cannot be serious. You do not bring 30,000 runners to an event and not have a way for them to pick up last-minute items. Many of us traveled via air to get to S.F. Some even inadvertently forgot racing essentials and thought that they would probably be able to pick them up at the expo. Again, imagine my surprise when there wasn't one running item to be found. You even had to go to NIKETOWN or Lady Foot Locker for race apparel. No Body Glide, gloves, fuel belt or gels. Do not do that to runners in the future. The necklace is beautiful, but got tarnished along the way.
By: Jenny M.
Posted: October 21, 2008
Oh what an event!
This was my 5th event, and first time at NWM-SF. The course, views, spectators, and positive energy were all fantastic! Pre- and post-event navigation of the Nike website was frustrating. There should be a website devoted to the marathon. The Nike site is truly lacking... where are the results?! Even though I did this for the charity and for fun, I'd like to see how I did. Speaking of beneficiaries, it's great that Nike is such a big sponsor, but the reason that the event got lost is their self-promotion. Seems only the event name gave the reason. Hardly any merchandise, blogs, etc. had the Leukemia Lymphoma Society info associated with it. Well, at least the society is benefiting from it! I'll certainly be back in the future! It was a lot of fun! GO TEAM!!
By: cathy m.
Posted: October 21, 2008
Beautiful course! Liked the race a lot!
This was my 5th, though I've done a lot of the bigger half's, too. Overall, I'd really give it a 4.5 for everything.
This is a race for more casual runners, not hardcore ones (unless you are fast enough to get in first part of the pack). Tons of weaving needed here.
The really good things:
San Francisco is a great town to visit. The "expotique" was fun - I even got to meet Joanie briefly. It was crowded though. Good swag-totes, chocolates, a Tiffany necklace, etc. The course was very beautiful! Much nicer than I expected in a city.Loved coming down the hill to the beach/cliff house area. Lots of water stops, volunteers, etc.
Plenty of Luni Moons (good) and bars, plus oranges and bananas. I can't eat and run, but the oranges were nice. Amazingly, the course wasn't littered with them either as most are. Also, I liked having the firemen in tuxes give out the necklaces.
Things needing improvement:
The start was a mess. The start groups were too large and signage was poor, even for those of us trying to find right corrals. Never saw pace groups. A few marked balloons would help a lot! It is hilly, though thankfully, that's in the early miles. Not enough porta-potties in the earlier miles, but they had tons halfway in. Too crowded at end, without enough buses. I was really glad I'd done it with TNT.
By: Maureen M.
Posted: October 21, 2008
Beautiful!
This was my first time in San Francisco and my first Nike race. The expo was nice; I was a little disappointed that you could not buy the Nike clothes at the expo, but I can see that they wanted you to spend your money in the store. The race itself was very well run and the views were awesome! Just when you got tired and thought "another mile," you turned a corner and saw a view that made you say, "Wow." The surfers cutting across the great highway made me laugh, the spectators were wonderful, and the volunteers were the best. Priceless. If you are a runner who gets frustrated weaving around walkers, this isn't the race for you, but TNT does a good job and is a worthy cause. The only downside was navigating the website and the spectator bus was a waste of money; there needs to be a better system for that. Also, most big races now have tracking. I think Nike can afford this.
By: ann p.
Posted: October 21, 2008
Mixed Emotions
Wow, great course. Nike, your store is crammed to the gills, but it might've been nice for you to offer 10 or 15% off of your merchandise for race participants through Monday - especially since you obviously couldn't provide the promised perks to the entire field. Race organizers, you knew how many people were participating and should not have run out of stuff or had people packed up at the end. And the support along the second half of the course. What? Packing up early? Motor coaches for some, school buses for others? The lack of results and the inaccuracies - what is that about? And the misinformation given to people who inquired ahead of the race - unforgivable. TNT, everyone deserves support who is out there, not just those in purple shirts. I technically had a great day, but these things were a disappointment and there is no reason why this couldn't have been an optimal experience if things were handled a little more professionally.
By: Sylvia B.
Posted: October 21, 2008
Brutal marathon! Super hilly!
Nike was my 12th marathon. Boston and Adirondack were cakewalks compared to San Fran! I live in ATL and trained on the hills, but I caution you: really consider training on steep hills and punishing downhills to endure this race! I did this one with Team in Training; I loved the cause and I am proud that I raised the money; however, I won't do another TNT event. The logistics are awful. From boarding the first flight out, to waiting for the bus to the hotel, etc., etc. The lines were LONG, the wait FOREVER, and it seeped the good vibes right out of me!
Marathon course: Difficult, hilly, and logistically challenging to have family drop-off and pick up without it being a nightmare.
Medal: The necklace is nice.
Tee: Finisher fee very nice as well.
Expo: Laughable! 100% of the race merchandise had to be bought at the Nike store. What a rip-off!
Would I recommend it to a friend? No. There are other, equally challenging courses that are more runner-friendly, making Nike's race just not worth it.
By: Sonya S.
Posted: October 21, 2008
Too many walkers improperly corralled
This was my first Nike race, and as races go, it was OK. Just OK; not great, but not bad.
The comment from 2007 about the novice runners was on-point. That was my biggest frustration about the race. Too many walkers who did not walk to the side and the course was too narrow so you couldn't pass them.
I knew I would be running 12:00-12:30 pace, so I put myself at the front of the 12:00-15:00 minute/mile pace group. The problem was that too many slower walkers positioned themselves too high in the race corral because I passed too many people along the way. One woman I passed at mile 4 was wearing flip-flops! Another was carrying her baby on her back, and one man I passed at mile 12 was pushing a stroller! Come on now; even though we're not going to win, it's still a race!
I also witnessed several women hogging the photographers at photo opportunities.
Having a wider course (use the entire street), water stations on both sides of the roads, and more runner education (especially considering how many TNT people there are) would make this race a lot less frustrating and more fun for everyone.
By: Kathryn K.
Posted: October 21, 2008
Wouldn't recommend it
While I commend the Team in Training race this is, and am in awe of the amount of money this race raises, if I were not a part of Team in Training, I wouldn't do it. Nike's website is poor, the race expo is pathetic, the support services at the end are not geared towards those finishing the marathon quickly and needing extra support, the shuttles for spectators and runners are horrible (do not waste your money on this - the Fulton bus will take you back to Market street), and the Tiffany necklace is nice, but not worth the hassle of dealing with this marathon. Spend your $100 fee on your own Tiffany necklace.
So while I wouldn't recommend this race, if you are considering a Team in Training race, this would probably be it. Majority of participants are Team in Training. The course is challenging, with many hills (although it's quite spectacular). Water stops along the way were plentiful and nicely stationed. Spectators were great. I gave the course 3 stars for the scenery, the organization 2 stars (would have given it one but they did have nicely placed water stations), and the spectators were a 5. All that said, this was a PR race for me and qualified me for Boston for a 2nd time, so I am happy with the end results. But I would not do this race again.
By: Barbara Q.
Posted: October 21, 2008
Beautiful course!
Where are the results???? No online tracking???? Nothing in the paper? I am disappointed that it is now day two after the marathon and there are no results available!
By: Karen K.
Posted: October 20, 2008
No PR, but a lot of fun
My experience this year was by far the best. I didn't get stuck behind a clump of walkers, the weather was perfect and I didn't have any trouble finding my checked bag at the finish line. This is a great race. The energy is amazing. The runners are encouraging and friendly. For the record, TNT only got 1/4 of the total slots, so there were plenty of chances for everyone else. The TNT cheering squads are the best. Tons of other cheering friends on the sidelines too. Never enough potties, especially at the start. The shirt is super-cute, though no longer Dri-Fit, which is a bummer. I'll definitely run this one again. If you don't like a crowded race, don't pick one that takes 20,000 entries!!
By: Tom S.
Posted: October 20, 2008
Website - Results... WHERE ARE THEY?
Most confusing website EVER! It's impossible to find results, and there's no support available.
By: Kathi E.
Posted: October 20, 2008
Shockingly disorganized, but great course
I have run this race every year since its inception in 2004. The race gets larger and larger and the organizers can't keep up. There are no results to be found anywhere more than 24 hours after the race. No online athlete tracking, although there are timing mats at every 5K mark. I love running the race - the course is wonderful, the weather is great, and there are lots of volunteers. It is not an athletic race by any standard - I qualified as an elite with a 3:24 PR as a 37-year-old woman. Nike should spend less on gear and more on getting some organization into their website. There is also no way to look up a bib number of any participant.
By: Sadie K.
Posted: October 20, 2008
Get Act Together with Race Results!
Here's a race that has a tech side heavily promoted (Nike+), yet it's now more than 24 hours after the finish, and results are still not posted. Well, they SUPPOSEDLY are, but the site doesn't work. SO frustrating! Get it together, folks! And I agree with other posters: Ridiculous to not be able to follow the runners in real-time on the site. They have the chips and the mats in place... so what gives???
By: Drea L.
Posted: October 20, 2008
Great race but a few complaints
The website is horribly cluttered and very difficult to navigate. There is no way for family members/friends to track runners and I can't even figure out where and when the official results are going to be posted. I also think the course should be reversed and it should end at Union Square as opposed to starting there. Lake Merritt is a HORRIBLE place to hit the 20-mile wall. Also, I was unable to locate the warming blankets (they should hand those out before the tee shirts!) and I almost ended up with hypothermia at the end of the race while trying to locate my checked bag. Speaking of the t-shirts, they ran extraordinarily big and I wasn't allowed to switch mine for a smaller size once I realized it 10 minutes later. But the course overall is pretty and it was much better supported than the SF Marathon.
By: Athena L.
Posted: October 20, 2008
Race Results???
I concur with the other comments. The race itself was very pleasant, but I am shocked at Nike's difficult-to-navigate website and lack of race results.
By: Liz H.
Posted: October 20, 2008
Awesome Event!!
The race was awesome and everything about the weekend was incredibly well done. I agree that it is a bummer that race results are hard to locate. However, all in all I was very impressed with Nike's effort for this event. It was incredibly well done and obviously supported not only by Nike, but other outstanding companies and brands.
Congrats to all participants on a excellent run/walk and raising 18 million for The Leukemia and Lymphoma Society!!!
By: MacKenzie B.
Posted: October 20, 2008
2008 RESULTS?
Where are the results?
By: Lauren R.
Posted: October 20, 2008
Amazing Race in an Amazing City
Finally returned home after an amazing weekend in San Francisco for the Nike Women's Marathon 2008. From the pre-race motivational speakers to the Tiffany's rewards at the end, this marathon was well organized and well presented. The marathon was a challenging course that offered breathtaking views. The amenities along the course were plentiful and the support of the fans was strong and heartfelt. Despite the cooler temperatures, the race was simply amazing! I would happily return to the City of San Francisco another year for this marathon!!
By: Tammy S.
Posted: October 20, 2008
Well-organized & beautiful but hilly course
The race was very well-organized and well-supported. This was my first marathon, but I have done a lot of shorter races and I have to say that this was the best organized one I have participated in. The packet pick-up, the aid stations, and the finish area were like a well-oiled machine, smooth and efficient. The results area at the finish had my race time right away on a computer, which was fabulous. The only negative here is that now I can't see the results online yet, the day after the race. I would like to see how my friends did!
The course was beautiful and varied for the first 16 miles, with great sights including the Embarcadero, the marina, Fisherman's Wharf, the Presidio, the Golden Gate Bridge, and some of SF's most exclusive neighborhoods. However, this is NOT a PR kind of course, with lots of hills between miles 5 and 10, and some very narrow pathways that didn't accommodate the large number of runners very well; lots of traffic problems in many places. The descent to the Great Highway and the stretch in Golden Gate Park were beautiful. Along the Great Highway for miles 16-19 or so was pretty (ocean views) but a bit tedious, and the miles around Lake Merced were not terribly exciting, just when you need it the most. Plus there was only one lane of traffic open to runners here, and sometimes not even that - it was frustrating to get stuck behind people when the course was only 4 feet-wide in a few places.
The spectators were numerous and vocal, and often right where you needed them - on hills, etc. They were the best part of this race; lots more spectators than most races I've done, and they really tried to cheer your name if it was on your shirt (mine was!), which was quite motivating. I did the race with Team in Training and the coaches and TNT staff and spectators were truly wonderful.
By: Dawn A.
Posted: October 20, 2008
Great experience!
This was my first time running the Women's Nike Half-Marathon. Beautiful views and surprisingly the course wasn't as bad as I'd initially imagined! *whew!!* There was a lot of support on the sidelines cheering you on, which was nice. The aid/water stations were stationed at convenient locations. I never needed to use the restrooms, but there were plenty available throughout the course.
The expo pre- and post-race was nice. There are a lot of people, so beware! I came relatively late to the pre-race expo, which was kind of nice since I beat the crowds. Man, the start was crazy! It was hard trying to make your way through the hoard of people trying to line up with their pace color. REALLY, REALLY HECTIC!!! Luckily my boyfriend is tall and pushed his way through so that I could line up at my designated area on time.
I do wish I had a friend with me because there were so many photo opportunities throughout the run. I don't think I got many pictures taken, if any. I ran on the sidelines, which was nice because there were fewer people there, BUT the photographers were in the middle of the road, so I probably missed them. They will take your picture if you're waving your hands in the air and screaming to get their attention. I wish I did that.
By: Angela T.
Posted: October 20, 2008
Great first marathon
This was my first full, and I've done 3 half's in other cities. I thought this race was very well organized with the exception of the website, which could use some improvement. I would also like to have an online tracker (texts or emails) for friends and family. The expo was great, but I went first thing Friday morning, so it wasn't super crowded yet. The buses were well organized and super comfortable! My husband was on the supporter buses and thought they weren't as well organized and that the drop off could use more direction. The race course was beautiful despite an overcast day. Beware of hills - DO HILL TRAINING! It isn't horrible but there are some good inclines. Some areas for improvement would be the music; bands were a little blah, needed more pep. This is a race that is very focused on TNT, which is awesome and inspiring. But, not being a TNT racer, I sort of felt like I was trying to crash the cool kids' party. I wish I would have had a running buddy or an iPod. Everything else was wonderful and I totally recommend this race. Bathrooms, water, snacks, photographers, finish area, t-shirts and the TIFFANY NECKLACE were all awesome. I also really appreciated how pumped San Fran got, especially in Union Square. It was a great experience being here even after the race. Thank you to all of the organizers for a great first marathon!!!
By: Abebe Bikila
Posted: October 19, 2008
Results Posting?
I agree with the poster who asks about online tracking (though why this is "green," I don't know...) - even more shocking in such a highly promoted race is the absence of any results - not only on the (poor) Nike site, but anywhere! Help please!
By: Spectator F.
Posted: October 19, 2008
No Online Tracking
The Nike Women's Marathon website is difficult to navigate and I was unable to locate any way to track a family member online during the race. I thought online tracking for race participants was fairly standard, especially for a marathon that promotes itself as a "green" marathon.
By: VERONICA OPAZO
Posted: April 01, 2008
IT WAS RAD!
It was my first marathon ever! I sprinted in college and now I do more distance running. The view, the people... everything was awesome. It's too bad you have to get picked now.
By: Melissa W.
Posted: February 28, 2008
I Love It!
I love everything about the race and the weekend. I did 1/2 in '06 and '07 with Team in Training and had a blast. I am looking forward to 2008.
By: Valerie G.
Posted: February 19, 2008
It's an Experience - for better or for worse!
I ran the 1/2-marathon in October 2007. I enjoyed the experience overall, but I thought there could be some improvement to the race to make it even better as it grows. The expo was very different from your typical expo, but I enjoyed it. I actually liked the fact that it wasn't full of random vendors, but there sure was a huge push to buy an iPod with Nike Plus. I enjoyed a mini-massage and a foot massage. I rubbed elbows with Joan Benoit-Samuelson! During the race, I was worried about not being part of TNT, because I read some of these reviews before I went. However, I enjoyed the cheering groups. I didn't find them to be particular about who they cheered for - they cheered for everyone. The course is absolutely GORGEOUS - bring a camera! I was able to get plenty of water, Gatorade, bananas, oranges, etc. I REALLY enjoy my Nike technical t-shirt that we got at the finish, and I wear my necklace all the time.
Now, for the not-so-great aspects: There were not enough toilets!!! I waited in line for almost 11 minutes - making my total potty stop about 12 minutes (therefore, I subtract 10 minutes from my official time when I tell people!). I've never experienced waiting times like that! Also, there seem to be a lot more participants who do not know the basic common courtesies of running ANY road race. Lots of people on cell phones, and people not moving to the side when they talk walk breaks or water breaks. Several large groups of women running next to each other 4-5 across, creating a bottleneck. And I was personally sad that I ran near 2 women who blocked each on-road photographer to pose, so they weren't able to take photos of all the runners passing by. There was only 1 spot in the 1/2 marathon where there were photographers on the course, so I didn't have any photos of me during the race, only at the finish. It is hard for spectators to get to some parts of the course, so they are concentrated in certain areas. The party at the finish line was extremely crowded, it was hard to get to the food and especially to get a massage or a photo at the finish area. Finally, I had to wait over an hour to get the bag that I checked on the course. The system failed somehow, so I had to go from bus to bus until I found my bag.
Overall, if you have a lot of patience, are part of a large group, or are a very fast runner (so you don't get stuck with novice road racers), this is a fun race. I enjoyed the course; I just had a hard time with some of the disorganization and runners who were not familiar with the "rules" of road racing.
By: Kristi Moody
Posted: February 19, 2008
Fabulous!!!!
Wow, talk about exceeding expectations!! My marathon experience couldn't have been better. I ran with the -hour pacer who coached this Houston girl up every hill (not a lot of hill training in the swamp!!), and she was super entertaining as well. I was shooting for a conservative 5-hour finish and wound up at 4:54. Every woman (and maybe men too!) should do this one. The camaraderie, cause, and overall experience cannot be beat!!!
By: Lauren G.
Posted: February 18, 2008
Beautiful course; crappy expo
I loved the race, the people were great, it was a beautiful day, and the course is great. The expo was practically non-existent, except they tried to shove 2,300 people into their store, which was ridiculous, and it didn't seem like there was a lot going on at the finish line. But I was with TNT, so maybe they just assumed we'd all be taken care of by them.
I trained with Lisa; it was wrong that she wasn't able to finish and it had something to do with a pacer being off!
By: Cali Girl
Posted: January 12, 2008
ALL-TIME FAVORITE!!!
I participated in the 2006 and 2007 events. This is my favorite race of all time! I am a girly girl and every aspect from the participants to the Tiffany necklace at finish is so feminine. The scenery is breathtakingly beautiful. So beautiful that I hold back tears every time I come over the hill to see the oceans waves crashing against the cliffs. The course is a bit hilly, but I enjoy the challenge of improving my hill running every year (and pray that it makes my butt a bit smaller).
I participated in TNT during 2006 and not in 2007. In 2007 I felt a bit like an outsider because so many people cheered for TNT and not other runners. I think I will bring my own cheer team if I do not do TNT in 2008! :-]
Ps. I love running with my iPod ear bud in one ear (music and I can hear if someone wants to chat).
By: Amy Dehne
Posted: January 12, 2008
This is a perfect first marathon!
This was my first marathon, and coming from Colorado, sea level made the hills a breeze.
Excellent support, food, and water along the way. The scenery was breathtaking.
I'm so glad I choose a women's event as my first marathon - it was a powerful experience.
I did not train or run with TNT, and thought the strong TNT presence was great. Those TNT folks raised huge amounts of money for cancer research - they deserve an extra cheer or two!
I would love to run the Nike Women's Marathon in San Francisco again!
By: Tanya Monroe
Posted: January 09, 2008
Very Hilly!
It was a challenge, and my first marathon. I just did not expect so many hills, but I am doing it again this year!
By: Sharon M.
Posted: November 25, 2007
Awesome!
This was my first visit to San Francisco and my 4th marathon. Enough of the negative comments...I had an awesome time, both visiting San Francisco itself and running the marathon. The scenery was spectacular, the weather - incredible. I appreciated all the spectators - plenty were cheering - who cares who they're cheering for - I just smiled, thanked them and ran on. As far as I was concerned, there were lots of stations for aid, water and whatever treats happened to be offered. The oranges were great, the bananas appreciated, Luna Bars a hit, the chocolate - yummm...and if you're worried about enough gel, bars or whatever...bring your own! Enough with the negativity. It is what you make it. Remember the volunteers that made it possible. I don't go to an event to criticize, I go to enjoy, and that I did. I feel an urge to return. Thank you San Francisco
By: Tracy D.
Posted: November 14, 2007
A great marathon!
This was my first marathon so I don't have much to compare it to. But, I thought it was wonderfully run. It was scenic, without much traffic, but with plenty of water. The spectators were awesome!! I was (way) toward the back of the pack and there were still plenty of people out there cheering us on.
I had such a good time that I was already dreaming of running it again next year as I limped over the finish line!
By: Lisa O.
Posted: November 12, 2007
Fantastic - my first true runner's high!
This was my 3rd 1/2 marathon, but my first big event. I trained with TNT, a great organization for a great cause. Overall it was a great event. A beautiful day on a challenging course, with great people along the course. My only complaint was that I wished the walkers had an different start time. Otherwise it was an incredible event from start to finish. I can't wait for next year.
By: Kimberly S.
Posted: November 09, 2007
Views to DIE for!
This is a FABULOUS race! I've been yearning to do this race for years! There were a few hills, but the sights at the top were out of this world - well worth the effort! The gospel choir along the waterfront was a welcome surprise for those of us who didn't make it to church. The crowds were very supportive, as well as the other participants.
There were a few drawbacks. I frequent the Rock N Roll 1/2 in Virginia Beach and they always have a boatload of food at the start. I was expecting the same, but there was no food - no bagels or bananas. Signs for the split off of the 1/2 marathon from the full involved 2 people with a small sign on sticks - I almost missed it! There was supposed to be gel on the course in 2 spots but either it wasn't there or I missed the signs. I ran the entire race on Luna fruit snacks and bar samples along with water and Gatorade - needless to say, running up the Great Highway with the wind whipping off the ocean was brutal.
I would run this again, but I'd bring my own pre-race bagel and gel - just in case!
All in all, I can't complain - it was San Francisco after all, and that was the whole reason I came!
By: Joelle D.
Posted: November 04, 2007
Overall, INCREDIBLE
This was my first marathon. I trained with Team in Training, and so had roughly 1/3 of the other runners (although considering that the race itself benefits the Leukemia Society, that should not be a huge surprise). The weather was perfect, the course is incredibly beautiful, and the hills are few and not too bad. Particularly, the fact of so many people running for cancer is inspiring (the whole race is for cancer!).
True, many runners were wearing iPods, which made it difficult for me to connect with anybody. I made many more "friends" in smaller 1/2 marathons, etc., but I have never run with this large a group..., Not to mention the scenery had me captivated as it was. I may have felt like an outsider if I weren't wearing a purple TNT singlet, but still, I would definitely recommend this one!
By: Lisa Harriott
Posted: November 02, 2007
Bitter & angry for not getting to finish the 26.2!
This was my first marathon. The course was beautiful and the water stations were good. The race was going great until we hit the 18.5-mile mark when my friend and I were told that our race was done and that we had to head toward the finish line. I was floored. I didn't know that we had to be there within 5 hours of the start of the race. We were 11 minutes late! Well we didn't get to cross the start line until after 7:25! We followed the rules and lined up with the proper pace group (12-15-min. mile) and basically got screwed. If we had only started with an earlier pace group, we would of been fine. So I trained for 6 months, raised over $8,000.00 for The Leukemia and Lymphoma Society, and didn't even get to finish my first marathon! Needless to say I'm bitter and angry at not getting to finish - and I will never do another Nike sponsored marathon, nor will I buy Nike merchandise! When you go from 15,000 runners one year to 23,000 runners the next, you should have made some adjustments. Thank you so much for ruining my whole marathon experience!
By: Lauren G.
Posted: November 01, 2007
Beautiful course
This was my first time running the Nike Women's Marathon and I must say what a beautiful course! Very Scenic. Not too much crowd support once you got to the beach but isn't there always a point in every marathon where there will not be a lot of people around? Expo was okay. I was expecting a little more. Not used to running on hills seeing as I am from Houston but I set a new PR and qualified for Boston! Overall I was happy with the end result. I do recommend this marathon to others!
By: Colleen N.
Posted: October 31, 2007
Hilly Course and Lonely...
I ran the Nike Women's Half Marathon this year for the first time. I've run 17+ marathons and more than 20 half marathons and I have to say this was the quietest and most lonely races I've ever run. The Expotique is all about women connecting and marketing of Nike iPods. Their marketing worked extremely well because when it came to the race, most of the women (except TNT) were wearing their iPods and I couldn't connect with anyone. It was so quiet at times all you would hear was the runners' shoes hitting the pavement. For me, this is not what racing is about; I like the social aspect of it. With everyone wearing their iPods it seemed like everyone was in their own world with their music with only the TNT coaches and runners cheering for their own people. I enjoy striking up a conversation with several people during the race, learning where they are from, etc., and cheering them on as I run the course. In this race, I'd try to talk to someone and there was no response.
On the positive side, the scenery was spectacular, just expect lots of hills. The expo lacked GU, fuel belts, hats, sunglasses, everything you normally see at a marathon expo; but the race was well organized and it has one of the nicest finisher's medals you will ever get. The finisher shirt was also very nice. It was a good race to run once, and if you are TNT, you will have fun.
By: Jayme M.
Posted: October 31, 2007
NO MORE COWBELLS PLEASE!
I agree with whoever said that next year, this race should be renamed the "TNT Marathon." If you aren't running with the TNT cult, don't plan on getting any support or sense of camaraderie. Not enough water or Gu around the lake. Second half of the course is disappointing. Despite my disappointment about the race, the Nike Club Run SF training was awesome. I will do the training program again, but will probably run a different race.
By: Brian B.
Posted: October 31, 2007
Beautiful Course - Well Organized
Fantastic way to see the highlights of San Francisco. Only negatives are the lack of expo and poorly designed post-race area. Spectators were allowed into the refreshment area. Long line for the bus back to Union Square, but it moved quickly. Definitely on my calendar for next year
By: jinx j.
Posted: October 30, 2007
Men in Tuxedos
My necklace was presented by a short, bulky, overweight guy stuffed into a tuxedo, who probably should have run the marathon with us runners to get into better shape! Oh well, so much for the myth of the "tall, handsome guy" giving out the Tiffany necklace!
By: Maureen B.
Posted: October 29, 2007
Ok for first-timers, not for competitive runners
This was my 13th marathon and would not do this one again.
Issues:
TOO many walkers - seemed like after the full/half split, well over 50% of participants remaining were walking.
If you are NOT TNT do NOT do this race. TNT fans only cheer for TNT runners/walkers and this race seemed to be ALL TNT people.
Expo (?) - if it isn't Nike/iPod, it isn't there. Not a single vendor - no Gu, no socks, no clothes. Manicures and other "girly" things - but not an expo like any other race.
This is not the place to try to run a good time, or to be competitive. This is a very heavy walking race and full of first- (and probably last-) timers. Course is full of women wearing iPods and talking on cell phones. A little too "girly" for me.
By: Emily D.
Posted: October 24, 2007
Beautiful course not the best spectators
I ran the Nike Women's race for the first time this year. It was a great course, beautiful views, challenging hills, and plenty of aid stations that were well stocked. The spectators were few and far between, especially after the half split off from the full group. There were A LOT of team in training people there. If you aren't one of them they won't cheer for you. Just be aware of this. I expected a sparse crowd and lots of team in training people so it didn't bother me too much. The Tiffany necklace and finisher's shirt were great. The post race food left a little to be desired. Overall I had a great time and would do it again.
By: Susan C.
Posted: October 24, 2007
I waited 4 years to run Nike and it was worth it
Fantastic race. I've run other marathons such as Vancouver, Portland, San Francisco, Lake Tahoe and this was the best experience that I've had in a marathon. The camaraderie among women runners in the race was just amazing - I really did not know what to expect in my first women's race. On a side note, I saw a few male runners behaving badly - or rather the way they might in a race with men and women: running dangerously close to people as they are passing, being a little rude about it, etc. But overall it was well run for a race this size. The lake portion of it could have used an extra water stop - but by mile 21-24, I'd drank enough water to get me back to the great highway where more water was available. Great race, I'll try to run again next year.
By: Amy K.
Posted: October 24, 2007
Nice course, limited fan support
After finishing Chicago two weeks ago, I knew I needed something more so decided to come out to San Francisco. The first half the course was great - nice and cool unlike Chicago. Felt like a good city race but way too many walkers! Perhaps it will be beneficial to have a walking lane to the right? Very frustrating. The aid stations seemed far apart but perhaps it was just me. There were many areas where there we no spectators and when you did see spectators, they stood there silent waiting for the one person they knew to run by. Kind of a let down after running Chicago several times where the fans are incredibly enthusiastic. The second half of the course was a bit brutal running along side the road and then competing with the area residents during their leisurely Sunday morning strolls. The expo was average. I tried to by energy gels there but they didn't have any?! Thought that was odd that they didn't have a vendor to sell things but had plenty of samples. The race was well organized and seemed to run itself. I thought the finish line was actually quite manageable for a race that size. I easily found my family afterwards, which was a nice change from the chaos you can expect in Chicago after the race. The weather was great, the course interesting and the race was well run. Probably wouldn't do it again though. Once was enough.
By: Amy L.
Posted: October 24, 2007
Hats off to a great race!
This was my first marathon experience, and I ran the half as a member of TNT. I thought the race was awesome-the scenery, the finish line goodies, the volunteers, etc!! I'll admit that it was a little bit frustrating getting stuck behind groups of walkers/slower runners, but what else can you expect with 23,000 participants? As far as the expo, I went on Thursday afternoon hoping to beat the crowds, and it sounds as though I made the right choice. In addition to the smaller crowds, they also had some perks that apparently weren't offered on Friday and Saturday such as wine and cheese, drawings for Tiffany's earrings, etc. Being as this was my first marathon and having nothing to compare it to, I thought it was fantastic, and really appreciated all the small touches geared towards women. I think it's a shame that there are always going to be people that find fault in EVERYTHING~I thought it was a great race for an even greater cause!! I enjoyed it so much that I have already signed up to do another half with TNT~I hope that I won't be disappointed in a different race!
By: Mary O.
Posted: October 24, 2007
Wow.....
For a first time 1/2 marathoner, I found this experience to be one-of-a-kind. I loved it all - the energy at the expo, the picturesque course, the energetic crowds. Thank you Nike, TNT, and San Francisco for creating an amazing event!!
By: Lorri M.
Posted: October 23, 2007
Race was extremely well-managed. Very pleased!
This was my first 1/2 marathon and of course I did it for the necklace! I was totally happy with the management, the incredible volunteers, the helpfulness of everyone including the Team in Training people who helped everyone regardless of whether they were with the group or not, the first aid staff, the refreshments and the awesome finish! You all deserve a GREAT BIG THANK YOU! I had the time of my life! Will come back again and again if I'm lucky enough to get in!
By: Kristin Z.
Posted: October 23, 2007
Room for improvement
I agree with the comments made regarding the 2nd half of the marathon route. Definitely needs some rethinking. I love any and all support from the spectators! The finish line area is the worst of the bottlenecks of the course and I noticed that it caused a great deal of anxiety and stress for my family and other spectators as well, and brought out the worst in some marathon staff as they tried to "manage" the crowd in such a small amount of space. A more appropriate amount of space is paramount to the future success of this race and should be given top priority in the list for improvements.
By: Miranda P.
Posted: October 23, 2007
Great Experience with TNT!
This was my first Nike Women's Marathon, and first one with Team in Training. I was glad to have all the TNT support, but am sure that those not running with TNT felt a little left out.
I thought the course was great. I actually enjoyed the hills, and the first view of the ocean with runners covering the coastline was breathtaking. The second half (down the Great Highway and around the lake) was pretty boring, but by that point I was more focused on my body and mind than my surroundings, so it didn't bother me. They were nice and flat at least.
Support was definitely lacking around the lake. They need to move the mile 20 aid station back a bit and add another one around 22. These are the hardest miles of the run, and no water?! I didn't take the chocolate at mile 23, either. I was very glad I carried my fuel belt with me; I would have likely slowed down a lot around the lake without it.
I consider myself a pretty average build, and the finisher's tee fit me perfectly in a medium. Such a nice change from getting a baggy men's large, like at the end of most races. I came in at 4:43:01, and there seemed to be plenty of all sizes of shirts left.
Other than the waterless miles 21-24 (or so), the water stations seemed nicely spaced, and always well-stocked. I didn't need a port-a-potty any time after the start, and brought my own gels, so I didn't take any food on the course.
It was a little obnoxious to navigate the walkers in the first 4 miles or so, but it seemed to thin out quite a bit after mile 4 or 5. I PR'd by 11 and a half minutes, and got a great split bracelet on the marathon website.
I'm not really big on marathon expos, so I really only went for the packet pickup (which was very efficient at 9 am on Saturday). Niketown was crowded and out of many sizes by Saturday morning, but 5th floor of Macy's still had plenty of sizes, and even styles I hadn't seen at Niketown.
Overall, I really enjoyed this race, and am glad I did it with TNT. I don't think I will do it again, but would certainly recommend it to friends.
By: A.J.` B.
Posted: October 23, 2007
Great Marathon-Better if done with TNT
This was my first marathon and I did it with TNT. I had no expectations about the expo, the course, etc. It all seemed great to me. The support was awesome, with groups all over the place to cheer you on. The course was great, with oceanfront, hills, and flats, with the exception of the 'dead zone' around Lake Merced. The part where you least want to finish is where the most support should be.
On the flip side, due to injury, I walked the majority of the course, but did the early start. I made it before the sweep, and actually finished. But, the timing chips 'stop'(???) after a certain time, so now I have no final 'offical' time, other than my own measurement. I would have done better not to complete it? That's fairly insulting after all the training we did. I didn't mind the fact all the amenities were gone, but at least give me credit for the accomplishment.
Will do again, but would like an improved timing system.
By: Amy C.
Posted: October 23, 2007
Beautiful course but all else could be better
I enjoyed the course a lot. It was beautiful and challenging. I ran a PR and feel great about it. However, this race could be so much better.The expo was extremely disappointing. Even local marathons in cities much smaller than San Fran manage to have better expos. The selection of Nike gear was also surprisingly limited in availability, sizes, and colors. The post-race area was chaotic and also seemed more interested in capitalizing from the spectators than athlete support. Other things such as water/Gatorade, spectators, and overall organization were average. I'm glad I did it (and trained on lots of hills to prepare for it) but I wouldn't do it again.
By: Naomi M.
Posted: October 23, 2007
Will be back in 2008 for my 5th Nike
This is a magnificent race. The atmosphere of a women's event is great, whether you are a novice or experienced participant. The course is gorgeous, the "medal" - what can you say?! And the nice touches like Coat Check mile and Chocolate Mile - how fun! I wish more San Francisco residents would come out and cheer, especially around Lake Mercer; but we can always focus on the scenery. The crowd was much tighter this year and even as a race-walker, I had trouble getting around slower runners and walkers for the crowd. But I'll be back!
By: Shaler Barnes
Posted: October 23, 2007
Inaccurate Chip Time?
Has anyone ever had their chip not work? Three of us started together and finished together - yet one of us had a time of 2:02 and two of us had a time of 2:07.... We timed it on our watches and we were 2:02 as well, but I think the chip started recording at the official start as opposed to when we started (5 minutes later). Did I not stomp on the pad hard enough? Is it normal to have technical issues?
In any event, what a treat this was. I don't have any complaints (besides the inaccurate chip time) because my only expectation was for me to get my "post preggo" booty in gear and the half marathon was really a reward. It was so frickin' gorgeous up there - wow oh wow. Hope to do it again next year. Loved the spectators and volunteers... such wonderful energy.
By: Mel A.
Posted: October 23, 2007
Great race that could be improved on
This is a really fun race that I would recommend for a first time marathoner or half marathoner. Not a great place to try for a PR (hills, crowded course, limited room to pass walkers/slower runners), but it is awesome to run with 23,000 women. Team in Training has a huge presence at this event, but the coaches, mentors, and spectators cheer on and help ALL runners. Like other runners, I agree that the Lake Merced section needs to be revamped. In general, the overall logistics of the race are good. Nike could improve the experience by focusing on the details. Runners come back to races where they feel like they were treated well and got good value for the long hours of training. Nike is not quite there yet, but this year was an improvement over last year.
By: Kathy M.
Posted: October 23, 2007
It will WAKE you up!
It was my fourth marathon in San Francisco my ninth over all. I keep coming back. With Nike helping the LLS we will always be a winner. To have so many people gather for a event is 'GREAT'. We are not athletes but women and men that have great nephews and wifes, husbands the list goes on that have died from Leukemia. Thank you Nike for doing a great job.km10/23/2007
By: Leslie J.
Posted: October 23, 2007
The best race for my first and last marathon!
I flew across the country to participate in the NWM (not with TNT). The race course was beautiful. The support along the way was fantastic! I was motivated and inspired by the runners and walkers that finished the race. But, I will say that that when you have 20000 people registering, checking bags, picking up bags, lining up at the start there is bound to be confusion and I was ok with that. I have to agree that the Lake Merced portion of the course seemed under supported (a little boring compared to the first 13miles) and sun was high and hot by the time I reached that portion of the course. After the beauty of the first portion of the course its hard to get excited about a lake! :-) I did not enjoy walking so far after the race to get my bag although I appreciated the opportunity to have my things held as well as the changing tent. Overall it was a WONDERFUL experience one I will never forget!!! Oh - Thanks to the lovely 1/2 marathoner that let me have her GU when I dropped mine on the course!
By: Amanda Z.
Posted: October 23, 2007
Great Views, Poor Organization
This has to be one of the most beautiful courses to run in the country. Hills were tough but scenery made up for it.
A few issues with the organization. The lead group after the elite should not be made up of men dressed up in bananas and women carrying babies in backpacks. They were sure to get trampled by the next fastest group on the course.
The expo was VERY disappointing. Having run several marathons/half marathons the expo is usually a highlight of the event. This year it was clear that NIKE wanted all the profits. The expo and Niketown were unbearable. Hard not to anticipate the crowds with 23,000 runners and their family along with general SF crowds. The convention center would have been a much better place to hold a REAL expo.
I ran with TNT and was SO impressed with the number of first timers who devoted so much effort to the fundraising and training. My hat goes off to them.
By: Robert M.
Posted: October 23, 2007
Do the half
The course was beautiful, especially the first half. That is one of the problems with this run. As an experienced marathoner this is a great course but do the half. This is a charity run so there are many walkers and first time marathoners. If you are expecting a good time, don't. The hills, walkers, narrow course at times will prevent it. So sit back and enjoy the views. The Expo before the event was a joke, too small for the number of people. A packed zoo, so we left with our bib and no perks. The lines were huge for what ever perks that were there. TNT support was great along the race with the exception between mile 18 and 25. The race breaks done at that point. Not enough water stations when runners need them. First aid stations are non-existent. New marathoners were walking and looking for aid or water but organizers had a chocolate handout at mile 23. Go figure. Post race was typical zoo. Buses were a joke unless you were a TNT runner. As a TNT runner, I walked directly on a bus that took me back to my hotel. Non-TNT runners were waiting in a line that was well over 200 yards long. For newer marathoners, I bet they were annoyed that 1/2 marathoners were recognized with same shirt as full. So organization was poor, course was great for 3/4 of the run, and I'd do the half.
By: Courtney M.
Posted: October 23, 2007
Fantastic Experience
This was my first marathon (did the full!) and I thought it was great. It seems like lots of people are complaining, but I don't have another experience to compare it to. Oh well! The necklace is too small so I will be headed to a jewelry store for a new chain. No biggie. I cannot imagine not going through TNT though. What fantastic support, especially for a first timer.
By: Kathi E.
Posted: October 23, 2007
Beautiful course, great takeaways
I have run this marathon since its first time (4 times) and this one was just as good as last year. The course is great (didn't mind Lake Merced as it is very easy to run the flat course after the hills), the weather was perfect. I was lucky enough to get into the VIP area for qualifying as an elite so I had a lot of perks (like starting all the way in the front of the race). The t-shirt is really cute this year and finally the right size (previous years were always too big, even when taking x-small). Necklace is very pretty again. As always, tons of TNT support but they also cheered me on so I can't complain...Overall great race, I'll run it again next year.
By: Susan K.
Posted: October 23, 2007
Support the lake Merced loop or change the course
This is the third time I've run Nike. I love the event and love the course. The terrain is varied and interesting and the views are spectacular. However, each year I am more and more befuddled by the lack of support around Lake Merced. This year was the worst ever. There were 3-mile spans between water stations at the END of the marathon when runners need it the most. Moreover, if you did happen to get dehydrated in this area, there are no med stations either. This seems irresponsible for a company like Nike. I also want to say that I support TNT. It's a great venue for first time marathoners and an inspiring way to raise money. However, be forewarned: if you are an experienced athlete and are running for a PR, it's nearly impossible because of the the large blocks of walkers in the race who block the road.
That said, I like this marathon and I'd do it again.
By: Hedi F.
Posted: October 23, 2007
gorgeous course but needs better organization
I had an 'early start', and had planned on going out running from the start line. Due to number of walkers, did not even begin to run until mile 6. People were asking each other - when do we run? Unclear if walkers and runners were together, separate, and no one checked our ID or badge, despite mega-heavy warnings to the contrary pre-race. Views were spectacular, but hard to weave my way in and out of walkers. I had no problems with water supply, volunteers, or being cheered - I also did TNT. The bagpipes at mile 7, 8 - spectacular! I was super worried I'd be using the bushes, but never had a problem with bathroom accessibility. However, I, like everyone else it seems, hated Lake Merced. No water, no support, ugly scenery, and felt like I needed to worry about cars. Also, no fun running by the sewage treatment plant. Common guys, last thing you want to smell at mile 17, 18.... The expotique and Nike store were an utter madhouse and unbearable, and whatever perks were offered were impossible to obtain due to wait time and general hysteria. However, I'm just happy I finished, I felt supported almost the entire way, and I was prepared for far worse hills, being a native San Franciscan.
By: Debbie P.
Posted: October 23, 2007
City Fantastic - Nike - not so much
So here is the thing...come to San Fran, run a marathon, earn a Tiffany Necklace...all supported by Nike. Unfortunately, the esteem with those names did not carry..Niketown was a disaster and that was the only place you could get stuff (unlike most expos where stuff is online and in HUGE expo areas) and then u share a course with half-ers all the way...this makes for more frustration of hearing 'only 2 more miles!' when I have a whole 15 to go! I found the course to be poorly supported and I expect more from nike and the 'company' it keeps. The necklace was ok...but there were the exact same t-shirt saying Half-marathon and marathon finisher...to figure out how to get my full vs a 'half' that I initially ended up with was a matter of national security. If you want a marathon for achievement support and SPORT, unfortunately, NIKE isn't there yet. I'm experienced in marathoning but this was below expectations.
By: am t.
Posted: October 23, 2007
beautiful course but some major disapointments
This is my second year running the Nike Marathon. Everything was fantastic with the exception of the extreme lack of fluids on the last 6 miles of the course (which is when the marathoners need it MOST) and the lack of Jamba Juice after the marathon. Dehydration! Jamba Juice poorly planned for the event which resulted in running out of Jamba Juice halfway through the event, should have regulated from having spectators not taking the Jamba at least!!!! Very disappointing. T-shirts definitely run very small. Overall, I'd do it again but definitely will continue to give my feedback in hopes improvements will be made for next years events. OH yeah, shuttle lines were very LONG!!
By: Brooke Lembke
Posted: October 22, 2007
Average women doing amazing things!!
I did this race once before in 2005 and I must say; it just keeps getting better. Nike has outdone itself once again. There is no other marathon that makes women feel so amazing and important like this one. This race is extremely difficult but in the end its all worth it; especially for the Tiffany necklace. One piece of advice I have for all those who are excited to try it next year: check out the course ahead of time and familiarize yourself with the hills, so that you know what to expect the day of the race. Always be prepared!! Thanks for everything.
By: stacey t.
Posted: October 22, 2007
great run!
Considering how many people there were that wanted to, and did run, I thought the organization, the course, and volunteers were amazing! It was nice to see so many making the effort to get out and run for a good cause.
I wasn't part of the TNT, but good for those that were and it was awesome that they had great support.
We had a great experience, and loved the finisher's necklace!
By: Rashi I.
Posted: October 22, 2007
Pleasure..........all the way!
This was my First Marathon and I honestly didn't know what to expect..........however, the club training runs did have me set up high expectations which, I must say were thoroughly met!!
The course was be-au-tiff- ulll..........it did get a little sad towards the lake (the heat and not that many aid stations). The overall organization, I thought was excellent.....especially finding sudden surprises of live bands, music playing- it was all fun!
All in all, I loved it and for sure will be looking out for the early bird registeration for NWM 2008!!!
By: Silma R.
Posted: October 22, 2007
1/2 Marathon - great!
My 2nd race - 1st 1/2 marathon. The expo was crowded, and it was hard to get answers. The 1/2 course was beautiful! The view from the hills was breathtaking. After all the comments, I will probably only do the 1/2 again.
By: John B.
Posted: October 22, 2007
2nd time lost a lot of the charm
I love this course, that being said, this is going to sound like sour grapes, but I was very disappointed this year.
This is the second time I've run Nike, and as a man I was one of only 900 male runners. Last year they had 15,000 runners, while this year they had 23,000. I don't mind running with that many runners, but with a 7am start, by the time my pace group crossed the starting line it was well past 7:20am. This is again no problem, until I got to the 30K mark where I was stopped by a Team In Training group who said that I had to turn around because there was a 5 hour time limit to get to 18.5 miles. When I told the TnT coach that I had actually crossed the start over 20 minutes late, he made a rude comment and told me to turn around and continue on, and I run for the Team! Based on my chip time I still had well over 15 minutes. So my race ended up being 22 miles instead of 26.2. Now, I know the city has to open up at some point, but if you are going to add 8 thousand more runners you need to make an adjustment.
Also my girlfriend bought a shuttle pass to take her to 2 locations and the finish, and she had to argue with the driver to take her to the 13.1 mile mark which was the second stop on the schedule. So, although I love this race I was very disappointed.
By: Tresha S.
Posted: October 22, 2007
Excellent
This is the 3rd year my daughters and I have run in the Nike race. This was the most organized year, and the best year ever. People keep saying this was a TNT thing; they are wrong - this was a WOMEN'S THING. I hope to do this every year.
By: Tauny S.
Posted: October 22, 2007
This was an amazing experience
The course has breathtaking views, mile after mile. Plenty of water/Gatorade, and great fans. I will definitely do this event again.
By: Ray L.
Posted: October 22, 2007
A great first marathon!
Thoroughly enjoyed myself. Being part of TEAM in Training was very positive for me!
By: Megan D.
Posted: October 22, 2007
Things were better last year!!!
Good times to be had b7 all; however, I was very disappointed by the lack of music this year, the bathrooms (or lack thereof), the fact that they ran out of oranges and water, the TINY shirts, and the super short necklace. Who runs out of water during a race???
I feel very bad for a lot of the runners who were motivated to complete this race; some of them are a little chubbier and NONE of the after-race prizes fit them.
It is a TNT event, so it makes sense that so many people are all about "GO TEAM," but come on, open up more bibs for other people!!!
It is a great race for fun times with friends, and overall a great time!!!!
By: Michelle E.
Posted: October 22, 2007
Full vs. Half
Starting the half and full marathoners together was a disaster. As a full marathon runner, I need space to get into my pace and with so many walkers and half runners; I could not find it until the split (nearly mile 11) and was very tired of saying, "Excuse me" on this somewhat narrow path at times. This was very disappointing after spending over 5 months training. TNT drove me crazy, but I applaud their abilities to raise money. There should have been different designs of sweatshirts, race finisher shirts and necklace, depending on which run you participated in. I ran 26.2 miles and got the same as a walker for 13.1? Hmm? Extremely disappointing, Nike. Also, what is up with spectators eating and drinking at the finish? Isn't that for participants only? Lame.... Oh yeah, you might as well call it the TNT Marathon next year.
By: Beth Howard
Posted: October 22, 2007
Might as well call it the TNT Marathon
This is my second year running this race. I want to come back because I love San Fran. and I love to run, but the TNT people made up the overwhelming majority of runners/walkers. Great cause, but not everyone is running their first marathon. Whose idea was it to put the porta-johns right in front of the gear-check buses" How could they not anticipate that bottleneck?! Still, a gorgeous course so I'm tempted to come back and hope that Nike pays attention to details. You know how many people registered. Why not have enough of everything??
By: sonya j.
Posted: October 22, 2007
Nice, scenic route
I ran the half marathon. I mainly want to comment on the expo and goody bag. I have run 17 marathons and at least 5 1/2 marathons. I suppose I was expecting more since this was a "women's" marathon. I've run smaller races and have gotten better goody bags. I would have thought they would have gotten some items that were geared toward women. Having to get a large shirt after finishing was a little disturbing. What a way to make a woman feel good! Haha.
By: Carrie B.
Posted: October 22, 2007
Nike Marathon did NOT live up to expectations!
I have been thrilled to run this marathon since the day I registered. Between the Tiffany finisher necklace, and the women's expotique and picturesque views, everything about it sounded fabulous! But I thought the expo was a disappointment. They could have had apparel here. Niketown was mayhem, without enough sizes left, on Sat. at 8 a.m.! I ended up with a sweatshirt that says, "1/2 marathon" - and I ran the full! Nike will not exchange it, and they do not sell online. Course had limited water stops the last 6 miles, and I became dehydrated as a result. BYOL if you get thirsty at the end of the race. Necklaces run really small, and my pace person ran too fast and did not end up finishing! The line for the bus at the end was a nightmare! I feel like you had to run an additional 26.2 miles to get your bag check, and catch the transportation bus. I do not know if I would recommend this race to someone with high expectations, or someone not with TNT.
By: Heather C.
Posted: October 22, 2007
Super
I thought that most aspects of this race were fantastic, and exactly as I expected from the information provided.
Course - gorgeous - and I mean gorgeous - for the first half, especially because we had amazing sunny weather. The second half was not as scenic (downright lousy around the lake) and it got a bit hot, but how much better does a course really get?
Organization - I thought it was amazingly well done. However, as I saw reported in previous years, there was not enough water around the lake loop, right where the course gets ugly and people are starting to bonk. What gives? Also, the pace leaders (new this year) had tiny one-sided signs, so they were nearly impossible to find in the start line-up, and hard to follow after. I gave up trying to keep an eye on mine. I thought the entertainment provided was nice, and the finish was organized so that you couldn't miss anything - you were funneled through the goodies and chip return.
Spectators - I was surprised by the great turnout of spectators, and yes, they may may have primarily been there for TNT members, but I still liked seeing them out there and making noise. They seemed to cheer in general and create a festive environment. The TNT members sure did have a lot of support along the course from their fellow runners and coaches, but I didn't find anything offensive about it.
Final comments - I'm glad I did this, and I don't know whether I'll ever do it again, but I would recommend it as a great first marathon experience.
By: Jennifer P.
Posted: October 22, 2007
Fun time was had, however.....
Well, this was my first Nike Women's Marathon, third marathon overall. It was a beautiful course!!!! The lake part was OK! The volunteers out on the course were AWESOME!!! However, there were not too many spectators and if there were spectators it was all TNT focus. This really seemed more like a TNT marathon then a Nike marathon, but I realized its for a GREAT cause!!! Another thing to add was having the half and full runners together for such a long time was a little frustrating and maybe having the marathon runners start earlier and the half runners later would help with the congestion on the course. I know other events do that or even have the half and full run different courses.
I was very disappointed about the apparel selection and that there were NO Smalls or Mediums in anything!!! Women were just grabbing things to grab them; Nike town was a mad house on Saturday!!!! I felt like one of those brides grabbing cheaper priced wedding gowns and having her girlfriends grab dresses for her too!!! I am glad that Nike had the embroidery option and then you could customize your shirt at least. My friend had to do that to a plain pink hooded long sleeve because she couldn't find what she wanted. I did like all the runners/walkers names on the side of Nike Town. That was pretty cool!!!!
The expo, well, I thought it was pretty lame!!!! Not impressed at all!!
Overall, I really liked this and had a GREAT time running with my girlfriend. I will come back next year, however, I will buy my stuff on-line beforehand!!!!
By: Irene L.
Posted: October 22, 2007
Fantastic scenery and well organized.
I've had nothing but positive feedback on the Tiffany necklace. The T shirts at glance looked like they ran small so I picked the next larger size which was perfect. Looking forward to running again next year. Well done!
By: Jane S.
Posted: October 22, 2007
Tiffany got cheap! And shirts too small!!
Great day in SF, lots of support along the race, BUT they need to do better with finisher items. Tiffany necklace is now on a 2' shorter chain and T-shirt is about 2 sizes smaller. What happened? Are they trying to save money in the small details cause the race is now bigger? Come on, we work hard - don't cheapen it up at the end!
By: Deborah J.
Posted: October 22, 2007
Great support, but finisher T-shirts are terrible
This is my 3rd yr at Nike and each year I'm soooo disappointed that the finisher T-shirt each year is only fit for a 12-yr old. 2007 is especially bad. I wear a L normally, but got the XXL cause I know they run small, but this year the XXL won't even fit my niece (who's actually only 10!) Come Nike, not everyone is a size 2!!
By: Alison L.
Posted: October 22, 2007
The location covers a lot of sins
A group of us travelled to San Fran in search of 'the Tiffany necklace', while the city of SF did not disappoint the expo was lame, the merchandise sparse both in stores and online and the course was unbelievably unsupported. There was very little medical support (made me nervous since my mom was walking 'back in the pack') and the total absence of food until after mile 9 (and the two highest hills) was not good. And, unless you're TNT, don't expect cheers. Once done, the PURCHASED transportation back had a line HOURS long (cmon, they know how many tix were bought) so we hopped a city bus for $1.50. I'd come back to the city but not so sure about the Race...there are better.
By: Kathy g.
Posted: October 21, 2007
Great
Had a great time. This was the best yet.
By: Jill Z.
Posted: October 17, 2007
It's a Girl...No, TNT Thing
I'm preparing for my third Nike marathon. Having participated in Tahoe and Big Sur races, the hills didn't bother me. The Team in Training groups are extremely overwhelming, and can make you seem inferior, but I try to remember the bigger picture, which is raising money for a great cause. I have already done my part in fundraising for the 3 Day Breast Cancer Walk, and shouldn't feel bad because I want to run a race without asking the same friends for money again and again. I enjoy the organization, and the course, but will probably make this my last year, as it is definitely a TNT event, and not as welcoming to others. It was nearly impossible to sign up without doing so through TNT anyway.
By: Michele C.
Posted: August 02, 2007
Was just kinda eh, ok
Ran this as my first marathon in 2006 with TNT. It was a very moving and emotional race, for being my first one, for the number of purple singlets, and for seeing the L&L survivors cheering you on. The organization was great, I must say, but the course SUCKED. Not because it was hilly; I mean, it's San Francisco, so that should be expected, but the out-and-back on the highway was horrible as was the loop around the lake, running right next to traffic, and all with no spectators. Wouldn't do it again, but it was an experience to say the least.
By: Sarah A.
Posted: March 29, 2007
An awesome race, though not one I'd do twice
This was my first marathon, and I had a fantastic time. I went with TNT, so I was in the 'group,' but I can see how one might feel out of it if they went on their own. It was well organized, the water and food stations were well staffed, and the first few miles of the course were breathtaking, with the fogged in Golden Gate. The leg of the race through the residential areas was boring. There was not a great deal of crowd support, even through the chute and at the finish line, which was a shame. The leg of the race through Golden Gate Park was beautiful, and ending right on the beach was fantastic. The 'extras' were well-done: the necklace is beautiful, the 'Run for' signs were fun to look out for, the race shirt is awesome (for a woman), and the flute ensemble standing at the top on mile 7 was perfect! Being SF, the hills were pretty brutal, and so I don't know if I'd do it again, but overall, it was defnitely worth doing once, especially when you take some of the down time to explore the city.
By: Sherri R.
Posted: March 02, 2007
Great If You've Done a Marathon Before
I thought this was a great marathon. I ran it in 2005, and, at the time it was my fourth marathon. I've also registered for the 2007 race. I was scared but also excited by the hills as an extra challenge. I was actually surprised that my mile splits were actually FASTER on the hill miles than the flatter miles! My title says this is a great marathon if you've done a marathon before, and I think that is true, at least if you are like me. I did my first marathon in 2002 (Marine Corps Marathon in Washington, DC) and it was great because it was FLAT! I think that is optimal for many people, especially first-timers. I would have found a hilly marathon very daunting for the first time around.
Oh, another great bonus was the temperature - it was perfect and cool, but not too cold, whereas Marine Corps and San Jose (which I did in 2006) were too hot. If you want an expo experience, this race isn't stellar, but as an experienced marathoner I don't really need that anymore. Marine Corps expo can't be beat! I personally liked the goodies being a necklace and a shirt tailored for women. The medals get kind of pointless after awhile because you can't do anything with them! And having a shirt that actually FIT ME was great. All the other marathons gave me shirts made for MEN and I never wore them because they were ill fitting. For any men complaining about this marathon, suck it up and run a different race. It's called the Nike Women's Marathon. Let us have just one okay? All the others are geared towards you....
By: fred w.
Posted: January 10, 2007
Think before you enter
If you are a man or are not with Team in Training, don't even think about this one. Even the so-called expo only had things for women - not even one shirt for a man. And since it was a Nike race, they were the only vendor. As for the course, I loved the first half but then you are out on a desolate highway for the last half of the race. Finally, after finishing what do they give the men that finish? A baby blue shirt that says, "Ran like a girl" - and a necklace. Thanks a lot. The only good thing I can say about this race is with over 15,000 women running, there was a lot of tail to look at. San Fran: love the town hate the race.
By: Nichole T.
Posted: December 09, 2006
Awesome Experience!
This was my first marathon and I did run with TNT. Yes, the hills were challenging, but it is San Fran. The course was beautiful, but the lake did seem just a little long. The necklace and t-shirt were awesome! The spectators really kept me going! I enjoyed the music and "run for" signs. There was plenty of water and sports drinks along the way. I would love to run this marathon again. For the people that have a lot of complaints, just remember this race benefited a wonderful society and helped many people in their fight against leukemia and lymphoma.
By: Angie P.
Posted: November 29, 2006
Best race ever!
This year was my 2nd year running the half marathon, and it is truly an awesome experience. I have run two other halves and one full, and this one is by far the best. I did not run with TNT, and spectators tend to cheer only for TNT people, but that is my only complaint. The organization improved a lot from 2005, especially the finish line corrals, bag drop, and busing back to Union Square. People have complained that bag drop and the course was confusing, but you get a fantastic course map with all the information on it in your race packet, so if you take the time to look at it, everything should be very clear. Even without the map, the course was well-marked. I generally try to get the bathroom breaks over with before the race, so I didn't have a problem with lack of porta-potties. I love the necklace (different from last year's, of course), love, love, love the hot men in tuxes, adore the finisher t-shirt (I got mine in a small - it fits perfectly, and I'm average), and really enjoyed spending a weekend with my girlfriend's and family. I personally don't find expos all that entertaining, but at this one I got a manicure, which is more than I got from any other race expo. And the talk given about running hills was priceless!
I would recommend this race to any one, especially women who want to make an event out of a race. This race is special not because of the PRs, or the t-shirt, or even the necklace, but because of what it means. I ran most of the race next to a man who had a shirt with a picture of a little boy on the back, and and above it said, "In memory of my son." That's why you run.
By: Elizabeth H.
Posted: November 06, 2006
Disappointed
I was relatively disappointed with this marathon. The first half of the course was exciting and beautiful, but it went way downhill after that. The second half of the course had very little crowd support and it made the race much more difficult to complete. At about mile 20 there was a portion of the course that was on the side of a busy road and cars were buzzing by. Portions of the course were also confusing. I saw several people stop because they weren't sure that they were going the correct way. That should NEVER happen in major race. I ran the Detroit Marathon a couple of years ago and found the scenery and crowd in that marathon to be much better.
By: Gina W.
Posted: November 05, 2006
Course was beautiful; a great girl event
This was my second marathon and I enjoyed it as much as my first (Chicago), even PRed by 12 minutes. The only thing beneficial I got from the expo was the pace band specific to this course. Otherwise, it was a waste of time. I ran with TNT for the 2nd time - an awesome experience. The regular race packet pickup seemed to go smoothly but the TNT pickup was unnecessarily long and in an inconvenient place (the 4th floor of Niketown). The Nike marathon clothing were sized for models, not real women. I am fairly average size woman and had to get an XL t-shirt (which was much smaller than the XL finisher shirt). There were enough port-a-potties at the start, but not enough during the first 10 miles of the course. There needed to be more instructions about the gear drop-off BEFORE the race. The course was fabulous, except that part around the lakes. There wasn't enough water and we had to run on a sidewalk - yuck. The rest was just beautiful. It was a very different experience to run with mostly women. The last part to the finish was full of encouraging people and the blue box at the end made it all worthwhile. I'm already recruiting my friends to come back next year for the half (especially since the necklace is the same!).
By: Louise B.
Posted: November 01, 2006
Loved it - great spirit. Well done, SF!
Before I ran I was afraid of the hills; after running the marathon, all I can say is that I am amazed - the hills give the course character and make the time speed by!
By: Dennis P.
Posted: November 01, 2006
Great Place to Run.
Course was well marked, and the hills were not as brutal as at the SF Marathon. I ran with Team in Training, as did most of the field. Might be intimidating for those not wearing a purple TNT singlet. Even worse if you're not part of TNT AND a man! But, great for those who did!
By: Susan G.
Posted: November 01, 2006
Boston, Baby!!
I signed up for this race with 12 girlfriends, and the jewelry was the main incentive, of course! This race is really fun, different for the "girly" aspect, and well-organized. The expo is not great, but Nike is everywhere and they do great "stuff," so we all loved the "Run Like A Girl" shirts and other paraphernalia. I was worried about "the hill" because I wanted to qualify for Boston. Obviously it's not that bad because I met my goal. I would recommend this race to any girls looking for a destination marathon.
By: Linda M.
Posted: October 30, 2006
Great marathon
This was my first visit to San Francisco. I enjoyed the city and the marathon. I loved the necklace! (The necklace was one of the reasons that I selected this marathon.) The weather was comfortable, and it was the first time I had run in fog. The course was beautiful.
Like most marathons, the first couple of miles were crowded. Although I wasn't part of TNT, many people still cheered for me. Plus all of the volunteers were friendly. I would run this one again!
By: Tara W.
Posted: October 30, 2006
My favorite race, ever!
Some of the negative comments I've read make me wonder if those people ran a completely different race. This was my second time running this marathon, and I feel that it's an extraordinary experience! There were lots of water stops filled with volunteers, and a healthy number of spectators. I would have preferred more DJs and water stops further down Highway 1, right before Lake Merced, and more water around the lake, but it wasn't unbearable or anything. Although it's easy to feel left out if you're not with TNT, I just wrote my name on my bib and got some cheers! The finisher's shirt is AWESOME and post-race food and drink are great. My only (selfish!) gripe is that it would have been nice to see more people doing massages, because the wait was sooo long.
By: Sigrun T.
Posted: October 28, 2006
This Must be the World's Best Run!
There were seven of us coming from Calgary, Alberta to run this marathon, and I believe a total of 70 runners came from our city. We spent a considerable amount of money - but boy was it worth it. We loved everything, the whole atmosphere of the run, the togetherness, the friendships, the finisher's prizes etc., etc. For those men that are whining about having to wear a women's shirt I can only say, too bad! You have no idea how many ugly, ill-fitting men's shirts I have collected over the years because usually everyone caters to men in these races. This was a women's marathon, so suck it up and give the shirt and necklace to your wife or girlfriend! See you in 2007!
By: Katie W.
Posted: October 27, 2006
My first marathon... not bad
First marathon we've ever done (hubby and myself). Agree 100%... not enough bathrooms!! We waited as long as we could - at the mile 4 marker we waited 17 minutes for the bathroom. Should have a t-shirt for the guys and maybe a key chain or money clip. they know how many sign up so wouldn't need to guess on numbers! Lake Merced was the worst. Not enough cheer stations or water breaks. Had 13-something-minute miles until we were going around that lake. Dying for water! We finished in just under six hours (not bad for only 8-9 mile training runs - injury) and were disappointed everything was being wrapped up at the finish line. Made us feel insignificant! We were part of TNT and talked with anyone and everyone. But we did notice people cheering only for TNT participants, which was sad. Saw TNT coaches helping others and giving snacks to everyone along the way. Disappointed in the fact that a lot of stations ran out of things - i.e., chocolate. Don't understand why the after-party was closed down so soon. Not all timers at mile markers worked. Should have mile signs in a different color from the "run for" signs!
By: David C.
Posted: October 27, 2006
I chose between this and Chicago
I made the right choice going to Chicago.
By: Terri T.
Posted: October 26, 2006
Inspirational
Loved the race. It was tough but to see all these women... and men running for a good cause were wonderful. Very disappointed with the necklace though. Nowhere on it does it say that you ran a marathon. Half and full got the exact same necklace. I really feel that it should be distinguished between the two and written somewhere on the front of it.
By: Angie B.
Posted: October 26, 2006
I'll definitely be back - but for the half!
This is a great race - the course is amazing, especially the first half. The only part I didn't like was the loop around Lake Merced - I was prepared for the big hills, but this was a long gradual hill running right alongside traffic and with little support. Even with the hills I was able to PR by 12 minutes. Loved the finisher's shirts and necklace. I'd much rather have the necklace than a medal that I'd shove in a drawer and forget about. There weren't a lot of spectators early on, but that's not when I need them - there were big crowds at mile 11, 16 and then along the Great Highway, which was really motivating. Overall a great experience!
By: Frances G.
Posted: October 26, 2006
Awesome sights, perfect weather, great city!
The course had some challenging factors (such as the hills, and that long, flat stretch at the end) but they made the course more interesting. The spectators were very supportive.
By: TJ Caplinger
Posted: October 26, 2006
Incredible First Race
This was an incredible first marathon for me. I think Nike did a great job and its too bad most people on this site complain. First off, I'm a guy and knew I was running a women's marathon. I did it with TNT and am perfectly happy with the finishing necklace and shirt. I ran this race for the challenge, not the gifts - and anyway, they make great conversation pieces and give me the opportunity to tell others what I accomplished. Secondly, elevation maps were posted well before race day, so hills should be no surprise. Thirdly, the time people were required to finish by was clearly posted prior to race day. Congrats on finishing, but how long should everyone wait. Fourth, how could you not know where to line up before the race? Did you look at the map in your race bag?! And as for the expo, why should Nike invite anyone else when Nike spent the money on this race? Why did most of you run, for pre-race and post-race activities and gifts or for the challege and the cause? How 'bout some constructive criticism and stop the stupid complaining? Or how about telling others who have never run how great it feels to accomplish something as great as a marathon? I guess next year Nike should have an all-downhill course allowing people four days to finish, with filet mignon and personal stretch limos at the finish. Sounds like something everyone could do, which wouldn't make us special.
By: diane g.
Posted: October 26, 2006
SF has HILLS
The course was challenging, but SF has hills - no way around that, so you just need to train for them. Support was great at water and aid stations. Expo was so-so. Start porta-potties were fantastic - very few lines!!!!! Yes, Team in Training was well represented, both among racers and supporters. I was disappointed at the lack of support Nike showed Team members who through their efforts raised money but were not allowed to sell Team merchandise at the expo. Nike also failed to have the appropriate supply of medium, large and extra large t-shirts at the finish and expo. We are not all small!! Necklaces were very nice!! Also, the July '06 SF Marathon had a much better display of results online (Nike's was very limited).
By: Jeff K.
Posted: October 25, 2006
Great race and yes, I ran like a girl
I was in the minority as a male running the event (though I did it with TNT, so I had great support throughout the course). My wife did the half marathon (her first) and we both had a great time. My only complaint was the packet pickup for TNT runners (we waited in a line for almost an hour to get into NikeTown while non-TNT runners walked into the tents and got theirs immediately). Overall, a great race, and as a married father of four, I'm proud to wear the shirt they gave me. I was just glad they had a male-styled version for us guys. : )
By: Theresa M.
Posted: October 25, 2006
Not Fair to the Late Finishers
Let me start with saying I finished the marathon on time and got that beautiful necklace & the fantastic finishers shirt. This was my first Marathon and I ran with TNT and the entire experience is one I will never forget! My only gripe was for the runners that came in after the 7 hour time limit. There were few spectators and frankly it was unfair that everything was being disassembled. If there is anyone that needs to see that 'FINISH LINE' sign, have that necklace & t-shirt it's those few that stayed determined and finished regardless. So, I say next year - don't forget those few determined folks that need the most support!
By: celeste j.
Posted: October 25, 2006
When can I sign up for 2007?
This was my 5th marathon and definitely one of my faves. Course was challenging, but not too bad considering it is in San Francisco! The only reason I give the course 4 stars instead of 5 is because I thought the section around Lake Merced was quite dangerous. Instead of having runners run along the paved trail that follows the perimeter of the lake, they had runners funneled down a narrow shoulder on a very busy street with cars whizzing by. Not sure if this can be changed next year, but I sure hope additional safety measures are included!
Otherwise, I thought everything was well-organized and done with class. Loved the finisher's necklace and the dry-fit Nike marathon finisher's shirt.
I also thought the post-marathon 'Nike Village' was perfect. Not too much fanfare and just the right kind of recovery foods (bananas, Luna Bars, Granola w/ yogurt). Same goes for the 'Expotique'....low-key and minimalist. But unlike others, I prefer the no-nonsense approach to the Expos and post-race festivities. Who wants to spend a lot of time on their feet at either of these events? As long as I can get in and out quickly with little fanfare, I am happy!
By: Susan P.
Posted: October 25, 2006
DISORGANIZED
This is my third year doing the race and I have to say that it seemed like the port-a-potties were WAY worse this year. 1 potty at the firt few stops, we've got women running this race. People stood in line for 15 minutes to go. The water stops were also horrible. No one was actually handing out the water at the first few stops, it was more like a self serve. It was a big traffic jam with people scrambling to grab their own cup and their pour their own water. I was pretty disappointed with the water stops. I agree with the comment below, what guy is going to wear a shirt that says RAN LIKE A GIRL. If they are going to allow men to run then they should have a decent shirt for them. Not sure that I'll do this race again even with the T&CO bling being given away.
By: Paula F.
Posted: October 25, 2006
Pretty scenery, rough for a man
I really enjoyed this marathon. It was my second TNT event & the scenery was lovely and the hills were not too bad. Training on hills over several months really helped. There seemed to be
plenty of potty stops along the way. We ran out of chocolates at mile 12 for the slower runners/walkers.
In addition, the lines at the expo were too long and the wait time was unbearable. The expo needs some major improvement. The only complaint I have is this: is this race for women ONLY or unisex? The 6% of men that entered were sorely out-numbered. Plus, not all men want a Tiffany necklace or a 'Ran Like a Girl' finisher shirt. Nike needs to decide if this is going to be an all women's race or a unisex race. Other than that, I enjoyed my whole experience.
By: Pam L.
Posted: October 25, 2006
A womens race needs more porta potties
For my first half this was great but the down hills were killers!!! Very well organized EXCEPT this is a womens race & there wasnt nearly enough porta-potties in the early miles. The necklace & shirt are nice. It was hard for spectators (especially if not from SF) to get to mile 6-9 to cheer you on. Very disappointing that Ghiradelli ran out of chocolate before we got to mile 11.5&. it was our goal to get to for the previous 3+ miles. Weather was beautiful, a great experience for my first.
By: Pam L.
Posted: October 25, 2006
For a womens race-need more potties thruout
This is my first half marathon & loved it, except the down hills are killers!!! Very well organized EXCEPT not nearly enough porta-potties for a race that has 10,000+ women involved. The necklace & shirt are great. It was hard for spectators (especially people not familiar with SF) to get in place from mile 6-9. Weather was perfect. Overall a good experience for my first half.
By: Karen C.
Posted: October 25, 2006
Ran like a Girl!
This was my first marathon and first with Team in Training. I hit the wall at mile 18-22. There needs to be more spectators or entertainment between these miles. Everyone I talked to said these were the hardest miles. Then I saw two people, a lady standing on the side thanking everyone for her life gift and another holding a sign that said 'Pain is only temporary, Pride lasts a lifetime'. I knew I would finish this race even if I had to crawl. I saw my daughter screaming and waving at the finish and that sealed the deal - I knew with absolute certainty that I had done more than run a race. I was helping to change lives. This was an awesome experience and I look forward to next year. Was everything with the race perfect, probably not but I didn't have anything to compare it to and I also know everyone will not like everything... Thank you Nike for sponsoring the event and supporting Leukemia and Lymphoma Society.
By: Beth T.
Posted: October 25, 2006
Good 1st Marathon
Overall, it was a good first marathon experience. The hills at the beginning were challenging and frustrating when getting stuck behind lots of walkers (walkers that should have begun the race at the back of the crowd not at the front which many of them did). I enjoyed the run through Golden Gate park. The weather was awesome. Aid stations were good with lots of fluids. I really like the music/DJ's-this helped :-) The expo was a bit disappointing. Although, I really enjoyed the one girl talking us through the course..her advice was awesome --> Break the course up into thrids...Run the first third with your head...run the second third with your personality and smile....and run the last third with your heart. I loved this advice and it helped me through the race! Thanks :-)
My biggest thing was how absolutely discouraging it was to have TNT people only cheering for other TNT runners. I agree with other peoples comments on this subject. It felt really weird and I kind of felt out of place not being with TNT. None of the TNT runners spoke a word to me the entire 26.2 miles. I even tried to encourage one of the TNT runners that was by herself towards the end of the race and she didn't even acknowledge me??? I just couldn't understand this whole phenomenon. I appreciate their fundraising efforts and the support that they offer their members but why snuff the other runners in the race??
Anyway, I enjoyed the experience but probably wouldn't run this one again.
By: michaela r.
Posted: October 25, 2006
what about eveyone else
I saved up over a year to do this , and was so disapointed about the way the non TNT members were treated , hello we did this for a good cause too!!!! Also what do you mean with spa , only if you were part of TNT or Nike run SF. NO MASSAGE for the rest . No Foil blankets if you came in later .
What happend to the post race food? The T- shirts were sold out in my size by friday evening Did you know how many people signed up?
The overall treatment was pretty sad , but the course great . I will try again because SF was the best . Better luck next time .....I guess
By: Kirsten R.
Posted: October 24, 2006
Great race- could use more water around lake
This was my very first marathon and I thought it was a fantastic race overall. The course was beautiful, hilly and challenging. I thought the people of SF were very supportive, although there were a few spots with little or no spectactors - especially around the lake. The lake comes at a crucial point in the race (mile 20-23 I think) and there was no water for much of it. We also ran alongside traffic. It was hard to stay motivated and feel good at this point with no water and no fans. Other than that - this race was very well organized and a great first time experience!
By: Jin H.
Posted: October 24, 2006
My experience
This is definitley a hilly course, I probably underestimated the course...but was still able to PR due to hill training, a must for anyone that considers running this. There were a ton of porta-potties at the beginning and at the end, but they were very sporadic during the course. Water stops were well stocked, but they needed more considering that is was unusually warm and sunny for part of the course. I think there was a period in the course where there wasn't a water stops for almost 3 miles. I also thought it was a little odd to pass out chocolate on the course (caramel chocolate at that), away from any of the water stations. I can't imagine trying to swallow chocolate after running double digit miles with no water. The expo was hardly worth it, and way too compacted to support the amount of people going through. It was like trying to work your way through wall to wall people. The sign outside of Niketown with everybody's name on it was a nice tough though. The finish was laughable, the only thing I saw being passed out were jamba juice and luna bars. If they were passing out anything else (bread, fruit) it was not in a location that was easily accessible by runners. We had bought shuttle tickets ($10 for runners, $15 for spectators) to get back to the start area, the buses were probably about a mile away from the finish, and they didn't even check your tickets so we probably could have jumped on without having to pay almost $60 to transport everybody. Unless you have a car, this is probably the only transportation you will find at the end. I had some friends that tried to take a taxi, and it took them almost 45 min to flag down one cab, and the ones that couldn't fit in the cab walked a couple of miles before they were able to catch another cab.
By: Jenni K.
Posted: October 24, 2006
Nike goes all out!
Nike does a wonderful job of putting on a marathon. I think they've gone out of their way to make everyone feel special, which is important, because this event attracts a LOT of first-timers. I love this course, hills and all, and everything was very well-organized. They definitely improved on things from last year as well. My only complaint was that they should have two aid stations in the Lake Merced loop. 2.5 miles is too far to go without water, especially that late in the race! Overall though, this is a wonderful race, and I would definitely consider doing it again!
By: stephanie f.
Posted: October 24, 2006
Beautiful course, needs organization
Course is gorgeous. That is the only reason I'd do it again. Hills aren't bad if you train for them. Everything else was poor. Should have more porta potties along the way. Finish food was irresponsible - bananas and one bottle of water. Sponsors also provide granola and broccoli (?! why would someone want broccoli after running!!). With a $90 entry fee, would be nice to have pretzels and/or cookies and electrolytes and more water at the finish. Friends could catch the bus to the finish only until 8:30 - meaning they would have to wait 3-4 hours for full marathon winners. Bus lines back to finish were horrible - maybe consider having a loop course in the future so buses wouldn't be required (I guess that means more hills, though) or end close to public transportation. Expo was a waste - just long lines for pedicures and massages (like I would've had to wait for over 200 people to get theirs before I could get one - and I was there pretty early), and Nike gear. Spectators were mainly TNT people, but they were great. I wasn't a TNT person, but got cheered on.
By: Karleen H.
Posted: October 24, 2006
If you want jewelry, you must do hills
This was my 2nd Marathon and I did both with TNT. While I loved the whole race weekend experience with TNT, I wont do this particular race again. I'm slow so I did the early start and missed all the prettiest parts of the course because it was dark. Plus, there were SPRINKLERS going off - and pointing right accross the course at one point. We had to go into the grass to get around them in the dark.
The course itself was much harder than my first for a few reasons. First, the hills. Second, the course entertainment could have been better. They did have some music stations but they needed more, louder, and more upbeat music to pull you along. Third, the spectators were very sparse in some areas. The organizers could make it easier for spectators to get to the more deserted areas so that racers can feel the energy. It really makes a difference. Fourth, the lack of bathrooms was a problem. There was one place on the highway where there was the first bathroom we had seen in miles and it wasnt even a race port-a-potty, it was a permanent structure - and the women's side was LOCKED so we had to use the mens.
The expo wasnt even really an expo. They told us about the free massages & manicures, but you had to take a number and come back a few hours later to see if it was your turn yet. And if you missed it, you lost your place. How hard would it be to have more than 6 manicurists there to service 15,000 women and give us a TIME to come back rather than a number? Of course Nike won't invite any competitor to their expo, but they really could have had more vendors there. Jamba Juice and Cliff Bar were the only ones. That's just not an expo.
I LOVE the necklace. I like the idea of a women's Marathon, but what DO the men do with their shirts and necklaces? It's fine that they let them run with us (some women had their husbands or brothers run with them), but have something they'll actually use as their reward for such an accomplishment.
By: pam c.
Posted: October 24, 2006
Worth it for the views....
I did the Half through Team in Training which is the best experience for any novice racer. However for doing numerous other events, here are my comments: 1)Walkers & slow paced folks must be separated at the start. Very unorganized and lots of walkers in the way in the first few miles. 2)water stations at mile 3 didn't have cups filled and ready 3)More free food has to be available at the finish line than yogurt with granola, jamba juice and broccoli salad. That doesnt cut it for full marathoners. TNT, however, had a great spread. 4)Expo is horrible for a first timer. One of the great things about big expos is you get to see what the running world offers for accessories and gadgets. Nike had one little table on the 5th floor you could buy your bodyglide at. 5)Nike website didn't post the finishing times for days 6)though hilly, course was beautiful. Downtown to Embarcadero, see the fog at the Golden Gate bridge, run up a hill for a mile into the fog, end up at the beach. 7)great finishers necklace and shirt. Felt bad for the men to get these.
By: Cynthia Gugg
Posted: October 24, 2006
Scenic, challenging, but needs improvement
The course is very scenic - gotta love SF. The hills can be a challenge, but I trained for them - just be very prepared. The aid stations didn't have anything to wrap my leg (I got injured) - at mile 17 they did nothing more than offer ice, but at 20 there was a doctor who tried to stretch it out for me. Tape or bandages might have helped. The Expo was worthless and not organized. Lots of port-a-potties along the course and I liked the staggered start (too many races are way too crowded to run the first mile). Like some others, I was not part of TNT and didn't get the usual cheers from spectators making much of it very lonely. Some of them would run into the race to see their TNT runner while stopping right in front of me! I was disappointed with the Tiffany necklace at first because it looked like it needed a picture of a Saint and request for charity donation, but it's growing on me. Didn't like that the 1/2 marathon & full marathon shirts were the same (slightly different wording) and we received the same necklace. I do appreciate the accomplishments of the 1/2 marathon runners (any runner for that matter), but it is in no way near the same as running a full marathon. As for next year? If Nike Women's 'Marathon' doesn't reward the 26.2 better, why bother with the full. There are better marathons. For a fraction of the training and half the race distance I can still get the same Tiffany prize and shirt.
By: Teresa Chavira
Posted: October 24, 2006
This race was great, with a wonderful view
This is a great race for women, and it was very inspirational; I like that it is a women's race. The t-shirts were great at the finish. The only problem: I was looking for more souvenirs to take home (men's and children's shirts). I would like to add that the walkers need to stay to the right, and need to be instructed of the "rules" before the race. But overall it was great!!!!
By: Toby R.
Posted: October 24, 2006
Spectacular Views
This was my first full marathon and I could not have asked for a finer city to run through. The sometimes-thick fog along the course provided a cool mist for running and the sights were fantastic. The hills were a welcome challenge and nothing like I had imagined. I'll be back for more.
By: Allison S.
Posted: October 24, 2006
Good, but 4th year could be great!
San Fran was my 6th marathon. I think for a fairly new marathon the organizers did ok. To make better:
COURSE - more toilets earlier in the course, especially first 6 miles where jitters/coffee/etc are hitting. Later many people are dehydrated and don't need toilets.
If you give Clif shots, have water to wash down! Open up the full lanes of blocked streets. Many streets were blocked off going one way, yet for that direction cones were placed to hold runners into just half of the blocked road. Why???
Pull the chocolate and animal cracker samples to after the race. Hardly anyone I saw was taking this food b/c it's too hard to eat while running.
Excellent job on the water/Gatorade stations - plenty of workers and cups. Wonderful.
The course was beautiful - one of the most scenic I have run. Loved that part!!!!!
Comment from my support people - DJ/Announcer at the finish line (male one announcing around 4:15 -4:45 finishers) was offensive w/ sexist comments, especially not fitting with Nike's views on strong, women. Not cool at all.
EXPO - terrible. I know Nike was the sponser, but could there at least be a few other companies giving away samples and info? I rely on the expo to buy gels, get info on other races, etc...EXPO gets 1 star only.
MERCHANDISE - Nike women's sizes are ridiculous. I am a fit, NORMAL weight woman and the XL size shirt is too small for me. I saw a lot of larger women on the course and fill bad for them b/c I know they could not wear their finishers shirt. Get REAListic Nike and design for REAL women, not stick figures.
By: Club RunSF Fan
Posted: October 24, 2006
Nike does it right!
Had a great race on Sunday. Nike treats its runners well. I had a wonderful time as a part of Club Run SF - Nike's FREE training group. That was the best part of the whole marathon experience. I met, trained with, and raced with people from Club Run SF and it was such a great feeling. Great job Nike!!! Way to bring another awesome event to the Bay Area.
By: Karen T.
Posted: October 24, 2006
Disappointed event........
Let's begin with the expo. Who needs all that pampering before you run? You need it after. What about gel and the latest and greatest products? Surely Nike has something new to offer. In addition, Niketown didnt have much of anything except for current marathon clothing to purchase. I would have loved to buy something that didn't have the Nike marathon plastered all over it. If you needed gel you couldn't find it in town. Either you went without it or had to drive 50 miles to find some. Really, explain the early start for only TNT? Although I am a TNT member, all should get that option that needs it. Or just start everyone at 5:30 and keep the race open until 1:30. That should be easy to fix NIKE!
Mile 16 was horrible for runners. They didn't know whether to go left or right depending on whether they were doing the half or the full. Several full ended up going to the finish line and had to turn around. Come on, can't that area be marked better. You had spectators telling the runner where to go and they still didn't get it right. The food on the course didn't exist. Around the lake area ran out of water and Gatorade. Help, this is a critical time. The last three or so miles along the water was brutal and boring. Keep spectators and people not running the marathon OFF the COURSE?
Finish line was very crowded. Not much food. Even TNT ran out of food. Massage tent closed early due to the large numbers of runners that needed help stretching after all those hills. Get real; you didn't know that people really wanted the pampering after the event! If you pass the pick up point around mile 18, then you are allowed to finish and should get your medal. You shouldn't have to argue after just completing 26.2 miles to justify your medal. That is insane everyone that finishes should get a necklace. Oh the necklace is the same for the half and the full. What is up with that? 26.2 miles are not different then 13.1? Everyone worked hard for what event they did. They should be recognized by that. Buses back to the hotels were really far away.
A lot of improvement needs to be made before I will come back. For Nike, this was a big disappointment. Men have a right to get a medal that fits who they are!
By: Val D.
Posted: October 24, 2006
Fun, fun, fun
We had a blast! The best scenic race! I think the race was well organized. None of us felt slighted. It was great that we women got so much attention in a race - finally!! (Sorry, boys, if you felt left out, but really, there are other races....)
By: Alix P.
Posted: October 24, 2006
Would love to do again!
Spectators and course management was fantastic. I said 'wow' over the course at least a dozen times, EXCEPT around Lake Merced-I hate to worry about traffic. Walkers were going three abreast and I had to jump up and down the sidewalk. Loved the finisher shirt and necklace. Would have liked a distinction between the half and full marathoners in the gifts. Also, coming from TNT, we worked hard to raise our money and the expo wanted to suck all we had left dry. Where were the little samples of stuff at: sunscreen, chapstick, Bio Freeze? Besides that, I would love to do it again!
By: Becca N.
Posted: October 24, 2006
WOMEN ONLY! GREAT TIME!
PLEASE keep this as a women only event.. I flew in from Boston to run with females only, and it was a GREAT experience! My favorite slogan was 'Run like a girl!' I think that was awesome! The Tiffanys necklaces at the end were REALLY something to look forward to. I'm not sure why a man would want to enter this event, but please don't change anything! The hills were great, and not too challenging, the spectators were awesome, and overall I had a wonderful experience! San Francisco is beautiful! See you next year!
By: Laresa M.
Posted: October 24, 2006
An OK marathon but not for a first timer
This was my first marathon (which I ran with TNT). My TNT experience was fantastic but I found the marathon a bit of a disappointment. The scenery was beautiful but some of the organization aspects made it less than what I expected. The line-up for the start was disorganized and everyone was left to put themselves in the pace areas. This resulted in slow people at the front creating log-jams. There is a reason why we are asked our expected finish time on our applications -- maybe the organizers should use this info!!! The expo was horrible and not at all like I had been expecting based on what other more experienced runners told me about expos. I think the marathon organizers still need to work out a few bugs. Loved the necklace and finishers shirt but thought it would have been better to give the guys a shirt that said 'Ran with the girls'. After all, they deserve some respect too.
By: Christina R.
Posted: October 24, 2006
AMAZING
This was my first race, and I have to say I could not ask for anything better in a marathon. There was so much support it was incredible. To the woman saying it should cater more to men, I could not disagree more. This is the Nike Women's Marathon afterall. It was empowering to women, and that is the way it should be. What a wonderful outlet for women to gain confidence and esteem. In a male dominated world, us women need things like this to come together and feel gooD. I felt that the men involved were proud to be a part of such a great event!
By: Valerie L.
Posted: October 24, 2006
Great, but challenging course
I trained with TNT, and had a great experience. Our coaches did a good job of preparing us, particularly for the hills. The volunteers and support staff were fabulous. Critiques: The expo was lousy, we had to walk about another mile to get to the return buses, and NIKE: get with the program, and offer products in sizes that REAL women can wear!
By: Linda T.
Posted: October 24, 2006
2006 POOR Organization
This was my third Nike 26.2. Totally slacked in organization at the start. The best music was on 4 at the base of the hill. But male cheerleaders doing high lifts, falling into path of runners instead of CHEERING runners on? Along the course, please remind walkers to keep to the right, especially before hills. Spectators were allowed to feed themselves at vendors and were taking up tables.
By: Sandra T.
Posted: October 24, 2006
Overall excellent, except for the walkers
Nike's organization of walkers caused hazardous running conditions for runners. The constant dodging around 7-10 rows of walkers caused many near falls and frequent stumbles for myself and other runners. I didn't see signs for slower traffic to be kept right until later in the race. The walkers should mandatorily be lined up at the end of the runners or have a different course, so they are behind the runners at all times.
The expo was also disappointing for the first-time marathoners that joined me. The hype for the event was just not there prior to the race for a race of this magnitude.
By: Elizabeth P.
Posted: October 23, 2006
Okay race, don't think I'd do it again
I was so psyched to do this race. I trained for it as my second event with Team In Training. HOWEVER, I was sorely disappointed. The expo was really crummy- long lines for the 'girly pampering' they advertised (massages were way short, and I never made it to manicures). There was not a whole lot offered at the expo either. Niketown was a MADHOUSE and was way too hot. I had to leave b/c I was getting nauseus being in there. As for the race itself, it was VERY poorly run. The start was TERRIBLE. I was tripping over walkers for the first 3 miles!! (No offense walkers!) They need to start it in waves! Also, there were multiple miles without mile markers, too few aid stations, too few port-a-potties, and not enough signage to point out where the halfers were distinguished from the whole marathoners. As for the hills, I remember the website advertising 'no cable car hills...'. Well, just because a cablecar doesn't actually go up that hill doesn't mean that there are no hills comparable to the cablecar ones. Hills are my strong point, but there were quite a few runners in my training group that were having to walk a majority of the way up. As for positives, the necklaces are beautiful, finishers shirts were really fun (drifit), and there was a lot of food and fun at the finish area. Overall, it was a senic run(for the first half.. the second half stunk). It could have been WAY better organized though.. go for an Elite racing event for your first experience with the marathon though...
By: Katherine H.
Posted: October 23, 2006
Loved it
This is the second year I have done this race and I love it. I really liked the finisher shirt saying "Ran like a girl" - it is the Nike women's marathon, and "Run like a girl" has been the major tag line for it. The only fault that I have with the race is that the expo is really weak.
By: Janis L.
Posted: October 23, 2006
I LOVED IT!!
I loved it. I thought the entire event was extrememly well organized. I plan to spend the weekend in the city at next year's race to benefit from all that is offered.
And, after reading someone's comments about feeling lonely if you're not with Team in Training, I say join TNT! I ran with them this year (and my prior 1/2 marathon) and they're an amazing group to train with. And, if you chose not to, then be proud of what they have accomplished in their fundraising and training efforts. Everyone is running for the same reason. This race is here to raise money for Leukemia and other blood cancers.
My one thought is that it would be nice to have the slower walkers stay to one side. I found myself skipping around some and fear tripping.
I loved most of the course (don't like running thru residential, loved the beauty, hated the hills, and loved the fog over and around the gg bridge. I know that everyone running with a camera and stopping in front of people to take pictures were able to leave with great shots!
By: Meaghan H.
Posted: October 23, 2006
Beautiful and challenging
I ran my first marathon last year with TNT; this year my sister and I tried this race out on our own. I felt last year that other TNT chapters were only cheering for their own teammates, and this race was worse in that I felt almost snubbed by the TNTers. After the half-marathoners split off there were even fewer non-TNT people.
Besides that, the course is really beautiful. Even challenging hill training in Alaska didn't make the hills any easier. But we were never lacking in aid stations and roadside entertainment. It was overall a fun experience and the necklace this year is cute.
By: lorna a.
Posted: October 23, 2006
difficult course but fun race
It was my first marathon and I had a great time and would do it again. I loved the course, weather was great, plenty of cheerleaders. Overall, my run went pretty smoothly from starting line to shuttle buses. It seemed like most stations were well stocked and frequent but there did seem to be a water station missing around Lake Merced.
I was a little bummed that my husband had to take the spectator shuttle to the finish between 7:30 & 8:30 a.m. but the course was laid out so he could walk to different points to cheer me on so it worked out OK. I loved the necklace and cute guys handing them out. I agree with the others - there was nothing at the Expo!!! I had driven down the day before to attend and it was a waste of time.
By: L. T.
Posted: October 23, 2006
Beautiful but hilly, feel the woman power.
A huge number of people and well organized consider the numbers. I only did the Half-marathon and was very glad I did because it got pretty tough towards the end with the hills. I wish the hill were in the beginning of the race when I was fresh -- but if we ran in that direction we'd be running into the sun which would be bad too.
With regard to the men it was billed as a woman's race and I really like that part of it because it didn't feel competitive, but supportive. But I heard one of the coaches tell a man as he got towards the finish that they had different shirts for the men that did not say 'ran like a girl'.
By: Bruce K.
Posted: October 23, 2006
Porta-Potties
It seems they had more toilets at the end. Maybe next year you can distribute some of those at the first three or four stops on the course.
By: Chuan G.
Posted: October 22, 2006
Well-run race; needs to be more friendly to men
This is the second time I ran this race. As last year's version, it was very well organized with no major problems. Just one observation: besides the famous necklace, this year's finishers get a shirt that says, "Ran like a girl," which I can't imagine any straight men would want to wear. As a married woman, I say let's be a little nicer to these good men who join us in the race.
By: Melissa Reynolds
Posted: August 08, 2006
Room for improvement
This was my first marathon and didn't know what to expect. I ran it with TNT, which is an amazing experience in itself. I was a bit nervous about the hills. The course turned out to be very pretty, although a bit foggy and I could not see the San Fancisco Bridge. The mile markers were off at mile 5 and 6, which was a bit nerve racking for me because I was trying to figure out my pace per mile. The spectators were great in spots and scarce is others (neighborhoods). It was so nice to run the last couple miles listening to the waves crash below. The hills turned out to be not so bad. You just have to train on hills. The expo absolutely sucked.
By: Chris C.
Posted: April 20, 2006
It Was An Okay Race for San Francisco
Well, as I saw someone say, be prepared to be in the minority if you are not with TNT. But you'll be in an even smaller minority if you are a MALE and not a TNT member. Being of the few guys in the race was fun - I have few complaints about it. The hills are ridiculously hard, even for a guy who is used to running San Francisco's hills. I can tell where people started feeling the pain at one specific hill in the Seacliff area. Expo totally sucked; not many useful things to do there, and you can't really get last-minute prep ideas like other expos. And the oxygen bar at one point? Skip that. The buses back were another point of contention. Long lines if you are one of the later finishers.
Other than that, people are great and the water stops were very well stocked.
By: Kathryn C.
Posted: April 18, 2006
Beautiful, but Tough
Beautiful but very hard course. Sponsors ran out of everything for runners (walkers started much earlier); only size large (?) shirts at the finish. Loved the men in tuxedos and Tiffany finisher's necklace. The course was boring for the last four miles. You cannot get enough hill training if you're from Texas for this marathon! Very proud that we finished! Expo was a waste of time.
By: Linda Miller
Posted: February 11, 2006
What a Tough Course
So beautiful. The hills are huge, the sites are incredible. It was a tough and fun course. Lots of course support, including fresh socks and blister Band-Aids. So well supported.
By: melanie c.
Posted: December 29, 2005
TNT WAS AWESOME
WOW!! Best one word to describe this as it was my first marathon. I decided to race with TNT because I lost my father last Decmber to cancer. What a tribute to my father. The course was beautiful, the hills kicked my butt but with the beautiful scenery the pain went away when you turned the corner to the next amazing site. This was an awesome way to see San Fran!
Nike did a great job and raised more money than I ever thought could be raised!
By: Erin J.
Posted: December 09, 2005
Lonely if you aren't with TNT
If you aren't going to this race with Team-in-Training then be prepared to be a minority. My friend and I didn't realize how big TNT was at this race and felt like outcasts. Most of the spectators were also with TNT and were only cheering for their TNT runners.
Also disappointing 'expo' with only Nike products available (as I had been warned). Nike had also planned poorly with the sizing of their apparel and had over-ordered the XS and S sizes and not ordered nearly enough M & L (those sizes were sold out already when I got to town Fri. evening).
Good temps though (but too much fog to see very far). The beginning of the course had great scenery, but the up-and-back at the end and loop around Lake Mercer were tough. I will probably do the race again though to get the necklace.
By: Anita Jackson
Posted: December 05, 2005
Wonderful first marathon
This was my first marathon and I chose one of the hilliest cities in the US! It was a wonderful experience... even with the hills. It was very scenic. I also loved the necklace! It would have been nice to get a medal also... even a cheap one... just to display with my others.
To work on: Not even enough potties. Come on.... It's a women's marathon. We need twice the potties! I stood in line over 10 minutes to go to the bathroom.
That being said, I hope to do this marathon again one day!
By: Anna Woerman
Posted: November 15, 2005
Challenging course-great necklace medals!
This course was very challenging, i ran fine the first half, and it wasn't the hills that were so bad, it was the psychological frusration of the course for me. While in Golden Gate park- running down the flat road- where you see everyone passing you the opposite way-'how far do i have to go till I turn around?' And the end, when you come out to the refreshing ocean air- and see the finish line, only to realize that you have to make a 5 mile u-turn to get there. But the Tiffany's necklace as a finishers medal was a fantastic idea- i wear mine all the time, and it gets peoples attention, so i am always telling them about TNT and how they can help. It was a good experience overall- but don't ask my knee the same question...
By: Coach Laurie
Posted: November 15, 2005
26.2 with a view!
Run like a girl at the women's marathon. Not only do you get a running tour of beautiful San Fran but you have the most gorgeous running weather. The course was so scenic I didn't even realize I was running a marathon until I hit mile 17. The best things about this race: The course (not that hilly), the Tiffany's necklace (and the gorgeous men in tuxedos handing you the necklaces at the end), and the weather. The worst things about this race: No race merchandise for purchase (slim to none), race packets were empty (you don't get your t-shirt until the end), and there was a water stop missing around Lake Mercedio!!!
By: Debra A.
Posted: October 30, 2005
Don't bother running this one (part 2)
There should be water and Gatorade stops on BOTH sides of the road. The course became terribly crowded at each stop.
By: Debra A.
Posted: October 30, 2005
Don't bother running this one!
Lousy expo; very few spectators and many weren't bothering to cheer; lousy post-race nourishment (who wants to drink green tea and soy milk after running for hours? Where's the orange juice? And ice cream FOR SALE?); lousy goodie bag (one bite-sized Luna Bar????.) Come on, Nike! You can share some of your mega-wealth with hardworking runners. How about free socks and free sweatbands that cost you 10 cents to make? The race was all about Nike marketing. It broke all the rules: new socks and chocolate during the race? Try NOTHING new on race-day! How about something other than more Luna Bars - perhaps pretzels or something else salty?
The course had some lovely spots - Cliff House, Great Highway - but other spots were disappointing. The hills made it a terrible course for first-timers (which I'm not). The hill at mile 24 was simply cruel. The online info was terrible; the map was unreadable; there was no info about how spectators could track runners to different spots; and the elevation chart had NO altitude guide! Fortunately, the post-race shuttles were relatively prompt. It's a shame this race was so disappointing because SF is a terrific city.
By: Sarah W.
Posted: October 30, 2005
I couldn't have asked for a better experience!
This was my first full marathon, and I am so glad I chose this particular race! The course was difficult, but the spectators, aid, and finisher's necklace made it more than worth it!
Most everyone has commented on the obviously wonderful aspects of the course - chocolate from Ghirardelli, Luna Bars and Clif Shots, Gatorade endurance formula, and the cell phone station. All of these made what is normally a difficult run much more bearable. I'm not gonna lie and say that this was an easy run - it WAS 26.2 miles with quite a few hills (although it was much flatter than the SF Marathon course). My goal was 4:20 and I finished in 4:05:06 - just goes to show that the hills are tough, but very doable.
I've run in 3 other major (13.1-20 miles) races this year, and this marathon was BY FAR the most elaborate, and, yet, the most organized of them all.
I hope to get the women of my family to at least walk the half marathon next year, and I will be there to run the full once again. I highly recommend it!
One side note: make sure that while you're chugging along, trying to just keep moving one foot in front of the other, you take time to appreciate the gorgeous ocean views while you run along the Great Highway. The waves were breathtaking, and it (almost) keeps your mind off how difficult a full marathon really is!
By: Karen D.
Posted: October 29, 2005
Great Experience
What an experience for my first marathon. Beautiful course - a little difficult to do that long stretch at the end. The first 15 miles seemed to fly by. The bathroom availability at the beginning 5 or so miles was pretty slim, and it was disheartening watching hundreds of people go by while you were standing in line for 15 or so minutes.
Nike did a great job pumping you up before hand with the expo and the fans were great.
By: Christina M.
Posted: October 29, 2005
Better for half marathon
I ran the full marathon. The course was beautiful and well laid out. The hills were all very manageable and I beat my PR by a full 20 minutes. HOWEVER, having the walkers leave before the runners was a huge problem. I was left running in the street with traffic several times when I came upon walls of walkers blocking the road. I could not get near the water stations for the first three miles. Let's not talk about the bathroom situation. For those of us who are not fundraising it's a bit like being a ghost runner. The crowds and TNT coaches did not call out unless you were TNT, which was a little disappointing. When you train that hard, it's nice to hear some encouragement. I would definitely do the half next year since the necklace is the same for half and full, runners or walkers. Overall a nice run.
By: maureen o.
Posted: October 28, 2005
Disappointing and somewhat dangerous
The race is chock full with beginners and walkers. The race organizers did not have a separate start for the walkers which created tons of logjams. At mile two, I fell after trying to avoid a group who stopped abruptly right in front of me. At the first aid table there was a line of women who had also fallen waiting to be treated. It was almost impossible to get through the crowds since there were a lot of women running in groups.
I was also severely disappointed by the expo.... The vendors consisted of one woman with a card table selling Gu. We were expected to do our shopping at NikeTown at above retail prices.
The finish line was also crowded and difficult to get through the walkers who did the half. When you finished you were dumped into a crowd of people waiting in line to pick up t-shirts.
The necklace was a nice touch. Everything else was lacking.
By: Katie T.
Posted: October 27, 2005
Good course, TERRIBLE finish area
Very pretty course - some hills but not too bad for a flat-lander.
However, the finish area was terrible - so bottlenecked and congested right at the finish line that you had to stand shoulder-to-shoulder in a big crowd, while people shoved to get their finisher's t-shirt, and the bag-check line was incredibly long (if you have friends who are meeting you at the finish, have them bring your stuff and skip the bag check). Just a terribly managed finish area overall.
FYI, the 2005 necklace design was a silver cut-out of a woman runner with a tiny swoosh on her chest. Reminds me a little of the woman on the mudflaps, but it's ok.
By: Tara M.
Posted: October 27, 2005
A great overall experience.
Overall I really enjoyed this marathon. The course was scenic and challenging, but not overwhelming. I was able to qualify for the Boston Marathon and PR'd by 40 minutes.
I was disappointed in the expotique and the 'goodie bags.' The expo was way too crowded and there wasn't really anything there. My goodie bag consisted of a course map, a Nike coupon and a sample Luna Bar. Where were the goodies?
The finish was too crowded as well and the line for the shuttle back to the start was so long that we walked a few blocks and took a trolly car instead. My $15 shuttle ticket was wasted.
I really appreciated all the spectators out there who cheered for everyone. I traveled from Austin to run this race and only had my boyfriend there to support me, so having strangers cheer me on as well was really awesome. I did find it interesting that the TNT people only cheer for their kind and would completely stop cheering as non-TNT racers ran by. Don't get me wrong, I think TNT is a great organization and a great motivator for thousands of people who would typically be intimidated by a marathon, and the money they raise for cancer research is wonderful. But as a non-TNT runner, it was discouraging to run up to a group of TNT spectators who were cheering loudly, only to have the fall silent as I ran by. I may not have raised money to get to San Fran, but I have on more than one occasion donated to help friends reach their fundraising goals.
Nike really goes out of its way to make this a marathon catered to women. This marathon is a must-do for every female runner. I love my finisher's necklace and finisher's shirt. The guys in tuxedos with little blue boxes at the finish was a nice touch. Considering the marathon is only 2 years old, I have to say the organizers did an awesome job. The few small kinks will work themselves out in the years to come and this truly will grow into a great race.
By: Thea M.
Posted: October 26, 2005
Nice, but lots of room for improvement
Pros: Nice scenery. Hills weren't too daunting considering it is San Francisco. Pretty sterling silver necklace from Tiffany. Enjoyed the refreshments (I really like Luna bars!). DJ stations were good for the most part. Wasn't quite feeling the DJ playing 'Slipping Into Darkness' at mile 23, but it was great to have music! Appreciated the free socks. Finisher's shirt was nice also.
Cons: Shuttle information inconsistent. Initially told we could get a shuttle from finish back to the start and then told it wasn't available at the expo. Also told there would be pace groups and this was also not available. Long lines at the expo. Nothing other than Nike gear and apparel available. (Although I thought this would be the case; it would have been nice to be wrong!) Expo overall was somewhat disappointing. Finish area was congested. Agree with a previous comment that support wasn't great if you weren't with TNT. This wasn't a problem for me but I know others that were bothered by it. Ending stretch was rather monotonous but knowing that you're close to the end keeps you going.
Overall it was a good experience but I wouldn't do it again.
By: Donna R.
Posted: October 26, 2005
Expected better organization
This was my 26th marathon, and this was my perspective:
1. It's a good thing they call it an 'expotique' and not an expo. Not at all what I expected.
2. The start was pure chaos. Two separate bag checks with 10,000+ people in between. I ended up at the one without a box for my bib # range. Thankfully, a race worker was there to take the bags for those of us who were at the 'wrong' bag check. There was no prior information on how bag check was set up!
3. I didn't run it last year so I can't compare the course. Everyone said this one was easier. I did enjoy the course, and the hills, though challenging, weren't impossible.
4. a) Mile markers did not seem accurate, and others around me noticed it as well.
b) Not all miles had clocks, or had clocks that weren't working.
c) I think I saw two clocks, two miles apart, with the same time. One clock was off by ~1 hour (reading 2:xx instead of 3:xx).
5. I thought the oxygen bar was useless. Maybe you have to breathe it for more than 1-2 minutes? The biggest break was that it was downhill after the 'oxygen.'
6. I would rather get a well-designed finisher's medal than the necklace.
7. I'm still waiting to see if they have my results. At packet pick-up I switched to use my own chip. I have emailed the timing company but as of today, I still don't appear in the results. Ironically, the switch was done at the 'Solutions' desk. Now I have a 'problem'. :-)
Somehow, with Nike as the title sponsor, I expected better. Perhaps that isn't fair? This race raised a lot of money for TNT and that's wonderful (I've never seen so much purple in a race before), but I think I prefer regular, mixed-gender marathons.
By: Jean c.
Posted: October 26, 2005
Great race - would have had more potties
I would have liked to have seen 4-5 potties in a group instead of 1 - some girls don't know how to go in 30 seconds. P.S. I ran the half.
By: allison s.
Posted: October 26, 2005
Fun Race!
This was my second time running the half marathon portion of this race. I thought the course was MUCH better this year. It was still a bit hilly but not as bad as last year. If the course hadn't been changed I most likely would not have done it again. I was also hoping that few other things would be changed from last year. The expotique is horrible. It is too small and there aren't any vendors there. I know Nike doesn't want the competition there and that's understandable, but at least sell things like fuel belts, gels and other things that they don't carry.
There were not enough port-a-potties a long the way. I noticed at some stops there was one port-a-potty and the lines were extremely long. The finish area was chaos. The bag check at the start and at the finish line were a mess. I picked up my bag and walked out. There wasn't anyone there checking to see if the bag I picked up was mine or not. I could have taken anyone's bag and left. I also think that they should spread out all the tents in the finish line area. It was packed in there and you could barely get through the crowd. The lines were extremely long for everything especially getting your gear bag. I think that this is a great race, good views of the city, the course is MUCH better and they have some great giveaways, especially the Tiffany's necklace. I do think though that Nike still has a lot of work to do so that this race runs smoothly from beginning to end.
By: Tracy S.
Posted: October 26, 2005
Happy that I ran, but won't come back
The course was challenging but not extreme. The scenery would have been beautiful if the fog wasn't so thick. I was passing loads of people during the first miles which was frustrating because that wouldnt happen if people lined up correctly. I thought that the race was geared towards the walkers more than runners. I think I ran an extra mile because of all the walkers 3-wide on the path I had to go around. Why start them at 5:30 and not tell anyone. The finish area was so congested you couldn't move. I couldn't believe you had to buy your own food, unless you felt like more Luna bars or you were with TNT. I think it was great that people raised so much money for cancer research but for those of us that just came to RUN the marathon it was disappointing.
By: Mark S.
Posted: October 26, 2005
Good course, poorly organized, great spectators
The course is great, hilly but very scenic. The spectators wore fantastic! Very few areas where no one was around. Lots of cheering and overall great support. Organization was a bit off. The finish area was a zoo. Not enough room for runners, family and spectators. Bag-check was a disaster with bags arriving after many 1/2 marathoners finished. Mile markers were off (no way I ran a 7.0 minute mile), timing results are off (my 1/2 marathon time was 24 minutes from my 10K split?), no clue when the race started because you couldn't hear the announcements, a second bag-check area at the start that was never publicized and no vendors other than Nike at the expo. Having said all that, I'm glad I went; I had a blast.
By: Michele T.
Posted: October 25, 2005
Simply Awesome
Words can't describe how amazing this race was. I enjoyed the course so much I wish I had run the full instead of the half. The weather was prefect for running and the views were breathtaking. I can't wait until next year.
By: Barbara S.
Posted: October 25, 2005
Great course, some organizational glitches
I agree with most comments, but wanted to add that for us slow runners (14 min mile) there were some glitches:
1. Not enough port-a-potties in miles 3-6. The 30+ at mile 14, after more than half the group split off, seemed excessive.
2. What animal crackers?
3. I'd rather have salt in later miles than chocolate. But it was a nice touch.
4. I wish the organizers would give some suggestions like walkers stay right, runners go left.
5. Mile marker for miles 4/5 messed up. Can't believe I ran an 18 min mile followed by an 8 min mile on the flats.
6. Spectators were awesome. I loved the TNT support (even though I wasn't with them).
7. Timing of event was nicely done. Start was well-organized by pace.
8. LOVED having my name announced at the finish! Nice touch.
7. When your finish time is 6+ hours there were no crowds and my bags were easy to find, but still long lines for massages.
8. Volunteers were great - plenty of water, bars and 'ade. I liked the cheer stations and the DJ's and wish there were more.
I'd do it again.
By: Kathi M.
Posted: October 25, 2005
I left my heart in San Francisco!!!
Wow, what a fantastic race. Go girls!! Everything was perfect. Course was great, weather was perfect and the spectators were awesome. The finish line was spectacular and the necklace is like a right of passage. Don't miss this one!!!
By: Maria L.
Posted: October 25, 2005
Beautiful, challenging course.
This was my first marathon, and what better place to do it than San Francisco? More organization/crowd control for packet pick up at Niketown - it was crazy! Nike also needs to stock more L and XL sizes for their shirts - the most popular shirts in these sizes were sold out by 2pm on Friday! The lines at the finish for pics and massages were too long - at least give us chairs to sit in while we are waiting (we're really tired)!!! Also, PLEASE give different necklaces for the half and full marathons signifying 26.2 or 13.1 - we earned it! I would definitely do this race again. TNT and crowd support was AWESOME!!!! The chocolate mile needs more creativity - how about a fountain of chocolate? The cheerleaders were a really nice touch. And more music would be great!!
By: Michelle B.
Posted: October 25, 2005
Much Better Than Anticipated
I was very pleased with the course overall - it was much more manageable than anticipated. It was very challenging, but there were great declines to make up for the tough inclines. The crowd was awesome!! The lake was demoralizing and the water/Gatorade stations and porta-potties were sparse in the last 6 miles, but it was not horrible. Overall, this was a great experience. The expo was nothing special, but the finisher's necklace and tee-shirt were great. This was an awesome first marathon experience and it makes me want to do this one again.
By: Karen S.
Posted: October 25, 2005
Hilly and challenging, but worth the effort!
I enjoyed the race. However, there were a few logistical errors. The 5-mile marker was off by almost a 1/2 mile; it was set up at about the 5.4-mile mark. This was a pretty major error. The hills were pretty brutal. However, it was definitely worth it when you crossed the line and got the necklace. Also, as a faster runner, I had to cross through the runners still on the course to get to the shuttle buses! That was very dangerous.
By: Elizabeth B.
Posted: October 24, 2005
Need more port-a-potties before full & 1/2 split
There were hardly any port-a-potties available before the 1/2 and full race split.
By: Vanessa W.
Posted: October 24, 2005
Absolutely Amazing Event!
This was my second marathon and my first Nike Marathon, and I thought it was a fantastic marathon. Beforehand I was a little nervous about the hills, since it is San Francisco, but if you've done any hill training it really wasn't that bad. The course, weather, and spectators were all incredible! My only complaint would be that the expo isn't that great; since it is sponsored by Nike, there are no other vendors there, and marathon clothing sold out very quickly.
By: Faye Ang
Posted: October 24, 2005
This will become a regular run on my calendar...
I ran the half marathon.
It's San Francisco, you know it will be hilly.
Corrals were handled very well.
Only one complaint: work out the bag check!!
By: Helene H.
Posted: October 24, 2005
Hilly but scenic course - worth it for the goodies
This marathon had a lot of great support on the course in the form of aid, nutrition, and other non-typical goodies like chocolate, free socks, animal crackers, and LUNA bars and CLIF shots. This course really caters to the runner. The scenery makes the hills well worth the effort. The NIKE signs along the way were inspiring and the digital timing clocks and big mile mark signs were great. The finish area could use a better 'flow' to it to avoid the mass chaos of fans and runners. Overall a great experience with awesome finishing incentives and really cool official marathon apparel from NIKE!
By: Average R.
Posted: October 24, 2005
Great cause, great course, great necklace
I had a great time. My only complaints are: the start was too congested. Perhaps walkers and half marathoners should have separate starts; I saw walkers as early as a half-mile into the run, and could not get into my pace until mile 5. Some of the water stops were in the MIDDLE of inclines... causing me to stop mid-hill to get water instead of running to the top of the hill. Finally, there was a LONG line to get our checked bags; if it had been warm and sunny, that would have been fine, but it was cold and foggy, and we stood in line freezing.
By: Brad L.
Posted: October 24, 2005
Great race. Poor for supporters after the race.
I loved the course and the race. I was able to PR and I was up front so that always makes you feel good.
I think the organizers really need to manage the after-race facilities to be more inclusive. My family came and could not enter any of the tents or pavilions, only participants. Nike and the finish line and others should have had something for the supporters of the runners. If they come to the finish and can only sit on a curb until you have a massage they get antsy. The crowded area between the tents was far too constricted. The other lanes of the highway should be used to allow more participating orgainzations to set up tents and to better treat the guests and non-participants. Yes it is all about the runners and walkers, but if others show up we should be welcoming and not treat them like outcasts.
In addition the announcers really should have made a special effort to call the finishers of the marathon, instead of calling the names of the middle-of-the-pack finishers of the half.
By: Corey F.
Posted: October 24, 2005
Great City to Run In!
This was my first full marathon. I thought it was well organized and not too hilly of a course. Great weather. Beautiful scenery. Plenty of water/Gatorade stops. Oxygen bar was AWESOME; wish there was one on mile 20! Crowded finish. Bad organization to pick up finisher T. Lines too long for massage.
By: Patricia H.
Posted: October 24, 2005
Beautiful and challenging course
The race course was beautiful, challenging and worth every ounce of pain and sweat. The pre- and post-race organization could use some fine tuning, though. The shuttles to the race were great, but why were there no free shuttles back to the parking areas? After you finish a course like that you don't want getting to your car to be another challenge. More visible race-day signage would have been helpful too.
By: Olivia L.
Posted: October 24, 2005
Course was beautiful but organization was lacking.
This is the second time I have participated in the half-marathon portion of the race. Since this was the second year, I expected many of last year's kinks to be worked out and although many were, there is definitely room for improvement.
PROS:
The course itself was beautiful (but hilly and not too much easier than last year despite the route change) and the weather was perfect! The necklaces are gorgeous and I like the shirts, especially since they had different ones for marathoners and half-marathoners! The music they had along the first part of the course was great.... I wish that could have continued into the second half but it was through residential areas. I appreciated that they had everyone line up according to pace at the start.... You were less likely to be stuck behind a lot of people that were slower than you. Also, plenty of porta-potties at the start AND finish!
CONS:
Not enough porta-potties along the course - only one here and there and each one with a LONG line. Bag check at the start was a mess and people with some number had to walk to a different location. Bag pick-up was also unorganized.... Bags out of order made it hard for us with post-race stupor to find our bags easily! I thought the 'marathon village' was too crowded as a whole.... Everyone was crammed in there and there were long lines everywhere, even to just get your picture taken! The expotique was also lacking, although I knew what to expect from last year. They had some great stuff like manicures and gait analysis but again, long lines for everything. They should also have race gear/items for sale, especially with so many poeple traveling from out of town or out of state who may not know where to go to get and Gu, water bottles, Glide, etc. that they forgot.
Overall I do love this race.... It's for a great cause and where else do you get chocolate along the course and a Tiffany necklace at the finish? Hopefully each year they'll be able to improve the organization!
By: Carol Pechler
Posted: October 23, 2005
Great: weather, Ghirardelli, necklace, shirt
Great, but the finish is too crowded.
- Put tents farther apart.
- For shirts, have those already receiving shirts exit on other side, not back to those waiting in line.
By: Marcie S.
Posted: October 22, 2005
a positive experience
This was my first marathon and I have to say it was an incredible experience. Being the first Nike 26.2, sure there were some things that could have been done better. But overall, it was great!
The scenery was spectacular. Never having been to SF before, this course passed all the high points. The weather was perfect. The aid stations were well placed (although it was a bummer that the chocolate was gone before we got to it). The spectator support was terrific.
Yes, the victory celebration left a lot to be desired. And the 'expotique' was not what it could have been. And yes, it was hilly, but what do you expect in San Francisco? Overall, I found it a great experience and I'm sure that Nike will only improve upon it in coming years. I hope to do this race again, myself. And after hearing my experience, one of my good friends is preparing to run the 2nd one (tomorrow) as I type this message.
As for the non-TNT folks, all I can say is, perhaps you ought to try it with us next time. TNT is an awesome organization raising a lot of money for a great cause. I've never done anything that gave me the same feeling of accomplishment and 'making a difference' as completing this marathon with Team in Training did. It is not about, as one person said, 'getting your family and friends to finance your vacation.' It is about saving lives.
By: Jane D.
Posted: October 10, 2005
thank goodness they are making changes....
I was very excited for this race but found myself very disappointed on race day. I agree with the comments about the expotique; it just fell short of expectations for such a big race. The course was pretty brutal. Yes it is San Francisco, and I ran hills every day during my training but, come on.... it was crazy!! The out-and-back at the end was the most painful part, running into the sun while watching everyone on the other side heading to the finish. Fortunately I think they are fixing most of these problems.
I would say to the poster who described TNT 'as asking friends and family to pay for my vacation'.... I have never heard such a ridiculous and incorrect statement. I feel pretty damn good about asking my friends and family to donate money to a cause that has helped keep my 5 year-old nephew alive for the past 2 years.
By: Erin McNees
Posted: August 03, 2005
Breathtaking views!
This was my second race experience. The course was hilly, which was challenging, so you felt like you really accomplished something! Running through Presidio was amazing, the entire course was shady and lush. The very beginning of the course was an enormous hill. When you finally reached the top, you realized you got to run on flat ground for about 1/10 mile and then went straight up again. Just when I thought I was going to give up, you come to the top and through a clearing is the most beautiful, breathtaking view of the Golden Gate Bridge! Along the way there were signs with 26 reasons to run and some were humorous, most were inspiring and ALL were entertaining! (Sayings like, 'I run because I can,' and 'I run to get a break from the kids,' and 'I run for the view,' just as you approach the Golden Gate.)
My family went out to cheer me on, and they followed along easily in a car. They got to see me about 8 different times on the course!
The expo was great, because I LOVE Nike, and they had body composition analysis, gait analysis, and pace bands which took into account the hills (they were right on, too!).
The finisher shirts were unique and trendy Dri-Fit, and instead of medals you got Tiffany's necklaces, handed to you by men in tuxedos! They really made you feel like it was an honor to 'run like a girl!' (Which was the motto of the race.) I have run 30 races, and 3 halfs since then, and nothing compares to the experience I had in San Francisco!
By: Laura D.
Posted: June 21, 2005
Tough race in 2004, very hilly!
Very hilly. Half marathon kept weaving in and out of the marathon making it difficult to run consistently. The course has been changed for 2005 and looks much better and easier (with less weaving in and out of the slower half marathon participants).
By: jim b.
Posted: January 18, 2005
Very disappointed they didn't provide medals
I'm very disappointed that they did not provide a traditional finisher's medal. Instead, they provided a very dainty necklace. This was the first marathon for many people that I know personally (men and women), and they were very disappointed. I've done 40 marathons and I still appreciate the medals I receive. It's the badge of honor that you get to keep your entire life. I was fortunate to finish second in my age group and thought they'd recover from the mistake on the medals, but was again disappointed. I received a key chain. Maybe my expectations of Nike were too great.
The course was very scenic, albeit difficult. The only downside to the course were miles 22-26 which was an out-and-back stretch on a road paralleling the beach. It was extremely boring and contrary to the rest of the course. There were a couple of places (around mile 14) where runners ran up on walkers and it was extremely crowded. They could have done a better job monitoring the course in these locations. The start/finish line (same location) were very well organized. Not much of an expo for a race of this size.
By: Geordie A.
Posted: January 11, 2005
Great first marathon
This was a really good first time marathon for Nike. The course is really pretty, and challenging, and well supported with lots of electrolyte drinks, gels, and chocolate at the 22nd mile. Plus, the finishing necklace and Dri-Fit t-shirt were a lot nicer than most of the large finishing medals and cotton t-shirts given at the end of marathons.
By: Kathi S.
Posted: November 14, 2004
Beautiful course, well organized
The inaugural Nike 26.2 was well organized and the course beautiful. The race catered mainly to charity runners, which should have been obvious to anybody visiting the website, so I don't understand the complaints about it. I am not a charity runner myself but thought it was great to see so many people of all ages and fitness levels try to make it for a good cause. The necklace is a wonderful idea although it is disappointing to get the same one for the marathon as others get for the half marathon. Only request for the organizers: Please post the race results! Three weeks later, they are still not available.
By: Barb M.
Posted: November 13, 2004
Scenic and hilly, nice necklace
This was my second marathon, and the course was beautiful, but tougher than was advertised. I was a non-TNT runner, and felt a bit invisible in the crowd of purple shirts. TNT is a great cause, but I would not recommend this race to non-TNT folks, as you will feel a bit like a second-class citizen.
The most annoying part of the entire race was the early start given to the walkers and slower runners. The 90-minute head start resulted in many of us having to weave our way through crowds of folks walking, chatting, and taking up the entire width of the road. It is hard enough setting a steady tempo up the hills without wasting energy going sideways to find an opening in the walkers. Some of them even acted put out when I asked to be let through. Please let everyone start early, or at least instruct the early starters to walk only 2 or 3 abreast and stay to one side of the course.
The last 5 miles were a killer, in spite of being the only significant flat part of the course. Making us run south for miles 21-23 while watching the runners coming back the other way made the finish more painful than it needed to be.
In spite of the issues mentioned, or maybe because of them, finishing this marathon felt like a real feat. I love the finisher's necklace. Beats another medal. San Francisco is a beautiful city, and we had a great weekend (though we skipped the post-race stuff). Hopefully some of the problems will be addressed for next year's race.
By: Kathleen R.
Posted: November 11, 2004
needs change
This was my first marathon and I was a TNT participant. To all of the anti-TNT people - excuse me if I raised $5,000 to be trained and flown across the country to participate in a marathon that is a fundraiser for TNT!
The marathon was also advertised as a way to encourage women's athletics by Nike. Nike needs to be better prepared. The expo, which was very small, was focused more on feeling pretty and the booths devoted to athletes were overcrowded with lines of up to 2 hours to talk to someone about shoe analysis or sports massages. (Remember this is only a 9,000 participant runner and walker half and full marathon.) The expo did not have much race-day wear or clothing advertising the race, seeing that they wanted you to go to Niketown. I didn't receive the shirt size I had requested on my registration form either.
The course was nice but the hills were brutal and made worse by the large number of people who were walking or the runners who could not run up them and had to walk up them - they blocked those people trying to run. At the course split for the half and full there was very confusing signage and mileage markers. The last 4 miles along the bay were awful. It was an out-and-back loop that never seemed to end and did not have good mile markers.
The spectators were very sparse in the popular tourist areas - Fisherman's Wharf, downtown, etc. (The town of SF didn't help either - the hotel workers were on strike and I was harassed during my entire stay at the hotel without full services but full price, of course.) The after-party was a disaster. The amount of money I paid for awful, cold, unappetizing food was a huge waste. I should have just planned a nice dinner. I didn't even stay for the concert which my friends told me was another huge flop.
It seemed like Nike had this well organized up until the day. Yet, the course was much more difficult than they advertised, the food stops were empty even for those at a very reasonable pace, and there was much confusion at the finish line as to what to do next. The biggest disappointment, seeing that this was my first marathon, was that there are no pictures of me crossing the finish line or right after. All of my friends have this from their previous marathons but not this one that had so much hype. I have a nice necklace and an oversized shirt as the consolation prizes. I am glad that the money we raised is going to a phenomenal cause but I don't plan on running this again.
By: Jennifer R.
Posted: November 09, 2004
Disappointed with Nike
This was my 1st marathon and being from the Bay Area, I was prepared for the hills. The course was beautiful. Nike could have been a much better sponsor. The expo was disappointing, not too many freebies. Nike sold out of all pre-race clothing very early. Aid station with bananas were non-existent and we REALLY needed them! Good thing my husband was there at mile 20 with a few to share with fellow runners. Only finisher t-shirt available was a large. I'll never wear it. Overall, disappointed in Nike as a sponsor, most aid stations were well stocked and crowd was super. I would do this again.
By: Tknesha B.
Posted: November 09, 2004
Glad this was my first marathon!
I loved this marathon. The course was more challenging than what the description on Nike's website led me to believe. I think that the marathon went through a great deal of the key city sights and I appreciated that since our stay was relatively short.
The Expotique was fairly nice; I was looking forward to an opportunity to get the 'stuff' offered at traditional expos, but I did receive a wonderful massage and a gait analysis that I was pleased with. I love all things Nike so I was grateful to receive a coupon for Niketown! It would have been nice to see products of other vendors though.
I plan to do this race next year and hopefully for years to come. I am sure Nike will work some of the kinks out as time goes on.
By: David Leech
Posted: November 04, 2004
Please change the expo & the course
The 'expotique' was super-hyped, and super-tiny. Left you feeling, 'is that it?' It was pure and simple a way to funnel as many people as possible into Niketown and Macy's. Can you buy those $1 throw-away gloves in Niketown? Can you, heck. Choice of vendors? No way.
The course - The hills through Cliffside and the presidio were actually wonderful as long as you had trained properly. The bad, bad part was the 4-mile out-and-back at the end. Horrible, horrible. Please fix.
The bananas, power gels and chocolate had all run out by the time I came through... needs fixing.
The money raised through the marathon - $10 million to Leukemia & Lymphoma Society... thank you, thank you, thank you.
By: Rachel McKinney
Posted: November 02, 2004
Nice day, challenging and scenic course
This was my third marathon, and by far the best course. The hills were challenging, but added to the San Fransisco experience. While I enjoyed the run, the organization of the race was not very good.
This race was publicized so much and everyone kept saying how great a job Nike would do, but to be honest, they did a very poor job. The expo was only Nike products, no other options were available. They ran out of power gel, chocolate, and bananas before I got to those aid stations, and I wasn't in the back of the pack. Basically the only aid was the endurance drink and water. Once I did finish, I expected to receive the size medium shirt that I had put on my registration, only to find out the only size left was large.
Oh, and I don't want to forget the horrible celebration party afterwards. The tickets were 38 dollars and it was a complete waste of money. There was one buffet line, with cold, square pizza, hard and stale tortillas with fatty chicken, and nachos. No drinks were provided for free, not even water. When I asked the workers for a cup to fill from the water fountain, they were very rude to me. Plus, there was inadequate seating. Half of the people there were forced to sit on the floor, which after running 26.2 miles is quite difficult. They even ran out of food by 6:30, and dinner was supposed to end at 7:30. Very few people stayed for the concert, since everyone was so disappointed with the celebration.
The marathon itself was a nice marathon to run, but maybe next year Nike will have its act together a little bit better.
By: mary d.
Posted: November 01, 2004
Nike should have done better
We expected more of Nike!
No expo except the opportunity to shop at Niketown. Several that I talked to planned to buy gel at the expo - no luck and had to wait until it was provided on the course for them - much too late!
Pre-race information was very poor - website looked good but did not have much info and was poorly organized. I still can't see exactly how many participated - just have to take the claims of the organizer as valid. One of our group wanted to do the early start as she had heard about the option from a TNT person - but could find no info on it! As it was, the (very expensive) busing system required us to be there at 5:30, anyway.
One person remarked that they felt invisible as they were not TNT - I would agree. Actually, the only spectators on the course appeared to be TNT - in the city there were none and absolutely no news coverage. Also - the necklace and given as finisher awards were the same for the half and full marathon - shame on you Nike! The necklace was also generic - no year!!
Initially, Nike indicated that they HAD to allow men - then decided to welcome them and then actually gave awards in (I think) the same number as the women. In terms of awards, it appears that they mixed the early starters with the official starter for awards - also a very non-standard practice as a fast runner would have done much better with the early start - not having to deal with the walkers and having the course to themselves. Of course, the website had no information as to the 'rules' and did not say what awards would be given, to whom, and how deep...
As a non-TNT runner, I found them very annoying on the course - many coaches were following runners on bikes on the course - riding back and forth through the other runners giving food and water to their runner. This is clearly a safety hazard and in violation of all normal race standards. Seems to me that a runner should not be out there doing a marathon if they cannot carry the food and water they require or cannot go the mile between aid stations by themselves. Don't even get me started on the walkers 6 or 8 abreast blocking the runners! Also - promised bananas and chocolate stops were 'out' long before the middle-of-the pack runners came through.
Finish food and support were also poor - I have never had to pay for a glass of soda at the finish of a run! It was pretty demoralizing seeing all the TNT runners in the 'special' tent with normal race refreshments while the 2/3 of us not on the 'team' had to feel lucky that we'd tucked a little emergency cash in our pockets. Yes, I COULD have done the TNT thing - but I don't really think it is right to ask my friends and family to finance my vacations for me - I give to local charities.
None of the three in our group would run this again or recommend it to others. The company who put the race on billed themselves as experienced and Nike certainly should know how to do this stuff - they all looked like amateurs to me!
I do know that these races are difficult to stage - I am an RD myself. However, with the resources of Nike and the very high registration fee (plus the $15 bus fee), they did have the resources to put on a first-class event - too bad they missed the mark.
By: Amy W.
Posted: October 30, 2004
Great opening act... Kudos for Nike
Seeing how this was the first marathon put on by Nike, I think they did a tremendous job. The overall organization, the 'Expotique', the course (come on people, this is San Francisco, one city infamous for its hills), the finish.
True, this was advertised as a women's marathon, but according to some people who work for Nike, they had to open up registration to men as well due to some legal thing. Still, there were far more women there than men.
As for the expo, I really enjoyed it. Manicures, facials, massages, yoga and stretching. Free stuff like gift cards to Niketown, free socks just for trying on shoes, gait analysis, pace bracelets. Personally, I think there was more useful running related stuff here then at the usual gel and running shorts sale tents that most races have for runners. Granted manicures and facials don't count, but why not be pampered? Running 13.1/26.2 miles the next day certainly calls for a little pampering.
My only complaint is that Nike sold out of almost all the race related T-shirts and jackets. They should have known that with nine thousand people coming in to San Francisco that people would be buying like crazy. A major company like that should know better.
I definitely will be back next year to do this race. Perfect running weather, great course, great hospitality, cool finisher's shirt and necklace, why not?
By: Kamille Z.
Posted: October 29, 2004
Organization was lacking.
This was my first marathon. The website downplayed the hills, stating 'no cable-car hills.' It was very hilly, going through the Presidio twice. Those hills seemed to go on forever. I don't mind a challenge, as long as you know what you're getting into. This marathon is so heavily tied to Team In Training that you almost felt left out if you weren't in purple. The course seemed filled with TNT people, and constant cheers for 'Go Team'.
The 'Expotique' was really just a way to get people into Niketown to buy Nike products. There were no other vendors at the expo. The organizers really hyped up the PowerGel, bananas, and Ghiradelli chocolate that would be available along the course. I guess the half-marathoners got all that, and maybe the faster marathoners, but there was no chocolate, bananas or PowerGel to be seen when I got to it. If they are going to hype it up, they should have enough for everyone.
Also, by the time I finished, they only had large and extra large t-shirts. They ask you what size shirt you want when you register, so why can't they plan for the correct sizes?
I will say, the scenery was fabulous, and overall it was a fun time. Also, I love the Tiffany necklace, and at least Tiffany planned well, because they seemed to have enough for everyone.
By: Sheila Maxwell
Posted: October 28, 2004
The best I've done
The race was well organized, especially for being the first annual run. The 'Expotique' was pretty good (not anything compared with the LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon)... definitely targeted women (manicures, facials, hairstyling, etc...).
The course was beautiful... I saw most of the 'must see' tourist sites for San Francisco. Some pretty big hills, but not too many that it wasn't doable. You run through the the Golden Gate National Park. The last 4 miles runs along the ocean coast.
The weather was perfect for running... I was neither too hot nor cold.
The race medal was a Tiffany's sterling silver 'Nike 26.2 Finisher' necklace (delivered by guys in tuxedos at the finish). The race t-shirt was a Nike Dri-fit short sleeve.
About 9,000 runners (200-300 of them men). 3,200 runners were TNT members (they raised $10 million for the Leukemia and Lymphoma Society).
There were a pretty good number of spectators, and LOTS of porta-potties.
A race I would recommend to anyone.
By: Jan M.
Posted: October 26, 2004
Nike, please change the start!
The expo was small and had more manicure, facial, and massage booths than it did race gear.
The start of this race was set up so that the slower participants (those who would need more than 6.5 hours) went out first (5:30 a.m.), followed by the faster group at 7:00 a.m. This meant that the fast runners had to weave through thousands of slow runners and walkers, which was a handicap to them, as well as a potential danger to the slower participants from fast runners approaching them unseen from behind. The organizers should rethink this type of start.
The course was pretty, but the hills were huge. They promised no 'cable car hills' but the only reason these weren't cable car hills is because they lacked tracks!!
Post race refreshments were okay. They did give out a nice water bottle with Power Bar Recovery drink.
The medal was a 'Tiffany's necklace'. A small sterling silver drop engraved with 'Nike 26.2 Finisher'. It did not have the year. There was nothing to indicate that this was the inaugural event. The finishers' T-shirt was a nice dri-fit shirt, but I thought is wasn't very pretty.
By: Jane Baldwin
Posted: October 26, 2004
NIKE does just about everything right!
I have been running organized events for the better part of seven years. I have completed 13 full marathons and countless half marathons. As I reflect on the entire execution of Sunday's inaugural event the NIKE 26.2 jumps straight to the top of the list!
Not only was the event extremely well organized, the extras that NIKE and the sponsors provided for the participants went above and beyond anyone's expectations! A stylish dri-fit finishers shirt available in your choice of men's or women's sizes! WOW, a shirt that you can actually run in!
A few more of the many thoughtful extras...The bus transportation easy to get to, with pick up at the end close by, and each station well marked...The coat check station...The gel station on the course with large signs stating the flavor available giving every runner the chance to pick up his/her favorite...the chocolate station where each runner was treated to a mini Giradelli chocolate bar...the ped station with blister medicine and a fresh pair of socks available for those in need...the recovery drink provided by Power Bar served in a souvenir water bottle...and the most generous gift of all...the absolutely beautiful Tiffany's sterling silver necklace!
There is only one small suggestion that I can offer for next year. PLEASE offer the NIKE race gear for sale on-line at the time of registration! I arrived to the expo early (11:15) on Saturday morning and was disappointed that Niketown had already sold out of their entire supply of 26.2 back packs and sweat jackets!
Oh, lest I forget, the course was so very beautiful; I 'almost' didn't mind the hills! And, the hundreds (if not thousands) of volunteers are to be commended not only for their help but also for the extreme patience exhibited by them, especially when dealing with thousands of women!
I will be back next year!
By: AJ P.
Posted: October 26, 2004
A wonderful tour of San Francisco, however...
A marathon for women? Nike tried to sell it as such, yet men ran it. The sea of purple-shirted runners & an extraordinary number of coaches on the course aside, it was a great race. Too bad it wasn't REALLY for women. Beautiful, challenging course; insulting 'expotique'; lovely necklace--should have had separate ones for the half marathon finishers. Has potential, but likely to cater to charity runners. If you can stand that, do it for the SF tour and the finisher necklace. Note to TNT: DO NOT LET YOUR COACHES ON THE COURSE PAST MILE 26.