By: Grahak C.
Posted: October 02, 2018
Great Race Plus You Miss Work
Do yourself a favor take the day off and compete in this race. It is always held on a weekday so you'll likely have to. The course is scenic. Shaded. Aid stations every mile, fully stocked. You get a shirt, medal, meal and snacks upon finishing all for around $60, less if you get in early. It is well organised and a special event. It is also a Boston Qualifier so there is plenty of people pushing the pace if you can latch onto them.
By: Sanjay Mohanta
Posted: August 28, 2018
123rd marathon! A highly underrated race
The race features 9 loops around Rockland park. Every mile features flush toilets and fully stacked water stations. It includes salt, seaweed, Cytomax, fruit,etc., food and massages free to runners as well as a communal water hose for runners. Cheap entry fees and free parking. Great to meet and talk to runners from all over the world and the course is not hilly at all. Volunteers are very supportive and friendly. Worth doing every year! A great city since it is only at 35 minute bus ride to Manhattan!
By: Larry Wilson
Posted: August 24, 2018
Good Running Experience - recommend do it
My 13th marathon in 12 years, started marathons at age 50, (NYC, Phil, DC...) This year ran 3 marathons under 7 months and just completed Sri Chimnoy at Rockland. Very nice, special event for my running experience. The participants were from a variety of world locations and all very courteous, polite and inspiring for the experience of running. The hosts were especially nice and attentive to a somewhat holistic feeling about the completion. For me, somewhat special and different was running 9 laps with a mix of super fast and pleasure runners on the track continuously from laps 1 to 6 (2.7 mi per lap totaling 9 laps). Again, very cordial and courteous participants. But, socializing while running not typical probably due to language differences - not a lot of aimless gabbing and yakking it up was refreshing, imo. The track was ideal for my pleasure training, asphalt w/ some packed dirt on sidelines when needed. Scenery was very nice variety of lake and woods, some breezes and some August sun spots. The day was kind to runners this year (2018), not brutally hot, but definitely humid. For ~2.7 mi. laps you will always be running with others, no floating off or zoning out in a marathon of your own. I typically prefer the zoning out solo space. But, this event was so very nice in atmosphere and participants cordial politeness it was a rare nice shared event to experience. You can run fast if you are prepared. You can simply enjoy if open to this style of running ! Thanks for the experience Sri Chimnoy and fellow participants from all over the world. Kind Regards, Larry
Running laps (9) is reminiscent of racing 2 miles on a 1/4 mile track,... back in the days when a 1/4 mile race was a challenge. Flat, nice mix of asphalt and some packed dirt if release needed. Plenty of opportunity for water, bathroom and special food treats along the way. Caution or reminder is that this race is in August even though good mix of shade and open sun exposure.
By: Sanjay Mohanta
Posted: August 30, 2017
104th Marathon! A race for everyone!
This is one of the best races I have ever done. There were aid stations every mile and they were well stocked. You had free parking at the start line, flush toilets along the route, a warm vegan meal at the finish line, aid stations stocked with Cytomax, water, bananas, m and ms, sea weed, watermelon, etc., Free massages as well as free showers (garden hose!). A very low cost race in a town that is only a 35 minute bus ride to Manhattan. The languages you hear on the race course are from all over the world and everyone is very friendly. I will do this race again!
By: SteelTown R.
Posted: August 31, 2016
Excellent, low-key, old school race.
This is a very well organized, low key, old school (manual time keepers), inexpensive, scenic race. The course is about as flat as you can get, there are multiple proper bathrooms on course, shower facilities for post-race cleanup, full vegetarian buffet post-race, well stocked aid stations (better than big city marathons), finish line photos (with free download), excellent medical attention on hand. Slightly quirky and charming, I have found other loop races to be somewhat boring at times, but this is a fantastic race. A quick note that it can be deceptively hot/ humid during the race given the time of year and one can easily dehydrate without realizing. Excellent race for a late BQ race if you can swing running a marathon on a weekday (when the race is typically held).
By: Mike D.
Posted: August 27, 2016
A lovely small race
Since no one has reviewed this race in two years, here are my comments. I ran this race in August 2016. It is run in a beautiful state park 9 times around a 3 mile path circling the lake. It is flat and shady. The last lap is slightly shorter. It is hard to believe you are 30 miles from Times Square. The area is lovely. Not much fan support except at the start that you pass 9 miles. Volunteers are great with musicians. There are not many nice August races and this is one to consider.
By: Eliot W. Collins
Posted: August 28, 2014
Nice Way to Spend a Weekday in August
This race is pretty much the same every year, and so is my review:
This was my ninth time running this race. The course is a scenic, three-mile loop around Rockland Lake. Part of the experience here is that everyone involved is extremely enthusiastic and supportive of everyone else. Although it is hot, no one complains about the heat.
Most of the runners were followers of Sri Chinmoy, and they came from all around the world to run this race. There were also several 50-State Marathoners and Marathon Maniacs who apparently came here to run a race in New York other than the NYC Marathon. I also saw many of my local ultra-running friends, who, like me, will show up at any long race that is available.
Some traditional features of the race were missing again this year. No one was reading inspirational sayings. The sitar player had been replaced with a woman playing the banjo.
I look forward to returning for the tenth time in 2015.
By: Rob Albano
Posted: August 26, 2013
A great event for my first marathon.
Back in May, I realized I was doing similar training to when I was preparing for a collegiate cross country season. However, I finished my 4 years of eligibility last year, so I decided that I needed to big a race to concentrate on. I've always been a lover of high mileage training, so I felt finding a Marathon in late August would be perfect. I had averaged about 90 miles a week for 5 months.
The only marathon that I could find in this time frame was the Self-Transcendence Marathon. Luckily, the race was only 45 minutes from my house in North Jersey. The 7am start was just early enough to avoid any horrible summer heat. Luckily, the weather on race day wasn't too bad (temperatures in the low 70s, dew point upper 50s/lower 60s).
The course, albeit a 3 mile loop, was gorgeous. Mostly shaded, a nice breeze coming off the water, and a plethora of supporters everywhere. I especially liked the random band and/or music players scattered about the course. The aid stations were extremely helpful as well, and well-positioned about every mile.
I was worried that having to constantly lap runners would be an issue, but I had a pair of lead bikers that cleared a very nice path for me. The runners being passed were also extremely supportive, many cheering as I ran by. It was hard not to enjoy this marathon. For about 21 miles or so, I really was enjoying it. I faded a little in the last 8K, but I still finished in just over 2:31, falling just short of the race record and a very satisfying debut at this distance.
After crossing the finish I had many options as far as post race refreshments went. I even got a very nice 30 minute post race massage. The awards ceremony took place later on, with an interesting format. Only age group awards for given (top 7 under 50, and top 3 50-59, 60-69, 70-79). There were photographers about, and I'm looking forward to the race and post-race photos. The race organizers even encouraged my girlfriend to get into the awards ceremony pictures when I received my trophy (a very nice one, might I add).
Overall, this was an excellent first marathon. I will most likely be coming back next year if training goes well.
By: Mel B.
Posted: August 25, 2013
fun fast and weird
I love this run! Big weird fun. Tons of food and support. Love and inspiration abounds. Super flat, well supported, non-competitive. You can park, grab your number, pee, and be at the starting line in ten minutes. Get cheered on by guys with sitars and strange beautiful drums. These folks really are in it 'for the marathon of life.'
By: Bill B.
Posted: August 23, 2013
A well organized and very flat small marathon
Small and inexpensive with a blazing fast course it is a shame this is not in November. Then again in November they'd get too many runners to be able to be the race they have. Aid stops total 3 but since you do 9 laps you see them every mile and they were well supplied at all times. Wish it had been 50 degrees not 70 and climbing, but a nice experience and one I will go back to.
By: Fighting Illini
Posted: September 23, 2012
Friendly
I ran this marathon for the first time in 2012. The course is a ~3mi loop, flat, fast, and mostly shaded. Extremely helpful: there is a fully stocked aid station (water, cola, salt/seaweed, watermelon, chips, candy, etc) at every mile! Since it is a loop, some runners set up their own 'stations'. The scenery is nice enough - it does feel a bit long around the 7th loop, but at the same time, the familiarity of the scene makes it very manageable! Runners and spectators (most are Sri Chinmoy followers) are very friendly and supportive during the race. Parking is easy; note that there are multiple parking lots so some may be a bit of a walk to the starting line. This race was on a Friday, so the nearby showers (open-air at swimming pool facilities) were helpful for those who needed to go to work. No race-day registration, so sign up beforehand. Registration includes simple cotton tshirt and simple medal. In summary, this marathon is great in its simplicity, course convenience, and runner-friendliness.
By: Eliot W. Collins
Posted: August 26, 2011
Nice Way to Spend a Thursday in August
This was my sixth time running this race. The course is a scenic, three-mile loop around Rockland Lake. Part of the experience here is that everyone involved is extremely enthusiastic and supportive of everyone else.
Most of the runners were followers of Sri Chinmoy, and they came from all around the world to run this race. There were also several 50-State Marathoners and Marathon Maniacs who apparently came here to run a race in New York other than the NYC Marathon. I also saw many of my local ultra-running friends, who, like me, will show up at any long race that is available.
Some traditional features of the race were missing this year. No one was reading inspirational sayings. There were no sitar or violin players. There were no groups of women singing.
Despite this, I look forward to returning for the seventh time in 2012.
By: Eliot W. Collins
Posted: August 26, 2010
Nice Way to Spend a Tuesday in August
This race is exactly the same every year, and so is my review:
This was my fifth time running this race. The course is a scenic, three-mile loop around Rockland Lake. Part of the experience here is that everyone involved is extremely enthusiastic and supportive of everyone else.
Most of the runners were followers of Sri Chinmoy, and they came from all around the world to run this race. There were also several 50-State Marathoners and Marathon Maniacs who apparently came here to run a race in New York other than the NYC Marathon. I also saw many of my local ultra-running friends, who, like me, will show up at any long race that is available.
I look forward to returning for the sixth time in 2010.
By: Grannie Annie Singer
Posted: August 26, 2010
Around Rockland Lake... "a few times"
Old time running of marathons is what one should expect doing this marathon. I live half-an-hour from the lake, so this was the ideal long day training for my upcoming New York Marathon. All marathons needs are met. From 3 hours to the promised 7, we had food, bathrooms and support, all of which were exceptional. Music at different miles was soothing. Since it is 3 miles around a lake, this is a 9-lap race... so if one is a slow marathoner, there is always another runner nearby. Great enthusiasm by support of organization..
By: Matt R.
Posted: August 24, 2010
Unique and Fun. Great End of the Summer Marathon
I ran this marathon for the first time on August 24, 2010. I saw it listed on the calendar and was surprised and intrigued that it was on a Tuesday. I figured it would be a nice way to cap off summer training. My plan was to use it as a training run, but I knew I would push myself to run the whole thing, which I did.
The weather was perfect. After a brutal, hot, humid summer, the day was cool (mid to high 60's) and cloudy. Could not have asked for better August running weather.
This marathon is small and there's no stress. I pulled into the parking lot at 6:30 a.m. (for a 7:00 a.m. start) picked up my number, changed, stored my bag, visited the restroom, and headed to the start. All very smooth and easy.
Be aware: the run is really 9 loops of the lake, since the starting line is down the path a bit. There were three aid/water stations and some interesting spectator support around the lake. Drummers, singers, and a poet who was reading verses from Sri Chinmoy. ("When we are propelled by the power of inner faith we can do the impossible.") Be sure to Google Sri Chinmoy and do some reading about the organization before you run this race. All were wonderfully supportive and I was glad that I had some understanding going in.
The course is flat and pretty. There were just enough interesting things along the way to make each loop go quickly. I was concerned that going around so many times would be boring. It wasn't. In fact, I found myself thinking in terms of laps rather than miles. The finish line seemed closer when I told myself "three laps to go!" rather than "nine more miles."
I recommend this marathon for anyone looking for a fun, low-stress, end-of-the-summer run.
By: Annette W.
Posted: September 06, 2009
A great change of pace
I ran Self-Transcendence to check off New York, as this was my 23rd state. (I am also a Marathon Maniac.) What a blast this race was - so different from my other marathons. The park was beautiful, with deer in the woods at the start, and the lake was full of swans, egrets and lily pads. The race had a very international feel, and the people were vigorous supporters of their various teammates. I stayed at the Super 8, and while it was not that posh, the staff were very welcoming and helpful, even from behind the bulletproof glass in the outer lobby! The best part of the night before was being clued into Tarantella's, a gem of an Italian restaurant. We arrived after 11 p.m., hungry, and were told the only sitdown place to eat in Nyack still open would be Tarentella's. I am not kidding when I say that it was hopping. This has to be the town that does not SLEEP; folks were coming in and out the entire hour we were there. The food was EXCELLENT and the young waiter was silly and personable.
By: Martin R.
Posted: September 03, 2009
A very useful training
I ran this race as a training run, and found it useful. Because of the relatively late start (7 a.m.) for a summer's day (which was warm but fairly low in terms of humidity), the final 10K sapped me, and I didn't run a PR. Nevertheless, the run was scenic, the course was flat, and the competitors were friendly. I would recommend it.
By: Eliot W. Collins
Posted: August 26, 2009
Nice Way to Spend a Tuesday in August
This was my fourth time running this race. The course is a scenic, three-mile loop around Rockland Lake. Part of the experience here is that everyone involved is extremely enthusiastic and supportive of everyone else.
Most of the runners were followers of Sri Chinmoy, and they came from all around the world to run this race. There were also several 50-State Marathoners and Marathon Maniacs who apparently came here to run a race in New York other than the NYC Marathon. I also saw many of my local ultra-running friends, who like me, will show up at any long race that is available.
I look forward to returning for the fifth time in 2009.
By: Dave J.
Posted: August 25, 2009
Flat, Fast, Fun Weekday Run!
I set a PR today on a beautiful course around Rockland Lake. What can be better than a Tuesday-morning marathon?! There were swans on the lake, bright sunshine, and these really cool Eastern European and international runners to chat with on the course, and before and after the race. Those guys run some incredible distances, and I dabble in the ultra world. :) Today was tons of fun for me, and I set a PR. The three-mile loops are great!
By: brendan d.
Posted: August 25, 2009
Another Enjoyable Self-Transcendence Marathon
This is my second Self-Transcendence - I did it last year also - and again I enjoyed the experience. The runners and all of the volunteers were so friendly. Yes, it features nine loops, but I personally do not find this boring, and it helps me break the marathon down.
Again, thanks to the organizers for a well-planned race. I will be back next year for my third in a row.
By: Eliot W. Collins
Posted: September 02, 2008
Nice Way to Spend a Friday in August
This was my third time running this race. My only complaint is the finisher's medal that I am too embarrassed to show to anyone (same as in 2007). I especially enjoyed the meal that was served at the conclusion of the race. I look forward to returning for the fourth time in 2009.
By: Jim C.
Posted: August 26, 2008
Expect something different here.
The course is very pretty, shaded in large part, with great folks helping out in all aspects of the operation.
The track is dead flat, which most folks like. I have never run a marathon with so many laps and found one problem. I needed to be able to tune out the fact that I was seeing signs proclaiming "mile 22" or "mile 24" when I was still working on mile 6 or 7, wondering if I would ever get there. It took some mental discipline to stay focused. I will be better prepared for that next year. This is the marathon world's best-kept secret. Count me in for 2009.
By: Nathan S.
Posted: August 25, 2008
Great for a first-timer
I'm a first-time runner who signed up at the last minute.
I had run in a huge 10K before, with lots of concerts/entertainment going on for runners, and a small 1/2 marathon with nothing but aid stations (and no fans) along the way. So I wasn't sure what to expect.
The course was beautiful. One thing I really liked, and absolutely recommend for slower, first-time marathoners is the circuit-style race. Mentally I was able to take it in 1.5-mile doses. Around mile 20 I was getting tired, but was able to suck it up and finish in 5 hours.
It was a bit demoralizing when I got lapped by the leaders in my 2nd lap, but then I remembered that it's my first marathon, and the goal is to finish. When the first girl lapped me in the 3rd lap, I started to wonder what was going on, until I started lapping walkers during the 3rd lap as well.
Along the way there was a guy yelling Sri Chimnoy sayings, a violist, a group of girls singing and playing drums, and lots of aid stations. I got a kick out of the guy reading the sayings - picture yourself around mile 20 and as you run by a motivational announcement, "The only thing holding you back is you." Pretty cool.
Food was good after. Sodium pills are handed to each finisher. The medal is a bit cheesy - a sticker on a piece of plastic on a rainbow colored ribbon - but I suppose it will do.
Seemed like there was a lot of first-time marathoners here. Also a lot of foreigners - Germans in particular.
I too saw the guy wearing the shirt proclaiming that he was born in 1932. I lapped him once, and the poor guy sounded like he was born in 1932 too - grunting, huffing and puffing, but working hard to get to the finish line.
I may be back for this next year. A bus to NYC from DC through Boltbus is cheap; it's the car rental and hotel that added up. Maybe if I could find a partner to run it with...
By: Frank S.
Posted: August 25, 2008
This was my first marathon - wonderful experience
I am so glad that I chose this marathon as my very first marathon experience. I am now quite happy that I was not selected for the NYC Marathon. I was just in awe of the entire experience. Wonderful organization, and wonderful people all around from the volunteers to the organizers and participants. Everything was well marked, from the entry to the parking field, to the registration area, to the start. As long as you knew the lap you were on, the miles were very clearly identified. When I saw the baggage area with backpacks placed in plastic bags so as to keep them dry on the damp/wet grass, I knew these people had their act together. My only negative in regards to the course (4 stars instead of 5) was the last approximately 150 yards to the finish, which took us off the very nice asphalt paved pathway that we were on for 26-plus miles and onto thick, long, heavy, damp GRASS, which I feel cost me my goal of a sub-five-hour marathon.
By: Aubrey S.
Posted: August 23, 2008
My third STM, and I will be back there in 2009!
For the third consecutive year, two friends and I headed up to Rockland State Park near Nyack, NY, for this small, rather unusual marathon. The race is produced by the followers of Sri Chinmoy, a self-proclaimed spiritual guru whose international practice involves a lot of meditation and striving to transcend the physical through feats of endurance. Uh, whatever, but this is a well run, interesting marathon. Those who really want to guarantee self-transcendence can run Chinmoy's 3,100-mile race in Queens; runners go around a city block for 51 days. Chinmoy died last year, and this was the first marathon held without him. We all were unsure about how much of the race we would run. I planned to run 15 to 17 miles as a training run. The weather was absolutely PR perfect at the start, cool with a low dew point. Though the sun would heat things up later, the course had plenty of shade. Parking at the start was easy, bib pick up was quick and painless, and the back of this year's t-shirt read "In life we must never give up! Acceptance and self-transcendence should always remain Our motto. - Sri Chinmoy"
The marathon course consists of 8.75 laps on a flat asphalt bike path around a beautiful, 2.96-mile lake with reeds, ducks, and swans. The course is well marked, with fairly accurate mile markers, but you do have to keep track of your laps. This race is not certified, not a BQ course, and it's on a Friday morning, so it attracts a smaller number of runners than it deserves, given the course support and dedication of the race director, not to mention the course and its proximity to New York City. This year, there were fewer runners than I've seen in the previous two years - maybe 350 compared to 800 last year - probably because Chinmoy died. Death has a tendency to reduce one's popularity. However, because there is a fully stocked aid station every mile (water, sports drink, bananas, watermelon, bagels, sandwiches, pretzels, seaweed, and Coke), plenty of park bathrooms as well as porta-potties on the course, and the race is cheaper than most if you pre-register, it is a fantastic opportunity to run a supported training run and have some fun at the same time.
As always, this race has a very international flavor to it, with many participants coming from Europe where Chinmoy's organization has a large following. I heard a lot of runners speaking German, but I also heard French, Italian, and some Indian languages being spoken. And again, there was a mix of body types and age groups, from the lean competitive runner types to heavier and older runners like Dr. Roy, whose bright yellow shirt proclaimed that he was born in 1932. I liked being able to see the lead runners so often on the lap course. Supporters not only ran the race, but quite a few cheered alongside the course, chanted, or played instruments, and they were out there next to the course for at least the entire 4.5 hours that I was there. The conch shell blowers and drummers were missing this year, but there was a great violinist, an accordion player, and a sitar player who gave an Austin Powers feel to the run. New this year was Poem Man, who stood behind a box in front of marked "take one," filled with one or two line poems and recited his poems for the runners. I grabbed one, number 44,530 according to the number in the upper corner, as I went by on one lap; it read "Aspiration/Has to be dynamic/And not lethargic." I thought of that SNL skit, Deep Thoughts, by Jack Handey.
I really intended not to run more than 17 miles here at a slow run pace. However, there's something about running laps in such a tranquil setting that is absolutely hypnotic, and in what seemed like no time at all I found myself at mile 20 and still feeling ok. And at that point it's too easy to say, only 6 left, just finish up, they have a really cool-looking medal this year, which is what happened to me.
As I ran through the finish line, a sweet grandmotherly-looking lady handed me 4 little white pills (think grandma's saccharine tablets), which I swallowed without much thought (except one pill makes you larger, and one pill makes you small...). I sure hope they really were salt pills, as the woman said when she handed them to me. The round part of the medal was a bit flimsy this year, but the ribbon was rainbow colored. The post-race food looked good too, though I didn't stay for the BBQ. My friend finished this marathon with a great 40-minute PR. I highly recommend this marathon to anyone looking for a low-key race, or a marathon to use as a training run.
By: Brendan d.
Posted: August 22, 2008
very enjoyable marathon
I have to say I really enjoyed this marathon. I decided at the last moment to do it and everyone involved with the race made me feel very welcome. This was a very pretty course. I kind of liked the idea of the eight-plus laps because mentally it broke the marathon down, and to me it did not feel as long. The race began right on time, which I like. The only negative thing I had for my day was the girl lying face down just off the course, close to the start area, who was having a great sleep. It made me tired and jealous every time I passed her. I truly had a great experience and will be back next year.
By: Lee F.
Posted: February 27, 2008
Run this one; you'll have a good time!
Race started late due to the late arrival of the of Sri Chinmoy. I understood that he always started the race. It was going to be his 75th birthday the following week. Many laps around the lake, with each mile marked. Heavy rain for awhile that shorted out my cell phone and ended calls to my wife during the race. Laps allowed you to store a bag with cloths and food at the start/finish - nice. I liked the seaweed and tea that were served on the course, a nice change from sports drinks and gel. Good race for slow people like me. Great food at then end - I especially liked the German potato salad.
By: Perry W.
Posted: October 16, 2007
A Different World, So Close to Home
This one was unique. Close enough to New York City that several buses full of runners arrived from the city, yet it was like running in another country. The very nice run was secondary to the cultural experience.
A fantastic course, consisting of 8 laps through alternately open and wooded park area, around a scenic lake. There was plenty of food and drinks, as the many volunteers always offered water, cola or "energy" at the twice-per-loop water stations. I passed on the many offers of seaweed, heeding the advice that while running a marathon is not the time to try a new culinary experience.
I heard a lot of different languages among the runners, and, on the few occasions that the language I heard was English, it was heavily accented.
The volunteers and runners were polite and cordial, though not necessarily friendly. The check-in was efficient. The medal was fine, the t-shirt interesting, though not of a material that will hold up for a long time. The post-race picnic looked nice, though I did not stay for it.
The nearby Palisades Mall boasts a huge variety of restaurants and kept the family occupied during my run through the park. My only complaint is the accommodations - no fault of the race organizers. The room at the nearby Best Western was dark, dirty, smoky, noisy and tiny. But, at least it was expensive. Although hard to fathom, the Super 8 across the street looked worse.
There are not a lot of August marathons in the northeastern United States, and this one is a gem. It is held on a Friday, so it does not take up a weekend, too. I had the experience of seeing Sri Chinmoy and am sorry to have heard of his passing only a few weeks later. I hope to run this race again, and I hope the Sri Chinmoy organization will keep the races going.
By: Eliot W. Collins
Posted: September 27, 2007
Nice Way to Spend a Friday in August
This was my second time running this race. Since I knew exactly what to expect, I have no complaints, except for the finisher's medal that I am too embarrassed to show to anyone. I especially enjoyed the meal that was finally served at the conclusion of the race. I look forward to returning in 2008.
By: Marc K.
Posted: September 11, 2007
Peaceful and Relaxing
The Self-Transcendence Marathon is run by the Sri Chinmoy and approved by the NYS parks. The race is run around Rockland Lake in Rockland State Park in Nyack, NY just north of the Tappen Zee Bridge off Route 9W. The commute is easy from NYC (maybe a 1-hour drive with no traffic since it is early morning).
The race itself is 9 laps around the lake (asphalt road). One lap is about 2.96 miles. It is mainly flat with a slight incline that is not that noticeable. The park is beautiful and scenic with some animals visible. (I saw 2 deer off the path calmly grazing.) It can get boring to run around the same course multiple times but you are never alone.
The race relies on the honor system. There are no timing chips and there seems to be no one recording how many laps you have accomplished, though the fast runners are guided by cyclists. For us slower runners it is more for personal honor and integrity to finish by the rules. Since the race is run on a Friday morning in late August, it can get very hot and humid as it was this year. The temperature reached about 80 when the sun came out, but it was quite humid. The atmosphere is very relaxed and calm. Along the course there a 3 water stations on every loop. The stations are packed with water, sports drink, watermelons, bread, Coke, M&Ms, seaweed and other foods. The volunteers were great, and along the course there were a few members of the Sri Chinmoy either chanting, playing instruments or singing, though the gentlemen banging the drum towards the end of the loop needed more practice. Food after the race was plentiful, but a little scarce for the slow runners at first; then more food suddenly arrived including a goody bag (juice, donut, cookie, nuts, etc.) for each runner and a full hot meal selection about 6 hours after the race started (pasta, vegetable, hot dogs, rice, etc.). The distribution of the hot food was separated between men and women; I assume that was a function of the Sri Chinmoy organization and one should respect there beliefs. Again the people are great and the race is unique.
The only disappointments were the race shirt and medal They gave out an ordinary cotton t-shirt; they need to upgrade to a runner's shirt. The finisher's medal seemed generic - a sticker with the date and race name placed over a generic medal seems unfeeling to the runners.
All in all, it is a nice marathon to try and if the weather cooperates you can have a great time. Peace to all.
By: Jeff L.
Posted: September 10, 2006
Very nice - maybe not for everyone
The course is a flat as you could possibly hope. There is nothing resembling a hill and barely anything that is even an incline. I personally liked the multiple-loop course, but I understand how some might hesitate. It gave me a good chance to compare my condition at each point as the race progressed.
As noted above, the rain was incredible. It was unrelenting. I did Hartford last year, which had terrible rain, and this was worse, without question. Add to that the fact that there were tornado sirens blaring, as well as consistent thunder and lightning, and it really had a negative affect on my race. Up to 20 miles I tried to keep a positive mental state, but it just never ended and I lost it for the last 6 miles.
The water stations were plentiful, and it was impressive that they were manned as well as they were, given the rain. I would have preferred to have Gatorade rather than the "energy drink" that they provided. I was unfamiliar with it and hesitated using it as I had not trained with it.
All in all, I would do this race again. But, I hope, with better weather conditions.
By: Maurice B.
Posted: August 31, 2006
that's a real one
A race full of human warmth, with thousands of smiles. I felt a little bad for all the people I "lightly" elbowed (sorry guys!) because of all the lapping. But even though there's no chip timing, this race is definitely PB worthy.
Should you run this one? Answer: read the comments from "A.S. from Montclair."
By: Aubrey S.
Posted: August 26, 2006
A gem of a race and a great experience!
The STM is produced by Sri Chimnoy, a self-proclaimed spiritual guru whose practice includes lots of meditation and singing, and focuses on achieving self-transcendence through striving to reach higher goals. Or something like that. The Sri Chimnoy Marathon Team sponsors regular fun runs for his followers in places as far away as Australia. For those who really want to guarantee self-transcendence they hold a 3,100 mile race. Runners do 5,649 laps on a half-mile course in 51 days!
The STM in Rockland Lake State Park was almost too easy to find. I was able to park very close to the registration area. Even though I hadn't pre-registered, the volunteers were accommodating, and I was able to get a bib number by 6:40 a.m. There were a well-organized baggage claim area, adequate bathroom facilities and porta-potties. About 800 runners lined up at the start and we set off to run 8 loops plus 2.7 miles around the 2.9 mile lake in Rockland Lake State Park. The course is very flat with a wide asphalt path. A dirt path runs along the asphalt one. There were three aid stations along the three-mile loop, all very well-stocked with water, sports drink, Coke, juice, and food like water melon, bread, gummies, and seaweed (I didn't ask). Volunteers were plentiful.
Before I did this marathon, I had a hard time believing I could run a loop 9 times and not go insane. But it was wonderful. After the first loop, I knew what to expect on the course, and what to expect at every aid station. Most of the path followed the lake, where swans floated along, ducks swam, reeds waved in the mist - beautiful scenery. The course was well marked with mile/lap markers, which were at first a little tricky to figure out but I got the hang of it.
I was impressed with the variety of people at this race. First, it had a very international flavor to it, since many Sri Chimnoy followers are in other countries. I heard runners speaking German, Russian, French, Czech, and some Indian languages. Second, there were many different running types. A fair number of the lean, fast marathoners, also quite a few older runners. One man who looked well into his 70s had run 908 marathons. Many heavier types. But everybody looked very focused and committed when they ran (and when you run a 3 mile loop for 26 miles, you see everybody).
At mile 6 or 7, it began to pour! I'm talking heavy, drenching, all-out rain. An hour later the thunder and lightening started. I half-expected the race to be called off, but it never was. It probably rained hard 75% of the time I was on the course. But it didn't bother me. I started reading the quotes on the t-shirts of runners around me. Practically every other runner in the race was wearing a shirt with an inspirational quote by Sri Chimnoy. Most were along the lines of "the only perfect road is the one in front of you," or "self-transcendence is eagerness in action." Everyone was just so upbeat, it was actually hard not to be. Even when my running shoes were soaked, and squeaked with ever step.
I found that knowing the course inside out gave a powerful psychological boost because I knew every landmark that told me I was close to the finish line. The guy playing the sitar on the course (when it rained, he wrapped it up and started chanting instead). The guys blowing on the conch shells and playing the drums. These girls who stood alongside the path and chanted.
The volunteers at the finish line and the plentiful post-race food and drink were wonderful. It was a first marathon for the friend with whom I ran this, and he also had a great experience here. The STM is definitely on my list for next year. The course is not currently certified, but I was told that it should be certified in a month or two. So I expect that next year's event will be better attended with many BQ hopefuls.
By: Michael O.
Posted: August 08, 2006
truly enjoyable experience
My wife came along with me to this marathon. We were surprised by the relaxed atmosphere of the race and the support runners received from the organizers and sideline people. She is not a runner and placed her chair just off the running path and gave encouraging words as I passed, and handed me drinks to keep me hydrated. She was my support crew.
The water stops were plentiful and restrooms were along the way if you needed them. The post-race party was unbelievable. Lots of different foods were served and available. I am registered and hopefully will be doing the 2006 marathon. I am hoping for a similar experience. I was very surprised when I took a trophy in my age group. And a big one at that.
This is a marathon I certainly would tell people to take time to make the trip to do. Fortunately it was a clear-weather, friendly day. People are afraid of summer marathons because of the heat. It could have been a scorcher. Let's hope the weather is clear again this year.
By: Raymond D.
Posted: February 09, 2006
I really enjoyed the marathon; this was my first.
This was my first marathon. This is a flat course, a 3-mile loop. I really like that there was plenty of water and food at about every mile. This is a marathon that I would do again.
By: Roger H.
Posted: September 06, 2005
Most pleasant marathon I have ever run!
This was my 105th marathon so when I say it was the 'most pleasant marathon I have ever run', perhaps one can appreciate that I speak from a substantial base of reference. Also, using 'pleasant' to describe any marathon is new to me. But, honestly, it's the only term that fits!
I knew little about the Sri Chinmoy organization beyond being aware of the ultra ultra long runs they support and there really isn't much on the marathon website nor the Sri Chinmoy organization site which tells you, so here is just what I experienced:
First, nearly everyone there was from outside the US, very congenial...and patient! The race was due to start at 7:00 AM but at 7:30 we were still at the starting line with no indication what we were waiting for. Now in any other race, this would have led to mayhem but the majority of the participants apparently knew that we were awaiting the arrival of Sri Chinmoy himself. Mostly, they meditated or spoke quietly among themselves and this set the tone for the entire event i.e. we are here to partake in an athletic endeavor, a harmonious experience with our friends on a beautiful day so, relax and go with the flow!
Sri Chinmoy arrived at about 7:30 with absolutely no fanfare and proceeded to meditate, then spoke a dozen words, meditated once again and then, from somewhere, came a voice saying 'Let's go now'!
This race is eight and two/thirds laps around a beautiful three mile lake with aid stations at every mile.
They were bountifully stocked with everything one could want including fresh fruit and cold, sliced watermelon!
Moreover, there were groups of lovely young ladies seated on the ground next to our course by the lake singing a cappella (chanting sort of) which was just hauntingly beautiful. Others were playing flutes or a form of drum.
The sum of all this is that the event took on a far less competitive, less stressful atmosphere. Furthermore, we did the nine laps without chips or even anyone checking off our bib numbers as we progressed. This was certainly the honor system at work and is just another example of a mindset that encourages one to enjoy the experience, not burn yourself out!
Bottom line, if you want to set a PR, you could probably do it on this flat course, but I doubt your inner runner would drive you to do it! Oh, BTW, I should add that I did win my age group, despite my relaxed effort and received an astonishing three foot tall trophy!
It's a totally different experience, great for anyone who realizes there should be a time to smell the roses, even in a marathon. On top of that, it's run on a Thursday so you can be home to mow the lawn on Saturday!
By: terry k.
Posted: August 29, 2005
best day of my life
My first marathon, so the loop was perfect - got to see my family every 3 miles. Not too many people around, and everything you needed, they had. They were the best.
By: Michael O.
Posted: August 29, 2005
I enjoyed the experience/probably return again
As a daily runner and this being a summer marathon, it could have been a hot, hot, hot humid day. I did not expect the weather to be so perfect. My wife (she did not run and was a spectator) and I enjoyed meeting people from around the world. I had heard of the Sri Chinmoy races, but never experienced them myself, until this marathon. I was using this marathon experience not only as a marathon distance run, but, if I did not get to complete the distance, as a long run for the upcoming NYC Marathon in November. I truly enjoyed the run and the experience. I did not push my limits and finished feeling strong and in great spirits, and to my surprise took a trophy in my age group. I will probably return next year.
By: Christy L.
Posted: August 28, 2005
Nice peaceful race, lots of international runners
A good run. The course is 8 2/3rds loops around a beautiful pristine lake. There were lots of international runners; seems that I was one of the only English-speaking people there. Thus, I didn't get to talk to that many people during the race... not that they were being unfriendly, just that the didn't speak English. Well stocked w/ water, energy drink, bananas and chips. NO GU. bring your own if you want it. An interesting touch: just before the race, Sri meditates for the crowd.
By: Eric K.
Posted: August 26, 2005
Wonderful event all-around
The organizers are to be commended. The volunteers were extraordinarily kind and supportive and the availability of medical help and food made this a great event.
By: Jamie Booth
Posted: August 11, 2005
Not bad if you don't mind laps
This was my first marathon, and what attracted me to this particular race was the course being continuous laps around a beautiful scenic lake. I was unsure of how I would do for my first marathon, so I liked the comfort of knowing I would be passing my bag, which was full of any items I thought I may potentially need or want (Band-Aids, knee support, new socks, drinks, etc.) over and over.
The course was easy, flat, on a paved bike path. After the first four laps, it gets a little mundane (and dizzying) to run the same course over and over. The staff and spectators were great. The food and drinks available during and afterwards were spectacular. It is put on by a large group, therefore everyone knew everyone, and I being not apart of that group, knew no one.
Today, after having run two different and exciting marathons since, there would be no point to run this race again, but it wasn't a bad experience.
By: Jeff P.
Posted: August 25, 2004
Impressive Event
I am training for the Chicago Marathon, and used this race to do a 23-mile training run. I was skeptical, especially when everyone started praying at the starting line. But I've gotta say, this was a really pleasurable experience. Running nine times around a lake is sorta dull, and the caliber of competition here is pretty low. But the organizers miss no details--medals, great food and volunteers, lots of water. I wouldn't come here looking for a PR, and you might go crazy by loop #7. But in all seriousness, they run a fantastic event.
By: Sanjay R.
Posted: March 26, 2004
Great course for recreational marathoners
I am a marathon runner from New York City and was looking to run a good, well-monitored course for my first marathon in 5 years. I had run on point-to-point courses before and found in some cases, especially in small races (less than 1000 runners) that the aid and support was inadequate for medium-paced runners. Those races only had water/electrolyte fluid stations. The unsponsored races did not have any food stops!
The race at the lake was quite enjoyable for me. The 3-mile loop was long enough to make counting easy (8+ laps only to count) and short enough to make you feel like you were making fast progress on the course. The aid stations were unbelievable - with cookies, chocolates, bagels, chips, fruit, and even seaweed!
I know from past races that once the faster runners finish, most of the supplies aren't replenished and the support factor decreases. This race, however is a great one for 3+ hour marathoners. The crowd is really supportive - there are some 200 helpers which is amazing for such a short race.
The race results are posted quickly. There is a post-race feast. I should say that the course seemed a bit difficult for the 2:30 marathoners because there are quite a number of runners on it. After a few laps, people tended to clog the road. But, there was a couple of lead bikes who did clear the course quite effectively.
The race is definitely worth doing, especially for people who want to run a very organized, well-staffed on a nearly perfectly flat, fast road loop.
By: Matt Boulton
Posted: March 22, 2004
A long day for me, but well worth it
I'm a member of the Canberra, Australia branch of the Sri Chinmoy Marathon Team. I came to New York to participate in the Self-Transcendence 3,100-Mile Race (also held by the Marathon Team), which is probably the longest race in the world, and definitely the longest race over a measured, certified course. So the marathon, held 2 weeks later, was essentially a warm-down for me. Don't get the wrong idea, I'm no legendary runner, I am simply inspired by events that push the limits of human endurance.
As the 3,100-Mile Race is held on a half-mile loop around a concrete city block smack bang in the middle of Queens, over a duration of 2 months, I certainly did not find the marathon's 3-and-a-bit mile loop around beautiful Rockland Lake boring! And as it turned out, I was out there longer than almost anyone. I had mistakenly thought that my recent ultra-marathon experience was a great base for running a marathon, but I misjudged my body's need to recover. So, soon after the start of the marathon, I found myself near the back, running at a very slow pace, which eventually became a walk. After a couple of laps, I got over my disappointment at doing what was turning out to be my slowest time ever, and just enjoyed the scenery. I loved going past the aid stations, where I could stock up on supplies of M&Ms and Cytomax to keep me going.
All too soon, the frontrunners had finished, and I was yet to complete a half-marathon! But once I passed that milestone, I knew that I would definitely continue to the finish, however long it took me. The awards ceremony came and went, and I was still out there, with an ever-dwindling band of brave souls. I passed the time chatting with other tail-enders, and I was really enjoying this unique marathon experience. When I was on my final lap, dozens of finishers were walking by me in the opposite direction, heading for the buses that would take them home. I was embarrassed to find so many cheering me on, as I finished off my snails-pace marathon! My time, as I passed under the race clock, was 7 hours 42 minutes.
If you measure value in time spent doing an activity, I definitely got more than my money's worth! And please note, if anyone intends doing this year's marathon, the fee is $40 before July 31.
By: Eliot Collins
Posted: September 04, 2003
Flat Course, Pleasant Scenery - Not Worth $55
This was the first time that I have run this race and it was my 52nd marathon overall (plus 23 ultras).
Although this race was open to the public, it was essentially a 'club race' for the Sri Chinmoy Marathon Team. They all seemed to know each other, and I was one of the few runners who was not a member of their group.
The race was preceded by 15 minutes of prayer and/or meditation. We then ran nine laps around Rockland Lake State Park. The course was perfectly flat and the scenery was nice, but most runners would find it somewhat boring after a few times around.
The aid stations were well stocked with a variety of items, and there were many enthusiastic / supportive volunteers. Other than the volunteers, however, there were very few spectators.
The post-race meal was pseudo-vegetarian. There was cheese and egg in some of the dishes and no one could tell me for sure what was in the pasta and hot-dogs. There was plenty to eat, and I enjoyed it, although it might not appeal to everyone.
Unfortunately, there was no race photographer or finisher's medal. I probably will not get a finisher's certificate, either. There was also no chip timing or lap counters, so it would have been easy to cheat. Most races that charge $55 provide these items, so I felt that I did not get my monies worth.
Apparently, members of the Sri Chinmoy organization came from all over the world to run this race and they seemed to enjoy themselves. I would not, however, recommend that anyone not in this group make a special trip to New York for this marathon.
By: Robert S.
Posted: August 31, 2003
Beautiful multi-loop course in a state park
This was my first marathon, and have reviewed other race reviews here and will try and give the appropriate stars based on what I think others seem to look for in a marathon (as well as my personal take on the event). I just ran this race. It's the second year running. The course is 9 laps around Rockland Lake in Rockland Lake State Park, and is as flat as a pancake. Therefore, I have given it 3 stars, because there wasn't variety in the terrain as seems to be expected from other runners. The three mile loop around the lake included shaded areas as well as areas in the sun. There are views of the lake and the surrounding hills. It is a very attractive course. I could see the frogs hopping out of the water and the water lilies were in bloom. I don't feel the lack of variety was a drawback in the scenery department. This is actually great for myself, though. My wife and son came to watch part of the race, and instead of only seeing me on one lap we saw each other several times. I stopped for a few minutes and spent some time with them during the race on a couple of laps. Very relaxed atmosphere on this multi-loop course!
There were approximately 800 runners in total, and their families comprised the fan base. The fans were enthusiastic, but compared to other races the number of spectators would merit something lower than a three stars; but their enthusiasm was great. This is not a certified course, and would most likely appeal to those who love to run rather than those who are looking to race or measure their performance for 'official' purposes. They did have markers every mile and a clock at the half-marathon marker. Otherwise you would need to keep your pace with your own watch and track your own laps. Neither of these proved too difficult though. They did have premium aid stations every mile on this three-mile loop. The first aid support was tremendous, with plenty of supplies for just about everything you would need out on the course - from petroleum jelly to Tylenol.
The award for every runner this race is simply a t-shirt, which is enough for myself, but I've read that others expect more. The Sri Chinmoy Marathon Team that organized the event is topnotch in the area. I trust their course measurement for accuracy and their overall organization. Given the criteria that others seem to have, such as a certified course and generous awards, I would say that they would be perceived this as a three-star event for organization.
I loved this race and took the day off from work to run it. I've taken time off from work before and was much more disappointed with how I spent my time. So all in all, that may point to how great this event can be for some. There is a pool at the state park. My wife took my son in early before I finished the race and I met them there for a swim afterwards - which was another nice touch for this event. You can actually plan for a day in the park, not just a day at the race. The food after the race was great. I should've had my wife stop by and picnic, but I knew that would've been inconsiderate to my fellow runners.
My only concern is that the race is organized by Sri Chinmoy, which is a group of meditation students. At the start of the race there was a moment of meditation. I appreciated the moment, but found that since it wasn't announced, and not being a student of Sri, I was a little unsure of what was expected of me. The majority of runners and fans were practitioners of Sri Chinmoy, so I simply followed their lead and didn't say a word for the two-minute moment of silence/meditation. If it had been announced at the beginning, much like a prayer, I don't think I would've mentioned it. Most people who run in the NYC area might be familiar with the Sri team and might expect the moment of meditation.
Overall, I loved this race and would give it a very subjective 5 stars across the board. I was speaking to one of organizers for previous running events from the Sri marathon team and she stated that they plan to run it next year; then I plan to run it next year. It's a great way to start the Labor Day weekend!!
By: Eliot Collins
Posted: August 29, 2003
Flat Course, Pleasant Scenery - Not Worth $55
This was the first time that I have run this race and it was my 52nd marathon overall (plus 23 ultras).
Although this race was open to the public, it was essentially a 'club race' for the Sri Chinmoy Marathon Team. They all seemed to know each other, and I was one of the few runners who was not a member of their group.
The race was preceded by 15 minutes of prayer and/or meditation. We then ran nine laps around Rockland Lake State Park. The course was perfectly flat and the scenery was nice, but most runners would find it somewhat boring after a few times around.
The aid stations were well stocked with a variety of items, and there were many enthusiastic/supportive volunteers. Other than the volunteers, however, there were very few spectators.
The post-race meal was pseudo-vegetarian. There were cheese and egg in some of the dishes and no one could tell me for sure what was in the pasta and hot dogs. There was plenty to eat, and I enjoyed it, although it might not appeal to everyone.
Unfortunately, there was no race photographer or finisher's medal. I probably will not get a finisher's certificate, either. There was also no chip timing or lap counters, so it would have been easy to cheat. Most races that charge $55 provide these items, so I felt that I did not get my money's worth.
Apparently, members of the Sri Chinmoy organization came from all over the world to run this race and they seemed to enjoy themselves. I would not, however, recommend that anyone not in this group make a special trip to New York for this marathon.