By: Luis M.
Posted: May 01, 2016
Expensive parking and it's a nightmare
All other marathons I have ran don't charge for parking, and the traffic is flawless. This one have a $10 fee and getting out took hours. It seems that they don't have any body in charge of traffic, but they sure has teenagers charging. We have to check out of the hotel and are stuck in the parking lot
By: Alexis D.
Posted: May 15, 2015
Delay Half Marathon More
I really really enjoyed this marathon after the 12.5 mile split and before 6 miles. The half marathon starts 45 minutes after the full, but the full was delayed for about 10 minutes.
Therefore, the elite half marathoners caught up to the 5 hour marathoners in the 6th mile and the half marathoners were with us until the 12.5 mile split. At this point, the half marathoners were going at about a 1:50 pace. During this time, at every water station, we had a mix of very fast runners getting their water efficiently, the usual 5 hour runners who stop or slow down at the water stops and the efficient 5 hour runners who were desperately trying to avoid both. I'm sure there were some collisions and scary near misses. I think the half marathoners should be delayed by at least 75 minutes after the actual start time of the marathon.
By: Beth B.
Posted: May 04, 2015
Should have worked the kinks out by now
I ran the half marathon this year, having run it once before in 2009. I thought the race had some organizational issues six years ago, and surprisingly, there still are some. They've been holding this race for 10 years; I would have thought they would have worked the kinks out by now.
Those of us who live in SoCal are lucky to have a ton of races to choose from. It surprises me that this race isn't better, given the amount of competition.
Pros:
- Weather was very nice, overcast, 60s.
- The few spectators were great.
- Post-race finish refreshments were adequate.
- I parked near the start and didn't have a problem finding a spot. But it was rather confusing: there was a sign that said 'event parking' pointing into the lot I parked in, but no race staff collecting $/doling out parking passes, so I was half-afraid my car was going to be towed. (It wasn't)
- Nice race t-shirt and LOVED the disposable race jacket given at the end. Will be great to wear to my next race and just throw out at the start
Cons:
- Expo: not worth the $7 in parking and battle with Friday evening traffic on the 405 freeway. It would have benefited from more signage directing which way to go inside the expo - I had a tough time just figuring out how to leave the building. Next time I'll probably pay to have my bib mailed to me
- Water stations: would have benefited from more (I was thirsty by the time I hit the first one) and from better placement. Please put them on both sides of the street to avoid congestion. And please don't put them on corners for runners to try to grab/drink/toss while also turning. And not sure who thought it was a great idea to have a water station at the bottom of the hill around mile 9/10, but putting it there causes you to lose all momentum you have going into the hill. Would be better placed at the top of the hill
- The course: not as fast as advertised. There are a lot of 90 degree turns, which I found disruptive. The last 1 mile stretch is really discouraging - a long straight section with a few small (but noticeable) hills and then a not-so-scenic run over the 55 freeway.
- Not cool to put a sign 0.2 miles before the finish line saying 'half a mile to go'. The sign was clearly much closer to the finish than half a mile and was VERY discouraging to see
- Congestion: I started encountering slower marathoners around mile 5 and then had to spend the rest of the race dodging them. In some parts, the course is so narrow you can only have 2 people abreast, and I witnessed some near-collisions, which should NOT be happening 6 or 7 miles into a race. Either limit the number of entrants to the race, stagger the races even more, or change the course to accommodate more runners.
- Pacers: I hate to criticize pacers because I know people are doing this out of the kindness of their hearts (THANK YOU, PACERS!), but the 1:45 pacers ran the first half at a blistering pace, to the point where other runners were confused that maybe they had the wrong pace group (they were running sub 1:40 pace for parts of it). I know they might have been trying to bank some time to account for hills in the second half, but it just ended up burning some folks out.
All in all, I found the race just OK. I much prefer Long Beach, Carlsbad, and even Surf City to this one. I might do it again just because I'm a local and do many of my training runs at the Newport Back Bay anyway, but it's not a race I'd rave about.
By: Eddie Hahn
Posted: May 14, 2014
Separate the fields ASAP!!!
Something has got to be done to avoid the dangrous course merge with the half marathoners. I understand that their start is later and we only impact eachother for a short time, but a section is VERY narrow and I was witness to and nearly involved in a runner collision under the bridge. The half course should be completly independent. I did not like the 3:50 am shuttle. I ran this event in 2007 and 2008. The course is much more scenic and showcases about 5 cities, and some beautiful stretch along the ocean shore. A very glamorous glitzy medal and a painters jacket, nice shirt. Average post race food, and a very small beer.
The fair concassionares have the monopoly on airport priced food and drinks-we were kind of at their mercy with no other options on ground or nearby. Kind of a racket. The finish line volunteers politely waited for the last runner (9 hours) to ensure she was recognized even though the finish line was torn down after the official cut off. $10 parking is a rip-off. I waited so no issues with the traffic getting out. I missed most of the post race concert-guess I needed to run faster for that.
By: Tom H.
Posted: May 05, 2014
Happy 10th Anniversary to the OC Marathon
Congratulations to the race organizers for hosting a marathon for 10 years in Orange County. There has been continious improvement over the years including this year for the great finisher metal, good food at the finish and warm jacket at the finish. The finishing stretch in front of the band was a welcome surprise. The course remains the same for the last few years and the spectators are few but the aid stations were plentiful and enthusiastic. With over 10,000 half marathoners, the race logistics become challenging. For the marathoners, the earliest bus shuttles (3:30 am) are the best choice to avoid any delays to the start. I am in the Founder's Lecacy Club so I will be back for the 11th OC Marathon!
By: Lulu Y.
Posted: May 05, 2014
Not a fast course
I only did the 1/2, but judging by the first 1/2 of the course I can tell you that this is not a fast course at all. There's a steep incline somewhere between 7-8, and again between 9-10. The second mile is a steep downhill, I would call this course a hilly course and you'll need to do hill training. This would explain why only 5% of runners qualified for Boston this year.
Volunteers were great. Aid station well manned. I heard about the nightmare of people trying to get out of the parking lot at the finish line in past years (and apparently, it took some people 2 hours this year just to get out of the parking lot), I decided to park at the start, and take the shuttle back from the finish line. It took me less than an hour (from finishing the race) to get back home.
If you're looking to BQ, skip this race. If this is a local race for you, and you want to enjoy it then make sure to park at the start to avoid the headache.
By: David L.
Posted: December 22, 2013
OK course, lousy post race organization
This was my first OC Marathon. I'm from Orange County, work in Irvine, do some of my training runs on part of the course, so I was really looking forward to it. The early start time was a drag, especially because shuttle bus times were something like 4:30 am. The scenic first fourth of the marathon was nice, with a lot of downhill until mile 7. At about mile 7 we turned inland, this part of the course was fine. Running through the South Coast Plaza Mall was kind of stimulating, breaking up the monotony a little. Also, I like the riverbed trail towards the end. Not sure why others were against that? Post race was a nightmare. I waited 30 minutes to get my bag of warmup clothes, but gave up and left for my car when I started to get too cold to function. Then it took me an hour plus to exit the fairgrounds. Apparently some genius has the runners coming through where the cars should be exiting. Doesn't seem to hard to avoid this problem, but they've had years to fix it apparently but haven't. I swore at the time that there was no way in hell I'd ever do this run again, but now I'm thinking if I'm less exhausted from the half I might be able to stomach it again. I like that it is a local race, but wish the parking fiasco would be fixed.
By: Jill O.
Posted: June 02, 2013
Horrible organization at Finish
The first half is scenic, had great support - yes, it's a bit narrow at some places, but overall, I had a positive experience.
However, it was a nightmare after finishing: long lines everywhere, over an hour to get my gear, and 1.5 hours to exit the parking lot. Terrible!! This isn't that big of a race! I wrote a letter to the race director and didn't even get a form letter back.
I want to support my local race but unless they figure out some of these basic logistical issues, I'll be training here, but racing other places.
By: Hiram A.
Posted: May 16, 2013
FINISHERS CERTIFICATE
For the amount of money we pay for race fee's the OC Marathon website/Director should offer a free finishers certificate for all runners. It does not cost them anything and people are using their paper in ink to print certificates. HUGE negative on their part. For those who PR'd the course it really stinks. The only option is to 'BUY' a crappy version from Marathonfoto that is not official. Since the cousre was certified as a Boston qualifier the race director should offer this to all participants like all other races. I will not return to this race. Sometimes, its the little things that make a difference.
By: Guillaume C.
Posted: May 14, 2013
An OK course, logistics at finish need to improve
I ran the 2013 full course. I had an overall positive experience, getting a 6 min PR and hitting a BQ with 25 minutes to spare. So I was pretty happy with my race. However I have a few comments:
1-the course did not feel as easy as the race web page indicates. The first half is rolling, and includes a lot of turns. The hills were not bad, but for me it was difficult to get into a groove until M8-9. There were some sections that were very narrow. At my pace (~6:53 avg) this wasn't a problem, but it certainly was for slower runners, and even worse for fast half-marathoners who had to struggle to pass slow marathoners on this narrow area.
2- A lot of people mention that the first half is scenic but the second part is terrible. I did not find anything particularly exciting about the first half, and I actually enjoyed the second half much more, as it is more flat (except the bridge over the 405), and with less turns. I usually run marathons to get faster, and I have no issues running into deserted residential/business parks areas as long as the course is fast.
3-There were some major issues at the finish. I stayed at the official hotel, right across the start line, which was very convenient for the start. However I had to catch a shuttle bus to get back there once I finished. I waited 50 minutes for the bus, and since they did not provide any space blankets, I became really cold with teeth shattering waiting on the exposed windy area at the OC fairgrounds. Then I boarded the bus, but it took 45 minutes (yes I looked at the time) just to get OUT of the parking lot. Traffic control was terrible. These issues are recurring from year to year and need to be addressed. Once we left, the bus driver dropped us about half a mile away from the hotel - not really what you want after a full marathon and waiting in the cold.
4- the post race food was mediocre - I was handed a plastic bag with water, some atrocious coconut water, and a couple of nutrition bars.
So I think this race is a victim of its own success. It would be a nice full marathon, unfortunately it has become difficult for the organizers to manage the race with the large numbers of half marathoners.
By: Kregg H.
Posted: May 07, 2013
Nice scenery, could be awesome with adjustments
I think this race has a ton of potential but needs some help in improving. Not many complaints about course,several areas funnel into narrow places but since I am slower there is not a big crowd around me. Adequate water,restrooms,security,etc. So the course itself is pretty good. All of the 'little' things need worked on. My wife had very hard time going to see me after the start, not much info from people on where to go and since we are out of towners, she ended up just coming to finish. Expo was average, goodie bag was non existent, post race food was not great. I feel bad giving it a bad grade because I enjoyed running it but I rate things on overall experience and I think this can use some work. We had a bus shuttle from hotel but I hear that parking lot was nightmare getting out, some people sitting up to two hours to leave the race. Also heard they ran out of half marathon medals and water and gels in some stations for half.
By: John Barry
Posted: May 07, 2013
All Around Nice Marathon
This is Orange County California. The marathon reflected that in so many ways. Well planned, nice coarse, all in all an enjoyable day and a nice run. Even the weather was perfect for running - temps in low 60s, mostly overcast skies. 'Life is good' vibe! I recommend this one, particualrly if you live in Southern California.
By: Robert B.
Posted: May 05, 2013
Fiasco organizationally
Ran the 1/2. Course was great.
At the beginning of the race, it took 20 minute to drop off an equipment bag. At the end of the race, it took an astounding hour and a half to pick up said bag. While I'm wet and sore and the temperature is dropping.
Then I get in my car and wait for 1 hour and 33 minutes to get out of the parking lot. Crazy stupid.
From finish line to my sister's house 11 minutes away took over four hours.
By: David L.
Posted: April 04, 2013
Great First half, horrible second half
Really liked the first half of this marathon a lot and then everyone disappeared from the course and the course became a route of concrete and business parks and a desert of a park. Would recommend only doing the half-marathon for this race. It was really nice.
By: Alexander Richardson
Posted: March 17, 2013
Had a great time.
Loved everything, but wish there were still news cameras at 5 hours.
By: wes w.
Posted: March 11, 2013
Not a Serious Event
This is the only Marathon event I have ever experienced a delay, a 25 minutes long delay. It is not nice of the organizers to do this to the runners. Imagine that you have yourself warmed up and the delay let you cool down quickly in the morning cold without knowing when the start will actually be.
The course is fairly interesting, scenic, and cheerful.
By: Kyle EricSon
Posted: May 10, 2012
Does OC Really Want A Marathon?
I have now run this marathon every year since it's been in existence and commend the organizers as I think it gets better every year. Although I'm not a fan of point-to-point courses, this one is at least better than most (but it sure seems like a lot of money, time and energy is wasted busing runners from the finish line to the starting line).
Unfortunately, like most marathons in Southern California, this is really more of a half marathon (9,000 finishers), with very few of us (2,000) going the full distance. Accordingly, the first half is much better and more scenic than the second half, but I applaud the organizers for eliminating a couple of miles of riverbed running in the second half (we still have to do a couple miles on the riverbed, but it's tolerable).
Getting back to the title of my review however, I just can't help but feeling that the residents of Orange County may like the runners coming into their community and spending money, but they really don't like any of the inconvenience that goes with it. I've got a sneaking suspicion that this is the reason that the marathon start time was pushed back to 5:30 in the hopes that they could open the roads sooner. As I live in Riverside County, this meant that I had two choices; either stay in an area hotel Saturday night, or get up at 2:30 am Sunday morning (I chose the latter). Anyway, I just couldn't help but feeling that runners really aren't welcome in the OC and they should have just hung-up a banner at the starting line that said 'Thank You for Running the OC ... Now Hurry-Up & Get Out!'.
By: Tom H.
Posted: May 09, 2012
The OC Marathon Moves Forward!
Credit goes out to the organizers for trying to the improve this marathon. The early start benefited the marathoners by getting to the parking and buses before the mass of half marathoners. Starting 25 minutes late should be avoided next year. The aid stations were well staffed and enthusiastic. The course uses some narrow bike paths along the way but minimizing the road closures seems to be a priority. This event is not one of the mega-marathons and is great for the half marathoners. As a local runner, the expectations are met.
By: Joel White
Posted: May 07, 2012
Fast and scenic course
This course starts at Fashion Island in Newport Beach and ends at the OC Fair and Events Center in Costa Mesa. The first half is hilly, but has enough downhill to make up for the climbs. The second half is extremely flat except for a small climb at mile 14. It is the fastest of the three marathons I have done, and got a PR by 7 minutes. It is a scenic course that goes through the very wealthy areas of Newport Beach. All of miles were marked, and they had plenty of pace groups for those with a specific time goal. If you want to set a new PR and run a scenic marathon, I highly recommend this course.
By: Slick C.
Posted: May 07, 2012
Fix it!!
First half beautiful, second half disaster. Who ever planned this course must not be a runner! Come one now, in the second half we had to circle cones, run through the mall parking lots, a high school campus, so many turns and out and backs. How ridiculous! Hated every step of second half. I am not sure why we couldn't do straight 4 or 5 mile square blocks to avoid these crazy hairpin turns and swirls. My 41st marathon; will not be back!
By: Wilmer G.
Posted: May 07, 2012
Welcome to the OC!
This is a very well-organized race. From the expo to the start to the finish to the shuttles, everything ran very smoothly. There were over 10,000 finishers including the full, half, and 5k, but the entire event was so well-organized that you didn't notice how big the event really was. The marathon course was very nice for the first half, but the last half was considerably less scenic.
This full marathon is really a half with another 13.1 added to the end as an afterthought. I think at some point we were running around a high school parking lot...??? There were very gentle rolling hills throughout the course, but not bad at all, and MUCH flatter than LA. I was able to score a BQ in this race after missing it by five minutes at LA. T-shirts and medals were awesome; I love how they both distinguished between the races. My only really big complaint is the $5 parking for the expo. Really guys...I understand that expo was co-located with the Taste Fest there at the OC Fair, but if I'm only there to pick up my race bib, I shouldn't have to pay $5 to park. Overall great race, though. I would definitely do it again!
By: Isaias C.
Posted: September 15, 2011
Small turn-out but has potential
This marathon is not that big.. it has a small town atmosphere. The first half is very scenic, the second half gets lonely.. most people run the half. They could use more clock markers, they aren't at every mile so take your watch if you are trying for a PR. The course is not as easy (flat) as most people think or say it is but is not as challenging as LA marathon. The fans are great (where they are) but you go through a period where you feel you are the lone runner... especially around mile 20 or so. I really enjoyed the course though and I think it was awesome to finish at the fairgrounds. It is a nice run and I think it is under-rated, if more people ran it and more spectators showed up it could rival some of the more popular runs. I will run it again and hope it gets bigger so that the organizers have more support for the runners.
By: Rich A.
Posted: June 02, 2011
This would be a good 1/2 to run
Overall it was a good experience. I guess I have nothing else to compare it with though. The first 1/2 was really good. The fans were great. You run some neat parts of town where the residents would sit out front and cheer you on and in some cases offer things such as cliff bars or oranges. The back 1/2 was brutal though. There were stretches where the only people cheering you on were the police blocking traffic. You ran most of the back 1/2 through the business district and along the canal. There were plenty of water stations along the way, but not nearly enough bathrooms. I calculated that I burned 3-4 minutes waiting in line.
By: Dave L.
Posted: May 26, 2011
Best Yet
OC Marathon people are slowly putting together a nice event. I have run the marathon the past 2 years and this was the best yet. Other than some small problems mileage markers the race has improved. The Back Bay was a nice feature but if we can't run we can't run it. The first half still has some of the best views for a marathon in the city. I still hate the course around mile 20-23 but what are going to do. I would like to see the organizers start the full half an hour before the half. It would be nice to have splits every 5k.For a race that is somewhat new still they do a good job. See you next year!
By: Wayne Wright
Posted: May 22, 2011
O Say, Can OC?
INTRODUCTION: I am a race-walker with a median marathon completion time of 5:11:53. The OC Marathon was my twentieth 26.2-miler completed.
COURSE: The course was not what one would consider pancake flat, but it was not possessive of significant hills, either. True, there were some inclines and declines, most particularly in Newport Beachthe most strenuous incline being, perhaps, the 60 foot ascent over a quarter-miles distance at about mile 7. Technically speaking, it would have been moderately difficult to set a new personal best on this course.
The race started just after 6 am on an incline in Newport Center; starting temperature was 54 degrees. The start times for the four corrals, which comprised of both full and half marathoners, were approximately eight minutes apart. Given the three lanes available for use, there was very little congestion at the start. At mile 1, we traveled down a 1-1/2 mile descent on MacArthur Boulevard, where we had our first view of the Pacific Ocean. The rare ability to see both San Clemente and Santa Catalina Islands on this day indicated the presence of Santa Ana winds. About 2-1/2 miles into the course, we turned onto Ocean Boulevard in Corona del Mar, arguably the most picturesque part of the marathon. Here, we were forced to make choices: on our left we could view Big Corona, Newport Harbor, and Balboa. On the right, we could note the architectural styles of the multimillion dollar residences. Or we could keep our eyes on the road in front of us in order to negotiate the shortest course. Just before mile 4, we entered Bayside Drive, where we could see more domiciles, the Coast Guard station (where scenes of the 1970 Disney movie, The Boatniks, were filmed), yacht clubs, and occasionally, Balboa Island.
We left Bayside Drive at mile 6, crossed the bridge over Newport Harbor and took the underpass to the north side of Coast Highway. This was our first point of congestion, where the path only could accommodate three runners across. At mile 7, we ascended Dover Drive to Castaways Park. While affording us panoramic views of Newport Bay, the congestion on the bike path forced us slow our pace by about 30 seconds on mile 8, where we entered the Westcliff neighborhood, which lasted about two miles. Some slight inclines and declines here, and we had to navigate the turns in order to find the shortest course. Entering Irvine Avenue at mile 11, we had one notable ascent before having our final glimpse of Upper Newport Bay. Some of us observed the planes flying into John Wayne Airport were coming in from the south, again indicating the presence of Santa Ana winds. At mile 12, the half-marathoners turned left onto Mesa Drive as we continued onto Red Hill Avenue.
In May, weather along the Orange Coast is moderate, with temperatures ranging from a low in the fifties to a high in the sixties with cool, coastal breezes coming in from the south and west. On marathon day however, this was reversed by the presence of hot, gusty Santa Ana winds coming from the north and east. We first felt this travelling north on Red Hill Avenue. The winds, combined with scaling the bridge crossing the San Diego Freeway, gave us a challenge as we entered Irvine at mile 14. At mile 15, our predominantly westward route toward the Performing Arts Center and South Coast Plaza in Costa Mesa lasted approximately two miles. Anyone who felt like abandoning the race at this point to shop at Nordstrom would have been disappointed to find the store had not opened yet&perhaps after the race. At mile 17, we turned north on Bear Street into Santa Ana and felt the headwinds for one final mile.
The wind was finally at our back as we headed west on Segerstrom Drive. At mile 20, we headed south on the Santa Ana River trail toward Costa Mesa. We encountered cyclists weaving in and out of marathon traffic during this time, which was more of an annoyance than a danger. At mile 23, we proceeded eastward on a trail in Fairview Park, and continued onto the finish line at the Fairgrounds. Finish temperature at 11:30 am was 84 degrees.
ORGANIZATION: Expo was average for a marathon of this size. A good selection of marathon merchandise was available. The most unusual item was an OC Marathon-logoed cowbell selling for five dollars. Just before I left, I noticed my complementary tech tee was for the half marathon. The apologetic volunteer happily exchanged it. The energy and enthusiasm of the volunteers at the expo and at the race was commendable. Traffic control was excellent.
The big negative was the misplacement of the mile markers. For the first time, I was forced to abandon the recording of mile splits on my chronograph. This was no small issue, for it was difficult for me to obtain feedback about whether my pace was too quick or too slow. For future races, I hope the marathon organizers invest in some more visible and sturdy markers that can withstand the winds.
FANS: Some of the Newport Beach residents came out of their houses to cheer us on. Cheer squads in place at miles 12 and 14.
CONCLUSION: Race director Gary Kutscher had to contend with some difficult issues this year. In March, the Newport Beach City Council directed him not to repeat last years route on the scenic Back Bay Drive unless he could remove the water stops. This would force the runners to be without support for three miles. Given the race day temperature, he made the correct decision to reroute the course. I expect he was under a lot of pressure to pull off these changes in such short time.
This was the seventh OC Marathon and the third course used. The excellent views along the route justified participation in this marathon. This marathon showed promise. But the question remained, can OC settle into a great marathon?
By: Marlin Y.
Posted: May 18, 2011
Decent marathon, could be improved
Marathon was mostly as expected from reading remarks from 2010.
Negative:
Expo was nothing huge, but OK. Limited 'goodie bag' as mentioned below for 2010.
No wave start
Somewhere around mile 17 the mile markers were a mile behind till about mile 21. Then they were back on track.
Miles along riverbed were very hot, very limited shade. I realize that's hit or miss depending on weather, it was pretty hot by that point for a 5 hour marathoner.
Water stop between miles 3 & 4 (on backside of PCH) was very congested and hard to get to (on the outside right hand corner of a left hand turn), had to dodge people to get to it.
Positive:
Nice design for medal, always like when medals strap has design/detail put into it, which this one does.
Parking for expo was free if you told attendant that you were their for the packet pickup. Parking was fairly easy.
All in all it was a decent marathon, the first 10 miles or so were fairly scenic, the rest could have been anywhere, nothing exciting.
By: Claude A.
Posted: May 17, 2011
Good Race - Suggestions for Improvement
1. I recommend staying at the host hotel just feet away from the start. I was getting out of bed while most runners were waiting at the starting line.
2. The comments on this site for previous OC races held pretty true. The first half of the course is awesome, second half not so much. Spectators were sparse but good. The Expo was weak and the finish line spread was really weak...very surprising.
3. Pleased to see Gatorade instead of some knock off drink offered
4. Aid stations were well done
5. Transportation back to the start was great.
6. Lots of walkers in the first few miles despite wave starts. Not a big deal to me but worth pointing out.
Overall it was a nice race. I came a long way from Kansas City so can't say I will be back but don't regret it at all. Seems like you could do some basic marketing to get more buy-in from the neighborhoods the race goes through?
By: Kyle E.
Posted: May 09, 2011
The 2011 Course Was The Best Yet
This year once again the course was slightly altered from years past. Specifically, the first couple of miles went around Fashion Island (not a big deal to me), and then miles 7 - 12 were not run in the Back Bay (yaa!), but rather on city streets where there were actual people and things to look at! The second half of the marathon course was the same as previous years, which although not ideal, is at least acceptable (I'd still prefer starting & finishing at the same place, but it appears this race is destined to be point-to-point).
This race is one of the local ones I run every year along with Long Beach in October and Surf City in February, and I will probably continue to do so as it fits nicely into my schedule.
P.S. Thanks for the place on the back of the medal for a place to engrave my finishing time and position (am I the only one who does this?), but I don't really need a place for my name (don't think even I will forgot that!).
By: Paula Hrankowski
Posted: May 05, 2011
beautiful first half but rather dull on the second
Four of us came from Vancouver Canada to run in the sunshine. And we certainly got that: unseasonably hot weather meant 29 degrees Celsius/ 85 degrees Fahrenheit. Kudos to the race organizers for adding extra water stations and having golf carts cruising with water and medical aid along the last several miles.
This was my second marathon. Our group consisted of two people running their third marathon, and one seasoned marathoner who was doing his 11th and had Boston under his belt. We would all be in the 'masters' category.
The online information for this marathon was excellent but signage for the expo and on race day was non existent. There were several other events happening at the fairgrounds at the time of the expo and it was hit and miss finding the correct event. Race day, there did not seem to be one sign saying 'this way to Marathon' or even 'start here'. The announcements at the beginning of the event could only be heard by the first quarter of the crowd. They need to have speakers going to the back of the corrals. The race started late.
The first half of the race was gorgeous. Beautiful neighborhoods and scenery. Our group didn't agree on the second half. The experienced marathoner thought it was nicely varied. I was not impressed with running through a mall parking lot and then along a dry and smelly culvert, foiled by a dirty dusty path. The wind and dust in my eyes at mile 20 was not appreciated.
There was negligible entertainment. I didn't expect rock and roll quality but given that this is California, you'd think they could have scared up some amateur bands looking for some free advertising. The biggest band was a bunch of kids!
The spectators were friendly and the police were outstanding, cheering us along and offering encouragement.
All and all I'd say it was a nice event. We enjoyed the location tremendously and would come back for that alone. I probably would not run this marathon again.
By: Go H.
Posted: May 05, 2011
Wouldn't do this one again
I was disappointed in this race. Overall the course was a tale of two courses. The first half was pretty scenic but they had the half and full marathoners on a very narrow path in the most scenic areas. Couldn't really enjoy the scenery for all the runner traffic. The second half of the course was just flat weird. I don't know which was dumber - running through the mall and on the sidewalks in front of stores in the mall or next to the drainage ditch or the dirt road that was all cut up and provided very unstable footing. That was just stupid. I think the course was the worst I have run of the 10 marathons I have completed. All the rest of the race was just average to below average.
There are plenty other better marathons out there.
By: ANDREW H.
Posted: May 03, 2011
good
2011: 1st marathon, 1st formal race. I venture to predict the O.C. is significantly better than average based on the scenic coastal section, excellent people support throughout, respectful fellow runners and local residents, nutritional support with water and gatorade at every mile, energy gels at at least 3 locations, and overall smoothness of experience. Be aware the middle is flat and relatively less run-inspiring, and of the possibility of mid-70s temperature, wind, and strong sunlight. For 2011, one needed to have reached parking pre-5:15am in order to start at the gun. Greatly appreciate the massive effort and forbearance that made it possible!
By: Sean H.
Posted: May 03, 2011
Well organized, but a pretty poor course
Pros:
- Early start. It still got hot, but you can't do much more than start at 6am and hope for the best, weather-wise.
- Goodie bag. Some good samples, a nice t-shirt, decent medal.
- Portajons at start line. This was the best job I've ever seen at a race. A half hour before the race and there were no lines more than about 10 people deep.
- Post-finish area: Once through the finish, it wasn't crowded and you were able to easily make your way through the festival area, which had lots of food options, waters, beers, etc.
- Good job with the water. Frequent stations, all well-stocked, and staffed with supportive volunteers.
Cons:
- The course, overall. Some scenic spots in the first half along the coast, but issues throughout. In the first half, there were several spots where the course narrowed to only 2 or 3 runners wide, creating bottlenecks. The field never really spread out at all until about 8 miles in. The bigger issue for me was the 2nd half. I understand it can't all be scenic, but there was a lot of uneven pavement and loose dirt/sand, and much of the course was largely inaccessible to the public, which made any sort of crowd support impossible.
- Poor wave start management. There were corrals based on expected time, but I was in corral B, with my expected finish time of 4:00, and I had to start weaving through walkers within a half mile.
- Limited crowd support. I think this may be a product of the course itself more than anything else. Spectators that were out there were supportive and the volunteers were great, there just weren't a lot of spots that had anyone there to cheer.
Overall, this is among my least favorite races, either full or half marathon. I think if you just ran the half here though, it wouldn't be as bad. The first half of the course wasn't terrible, but it went bad quickly after the half and full split. It was well organized, but the course set up and subsequent lack of spectators made for a pretty dull race. I'll pass on this one in the future.
By: Peter F.
Posted: May 02, 2011
Beautiful Course
I ran the 2011 Half Marathon. I've run what has been called the OC Half marathon 3 times now, and this was the best of the courses. The only reason I did not give the organization 5 stars was because I spent 2+ hours in the parking lot waiting to leave.
Good:
Beautiful, interesting course mostly along the water but also through neighborhoods
Plenty of water stops and bathrooms
Not too many hills
Decent support from local residents
Beautiful weather. It would have been too hot had the race not started at 6am, but was fine then. Marathoners may have had a rough time of it.
Nice medals-previous years people complained about not having a year, which has been fixed. Different medals for 1/2 and full runners.
Very nice technical shirt-different for 1/2 and full runners.
Bad (not a to complain about):
parking lot situation after the race
official results did not include a 10k split-only 5k, 10 miles and 11 miles-I don't understand the 11 mile split.
I imagine marathoners were frustrated both with the crowds and the people who split off at mile 13, though I did not experience crowding.
I will definitely be running this event again in the future and I highly recommend it.
By: Shari R.
Posted: May 02, 2011
Miss the run through the Back Bay - too hilly!
I've run the half for three years now. The full heads into ugly suburbia, so it's not worth the footsteps. This year the route avoided the beautiful Newport Back Bay and spent more time in the residential areas. Probably will skip this next year. (I've got to admit the water and restrooms were better this year, but that can't compensate for the Back Bay.)
By: Jennifer B.
Posted: May 01, 2011
Beautiful scenery, hilly, needs better support
A beautiful, slightly hilly course. Good support with water and Gatorade. However, I couldn't believe that GU, nor any other carb, was made available until mile 10! Good thing I was only running the half that day or I would have been hurting for carb reloading. The porta-potty situation was a mess...not enough stalls, not enough t.p. Other than that, it was very enjoyable. Maybe not a P.R. setting course, but great weather and good views.
By: Tonya Ohrel
Posted: June 09, 2010
I enjoyed this half and plan to run the full next
I had minimal complaints:
1. The porta-potties ON the course were positioned such that the lines would stretch across the road where we were trying to run.
2. The porta-potties at the start were plentiful, but all in one spot, and facing toward each other, so lines ended up being a huge confusing crowd.
3. Having to pay for parking twice was annoying... paying for race day is fine, but requiring us to get our number at the expo, where we ALSO had to pay for parking was a little annoying. Add an option to have our race number mailed to us for an extra $2 or something.
Those complaints being stated... they are very minor. I thoroughly enjoyed this half marathon. It was beautiful, and the support/aid on the course was fantastic. Generally flat, and perfect weather. What more could you ask for?
By: Dave L.
Posted: May 17, 2010
Help Us
The OC Marathon is a good marathon. With a little bit of help, it can be a great one. The first half next to the coast and through the upper bay is awesome. The weather in early May is very predictable and nice. The OC Marathon has good corporate sponsors and great volunteers. The point-to-point course is not my favorite, but it's workable. The medal was good-looking, but there was no stinking date - are you kidding me? The finish area was better than last year's, and so was the porta-potty at the start.
But with the growth of the race, you have to do something with the start. It was a joke! I started with the 4-hour pace group and not even a 1/4-mile into the race we were passing walkers! Please take note of how other marathons are run. The start line is mass confusion. And with the narrow streets and bridge under PCH, something has to be done. You might find yourself having more marathoners when you fix the problem. Also, the course by the concrete wash/bike path was not my favorite, but it's better than an industrial park, I suppose. Anyway, I do enjoy the OC Marathon and I will be back. Please help us with the start! Thanks for kicking back to the running clubs - what a great idea!
By: Bradley R.
Posted: May 11, 2010
Pretty Good Experience
I very much enjoyed running this marathon and would strongly consider running it again. My only complaint is that there needs to be a staggered start so that it isn't so crowded during the early, narrow portions of the course. For those complaining about the lack of energy gels, prepare yourself and carry your own during your next marathon. For those complaining about paying for parking, this is Southern California for crying out loud. You pay for parking everywhere you go. For those complaining about the lack of crowd support, try running the Los Angeles or Rock and Roll Marathon instead. For those complaining about "hill" placement along the course, you need to toughen up. For those complaining about the lonely stretch along the bike path and dirt trail, work harder on preparing yourself mentally before you run another marathon. Remember, folks: this is a marathon. Not only do you need to be prepared physically, mentally and emotionally, but you also need to be prepared for anything to happen. If this is too much for you to handle, there are plenty of 5Ks and 10Ks for you to run.
By: Marvin G.
Posted: May 10, 2010
Improved From Last Year
My third running of this course. This year, the porta-potty situation at the start line was better. I arrived just after 5 a.m. and had no problem getting parking or on a shuttle bus.
As others have said, I highly recommend that the race organizers have a separate start for the marathoners. Certain spots got too crowded.
I didn't see any electrolytes after mile 3 till after mile 10. Did I miss it? That was really my only complaint. Otherwise, organization was good and calm weather really helped make this a good race.
Post race, the medal was very nice, but I'm wondering how much more it would cost to put the year on it. Food was adequate, but with so many halfers, some items were already gone for the marathoners even for us sub-4 finishers.
Overall, I am satisfied with this race and will do it again next year.
By: John G.
Posted: May 08, 2010
Not bad, but can improve
The web page could be more informative. Knowing the sports drink and gels given out on the course well in advance is important. The expo was well organized and not too crowded when I visited (Saturday at 11 a.m.). I was in and out within 20 minutes. The starting line could be improved, with staggered starts for the half and the full. I got into position about 15 minutes prior to the race and was able to get within 50 feet of the starting line. The first half of the course is very scenic, but the second is much less interesting. I don't find this to be a big problem, as I usually just focus on running and don't really take in the sights along the way. I did appreciate the straightness of the course in many sections, which I think makes running on tired legs a little easier. The finish line was well organized, but most of the half marathon runners were already finished before the first marathoners started coming in. Again, a staggered start would seem to help. Spectators are thin, and there are times when you are running on sidewalks and surprising a few locals. Overall, a good race, which I would consider doing again.
By: anotgiven l.
Posted: May 08, 2010
Put some clocks on the course please!
My biggest problem is that there is not a single clock on the course.
By: Tom H.
Posted: May 06, 2010
Run the OC
The OC Marathon needs some tweaking to make it a much better experience.
1. Start the marathon 30-45 minutes ahead of the half marathon so the narrow areas within the first 6 miles before the Back Bay are open for running and less crowded aid stations.
2. Add a lot of disposable trash containers along the start area and add more portables.
3. Get two different-colored cups to distinguish between water and electrolyte drink, where applicable.
4. Have volunteers at every Mile Marker so the signs stay there since some were missing.
5. Have two gel stations instead of only one at mile 20.
6. Try to get another route for the 20-25-mile section, which is on a crowded bikeway and a dirt section.
Thanks for keeping this marathon going and keep improving the experience.
By: Denise S.
Posted: May 06, 2010
Too crowded!
Please consider staggering the start times for the full and half marathons. Starting both at the same time makes no sense, especially considering that there are many narrow sections on this route.
There are few spectators, but they are enthusiastic!
Having no gels until mile 18 seems odd to me, and there was no info on the course website until almost race day regarding the brand of gel that would be available. This information is crucial, as runners can train using the same gel. I brought my own gels, as running for 18 miles without nutrition is not recommended.
By: Kyle E.
Posted: May 05, 2010
2010 Got Better, But Still Room For Improvement
This was my sixth time running the OC Marathon, and I think it has gotten better each year. For the first time since its inception, the course did not change from the previous year (some may like that, others may not). Although I don't want to focus on only the negatives, I'll get them out of the way first;
- No on-course timing
- Little entertainment on the course (I only saw 1 band)
- No Vaseline boards on the course
- Limited "goodie bag" at the expo
- No wave start (much needed!)
- Very crowded at Mile 5 when you cut under PCH
- Miles 20-23 on the riverbed are very lonely and "unscenic"
The positive aspects of the race are:
- The parking at the OC Fairgrounds was ample and relatively hassle-free (at least when I got there)
- The buses to the start line were very organized, numerous and timely
- The water stops were well stocked and the volunteers very helpful and nice
- I personally enjoyed the small "off-road" portion of the course around Mile 24
- The finish line was well organized and efficient, as was the first-aid tent (I needed some ice in the worst possible way!)
All in all, I think OC has gotten better every year, and although I'm still not a fan of point-to-point courses, this one is at least acceptable in its current configuration (although with the size of the race this year, a wave start is really getting to be a necessity). I hope the race directors can continue to improve this race each year as they recently have done, and I'll continue to reserve the beginning of May for the OC Marathon.
P.S. Thanks again to all of the volunteers who did a great job and are very much appreciated.
By: David T.
Posted: May 05, 2010
Pretty but lonely course with few spectators.
Good organization and communication prior to the race. The last half of course is dull, including a section of unpaved path. Few spectators, even at the finish.
By: Vince D.
Posted: May 05, 2010
Not bad, not great, but not bad
This was my first stan- alone marathon in about 18 months. I chose it because the profile looks flat, but the first 3 miles do not bear that out. There are lots of rolling hills in those opening miles. The first half of the course is very nice - more by the water would be nice, and the parts on the reserve were quite and pleasant. However, the second half, save the short run by the arts area, was boring. Fan support was lackluster at best. The mile markers were way off at times. The second half on the bike trail was a joke. The trail was open and we had to dodge cyclists. Not at all that I had in mind when I signed up.
I chose this race as a Boston qualifier (didn't work out) and upgraded to the "VIP package." What a waste of $80. There was no special shuttle to the start as promised, no special corral as promised, and the VIP porta-potties were not manned (so anyone and everyone was using them). Finally, the food was taken away at the 5-hour mark (I got my massage, and looked up, hoping to get another omelette, and it was gone!). There were people finishing who would enter an omelette bar with no omelettes!!!
I can't say it was a terrible race; for a small race it was ok, and I may run it again next year to prove myself on the course. However, I'd never again invest the money for their upgraded package, and I think it could be made better, especially the course in the second half.
By: Bradley R.
Posted: May 03, 2010
Pleased With The OC Experience
There were so many positives and hardly any negatives that I don't know where to start. Let's do it this way:
Positives:
1. 95% of the course. The terrain was varied and the scenery was mixed. From the ocean to the nature preserve to industrial areas to residential areas to a shopping mall to the fairgrounds, this was one of the most diverse courses I have run. There were a few hills and most of them were just blips on the radar.
2. Plenty of porta-potties. Unless you are one of the runners who likes to show up at the last minute and then expects a short line, porta-potties were plentiful and waits were short 45 minutes before the race. Porta-potties were adequately provided along the course. I darted into them twice along the course with no wait whatsoever.
3. Volunteers. From the expo to the water stops, the volunteers were friendly and helpful. How could a marathon ever be successful without them?
4. Spectators. Sure they were limited in some of the more remote stretches, but they cheered whenever I passed them. On several occasions, even the motorcycle police officers cheered as runners passed by them. All of the spectators were enthusiastic and provided plenty of energy.
5. The Hilton Hotel. Although we had to pay $15, they provided a shuttle from the hotel to the starting line. It was one fewer thing that I had to worry about and it allowed me to sleep an extra half an hour. The room was reasonably priced and the staff was professional and helpful.
6. Gear drop off/pickup. No problems whatsoever. For once I decided to keep my sweats instead of throwing them away and I had no issues dropping them off and retrieving them after the marathon.
Negatives:
1. The 5% of the course that wasn't positive. We were packed in pretty tight near the 5-mile mark when we looped under the road and came out on the other side. We were also packed in pretty tight in some areas as we ran through the nature preserve.
2. Combining the marathoners with the half-marathoners. The marathoners should start 30 minutes before the half-marathoners. After all, we are running 26.2 miles and should be entitled to special treatment. Perhaps the mile-5 bottleneck might be reduced with a staggered start.
I would strongly consider running this marathon again and would definitely do it again if the marathoners and half-marathoners did not start together. Great job to the Orange County Marathon organizers, volunteers, spectators and marathoners.
By: Robert R.
Posted: May 03, 2010
For OC, the second half should be better
Three stars for the course: the first half is beautiful, but the second half is awful. There's nothing to see, and no crowd support, so you're just trying to get through the miles. Running three miles on the riverbed was bad too.
Four stars for organization: well, the expo was tiny; it maybe had about what seemed like 15 vendors. For a race that claims 13,000 people, they should have a bigger expo.
Two stars for spectators: there simply were none, which is fine, but again, being that its OC, there should be a lot more people.
Other than that: the weather was perfect, the start time is great, and it's not too crowded up front. The pacer was perfect through our finish time of 3:20.
By: Shari R.
Posted: May 03, 2010
Beautiful course for the front half
The route through Corona Del Mar and the back bay of Newport are amazing. The volunteers are great, but because of the bike trail and some narrow streets, the races need better organization. Either a staggered start, better corrals, or limited entry would solve the problems. Lots of PR's on this beautiful course.
By: John K.
Posted: May 28, 2009
My first marathon
I must join the chorus of those who don't particularly care for point-to-point courses. I was lucky to get to the starting area early, so I availed myself of the porta-potties before the lines grew too horrific... and they were horrific. Whoever came up with the idea of arranging them in a horseshoe shape needs to do some explaining of his/her logic. The whole starting area seemed a bit muddled and poorly organized. The course, while scenic in many places, was rather lonely. There were very few spectators, and there was little course support at all. Several miles were run through the nature reserve, which, while undoubtedly beautiful, quickly grew tedious. Half-marathoners greatly outnumbered marathoners, and they seemed to take over the course in places. But that's only nit-picking, really. Their cheers of support at the half/full split were appreciated. The volunteers at the aid stations past mile 13 were wonderful, cheering on the straggling runners (such as myself). Even the local police would clap and give us a cheer. Running through a shopping mall parking lot and having to dodge afternoon shoppers was a bit bizarre, though. Who thought that would be a good idea? All in all, it was a fine first-marathon experience. This could be a first-class event. I think it's on its way to being so. I think it just needs a bit more tweaking and finessing before it becomes a must-run event.
By: Dave L.
Posted: May 17, 2009
the good, the bad and the ugly
The Good
1. Enjoyed the first half of the course. The run through the Back Bay was enjoyable.
2. Volunteers were helpful and very encouraging to the runners.
3. The medal along with the tech was well done.
4. The massage staff was awesome; they saved my legs.
The Bad
1. The narrow trail under P.C.H. was a bit nuts. I couldn't image if the field was full it would be bad. There was a lot of bumping and having to slow down.
2. The river part of the course at mile 21 was long and boring. There were few spectators, and there were bike riders to dodge. That area of the course is not spectator-friendly.
3. A start separating the half-marathoners from the full would be nice. It would be nice to see on-course timing too.
The Ugly
1. Paying to park at the expo is ridiculous. You are there for all of five minutes.
2. The starting area was confusing and the porta-potty situation was bad. I was a little surprised by the lack of trash cans in the starting area.
Personally, this was my first full marathon. (I've done two half-marathons before.) So, not knowing what to expect, I was still a little disappointed. That all said, I still enjoyed myself and expect to be back next year.
By: george m.
Posted: May 13, 2009
Very Good Event
I thought the entire event was very well organized and well supported. The course was about as flat and as interesting as you could reasonably expect in a densely-populated urban area. I run about 6 marathons and 5 half-marathons per year. This event will definitely be on my 2010 calendar.
By: Paul Moeller
Posted: May 12, 2009
Mediocre, but would consider the half next year
This was my 14th marathon. I live an hour away, so it was a convenient choice - though I did stay in the host hotel the night before the race (no day-of-race registration).
Overall impression: they have mapped out a decent course (especially the first half), done a relatively mediocre job of organizing things, done an exceptional job of recruiting enthusiastic volunteers, and done a pretty lousy job of giving this race any personality. It's a moderately easy course (mostly asphalt, with several miles on bike trails, and a few small and medium hills, the biggest of which is at mile 23). But the whole event had a very antiseptic, uninspired, "corporate" feel to it. There were many opportunities missed to inject more fun into the proceedings. I sensed little involvement or "buy-in" from the community. Geez - think of all of the ways they could riff off of the "Orange" theme.
The expo: About what I'd expect from a mid-sized event, with the usual types of vendors. The goody bag contained no pre-race instructions, and there was no swag (except for a pack of Clif Shots). All runners did receive an excellent, high-quality, technical t-shirt. I also snared a very nice technical running jacket for being one of the first 1,000 to register for the marathon. Since the expo was held at the Orange County Fairgrounds - where the race finishes ($5 parking each day) - it was beneficial to be able to scope out the finish area ahead of time.
Host/headquarters hotel& Newport Beach Marriott. Top-notch accommodations, wonderful staff, beautiful setting, convenient location (a few blocks away from the start), but not a single indication ANYWHERE that it was the OC Marathon's host hotel (except for the presence of folks who looked like runners). No signs, no balloons, nothing to welcome me or to orient me in any way. I don't even know if they had a carbo-load dinner (it was certainly not promoted if there was one), but there are many excellent restaurants very nearby. We had a marvelous, reasonably-priced Italian dinner at Amelia's Restaurant - a couple of miles away on Balboa Island.
Before the race: This is a point-to-point course, so many runners parked at the OC fairgrounds finish area, paid an extra fee, and took a shuttle bus to the start. I stayed at the host hotel and arranged to be picked up by my wife at the finish. I was able to walk from the hotel to the start area in about 5 minutes - though, again there were NO SIGNS anywhere!!! Nice PA system, with plenty of space and grassy areas nearby. But there was not a single trash can or porta-potty (or water) anywhere in sight, from the entire start area. I eventually discovered that the facilities were consolidated in an area a couple of blocks away - in the opposite direction from the hotel, at the shuttle bus drop-off location. If you were not arriving by shuttle bus, this counter-intuitive location would be easy to miss - as evidenced by dozens and dozens of runners looking in vain for some bushes prior to the start. There were over 6,000 runners entered in this race (between marathon and half-marathon), and perhaps 4 dozen porta-potties near the start. You do the math! Plus, the porta-potties were set up in a claustrophobic, u-shaped configuration, to insure maximum congestion and confusion waiting for, as well as exiting, that area.
The race/course: Began just a few minutes after the scheduled 6:30 a.m. start-time. There were 3 "voluntary" wave chutes at the start (sub-4 hours, 4-5 hours, over 5 hours). There were several pace groups, but the leaders were very hard to find. Again, there were NO SIGNS (except for one "rogue" 3:40 pacer). The full- and half-marathon runners started together (and shared the first 12 miles of the course). I did not feel overly cramped for the first few miles. Initially, the course is quite scenic, with a nice oceanfront stretch, and a smattering of spectators. At around mile 5, we were routed onto a bike trail and under a coast highway bridge. For the next quarter-mile, the congestion was so bad (among the 4:00-4:30 runners) that we literally stopped at points, and walked or jogged at other points. Most of miles 6-12 were on a narrow road/bike trail through the peaceful natural beauty of the Upper Newport Bay Eco Preserve. The next 7 miles were mostly through uninspiring business park areas - with a brief foray through a small park and a shopping center parking lot. Mile 20-23 was on a bike trail adjacent to the Santa Ana River, which is nothing more than a huge, unattractive, concrete drainage ditch. The last 3 miles were pleasant - trails and roads through a park, and attractive residential community, with a bit of a climb around mile 24. Nice finish in the OC Fairgrounds. For what it's worth: on the course, there were no split times - anywhere. There was no entertainment - anywhere. There was lots of water/PowerAde, but no gels, and not nearly enough porta-potties.
Post-race: Attractive medal. Minimal runner refreshments. Comfortable park-like setting, with shade and grass. No beer garden. Lots of "fair" food for sale. Live music. Spectator-friendly. Not too crowded - easy reunion with friends and family. Nice!
Final thoughts: Weather was a bit humid, and it was very sunny (there's not much shade). I would consider running the half-marathon next year (especially if they remedy the mile 5 bottleneck), but would definitely look elsewhere for a spring marathon - and would not recommend this as a first choice to my friends. There are too many alternatives out there to be wasting time, training and dollars on an event as mediocre and uninspired as this one.
By: Kyle EricSon
Posted: May 08, 2009
Still Improving the OC Marathon
I have run this marathon all 5 years that it has been in existence and commend the organizers for trying to improve it every year. I had very high hopes for the 2009 edition.
First off, there are many things to like about this race. Both the race and the expo are well run and organized, although I bristle at having to pay money to park at the expo since I'm typically only there for about 5 minutes to pick up my bib and chip. This year the first 1,000 participants were given technical jackets (by the way, does everybody's jacket zip on the left side instead of the right?), and in previous years we were given Avia (the main sponsor) running shoes. This year the medals are very nice and have the date of the race printed on them (last year they omitted that info to cram in the name of the sponsors), and we were also given technical running shirts instead of the standard cotton, white T-shirt.
Now, for the only disappointing aspect of the race, as far as I'm concerned, and that's the course itself. Although greatly improved over previous years, I STILL HATE POINT-TO-POINT COURSES! Boston can get away with this, because after all, it's Boston. However, all other races should start and finish at the same place. I would think you would save some money by not having to bus people from one place to another (although this year parking at the finish line and being bussed backed to the start line was much better than the other way around). Additionally, although the course itself is much better than previous years, we still spent far too much time on the "bike trail" (i.e., river bed) from miles 5 - 12 and then again from miles 20 - 23 (although thankfully this year there was no running down the middle of the 271 freeway as in years past). I understand how difficult it must be to get permits and road closures for a busy and congested area in Southern California, but the current course seems to suggest that the communities want the money that the runners bring into the local economies, but not the runners themselves.
All in all though, this is a good race which could become excellent if the organizers could ever devise a more runner friendly course.
By: Jen A.
Posted: May 06, 2009
Decent race, but some things need fixing!
What worked well: The weather; the [limited] specators were very encouraging and kind; the stretch around the Back Bay was beautiful; aid station volunteers were OUTSTANDING; finish area was organized and well stocked with post-race food/drink.
What needs fixing: the course - personally, I didn't enjoy running around the mall, business parks or bike path, and a better course would hopefully bring out more spectators; porta-potties at the start - terrible design; waiting till the week of the race to announce the sports drink made it impossible to train with it.
All in all, I think it was a good race, and I appreciate all of the work that went into the planning. I hope to be out there next year!
By: al l.
Posted: May 06, 2009
Time-splits seemed off
Good:
1. Plenty of volunteers.
2. Plenty of water and energy drinks.
Bad:
2. There was not a single clock along the course.
3. No gel/bars on the course.
By: josh b.
Posted: May 06, 2009
On its way
This has the makings of a fantastic marathon course. Contrary to previous postings, I thought it was very flat and fast. There was good variety too, going from the ocean, to the preserve, to the neighborhoods, with just a little unavoidable strip mall nastiness.
The expo seemed okay, as did the finish line, but the start was a mess. Porta-potties were arranged in a horseshoe shape, and there was no way to form orderly lines to get into them. There also were not enough of them. Additionally, they were a 1/4 mile or so from the actual startline. I also could find no water at the startline. I asked a volunteer about it, and she said that I could get water during the race.
That said, the course was fantastic, and the water stops were well-manned and organized. As far as I could tell, there were more volunteers at each water station than there were at the start line!
This has the makings of a great marathon. I PR'd and had a great time, despite some snags.
By: Marvin G.
Posted: May 05, 2009
Much Improved OC Course
This was my 2nd time running this course. This year it was a much more scenic and faster course. The first half was mainly along the water. The second half ran through town, then down a long bike trail, and then back to the fairgrounds.
The start was very crowded. I started in the "B" Corral and passed numerous walkers during the first mile?? Please, if you are a walker, stay at the back of the pack.
There was one ginormous hill out of Back Bay - maybe 60 feet(?) - but it was very short and came at mile 9, so no big deal. There was another big overpass to conquer at mile 14 over the 405, but not too bad either. There were two other gradual elevation climbs - one around mile 11 and another at the end, coming out of the bike trail (which was tough when your gas tank is fast approaching empty). Weather was good (in the 60's when we started), but the humidity was a bit high. We had to run against a headwind on the bike trail for at least 4 miles. This was tough, but fortunately, it was not a windy day. Overall, a fairly fast course, and this was the first time I ran a sub-4 marathon.
Aid stations were well stocked with water and PowerAde. Great volunteers and nice crowd support in many places. No gels, but this was disclosed on their website, so I brought my own.
The only major area for improvement revolved around the porta-potties. There were not enough at the start line. By 6 a.m., it looked like a 30-minute (or longer) line had formed. They probably needed at least 4 times as many. Then there were only 2 per aid station. I saw long lines. I also saw numerous people as early as mile 3 duck into the bushes to take care of "business." I know we have new owners for this year's race, but maybe they can learn from last year, where there were plenty of facilities for use.
Overall, with the exception of the porta-potties, this was an enjoyable and much improved course. I hope to be back next year.
By: Arla H.
Posted: May 05, 2009
Decent course, easy run
Like others have said, great first half! After that, it's a mixed bag. Plenty of course support, although no gels (I have my own favorites, anyway). Not too crowded! Pretty flat; the worst hills are only freeway overpasses (or about the same size as overpasses) - and there are only a few.
By: Quang X. Pham
Posted: May 05, 2009
Second time is a charm...
I ran my first marathon (OC) in January 2008 in the rain. It was uphill in the second half and wound around an old military base with limited spectators at the end. The new course (2009 race) was 100% better, with routing improvement and finish line. Spectators lined Mile 25 to the finish at the OC Fairgrounds. The race will continue to improve in 2010. And hopefully, my time will too.
By: Scott Z.
Posted: May 05, 2009
Great but needs porta-potties and gels
I had a great time, but the porta-potties were a shame. Thousands of over-hydrated runners were all trying to squeeze into a tiny, chaotic circle of porta-potties. I was OK, but the girls were literally crying with nowhere to pee.
No gels or bars during the race.
The course was fun, but it got very tight in two sections, which slowed us down quite a bit. I will try it again next year if they promise to fix the porta-potties.
By: Tom L.
Posted: May 05, 2009
much improved
The race has gotten much better since I participated 2 years ago. The course now has characteristics of what a SoCal race should have. Also, it has seemingly better organization (with corrals at the start), and a separate race for the kids. I did see some fan support (granted, it is 6:30 on Sunday morning), but since I ran the half, I can't comment about the full marathon. Overall, it's vastly improved, and I will think about doing it again next year.
By: Lorie S.
Posted: May 05, 2009
Great course; MORE porta-potties; better parking
I ran the half. Great course. Beautiful weather. Spectacular scenery. Loved running Back Bay. Spectators were encouraging. Goal was to PR. On track until I had to wait 14 minutes for the porta-potty! Definitely need at least half a dozen at each mile. Exit from parking was terrible - needs to be much better organized so that it doesn't take 45 minutes to reach an exit.
By: Chris K.
Posted: May 05, 2009
NIce new course but there are issues
In general, I really liked this course more than the previous one; and in general, the organization in terms of water stops, police control, and volunteers was great - but they really needed more porta-potties, especially at the start.
Also, the new course is somewhat constrained: a good portion of the first half of the course is on a bike lane and sidewalk or bike path, which is fairly narrow for the number of people running. There was one point on the course where the path crossed under the Pacific Coast Highway and the congestion was so bad that we actually came to a stop. I foresee real difficulties if a lot more people sign up for the race.
By: Dianne W.
Posted: May 04, 2009
Great new course, good organization!
The first half of the course was awesome! The second half was much less interesting, but does it matter, after mile 16? Overall, great new course! It would be neat to get more spectators out there to cheer you on and have a beer garden at the finish line! : )
By: Aymed T.
Posted: May 04, 2009
THIS MARATHON WAS LAME
I was looking forward to this marathon for months. I decided to complete this one instead of the San Diego Rock and Roll, and boy am I disappointed. This has been by far the worst marathon EVER! Almost everything about it was disappointing. When I arrived at the fair grounds they charged me for parking ($5). Once at the expo, there were very few vendors, I basically walked the whole expo in 5 minutes. The goody bag was empty, with only a pack of gel shots - yuck! The shirt they gave out was the only decent item. On race day, they charged for parking AGAIN! I could not believe that, especially since they charged me an entrance fee of $107. The starting line was poorly organized. It was really difficult for me to get up to speed because there were way too many people, most doing the half-marathon. The water stations were not at every mile. The course was dull, with lots of hills. When passing by residential areas, there were some spectator cheering the runners, but overall the race felt really boring. I would not recommend it. Seriously.
By: Geoff S.
Posted: May 04, 2009
Making Great Improvements
The new course is a significant improvement, taking you seaside, through the nature preserve area, and over mostly quality roads. The support was exactly what was needed, with plenty of volunteers at stations, water and sport drink not running out, and good enthusiasm from the staff. Out of 8000+ runners, fewer than 1400 did the full 26.2, making the start/self-corral method a little dense. The things to know for next year: 1. Miles 20 through 25 are lonely, running alongside the aqueduct/golf course, with minimal support from staff or fans. Bicyclists out for Sunday rides also use this path, possibly causing dodge/collision situations. 2. Harbor Blvd. (Mile 25) was semi-open to cars, causing a few runners to stop upon PD direction. Not the place you want to stop for traffic, depending on the condition of your legs. 3. The overpass for the 405 between mile 20-21 is quite an elevation gain. I'm not saying that they should change the course to go around it; I'm saying to runners that this is a challenging climb. 4. The dirt portion through Fairview Park (mile 23-24) surprised me, since we'd been on paved path until then. All it takes is a little rain, and that becomes a major issue. That could be something to look at next year.
Overall, a good, new course. Major props to the organizers for their improvements, and I may be back next year, depending on the registration fee (this cost as much as an RnR Marathon). Maybe if we had more full-marathoners, the fee could come down? I recommend this marathon.
By: Melissa B.
Posted: May 04, 2009
Ooohhh my quads!
The Back Bay was pretty and the weather for the first half was great! The hills killed my quads too! I'm definitely walking funny today. The Santa Trail was pretty boring... could have used an additional water station with people cheering us on out there. The police officers did an awesome job of controlling traffic.
By: Jim Doti
Posted: May 04, 2009
OC Beautiful
Fabulous new course. Terrific organization. The OC Marathon has dreams of greatness, and with the 2009 race, it went a long way toward making those dreams come true.
By: Teresa V.
Posted: May 04, 2009
great course; need more port-a-potties
I loved the course, which was varied and scenic. They need more port-a-potties, though; lines were too long to stop. Also, I would have liked more liquid nourishment at the end.
By: Gavin McKiernan
Posted: May 04, 2009
great, flat course; well organized
Great race, even though I had a poor result. Course was really nice; plenty of volunteers at water stations, I was wondering if everyone got to the start line in time. A lot were waiting when I got on my bus and I only had a couple minutes to spare. It was billed as a net downhill, I think, but my Garmin said that it was slightly uphill. There were only a couple of hills in the whole thing though, and they were brief hills, like when the route went over the 405 Freeway. The first couple of miles were mostly downhill though.
The half-marathon splits at mile 12, which I like because it gives you more people to run with at the beginning.
Weather in '09 couldn't have been much better - 60 degrees and overcast at start. The sun came out after about 3:30 after the start gun.
Post-race food was sparse: bagels, bananas, chocolate milk, oranges and Clif Shot Blocs. That's it. It's a mostly quiet course, with no bands or music, and few fans. The course is good and diverse; we ran through parks, shopping malls, residential areas, by the ocean, and by the performing arts center, It had a little bit of everything. It was a big enough course that it thinned out quickly in the first few miles; I cant remember a race where I had so little trouble passing people in the early going.
By: Sharon N.
Posted: May 04, 2009
Awesome course for a Boston Qualifier
Great course and organization. Scenic, many spectators and volunteers, and a variety of areas that we ran through (near the beach, Back Bay reserve, park bike trail, residential, and business). The business area was lonely because there were no spectators. Only suggestion I have is to have more port-a-potties at the start line.
By: Ken W.
Posted: May 04, 2009
Good Race
The course (for the half-marathon) was great. Nice scenery (mostly) and it was just challenging enough. I would like to run it again. My only (constructive) criticism would be regarding the pace groups. I was happy to see pace groups advertised for the half-marathon and intended to run with one. At the start of the race, though, the group I intended to run with (1:50 for the half) was right behind the one in front (much faster than a 1:50 pace) and I never saw the next group at all. Otherwise, a fun, challenging course (even if the spectators were dead silent at the end) and I'm looking forward to next year.
By: R. Ramirez
Posted: May 04, 2009
Beautiful and fast course. Loved it.
There was plenty of parking close to the start. The course was beautiful; it had great views of the Pacific Ocean, running around Back Bay, into Irvine and Santa Ana, and then back to Costa Mesa. The last 10 miles were quite lonely. Absolutely no crowd support. I was generous in giving 2 stars, but didn't see any people out on the course. I would do it again. This was a much better course than they had in '08. The weather was perfect for running. Finish line goodies were ok: bananas, water and bagels. I wish OC had a better turnout, but with San Diego and Los Angeles in the same month, it must be hard. Thanks again for a great race.
By: Beth M.
Posted: May 04, 2009
A few glitches but still a good experience
I ran the half-marathon and couldn't have asked for better race-day conditions: temps in the 60's, a light breeze, and a bit overcast, so the sun wasn't beating down on us. The course was fairly flat and wound through residential streets, the Pacific Coast Highway, and the beautiful Back Bay nature preserve. The marathon and half-marathon split off around mile 12 and the last mile in for the half-marathon was a boring, quiet stretch down side streets and through a parking lot to a well-hidden finish line.
Spectator support was sparse for much of the course but in sections it was very enthusiastic. It was great to get a true flavor of OC when women in pajamas outside their homes were offering racers mimosas. The spectators along the hill around mile 9.5 were awesome and really helped make it up the short but steep hill.
Overall, it was well-organized, with clear directions for folks getting dropped off in the morning at the start line and well-staffed aid stations. The one downside was the bag check. After finishing the half-marathon, it took me a good 20 minutes to find the bag pick-up area (there were no directions or signs to the bag pick-up). Once I finally located the bag pick-up, I discovered that not only was there only one race volunteer working the station, but the bags also had not been unloaded from the truck yet, nor had they been placed in the truck in any sort of order. A bunch of racers and I climbed in to the truck and had to sort through hundreds of bags and help organize them into bins in order to find our bags. I've run quite a few half-marathons and several marathons, and I've never seen a bag pick-up so poorly organized before. There were a TON of volunteers otherwise throughout the course; perhaps the OC organizers should take some of the people handing out medals and food at the end (there were so many of them it was tough to walk through the finish area) and move them to the bag area next year so tired racers don't have to dig through piles of bags to find their belongings.
Otherwise, though, a great race and I'd do it again next year.
By: Cindy M.
Posted: May 04, 2009
good course, horrible organization
I understand that it was a new course, and it was nice. However, there were absolutely NO instructions in the race packet; there was very poor (no) directional signage to the expo (which was several miles from the host hotel at a fairgrounds); and there were no directions to the start line (which was about half a mile from the host hotel - thank goodness for the hotel concierge), and we had to scramble to figure out how to get back from the finish line to our hotel, since it was a point-to-point course with no race-sponsored shuttles.
The course was net downhill. I ran along some pretty beach neighborhoods and then through the preserved wetlands. It was very serene and quiet, with not much crowd support, but the course really didn't lend itself to it.
Water was plentiful, but there was no PowerAde as promised until mile 10. If you had to make a pit stop on the course, you had at least a 10-15-minute wait, as the johns were few and far between. And oh, who in their right mind puts the start line johns in a horseshoe shape????
Nice course; I would run the half again but would lower my expectations for the organizers.
By: Pamela K.
Posted: May 03, 2009
Nice, flat course
I did this race back in 2007, when it was really hilly. This course was much, much better. There were plenty of water stops, and the course was very scenic - especially the first half. I loved finishing at the fairgrounds, and parking was really easy. Things for the race directors to work on: the porta-potties at the start were shaped like an open square, all facing in - oh, the smell and confusing lines - and this could have easily been fixed by turning one row of them around. The porta-potties for the first 14 miles had very long lines. Those at the end had none, so why not put just one each mile after mile 14 and put those extra (there were two every mile) 11 towards the beginning of the race? When I signed up, the website said I could catch a bus from 4:30 to 6 to get to the start. Once I signed up I received a mandatory bus time. A little bait and switch. I knew this couldn't possibly be regulated so I went as late as I could. Had I been there when they said to, I would have had to get up at 3 a.m., drive for half an hour to the finish line, get to the start, and stand around for an hour and a half just waiting to run. Making mandatory bus times just stressed EVERYONE out and yet was totally unnecessary. Most people are nervous and will go early because they don't feel safe until they are at the start within good time. If they do get there late, that's what the chip is for. All in all, a wonderful race. Hats off to the new race directors for a well organized, beautiful, new race. I will be back next year for sure.
By: Roberta R.
Posted: May 03, 2009
First time; great experience
I walked the half-marathon. The volunteers and community people were awesome.
By: Christina V.
Posted: May 03, 2009
They Finally Got the Course Right
This is my third time running the OC Marathon. After changing the course each year, they finally created a route that was challenging, with great fan support. There were water stations at almost every mile and no students this year! The only negative is that it is not completely flat and fast, as advertised; but I still beat my PR by 30 minutes and almost qualified for Boston. The pace groups were also accurate according to my husband who was a fan and spectator at the finish line. I would definitely do it again.
By: Dennis H.
Posted: February 21, 2008
Good marathon, but not like the advertisement
Good marathon but the course isn't even near the ocean. Its just residential areas and a farm area in the second half. The weather was also horrible, since it rained and then there were winds. There were great pace groups, which helps a lot.
By: Tessa L.
Posted: February 01, 2008
Not a bad marathon overall.
First time I have run Orange County and I was favourably impressed. Course gave us a good overview of most of the area, I'm sorry we didn't get to the beach; however, I imagine there are road closure issues. If I want to run along the beach, there are several choices, including Huntington Beach the next month, Big Sur in April, and Palos Verdes in May. OC never claimed to be a seaside race.
Start was OK, but corrals would be very nice. I felt the students added a lot of energy and excitement to the start, and although I found myself doing a lot of "On your left...on your right...," it wasn't any worse than other largish marathons. Once the split occurred at mile 8.5, we had all the room we could wish for.
I've never run on the freeway before and that was surreal, running down the highway in the misty rain. The bike path portion was very pretty, and seeing the areas that had been impacted by the wildfires was an eye-opener. I didn't think the gradient changes were overwhelming.
My only complaints are to do with the finish line. I had to ask a number of people where bag check was, and I had a hard time getting my bearings and finding my car after the bus dropped us off. Please remember that not all of us live in Orange County and we don't know the Fashion Island area. Perhaps provide a map of the parking lots so we could mark where our cars are and stuff it in our gear bags to refer to after the race?
Clocks at every mile were a very nice touch. I have no idea what the sports drink was (pink?), but no big deal. I'm old enough to remember when LAM made a big deal of having two - count-them-folks-TWO - aid stations with energy drink (1989). Plenty of gel and water available on the course. Overall, a good marathon; I may well be back if I want another early January race. It's certainly an incentive to keep training through the holiday season!
By: Rob K.
Posted: January 15, 2008
Not bad, could be better
I would love 2 changes:
1. Have some sort of formal or informal corral system based upon pace to help avoid having the walkers and super slow runners clog the start for the first 1/2 mile. It is SO frustrating to waste energy avoiding the SRLA kids - and even worse, the walkers who start in the front. I cannot fathom why walkers (and semi-walker/joggers) would start near the front.
2. It would be great if the course could be changed to avoid the boring toll road and the mostly uphill grade from about 15 to about 23.
Overall, the conditions were great and it was a fun race.
By: Laurence C.
Posted: January 14, 2008
A beautiful but somewhat quiet course.
Some parts of the course are very pretty and the weather was good for running. However, I was surprised that there were no bands and cheerleaders along the course at all. Also, the organizer should separate the half marathoners from the full marathoners by 30 minutes, like most other marathons. Since the paces for the half and full marathoners are very different, it is not right to have the two groups run together, especially in the first 8 miles of the course where some sections were kind of narrow.
Overall, the bathroom and water stations along the course were adequate. However, I was very surprised that there is no date on the marathon medal, which should be corrected in future races.
By: Kenneth M.
Posted: January 12, 2008
Tough course; plenty of water, rain & hail!
No souvenir shirts at the expo was the first disappointment. Why run a marathon if you can't have a t-shirt? (In all fairness they did give you a finisher's shirt but it didn't say "finisher" on it!) The kids were all over the course, but after the mile 8 1/2 split the full marathoners had the back side all to themselves. No food at the finish was also a real bummer but I guess the full marathoners are expected to finish at the same time as the halfers if they want something to eat. The finisher's medal was very disappointing; plenty of space to add the sponsors' names, but none for the date of the race!
Next year I'd like to see them at least start the marathoners 1 hour before the 1/2 and keep the sponsors' names on the giveaway shirts. Then I will consider running again.
By: Eddie Hahn
Posted: January 11, 2008
Improvements, relapses
Not much can be done by race directors regarding weather unless the race is moved to a different time of year. That being said, this year's course weather conditions were close to perfect.
Overcast gray skies with few if any rain drops and temps in the 50s probably aided more than one runner going for a fast time.
(By comparison last year's temps for 4-hour marathoners reached the high 70s.)
Early portions of the marathon were clogged with many Students Run LA (five or six abreast) - no concern to me, as I wasn't going for a peak performance. Nonetheless, I do agree with the postings that relate to this.
Water only up to the 8 mile point - thereafter an energy drink every other stop along with "double-espresso" Clif shots.
The finish was well organized, and the recovery area was relocated to the right, which eased congestion. It was controlled by volunteers, which prevented it from being overrun as with many other similar sized marathons I have competed in.
Oranges, cookies, tortilla chips, granola, etc. were included in the fare, and samples of shower gels and free soap bars were given out near the entrance.
The long-sleeve, white, cotton, race-logo'd t-shirt is a near replica of last year, and has a ton of advertising on the back.
The race packet included a little coin purse, and, the biggest perk of all: a free, nice pair of Avia shoes to the first 1,000 entered!
Unfortunately the price tag included with the shoes appears to be the admission of "Avia" (and "Nuta-lite") onto the race finisher's medal, and the omission of the date!!
By: Kyle EricSon
Posted: January 09, 2008
No Real Improvement From Last Year
First off, before anybody starts complaining, please don't blame the organizers for the weather (yes, we got a little bit of rain - that happens in SoCal in January and you can't expect the organizers to control it!). What I do find disappointing however is that the organizers don't seem to listen (or maybe care) about what real runners expect from a marathon. The start of this race is still way too crowded with 1,000 marathoners and 5,000 1/2 marathoners all starting together on only one side of the street. Throw that together with a lot of walkers and "RUN LA" kids all insisting on starting at the front of the pack, and it becomes a real mess.
Then there's the course, which is basically unchanged for the last three years and has you running down the 261 freeway, around a closed El Toro Marine Base and through an industrial park, all of which add up to a less than scenic course. Additionally, this is a point-to-point course and after finishing you have to ride a school bus 15 miles back to your car (a sure recipe for muscle cramps).
Short of these fact, the race itself is well run, with a good but small expo (I got a free pair of Avia's for being one of the first to register), a nice finisher's medal, the typical white cotton T-shirt, and the water stops are well stocked and professional (at least when I went through - I finished the marathon in 3:25).
I'll probably keep running this race as it fits into my schedule and serves as a nice final long run prior to the Surf City Marathon in Huntington Beach four weeks later, but if the organizers are really serious about putting on a first-class event, they are going to have to alter this boring course (have they forgotten that the Pacific Ocean is only a couple of miles away?).
By: Travel M.
Posted: January 07, 2008
Great race
This was a great races; however, the previous reporter was right on about the kids and the walkers. They are my only complaint. It was nice to see so many people from all over participating in such a big even but those darn kids were all over the place causing traffic jams and accidents. The SRLA kids are like this in general. I have seen them in action at various races. The walkers were just as bad. They needed to be in the back or on the side because the start was nothing further from a mess for those who were really running.
By: masako r.
Posted: January 07, 2008
Many many student runners without etiquette
The student runners started so fast and ran between other runners, bumping elbows for the first few miles. Then they just stopped (tired), in front of steady-paced runners like me. They threw cups in front of my sneakers. Please do something with those student runners. I like idea that they can experience a long run, but they really could use some etiquette and common sense.
The bib pick-up was easy and fast. After-race food and shuttle were easy and fast.
By: Shannon T.
Posted: January 07, 2008
Too Many Kids!!! No Gatorade as Promised!
My experience was not great. I hated the herd-type start. I wasn't able to get up to pace for nearly 1/2 a mile. I felt that there were far too many kids participating that didn't care about the race. This was my first 1/2 marathon and I found it especially challenging getting through all the kids walking 6-7 side-by-side, across the narrow pathways. They were all so rude and inconsiderate to the serious participants. I was also very disappointed that there was no Gatorade for the later finishers like me. I intentionally didn't carry any Gatorade because the event said it would be provided. I doubt I'll do this event again.
By: Sandy H.
Posted: January 07, 2008
My first marathon
This was my first marathon. All in all I'm glad I did it. I don't think I will do this one again, unless the course changes. I was not expecting that many inclines. I was expecting more spectators and music. Most of the time I was running/walking by myself. Also, what happened to the scenic route I read about on the website? I was hoping to run by the ocean.
One thing that really bothered me was at the end. I made it before the 7-hour cut-off. When I came through the finish line, it was total silence. Some other folks coming in around the same time as me (myself included) had to ask for our medal. There was no more food, and everyone was already packed up to leave. If the cut-off time for the marathon is 7 hours, then all folks coming in before that should get the attention they deserve.
All in all, thank you to the many volunteers donating their time!!!
By: Arturo R.
Posted: January 07, 2008
great event.
Generally speaking, the marathon was very well organized, I would only include corrals next year to provide a smooth start, with everybody running at similar paces. This year there were a significant number of kids from LA, running another race within the marathon. They were crossing paths with no manners at all. in addition, there were some people in the front line who started the marathon walking. If they want to do so, they should go to the back of the pack.
I found the route fairly good and the volunteers did an excellent job throughout the race.
By: angela y.
Posted: January 07, 2008
Post-Race Improvements..
My first OC Marathon. It was ok.. I'm not sure if the course was representative of what OC is all about, though. Saw a lot of new condo and apt complexes and the freeway run was kind of cool, but a promise of a little more variety for next year's run would make me sign up for it again. Nice long-sleeve shirt and medal. Weather was cool and rainy towards the end with a short adamant burst of hail. Not too bad, actually kind of fun knowing others were as exhilaratingly miserable as you were. :)
The course was a little monotonous but I guess that's Irvine.
To the organizers, everything was great (Whole Foods, thanks for the shampoo samples! And I've never seen so many ClifShot stations....) but PLEASE improve the drop-off situation for the post-race. To include myself, LOTS of folks were very lost when dropped off by the Bus Man. It was almost like we were left to ourselves in the middle of some business complexes - if we weren't so cold, tired, and wet, I wouldn't have felt half as abandoned.... Sorry, but we were all lost. It was very dark when we parked our cars in the designated areas in the a.m., and given that Fashion Island and its adjacent lots cover a lot of land, it was very difficult for an out-of-towner like myself to quickly find my car spot. I walked around for 30 minutes. Felt kinda stupid but too cold to ditch my space blanket as I walked through the entire mall area trying to find the start spot.... Why did the organizers choose to select a drop-off point that was different from the start area?? I think this is the biggest improvement that can be made for next year. We were all looking for Edwards Cinema, just so we could back-track our ways back to our respective cars. Maybe there could be buses that go back to specific lots the next time (parking area A, B, etc.).
Overall, the marathon was good, the organization of the course was great, but the logistical minutiae could improve some. Thanks!
By: Preston P.
Posted: January 07, 2008
More uphill running than expected, but a fine run
The organization was great - from registration, to expo, to bib pick up. This was the first time I stayed at the race hotel - and the shuttle and access were good. The course was more uphill than the elevation chart led me to believe. But once you get past mile 22 and make the right hand turn on Alton (?), it is downhill for the last four miles. I liked the mix of road, highway, bike path, and back to road. The Clif pacer was great - though he dropped me at mile 22 and I finished 2 minutes behind my goal time. The water stations and the volunteers were great. Lots of water, sports drink, and gel along the course. Two issues: the start should have corrals. The instructions state it is voluntary. The first three miles involved a lot of weaving between runners who should have started farther back. And second, there was a lot of congestion because half marathoners run with the marathoners until mile 8.5 when they split off from the marathon course. I enjoyed the people I met and ran with.
By: B. L.
Posted: January 06, 2008
Decent, but NO sports drinks until mile 11
The good: Overall this wasn't too bad. The first several miles are on well-groomed streets, then onto neighborhoods, and then on a bike trail next to a wash-out. It was very quiet. I saw like 3 groups of people cheering. If you need spectators cheering you on, then you should find another race. If you like a quiet, solitary course, then this may be for you. The post-race food was standard in an (overall) declining industry where the bottom line seems to trump the integrity of the event.
THE BAD: First off, I respect all of the volunteers getting up way to early to give up a Sunday. My only comment (and I hope the director(s) take this seriously: Do not send 'tweens to direct parking. These young teenage girls/kids had NO clue on what to do. They were in the dark street on a curve making timid gestures that looked like they were dancing to an Avril song as opposed to directing traffic. As a result I witnessed 2 near collisions and one near miss on the 'tween girl. This is dangerous! PLEASE select proper volunteers and "train" them on what to do. Don't throw kids an orange vest and assume all will be fine.
THE UGLY: There was NO sports drinks until around mile 11. This is unacceptable! The info said there would be (sports drink) stations sooner. Just to make sure, I asked several others and they confirmed this. If the powers that be are not going to serve sports drinks until mile 11, then at least have the decency to post conspicuous signs at the expo stating this so participants who paid close to a hundred bucks know what they are up against and can carry their own fluids. I'd rather be told upfront that replenishment fluids are too much to ask for in a modern urban marathon so I can bring my own. I bonked hard! To add salt to the wound, the organizers and mayor bragged about how much planning went into this. If not for this fatal and inexcusable flaw, the race wouldn't have been half bad.
I won't do this again but I wouldn't discourage others - IF the directors can pull it together.
By: sue michaelson
Posted: January 06, 2008
Race results for my age and time are wrong
Course was very boring, for the full marathon. There was no water available at the end. The volunteers and water stations were excellent.
By: Nahu G.
Posted: January 06, 2008
I made the best out of the great day
Yes, it was quiet, with not a whole lot of cheering (maybe next year go to a local high school and do some arm twisting). I was hoping to accomplish my previous time, but that did not happen. All I can say is: Thank you for all those people who make it possible for us - from volunteers to the director of operations. It was a lot of thing to consider for next time. I have met a lot of angels; and I made the best out of my day. Without you guys, there will not be any marathon; let us learn from our mistake and to make it better for next year. LORD willing, I see you next year.
I also want to thank parents and instructors for encouraging those kids to participate, even one of the previous comments was complaining about them. Hi bud - if they gave up on you, you would not have been with us today. I'd rather see them doing the right thing.
By: Barbara W.
Posted: May 05, 2007
22 miles uphill and very quiet - very little music
It was the quietest marathon I've ever run. I'm running my 46th in 2 weeks. The 22 miles of incline were harder than most marathons. The weather was great.
By: Daniel B.
Posted: February 26, 2007
Peaceful Course
This was my first marathon and I was actually quite pleased with the course. I'm surprised to read other comments about the lack of support and the "boring" course. Maybe I'm just used to the act of running being a peaceful, solitary, outdoor event, but that is what made this course quite enjoyable for me. I finished in about 3:30, so maybe the crowd was a bit more thinned out, but for many stretches it was just me, the road and the nice weather. Can't complain and I'll be back next year.
By: Cliu L.
Posted: February 04, 2007
Course in Inland Irvine
Even though the starting point was by Fashion Island in Newport Beach, the course was mainly in inland Irvine. It was hot and dusty with no view of the ocean. 2nd half of the marathon course was mainly on a freeway and on streets with dirt and irrigations on both sides. There were not a lot of spectators cheering, especially on the freeway. However, as a walker instead of a runner, I do appreciate those who provided water and electrolytes all the way to the end. I also was impressed with the organization. There were many bikers riding their bikes back and forth during the last few miles to encourage people to keep going. I don't plan to go back to this marathon though. There was nothing much to see on this course, and inland Irvine was pretty hot and dusty.
By: Linda L.
Posted: January 28, 2007
Too crowded
This race gets increasingly crowded. You'd think that after 3 years, they'd come up with corrals or wave starts. Nope. All the half and all the full marathoners begin at once and down the narrow paths they go. It never really thinned out after the split for the full and the half. There were too many kids all over the course with no race manners. And why do this point-to-point? Very annoying. Around mile 9-10 they ran out of sport drink. I would never do this one again.
By: Danette S.
Posted: January 27, 2007
Half is better than full
I've run the half twice now, and from what I hear (from my other friends in my running club who have run the marathon) the half is probably better.
I do have some comments on it. If a marathon is to dig deep in your soul and accomplish, then this is the race for you. If you absolutely need people to feed off for energy then stick to the mega marathons in big cities.
By: Peter Y.
Posted: January 26, 2007
Great Family Event
The OC Marathon was a great event for my entire family. I ran the half marathon this year, my wife ran in the 5K and I finished in time to watch my daughter and son participate in the Kids' 1.2K run. And afterwards, we walked across the street to the Irvine Spectrum and had a great lunch! The half marathon course was really nice with changing scenery through residential areas, a community park, bike trails and business parks. The course has some gradual inclines, which made it somewhat challenging but not leg-busting. I learned from previous comments that this course is nowhere close to the beach, but I did check it out on Google Earth and it gave me a good idea of what to expect. This is a great tool if you're interested in checking out other courses.
The event was well organized from the expo to the finish line activities. At the end of the race, there was plenty of food and water available, at least when I finished. Volunteers were great. There was plenty of parking at the finish area - my wife dropped me off earlier at the starting line, which was very convenient. My only disappointment was the lack of spectators along the course. But, for a medium-sized event, I will definitely keep this on the calendar for next year.
By: Eddie Hahn
Posted: January 21, 2007
"Tonson" Saves the Day
I want to give a special thanks to "Tonson," the 3:40 group leader. Out of the 76 marathons I have done, I am hard pressed to remember a more energetic, friendly, well-informed runner with more comedic ancedotes than this official pacer. Accordingly, viewing results, I noted he ran right at his goal pace time. I hope some other runners were able to meet their goals by running with him.
(Unfortunatly I dropped off when the moderate hill grades took a toll, and the temperature increased about 10 degrees during the last hour and a half of my run). At the start it was 50 degrees, when I finished (4 hours later it was 70). I took note of a runner getting CPR at the finish.
Concerning other aspects of the race; I offer a few observations.
The expo was a nice, large affair with plenty of selection, variety, and free samples. (The unoffical vendors outside the expo were looking for a quick buck vending all kinds of over-priced refreshments). I really like the nice OC Marathon black pull-over, lightweight, nylon jacket that was given to the first 1,000 marathon enterants, and for wearing a pair of red New Balance shoe laces (during the marathon) (mailed the week before) the New Balance team gave a nice little red nylon velcro accessory bag at the finish.)
The t-shirt is white, cotton, and long-sleeve, with the race logo. The medal, suspended by a white ribbon, displays: "OC Marathon" and their logo.
Post-race goodies were awesomely refreshing after that debacle in Las Vegas last month. They had a lot of stuff and plenty of it - I felt I got my money's worth.
The course is surprisingly rural, as described by others. I found it to be a unique mix of undeveloped farm land - a rarity in southern California - with a mix of freeways and bike paths. It isn't particularly scenic and I wouldn't recommend it to first-timers who aren't familiar with the area, because it's such a "self motivator" in terms of lack of crowd support.
By: T. L.
Posted: January 18, 2007
Please change the course
I ran the half in this event and, for the most part, it was fairly pleasant. It was, however, not as the website claimed. The start was at a very nice spot close to the coast, but the route quickly moved inland. for the first 6 miles there were some spectators, but afterwards they were pretty sparse. The course was slightly downhill in the first half but ended with a long incline (didn't think I'd get up that hill). Didn't see any water (unless you count the riverbeds) as you would expect to see in Southern CA. I know there must be logistical problems with trying to change this, but it would add imeasurably to the event. Didn't mind the point-to-point course, but out-and-back might be better. Volunteers were all great, as usual, and should be commended for donating their time. Didn't see a lot of entertainment on the course, which would have helped some runners. Good finish amenities, and food and drinks were plentiful. As this was only the third year for this event, I wasn't terribly disappointed, but a change in the course would be a step or two in the right direction.
By: Jen M.
Posted: January 17, 2007
First Half - Not Bad
This was my first half marathon. I would have to say that next time I will better research the course. The only time the course was completely flat was the last 3 miles. Otherwise, it's a gradual incline or quick declines throughout. There wasn't any music along the course, but it was nice to have the aid stations every 1.5 miles. The race was extremely well organized and the weather was picture-perfect.
By: Ruth Morrow
Posted: January 13, 2007
Beauty in the coastal foothills
After a mass start with the half-marathon, the first part is mostly flat to downhill on streets (loooong street down miles 2-4). Starting at miles 8.5 for a mile (and then later in the course as well), the course ran on paved bike paths. The only true asphalt moment was the fairly lengthy stretch on the tollway around miles 12-14 (no, we didn't have to pay). The course is ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS for an urban run - hilly, and ALL streets (including the tollway) were closed to traffic (there were some bicyclists and walkers on the bike paths). Well organized run with a 7-hour limit and a good mid-sized expo. This marathon is a definite keeper!
By: Gary W.
Posted: January 11, 2007
A one-time marathon
I usually overlook little quirks in marathons, mainly because the positives usually outweigh the negatives. Not OC. This course has a lot of long, boring stretches, especially after mile 8 when the half and full marathoners branch off into different directions. A lot of inclines with headwinds that never seem to stop. Never-ending exposure to the sun. Mile markers that are way off. Very few spectators, and the ones that did show up didn't seem to know how to cheer on the participants. Very little entertainment - maybe 3 bands total. The most scenic part of the course involved fields of crops.
Again, I usually am not one to complain, but every quirk is magnified when they ALL appear in the same race. I don't know who this race is for. I wouldn't recommend it to first-timers because this race doesn't represent what a marathon is all about very well, and they wouldn't want to run another one. It also isn't for anyone looking for a PR. The brightest selling point for this race is the time of year it takes place, because there isn't a whole lot going on otherwise.
On the positive side, the organization and volunteers were good. Still, this is a one-time marathon for me.
By: Victor H.
Posted: January 10, 2007
This Race was BAD
I thought that after two years of mistakes they could have figured out how to run a marathon. Well, I was wrong. The race director, Bill Sumner, should stick to coaching high school running. This marathon should be the Irvine Marathon - no beach running and a few fans along the course. DO ANOTHER MARATHON. PASS ON THIS EVENT.
By: Callie L.
Posted: January 09, 2007
Horrible Course, Few Spectators
Granted, this was my first marathon. Maybe I was expecting too much. But after long hearing about the camaraderie and the excitement of the marathon, I was disappointed that this lacked all of that.
Spectator viewing areas were limited to 4 on the website, and the directions to each had some errors, which made it hard for my family to get to each spot. This was a great disappointment, especially as I realized while running that there were several better options that we hadn't been aware of prior.
The course itself was brutal and boring. The first 10 miles were packed with people, the way I had expected, but once the half split from the full, the course emptied out, and while I could see other runners ahead of me, I was often running alone. This has nothing to do with the marathon planning, but it wouldn't have been so bad if the route had been better.
Instead, we were running on freeways and up and down on-ramps. At one point we were even running on a paved trail next to a ditch under the overpass. The website shows the bay and "stunning architecture," which I saw none of. Maybe people who are from the area could look at the map and know where it was, but being from out of town I was depending on the information on the the site, which was misleading. The race was held in Orange County, but considering the course, this race could've been held in practically any big city in the country. None of Orange County's attractiveness was taken advantage of.
Next is the incline. While there were few big hills, miles 12-21 were at an almost constant incline. It was wearing and tiring, and by mile 20 I just needed it to be over (and I am well trained and in good shape). To add insult to injury, there were 2 hills AFTER mile 23 that made me want to throw something at the race director.
All of that would have been easier if there had been more spectators, and I truly believe that there would have been more if the race was held on a more accessible route. The groups that WERE there cheering us on were so appreciated, and it would have been nice to have had that energy throughout.
The volunteers and the aid stations were great. I finished in under 4 hours, and nothing was ever out and they were always efficient. The start and finish lines were well run and easy to manuever.
The only other thing that really bothered me was the attitude of the race organizers at the end. I went back to the finish to see my results around 6 and a half hours after the race began, and the booth was gone, along with much of the rest of the finish line festivities. People were now handing out medals rather than placing them over the heads of people, and there was much less support. I couldn't believe that they were packing up and leaving while there were still people out there running. I realize that they had been out there for nearly 7 hours, but there were still people coming in who had been RUNNING for 7 hours straight. The least they could have done was stick around to make them feel like the champions they are. Running a marathon is an enormous accomplishment no matter how long it takes you, and I was deeply bothered that those at the end (who probably needed it the most) received the least attention.
The food served at the end was good, with oranges, bananas, and a few other sponsered products. The only thing I didn't see was water, which was what I really wanted. They were handing out GookinAid, but that doesn't cut it when all you want it some cold water.
Overall, I am glad that I raced and am pleased with my time, but I would never do the OC Marathon again unless and until they change the course.
By: Keith L.
Posted: January 09, 2007
A well organized and pleasant marathon
I have participated in the last two marathons here. The race is very well organized from expo to finish, and I was very grateful to the volunteers who operated each water/aid site. Lots of nice folks who were quick to call out the water and other drinks, and hand out gel packs when required. That makes up for a slightly boring course through Irvine and Tustin. This year resulted in a course improvement with the elimination of a run around the abandoned El Toro Marine base and the substitution of some nice bike paths. Just don't expect any ocean or harbor views. Runners are led right out of Newport Beach before they can become the slightest nuisance to those residents. There is also a significant stretch along a cordoned-off freeway, which is dreary, but when you run the marathon I guess you cannot expect an aesthetic experience the whole way.
By: Kyle EricSon
Posted: January 09, 2007
Change The Course Please!
I have now run this marathon all three years and have to commend the organizers for continually trying to improve it. Unfortunately, I still think there is room for some much needed changes; specifically on the course itself. As another reviewer pointed out previously, if they keep the same course, it should more accurately be named "The Irvine Freeway, Wearhouse and Industrial Park Tour."
Having never been involved in planning or organizing a major marathon in Southern California, I can only imagine what a nightmare it must be trying to get road closures, permits, police presence, etc. However, I think this course is one of the least scenic of all the marathons in the area which is a real shame considering the fact that the Pacific Ocean is about two miles from the starting line.
First off, the "equestrian trail" between miles 8 - 10 is nothing more than a riverbed - nicer than most in Southern California, but still just a riverbed. Second, having to run on the 261 Freeway between miles 12-15 is hardly my idea of a desirable marathon route. Third, the gradual incline between miles 12-22 is a killer (about a 400' increase), and comes at a point in the race when most people are the least prepared for it. Fourth, the "scenery" between miles 19-22 consist of the now-closed El Toro Marine base on one side of the street, and vacant Marine housing on the left. The last four miles of the race then runs through an industrial and business park - once again, nicer than most, but an industrial/business park all the same. Lastly, please, please, please do away with the point-to-point nature of the course! After having just run 26 miles, I really don't look forward to a 13-mile school bus-ride back to my car with my knees tucked up underneath my chin (the legroom wasn't an issue when I was four feet tall and 10 years-old, but it is now!). Upon departing the bus, I could barely unfold my legs and walk.
Not to focus soley on the negative and the changes that I think need to be done to the course, all other aspects of this race are done quite well. Registration and packet pick-up went very smoothly, although I'm sure some people will complain about the size of the expo (held in a conference room of the Hyatt Regency Hotel) or the nature of their T-shirt (white, cotton, long-sleeved). neither of these are important to me, so I'll let others complain about this. All the volunteers I encountered at the expo and the race were very helpful and pleasant. There seemed to be plenty of water and Gookinaid out on the course, and the volunteers were very supportive. Lastly, the finish line also went very smoothly with plenty of water, orange slices, bananas, etc., and at least when I finished (3:32), there were even free Snickers bars (which tasted absolutely awesome!). The finisher's medal is very nice, and for having been one of the first 1,000 people to register, I was even given a nice OC Marathon windbreaker (a perk I wasn't expecting).
All in all, I think the OC Marathon has gotten better every year and I will continue to run it, but I really wish the organizers would change the course in line with my comments above - at the very least do away with the point-to-point aspect of it.
By: Tracy T.
Posted: January 09, 2007
What an experience!
I knew coming into the race that the course would be hilly because it's called the OC Marathon Challenge. It sure fit the name because the course was very TOUGH! Although I finished at the time I predicted, I had a rough time running uphill from mile 12 - 22. It was straight uphill and the elevation chart was not helpful. I sat in the logistics meeting at the expo and the director of the race was very short with the course. He knew it would be a challenge and made it like it was an easy course.
All in all, I felt alone on the course because there were only a few patches of spectators miles apart. The finish line was so boring coming in. I could hear a pin drop because there was no cheering or music at the end. I believe it's a nice event for the community, but to make it a start of an historical marathon, they need to make it more lively and entertaining.
By: Kim D.
Posted: January 08, 2007
Boring Course; Difficult 2nd Half
It was a hot and windy day, and the last 10 miles were not fun (going up an incline). I wonder why it doesn't run the opposite way. Not many spectators on the course, but the medical support on the bikes I thought were great. The course was very boring and it's not a place for PR's. If you live close to this race, it's ok, but I don't think I will be entering it again.
By: David K.
Posted: January 08, 2007
Not a World-Class Experience
The course selected for this race will preclude it from becoming a world-class marathon. Much of the course is on bike trails, freeway and on roads or highways without easy access for spectators. Two bands, no cheerleading squads and very limited spectator support. The course is mostly uphill from mile 12 to 22. A lot of it seemed to be into the wind. Volunteers/water stations were good and miles were clearly marked. I'll stick to the 1/2 marathon in the future.
By: Todd P.
Posted: January 08, 2007
Had a blast, but where were the donuts?!
This was my first half marathon (I have only run 5K's and 10K's prior). I had a blast, and training for it with Cal Coast was a great time.
All I could think about the whole time were some Krispy Kreme donuts waiting for me at the end, but sadly there were none to be found.
By: Giorgio Ramirez
Posted: January 08, 2007
I ran into a volunteer
It was really windy and I had trouble during the race when the whole and half runners split because there were hardly any people around running or spectating. Also, around the 22nd mile I ran into a volunteer who was playing around on the course, and I almost fell. By that time, obviously, it is hard to maneuver around such things. All in all, it was a hard day and an okay race.
By: Nancy M.
Posted: October 24, 2006
Awesome Race
I ran the half marathon and absolutely loved the gentle rolling hills and the spectators throughout the course. I would definitely go back!
By: Barry C.
Posted: August 28, 2006
Loved the weather. Hated the course.
Absolutely dreadful course. Splendid volunteers and high-quality post race organization.
I read the comments regarding the post-race problems from the previous year and entered with apprehension and reservation but was pleasantly pleased with the post-race organization. The course elevation chart on the website was a rotten lie. The race advertises that the race is in Newport Beach, yet I felt I toured Irvine. Did I miss the part of the course where runners experience views of Newport Bay and yachts that is shown on the race website?
By: Thomas M.
Posted: May 08, 2006
Poor Route
Much of the course was on freeway-grade. This is not the best way to see a community. To think, there are miles of bike trails along the ocean, and OC decides to run freeways. It must be the California culture.
By: Steve G.
Posted: April 15, 2006
a quality experience
The weather was beautiful and the course was surprisingly rural and lovely. Hills are very gradual and therefore not difficult. I had a great experience and my only complaint was that the organizers ran out of GU gel at the first of two places where it was advertised to be given out to runners.
By: Jimmy Freeman
Posted: March 10, 2006
The course will EAT your fast PR alive!!!
I came to this race this year as my fallback plan. I got really sick the weekend of the Tucson Marathon and elected to pull out of the race and save it for another day. Looking at the 2005 OC Marathon times, and talking to a few runners who ran well there, I elected to run the 2006 edition with hopes of finally cracking the 3-hour barrier! For starters, the ELEVATION MAP wasn't representative of the course. It was essentially measured at mile points and then a straight line was drawn between points. With today's MAP-POINT-SATELLITE technology, you think race directors would take advantage and offer ALL the ups-and-downs of their course. Miles 13 to 22 had nearly seven of the 10 miles a full mile of incline. The three miles that were supposedly flat had many UPS-and-DOWNS, and one mile had about 60 feet of drop and 60 feet of climbing, which to me seemed a pretty challenging mile (that looked FLAT on an elevation chart). THIS IS MY FAULT. I didn't do my homework on this race, and quite frankly, it was my fallback option.
All in all, I ran my best effort (but a solid six minutes OFF my PR), albeit 18 minutes off of my goal time. C'est la vie!
Next year, back to Cali Int'l....
By: J. A.
Posted: February 04, 2006
Much improved from 2004!
Great job to Coach, race organizers, crew and volunteers - this was one of the best races I've ever run!
The start area had plenty of parking and were organized well.
The course was definitely a little tougher than I anticipated - the steady uphill for so many miles made for a tough finish.
Support was prefect - plenty of water, Gookinaid, gels and the volunteers were awesome.
The finish line was a HUGE improvement over last year - thank you! The volunteers did their jobs quickly, and got runners into the food area efficiently. Parking was also tremendously improved.
Great job, all - I look forward to being out there next year!
By: Matt H.
Posted: January 29, 2006
Great deal of improvement. 2nd half is hilly.
This year, the parking was excellent and plentiful. I think it'd be great if they could get the race to finish and start at the same place. The last half of this course would be great for someone interested in leasing industrial space in the O.C.- i.e., except for the mountain and farm views, some of the hills got boring.
This race continues to have the best staff and volunteers. I did this race more than an hour slower than last year and was so glad to see there was still plenty of food and water left. And (unlike last year) there were shuttle buses waiting.
By: Tom S.
Posted: January 18, 2006
Great day but tough course
I ran the OC Marathon this year because I didn't want to make the trip to Phoenix and I thought that the Carlsbad race would be too hilly. (What a surprise when I went up-up-up from miles 12-22!)
The course was tough - the slow grade really crushed a number of my friends looking for PRs. It was also pretty lonely during the entire uphill stretch. I ran pretty well (3:54), but only because I really held back the first half, which had several downhills.
The race was very well organized. Start line, water stations, finish line, buses - all smooth and well done. I entered with trepidation after reading last year's comments, but the organizers really did a top-notch job.
I loved seeing Bill Rodgers and getting him to autograph my shirt at the expo.
By: gamma c.
Posted: January 15, 2006
did not improve from last year
The course this year was crazy. Some areas by the lake were too narrow for marathon and half marathon number of runners. The 261 part was deserted. Having along the side of Peters Canyon Trail instead, with possible spectators from the residential areas by the trail. Running by El Toro on Irvine Blvd. was another mistake. This is a beautiful city. Why choose areas that lack support for the runners? Even last year with the bad weather people gave us a lot more support. Sorry, this was my last.
By: Pete B.
Posted: January 13, 2006
Another good OC
It was another good OC for me. I PRed both times. This was my 11th, with 3 marathons in between the two OC's. I actually, liked last year's course better, because it was flatter and more scenic. I hope they change it again, and start and finish in the same place. If not, I hope they at least have us park at the finish, and bus us to the start; that would improve the race, big time.
It was nice to see a couple of bands playing, and once again they had some really good pace leaders (sub-4 hour).
I would try to do it every year, if the OC had more time between it and LA.
I hope to do it next year.
Pete
By: kent m.
Posted: January 10, 2006
A Big Huge Home Run
The OC has arrived. The organization was outstanding - I have never in 28 races walked through the finish area, gotten my chip removed, had the medal, had some food and been at the door of a bus in 15 minutes! The longest wait was waiting for the bus to load. The course is a challenge - but not over done.
The only downside is the students preparing to run the LA Marathon are learning how to run a race and that was a bit of a pain - but they are the future of our sport and we were all once in the same place.
By: Kathy K.
Posted: January 10, 2006
Great Job!!
I ran the OC Marathon last year and again this year. The weather was ideal: 60's. There was a lot of water and lots of volunteers on the course. The finish area was bigger and flowed very well. The course was a little more difficult but scenic. After the race I got my goodies, cheered other runners, and then got on a shuttle back to the start. There was no wait for the bus and it dropped me right near my car. Great job OC!! Look forward to next year.
By: Jeff Smith
Posted: January 10, 2006
Marked Improvement
I ran the half last year and remember, vividly, the fiasco at the finish. Well, from the expo to the finish line, this race did a complete 180.
The weather cooperated, and I'm sure that made a huge difference with the number of spectators that came out, as well as crew that manned the course.
The change in course made it somewhat challenging in that miles 10-22ish were on a constant uphill grade. That took its toll. The course deviation at mile 17 was unexpected and threw off racers as well as supporters.
The finish line, though, was great. Plenty of fluids and grub. And Mylar blankets.... All things that were lacking last year.
The course was great for cheering, too, since it was highly accessible even with road closures. I had 30+ people out cheering and crewing and they had no problems getting around.
I'm very happy with an 18-minute PR and BQ time, too!
Great job Bill, Jodi, etc. You guys put on a top-notch race.
One comment to the elite lady at the mile 12 water stop though: A remark like "you need to learn to hand out water" is totally inappropriate to make to a teenage volunteer that has come out to help YOU. Get some class.
By: Kyle EricSon
Posted: January 10, 2006
Much Better Than 2005
Just completed the 2006 OC Marathon and have to compliment the organizers for correcting everything that was wrong with the 2005 version.
First off, the expo was held outside in a large tent at the finish line (similar to the Pacific Shoreline Marathon) and was much better than 2005 when it was at an abandoned warehouse. Plus, if the weather would have turned bad, we would have had shelter from the elements (something that we didn't have in 2005 when it rained). Fortunately, it was a great day and the tent was not needed. Secondly, the course was also greatly improved and we spent very little time on the riverbed where the majority of the 2005 race was held. The course was mainly on city/residential streets with a little bit of parkland and freeway thrown in, and was much, much better than in 2005, in my opinion (although I'll offer some constructive criticism later). Lastly, the finisher's medal was very nice, the T-shirt (at least for the marathoners) was a quality, long-sleeved one (although can we change things up sometime and maybe do a color other than white?), and as always, the spectators and volunteers were greatly appreciated (for all the people who always complain about the spectators and volunteers, I wonder how many times they have volunteered to give up one of their Sundays to hand out water and GU to a bunch of ungrateful marathoners). Lastly, a special "thank you" to McDonald's for providing the disposable drinking cups!
Now for the constructive criticism promised earlier: Although, as I mentioned, I think the course was greatly improved over last year, I think it could still use a little work (and this just may brand me as a wuss, but what the heck!). From mile 10 to about mile 22 you are on a slow but steady incline, going from about sea level to about 400 feet. Granted that's not a dramatic increase, but since it's smack dab in the middle of the course, I think it really does some people in (and in case you're wondering, I finished in 3:50). Although I know you're limited by your surroundings/geography, something a little flatter would be appreciated. The other thing about the course that I think is less than ideal is finishing 13 miles away from where you started and having to ride a bus back to your car. I can only imagine how bad those buses must smell the day after the race, and many people had to be physically helped up the steps to simply get in and out of them. Once again, I realize that you're limited by the surroundings, but finishing where you started is always preferable in my book (Long Beach, Pacific Shoreline and Palos Verdes are some local races who manage to do it). Lastly, I think the motto of "Surf. Sand. Sweat." needs to be dropped, as it misleads out-of-towners into thinking that the race is run along the beach, when in reality it never even comes close.
My last criticism is not directed at the organizers of the race, but at my fellow competitors (and unfortunately, this seems to happen at every race). Can we please start policing ourselves and start in the appropriate place? As I said earlier, I finished in 3:50 and started around the 4:00 pace group. Unfortuantely, I spent the first several miles having to pass hundreds of runners going much slower than I was. Especially guilty seemed to be all the 'Run LA' kids who were apparently running the half-marathon as a precursor to LA in March. Although I think it's great that these kids are training for LA and are actually outside being active instead of sitting inside playing video games, by mile 2 or 3 most of them were already walking and forcing everybody else to run around them. Kids being kids, I don't fault them for this, but rather the adults who should have had them grouped together and at the back of the pack where they didn't interfere with other runners. And for the rest of the adults who force themselves up to the front at every race, you should know better. I know everybody gets excited at the start and has the best of intentions, but please be a bit more realistic about where you're going to finish and start appropriately (if all your other finishing times are in the 4:30 - 5:30 timeframe, I really doubt that all of a sudden you're going to do 2:30 - 3:00 and win any prize money).
In conclusion, I think the OC Marathon is definitely on the right track and one that I plan on adding to my yearly schedule along with Long Beach, Pacific Shoreline and Palos Verdes.
See ya' in 2007!
By: Alex Tamayo
Posted: January 09, 2006
100% over last year
I did not run it last year but MarathonGuide.Com users had plenty of negative comments about last year. This year none of the problems repeated themselves and the weather was great!!!!! Nice and cool (60) at the end. Line of shuttles waiting for me to pick one at the end. :-)
Great job OC!!!
By: Craig F.
Posted: January 09, 2006
Great organization, but change the course.
The race director did a brilliant job correcting the problems from the first annual O.C. Marathon. This year there were ample shuttle buses back to the start, sufficient aid stations with many volunteers, and well stocked "Gu" stations at three well placed points on the course. However, the course needs to be changed if this race is going to be a premier marathon. The course was advertised as "fast," and although the course is faster than most marathons, Miles 13 to Mile 22 were hilly, and were not conducive to fast times. Last year's course was much faster with no hills. Either go back to the course used in the first annual O.C. Marathon or eliminate the hills from 13 to 22. Otherwise, great event.
By: Evan K.
Posted: January 09, 2006
Still Needs Improvement
Well, this was my first marathon, and it was a rewarding experience overall and I met my sub-4 hour goal.
However, I think the course needs improvement. I am not opposed to hills, but I thought it was brutal to decide on making the course hilly right around "the wall" portion of the race. It's just not necessary. Also, I am quite surprised that Newport Beach does not take any advantage of running by the coast. Why are we ignoring the Pacific Ocean? It's the best part about living here.
Also, the course design made the spectator support almost non-existent. Most of the race was completely devoid of spectators, and I was actually disappointed to see how few people were around the finish line (I guess shopping at the Spectrum still takes precedence, even on marathon day).
And organization, why do we have to start and finish at 2 different places? It's not necessary and it creates all sorts of confusion. Directions and guidance were terrible. I know that it's probably one of those "shared venues" between two cities but the confusion will no doubt stop some people from running this race.
Overall, I think a lot of improvement is necessary to catapult this marathon to high-level status. I personally would run Long Beach or Pacific Shoreline any day over this one.
By: Jim P.
Posted: January 09, 2006
Great race and 65 degrees in January
I really enjoyed the second annual Orange County, CA Marathon. The weather started out around 55 and foggy and ended sunny and around 65 degrees. The course (I ran the half this time) was much improved, as it was a point-to-point. It was fun to run through the beautiful rolling hills and nice neighborhoods. Except for the final half-mile, it appeared that most of the course was downhill and/or flat. It was a young crowd, lots of pre-20's and 20-30's, compared to all the other races I've been in, but not complaining. The fans, as last year were nice, but pretty sparse, but the course was so fun, who even cared? The buses to the start, at least for me were great. I loaded up on fruit & energy bars, walked over to the buses, and got right on. Twenty minutes later I was back in Newport Beach, and started to stretch out at my car, and drink chocolate milk. And it was only 10:30 AM. Will do a victory lap next year, for sure.
By: Curt H.
Posted: January 07, 2006
Scenic and varied course!
Well organized!
By: mark gutcher
Posted: January 05, 2006
making lemonade
It was a learning experience. I think the organizers will do much better this time. They know what went wrong, and they will fix it. I look foward to a great '06. Great people. I will do this one every year.
By: Marla M.
Posted: November 19, 2005
PRed and qualified for Boston!
This was my second marathon.... Even though it was chilly at the start, there were perfect racing conditions. The course was pretty flat and the water stations were very well supplied. Everyone alongside the course was very supportive. I would run this race again.
By: Pam H.
Posted: October 19, 2005
A fast, scenic and refreshing race
The inaugural OCM was my third marathon and without a doubt my favorite so far. The cool weather was a definite benefit enabling me to set a new PR and qualify for Boston with a full 5 minutes to spare. Can't wait to run it again on 1/8/06!
By: Stephen B.
Posted: September 28, 2005
Poor organization at finish
This couse was primarily a downhill course and resulted in a good finishing time; however there were not enough buses at the finish to bus people back to the area where they parked their cars. I had to walk back to my car; it was cold and rainy and I got lost.
By: Mike R.
Posted: March 10, 2005
OC Marathon Motto for 2005 - Be Prepared!
I ran the inaugural OC Marathon and it just about met my expectations. I really enjoyed the course and the weather was a bit dreary, but I'd rather do cool/wet than hot/dry. Start and finish line organization needs to be drastically improved. I won't 'pile on' with similar comments already posted here. I just think that the success of a marathon is mostly dependent on how well you treat the 'rank and file' runners - and on course water/drinks and a great finish line experience are absolutely required. The OC Marathon completely missed this in 2004, but I'll try it again in 2005 and hope for a better effort.
By: Mike Burke
Posted: February 17, 2005
NO FOOD OR DRINK AT THE FINISH?
Well, well. No surf and no sand. No foof or drink at the finish line? Unbelievable. Great volunteers along the course in spite of the rain.
By: Pete B.
Posted: January 16, 2005
a good, fast course
I feel bad that very few runners enjoyed the OC Marathon as much as I did. It turned out to be my favorite marathon. I did not know the area, so I went there the day before to plan how I was going to get back. It was 1 1/2 miles from the finish line to were we parked, so I had planned to walk back. I took my plastic poncho with me because I thought it might rain (turned out to be a good thing).
I ran with their pace group of 4:00. They turned out to be one of the best group of runners I have met. There were not many fans out there, but the ones that were there were great. The people at the water stations were also great. It just seemed like everyone there was having a good time, so I enjoyed myself the whole 26.2 miles. I felt it was the easiest course I have run so far (I have ran San Diego RnR, San Francisco, Long Beach, and Los Angeles).
There was not much food there, but I was given oranges, bananas, and Fig Newtons in a couple of spots. Most of our group finished together and under 4 hours. The only thing that I saw go wrong was the late start and that I only heard one band. I guess it did not bother me too much because I cannot wait to do it again.
By: Don B.
Posted: January 05, 2005
A successful inaugural...will improve
As someone who ran this marathon as a pacer for one of the slower pace group times, and finisher of 34 marathons, I feel I can make some valid judgements regarding this race. The weather definitely had a lot to do with the shortcomings at the end of the race (i.e. lack of shuttles and absence of food or entertainment in the Back Bay) and some of the problems with wind-blown mile markers. Better planning could have been done for the finish line and start line parking, but let's remember that this whole marathon was planned from scratch to race day in just 10 months; and this was one of the largest inaugural California marathons in history.
Anyway, as for the course, it is a fast and secure course and the aid stations were great - plenty of water (but don't advertise Power Gel if it isn't there). My wife was one of ten course captains, and believe me, getting that many volunteers out there on such a lousy day was a chore.
As for next year, please go to the race's website to read the December 2004 newsletter, which addresses most of the justified complaints made below (especially the shuttles). Next year will definitely be better planned and executed, and I know the race management appreciates all of the volunteers who made the race possible, as well as all those who ran.
By: Chris Kelly
Posted: January 03, 2005
no food after race, very few snacks on course
The biggest shuttle disaster since 1986. No food for the runners or coffee, etc. after the race. Didn't the fee provide enough to buy some of this? Get little oranges, bananas on course... no gel at all.
By: Jenny J. C.
Posted: December 21, 2004
The most poorly organized marathon ever
Waited for this event for years to happen. Next time consult the expert for the event. Even though we can't help the rain's happening, they could have at least been prepared for it. There were no plastic ponchos for the runner, no hot coffee, no tents - geez, this is a no-brainer when we all knew it was going to happen. Carton mile markers on a rainy stormy weather? Somebody please tell what's wrong with these peoples' ideas!!
"Surf, sand and sweat." Please get rid of that motto and change it to the Irvine Marathon. I have run so many events, it is difficult to remember how many, but never have I run in such a horrible marathon. I would never recommend this event to any of my friends in the future. People get your A's together before doing anything like it again. I only thank all of the kids that stood by the rain and gave us water.
By: Laura V.
Posted: December 17, 2004
Disappointing Marathon
The hype was great! I got caught up in the OC fever. Newport Beach, Fashion Island, Newport Dunes, entertainment along the course, etc. Okay, it rained, it happens. This year's Boston marathon was met with unseasonable heat. The difference is preparation. It was no suprise to the runners that we were going to get wet. Why the organizers did not have forward thinking on this is a shame. As was mentioned in many of these posts, few signs and fewer bodies directing traffic.
The baggage area was a mess, (I was VERY concerned about whether I would even recover my things at the end of the race). The corrals, the shuttle buses, zero entertainment along the course, not to mention that it would have been difficult just to get spectators out on that course to watch and cheer. Power gels were non-existent. Unfortunately, this was very unorganized. It was a blessing that you did not get a huge turnout.
Kudos for all the water stops. Hats off to those kids turning into popsicles that manned the water stops.
Okay, one more thing. It would have been nice to see at least the year stamped on the finisher's medal. (Cheap to recycle, eh?)
Sorry, but this is not one that I would repeat or pass on to other marathoners to run.
By: Matt H.
Posted: December 16, 2004
Plenty of potential, great spirit
I am only leaving my comments b/c so many people are really railing on this race. For an inaugural, you have to expect the parking and the shuttle snafu to happen. What I think is so great about the OC Marathon is everyone I came in contact with was so positive. All of the other marathon runners, volunteers, and the (few) spectators out in the rain were crazy supportive and helpful. The course became kind of mundane in the end, but I am thankful that we didn't have to contend with any unhappy motorists. I feel that this race has a great deal of potential and am so glad to see another (soon-to-be?) major marathon in So-Cal.
I would do this race again. I'm certain with the experience from 2004 the race organizers will have learned a great deal.
By: Rex Coleman
Posted: December 15, 2004
Were my expectations too high?
Originally from "the OC", I was very excited for this race because I knew the course route well.
Luckily the traffic and parking were not a problem because I knew of alternate places near the race start to avoid traffic and park. But, for others, it looked like a nightmare.
Starting late didn't bother me too much, but it was a challenge keeping warm. Most of us bounced around or huddled close to someone near.
I would have liked to have a timer at every mile so I could keep track of my pace. Water stations were great. The finish line, however, was not. I looked around for something to eat, but was unable to find anything. Then, the downpour came and there was no shelter to keep dry/warm while we waited for our ride home. Then I saw the shuttle line. Wow.
I recommend free food at the finish, a tent or covered area to go after the race and better directions for out-of-towners so they would know how to find their cars.
By: Yekaterina K.
Posted: December 14, 2004
Cold and quiet
I ran the 1/2 marathon. The course was pretty cool. The spectators were not supportive and few and far between. The finish was disorganized, and the shuttle line was a nightmare. There were no gel stations and volunteers were better at spilling water than giving it to the runners. And to top that, the picture that they sent me was of some fat lady. I just hope they did not mess up time. Lots of room for improvement.
By: Sergio P.
Posted: December 14, 2004
Poor organization, need expert consultants
The course should include populated area to attract people to watch the event. Runners need to be cheered up by the spectators along the way. Poorly managed traffic coming to the venue. The distance from start to finish was too far, few buses available. The weather made it worst. No free fruits or Gatorade at the finish area except for one stall selling hamburger. Poor preparation for the expected bad weather. I am hoping that you will consider my comments for next year event. I will run it again to find out. Have a happy holiday season.
By: Rob K.
Posted: December 13, 2004
Promising, needs some improvement
Like almost everyone else, I enjoyed the running part of the race(I ran the 1/2 marathon), and thought the number of - and support at - the aid stations was great.
Similarly, what I didn't enjoy was getting to the start, and more importantly getting back to my car after the race.
After the race, I lined up behind about 50 people for a shuttle to Fashion Island. About 20 cold & wet minutes later, the approximately 100 people in line found out, after yelling to a bus driver, that the shuttle wasn't picking up there. I ended up walking/limping up the hill back to my car, shivering the whole way. Then I took an additional half hour to find my car.
I enjoyed the last few miles of the race on the back bay, but would trade that for a course that either ended where it started, or had ample parking at the finish so I could have had my family meet me there. The congested finish area, both for runners & parking, is simply not suited for a race of this size. I think that would be the case even without the problems brought on by having the kids' race run towards the finishers on a narrow path.
I look forward to the race organizers fixing these problems and having the race grow in future years.
By: James M.
Posted: December 13, 2004
Not worth the price of admission
First of all, I want to comment on their number of runners. They were claiming the next day that they had 10,000 runners there. You have got to be kidding me. Either someone failed math or they had double vision because they were lucky if they had 5,000 total.
Now to the disaster that was the race. Someone in an earlier post stated that Kathy Kinane was the director; she was not, it was Bill Sumner, who definitely has his work cut out for him if he wants to make this a race worth going to. From the beginning to the end, this was nothing more than one poorly planned event after another.
Let’s start with the parking situation. I don’t know who thought up the logistics for how to get to the parking, but I think waiting nearly two hours to drive two miles is a little much. Once I did get to the parking lot, there was no parking available, and I had to let my wife take over as I sprinted to the starting line.
Once the race started (by the way it was very late starting, which when it is cold is not fun) the course had many problems. There were barricades that were missing, so traffic on course was a constant problem, and the mile markers were way off. The course was not well marked and I even heard that the leaders took a wrong turn. Then to make matters worse, there were hardly any portable restrooms which created these long lines for the few ones that were out there.
There was no on course entertainment and for the most part the course was boring. The only bright spots were the fact that the course was relatively flat and the volunteers were cheerful.
Once you got to the finish line, it was a total mess. There was hardly anything to eat, the personal baggage check in was an absolute mess, everything was wet and muddy and there were no frills at the finish line area whatsoever. The lines for the shuttles to get back to the parking area was over an hour wait, always a fun time in the pouring rain after having run 26.2 miles.
It is amazing to me that they could charge $85 for this fiasco. It was high price to pay for a race that had the appearance of a weekend 5k at your local park. I suggest that the organizers of this race take a 30-minute drive up the freeway in October to look at the Long Beach Marathon to see how a really well run event is organized.
By: Bob Z.
Posted: December 11, 2004
Some organizational glitches, but overall good.
Since it was the inaugural event, I expected a few bugs, but overall it was a great experience. Judging from the turnout, I expect the event to grow in popularity, prestige, and organizational quality.
Pluses: Organized start! Pace groups, chip timing, etc. There were relatively few people blatantly starting out of their pace groups. Flat course. Great aid stations placed very frequently with both water and numerous flavors of Gatorade. Wonderful volunteers. The few spectators along the course made up for a lack of numbers with enthusiasm. Very nice one-of-a-kind finisher's medal.
Minuses: Wacky, wacky U-turns. I missed one and wasn't notified until I was past it, then nearly missed a second. The course is very confusing and wasn't very well-marked. The merging of the marathon and the half-marathon at mile 20+ was a big mess, as the front of the marathon pack runs into the back of the half-marathon pack. It was almost like an obstacle course, and some of us ended up running in the dirt just to get around people.
If the bike path had been split with instructions for half marathoners to stay to one side and marathoners to stay to the other, it would have been very helpful. The finish line was also very, very confusing. I couldn't tell which side I was supposed to finish on, as there weren't any signs pointing me to the right or the left.
It was nearly impossible (I really lucked out) to pick up your stuff at the finish, since bags were just dumped in enormous bins with thousands of other bags. No food at the finish? Also, the line for the shuttle back to the start looked like it would take hours to get through, so I ended up walking 2 miles or so back to the start, which is also a very confusing area. I ended up hitching a ride with some nice people back to the hotel, because I had no idea where the shuttle pickup was. The Fashion Island Mall is a very big, very confusing complex.
My suggestions (if the race organizers ever read this site):
1. Alter the course to make it less confusing, and mark it better. I think most people hate the U-turns as much as I do.
2. Either move the start/finish closer together, or improve the shuttle system.
3. Either start the races at different times, or organize the half/marathon merge so that runners won't have to dodge walkers.
4. The expo was good, but the location was very strange and not very close to anything else.
5. Some low-cost simple OCM shwag would have been nice. I would have liked to buy some cheap OCM running hats, socks, etc, but I didn't want to spend the money on an expensive shirt or jacket.
Overall, I really enjoyed the experience, and the organizational glitches were not unexpected for a first-time event. I imagine I'll be back.
By: Alan S.
Posted: December 09, 2004
Knucklehead Turns, Cruel Finish line
The traffic snarl to park was unnecessary: 4 lanes of traffic funneled to 1, moving at standard light-change intervals. Could have used police traffic control. No time to find porta-johns at the start (where were they?).
Course was okay: plenty of elbow room through the first miles. Open utility hole in road at 3 miles could have caused serious injury to someone preoccupied with a running conversation. Entertainment along the course was missing. Thought I heard a kazoo, but it was a runner wheezing.
'Cul-de-sac' type loops were a little annoying, but become an issue later. Mile markers were erratic. Support at every mile was great. Return on the bike path was good. Insecticide-spraying under the bridge was puzzling. You sucked in the fumes even if you didn't get sprayed.
Finish line was a disaster:
- They had kids' races running into the finishing half-marathoners.
- The Mylar blankets were gone. At least they gave us garbage bags.
- Plenty of water around but no food.
- Return to parking by shuttle was poorly planned. I had to choose to walk 2 miles back to the car (volunteer sent us back the long way up the hill) to avoid getting hyperthermia by standing for an hour in the rain for the bus.
Shuttles would not be needed if a few of those mid-course out-and-backs were omitted so the finish would be closer to the start.
...And my medal's ribbon broke!
Lots of things need to be fixed before this race is considered a premier event.
By: Donn O.
Posted: December 08, 2004
Overall, a good race
Despite the handful of organizational glitches (expected for a first-time event), I enjoyed running in the OC. The course was reasonably flat with no major hills. I liked the view of the bay the last few miles. The rain didn't bother me. It was much nicer than running in the heat at the LA Marathon earlier this year. The number of fans was small, but I give a lot of credit to the ones who showed up to cheer us on in the rain.
By: Rick S.
Posted: December 08, 2004
Polish will make it perfect!
I completed the half-marathon. The good points were: the medal was colorful and unique. the half course was fast and seemed nearly all level or downhill. The workers were all friendly and very helpful. The area was great for a vacation for an out-of-stater like myself. And for a first-time event I believe the money they raised for kids was terrific!
I hope the organizers read my other points. Coming from out of state, your expo was hard to find, and the chamber people were helpful considering they really didn't know much about the event. Parking at the expo was very limited. I had to wait for someone to leave. I didn't see any sweats or shirts to buy with the OC event logo except for the New Balance booth with a very limited and costly selection of blah items. Many were grumbling when told the race would be late due to a couple thousand runners tied up with parking problems. But turns out they never showed anyway. It was too cold and windy and your brochure said come early.
Also maybe this event should be moved ahead a few weeks. Sharing a lot with thousands of Christmas shoppers made the mess at the end. But having more than a few buses to move a few thousand runners in between several thousand shoppers and spectators would help. I realize weather can't be helped. And I realize first events are hard. I would do this one again and recommend it to anyone once it's polished up.
By: John A.
Posted: December 08, 2004
Overall not too shabby
I actually liked the course. Mostly flat and I didn't mind running on the bike path for most of the time. Finishing the last 3 miles on Backbay Dr. was cool. Didn't like the numerous 180 degree hairpin turns. Degrade for that.
I can't blame the fans for not showing up as it was cold and raining. Plus, the inaugural ones will always lack fans. 3 stars for potential. Would be a 5 if the girls from 'The OC' were there...sorry, wishful thinking.
The organization was inexcusable, even if it was the 1st. The forecast was known for a full week that is was going to be cold and raining. The finish was utter chaos because not enough buses were deployed! People were freezing in the cold, windy, rain waiting for the shuttles! I was lucky that my sis picked me up at the finish. The start area was way too crowded to do a 1/2 and full M at the same time. The traffic getting into Fashion Island was horrendous also.
Hopefully these are problems they will remedy for next year.
By: Jon J.
Posted: December 07, 2004
Wet, Cold, Glad I Did It
It was my first marathon so my comments aren't as well traveled as others. Being inaugural, there were the usual glitches for being the first-time out, but I'd like to thank all the volunteers for being there, especially in the cold and rain. You guys rock! I pre-ran most of this course on a sunny day and I liked it. Makes it a shame the pretty section, the back-bay, is the last third of the course when you have the least amount of energy to notice it. Fortunately, I stayed at the Hyatt, which was next to the finish line. Good call to stay an extra day.
By: Northern California Runner
Posted: December 07, 2004
horrible marathon overall
First off, the volunteers were very friendly and tried to be helpful... if anything, there were too many volunteers. Otherwise, this race was horrible.
* Pitiful communication from the race directors. An e-mail I sent to them 6 days before the race was never responded to.
* Expo was held in an industrial park, in a vacant trucking warehouse. The small parking lot had speed bumps so high that you needed an SUV or pickup to navigate them. Those of us in cars (me included) ended up getting the undercarriages of our cars banged and scraped on the speedbumps.
* Getting to the marathon was a DISASTER. I followed the race directions, and the three-lane road getting to the parking area was coned down to ONE LANE. Traffic was backed up for miles. I'm certain many runners were not able to make the start. Porta-potty lines were still 6 to 7 deep with bibbed runners 15 to 20 minutes after the start.
* Race organization didn't attempt to enforce lining up by pace at the start.
* Very boring course. Spectators along the route mostly consisted of volunteers.
* Finish line was another DISASTER. The weather was cold with wind and rain, and there was no sheltered area at the finish to towel off and put on some dry clothes. Runners were forced to walk a long way to get out of the fenced off finish area.
I could say much more of the same. Forget this race.
By: Glenn D.
Posted: December 07, 2004
Nice course, but hypothermia in SoCal?
I was quite looking forward to this event as I was familiar with the area as a student at UC Irvine 15 years ago. The course was fairly enjoyable, and the last few miles on the Back Bay trail was a very nice touch. Unfortunately people in Southern California are not used to bad weather, and the rain probably kept most of the bands, cheerleaders and spectators away (bands, what bands?). On the other hand, the volunteers were all very enthusiastic and supportive throughout, and fluids were plentiful throughout the course. As for porta-potties, it seemed that there was exactly ONE of those per mile except at the start and finish. With the rainy weather, I wouldn't be surprised if not a few participants took a leak in their shorts, since no one else would have known it.
I'd have to agree with the earlier comments about the finish line area problems, especially the lack of adequate shuttle bus transportation back to the parking lots. Many of us ended up walking back in the rain, and not a few of us seemed to have gotten lost on the way. It felt somewhat odd walking around in wet shorts and standard-issue plastic bags mingling with holiday shoppers at Fashion Island. There was, however, one silver lining to all this - since I spent all that time walking around in the rain, my legs were pretty well-iced by the time I got to my car, and I felt much less soreness than usual the next day.
By: Jen A.
Posted: December 07, 2004
Good first try
I thought for a first marathon, not bad. I liked the course, despite the missing/incorrect mile markers. The finish area seemed kind of vanilla to me. I didn't stick around because I was freezing, but I think better preparation for potentially bad weather is a must. The course support was ok - they needed more volunteers at the earlier aid stations though. But, they had a LOT of aid stations which was great. Parking at both the expo and the race was challenging. Spectators were slim, but I'm sure the weather played into that. I'll definitely do this one again - all in all it was a good experience!
By: Cesar G.
Posted: December 07, 2004
Poorly organized and bad luck with cold rain
Conditions were less than desirable. The expo shuttles were few and not on time. Very limited parking at the expo and no option to have the chip and number mailed to the runners. The race started late; the extra few minutes would have meant less rain on the way. Not enough johns at the beginning or during the race. The 10K mat didn’t work for several runners. The first gel was not provided until the 17th mile. The last few miles of the course had several horrible steep dips in and out of river tributaries. And to top it off, the last four miles were littered with walkers from either the 5k or the half marathon who had no concept of getting out of the way of runners struggling on the last 4 miles.
It was idiotic to combine the races at the finish line. The finish line support was adequate considering they had been rained on for hours. I hope they had enough first aid for the near-hypothermic runners. The firemen were very kind to me in helping me in the first aid tent.
By: Steve D.
Posted: December 07, 2004
Inaugural OC Marathon
Race day weather was cold and raining. However, I have run marathons in much worse. I heard other people complaining about headwinds but I did not have any trouble.
The course itself was great as a runner but lousy for spectators. Some up and down grades the first half but no real hills. From mile ten on we were off road on paved bike trails that are inaccessible to vehicles/spectators. Occasionally a group of people would be hiding out of the rain under an overpass and cheered as we ran under the overpass but other than that, spectators were few and far between.
The organizers need to work on the parking for the expo and the race. The shuttles back to the to the starting line needs lots of work. Runners had to wait up to a hour for a bus back. For a first-time marathon, logistics went well. But this was not the well-oiled machine of Boston, Chicago or New York.
By: Irene A.
Posted: December 07, 2004
Enjoyed the run, but the finish killed me!
I enjoyed the course and didn't mind the rain at all -- until the end. I thought the water tables, aid stations and food along the course were great. Perhaps a little more training with the volunteers would have helped. I can appreciate all that goes into planning an event like this but there had to be some way to make the lack of organization at the finish a little less painful. After 45 minutes searching for my bag (among poor other bags that were torn apart and strewn everywhere), I waited 1.5 hrs for a shuttle. There were only two shuttles running while a parking lot of some 20+ buses went unused not far from the start line. Folks at the finish line stopped handing out the space blankets (not sure why) but later continued passing them out to spectators (not runners).
Just thought that an experienced group like Kinane would have had a better handle on the event including some last minute changes that could have helped out the runners considering rain was predicted 7-10 in advance. I enjoyed the CalCoast enthusiasm among the coordinators, volunteers, and pacers. Some runners seemed more uptight than I'm used to seeing, but maybe the rain brought them down. I look forward to this becoming a regular and popular event that can be improved upon with the right touches.
By: Heath C.
Posted: December 06, 2004
Good Effort
Great first marathon, even with the the rain, wind and cold. This will be a very fast course with moderate weather. The finish and shuttles were disorganized and that can be expected for an inaugural marathon. Great crowd support in very harsh conditions. Plentiful water and Gatorade. Looking forward to future O.C. Marathons.
By: Nancy L.
Posted: December 06, 2004
DISORGANIZED!!!
I understand that this was the inaugural year of the OC Marathon, but c'mon - they shouldn't have LIED about details they advertised! There was NO Gu available at any of the aid stations, only some banana and orange segments. The finish line was awful and people were required to PAY for the food at the end. The shuttle going to and from the finish line was completely disorganized. I ended up walking an extra mile in the rain just to get to my car because I couldn't stand around for an hour to wait for the shuttle. I finished, but not happily.
By: karen c.
Posted: December 06, 2004
It can only get better
The inaugural OC Marathon, half marathon, and multiple kids races were an ambitious undertaking. Unfortunately the weather didn't cooperate. The course is runner-friendly, but could have used more volunteers. At one point I lost at least a minute waiting in line for an overworked volunteer to dip cups one at a time into the Gatorade vat. The spectators were almost non-existent.
The mile markers were way off, which made it difficult to know what pace you were on. I also didn't see a marker at miles 1 or 3, but I could have just overlooked them in the crowd. The start being delayed would not have been too big a deal if it hadn't been for the cold wind and threat of rain which made most of us huddle near total strangers for warmth.
Since both the half and full marathons travel the same route for the first miles, I saw no reason to divide us at the start, but more important was the lack of running room. Why weren't both sides of the road open from the start? The gear check and pick up were an absolute mess. Plastic grocery bags just don't cut it. At the finish people were crawling all over each other and dumping bags on the ground to get at their own bags.
And what is this trend toward giving both half and full marathoners the same shirt and medal?. When you run twice as far you shouldn't receive the same reward as those who only ran half the distance. The OC tried to differentiate by giving different colored ribbons, but the medal itself was the same.
Overall, the race wasn't too bad for the first try. I'm sure the weather will be better in the future (it never rains in southern California, you know) and the problems I've mentioned would be easy to fix.
By: Enrique A.
Posted: December 06, 2004
Wet...
Living in Orange County, I really wanted this marathon to go off well especially since it was the inaugural 'OC' Marathon.
Having run in the inaugural PF Chang Rock & Roll marathon in AZ earlier this year, I was expecting some logistical nightmares. Throw in the rain well...
Breakdown --
Pre-race parking -- Free for all.
Starting line -- Well done and luckily no rain.
Race -- Very well organized. Water stations at least every mile with Gatorade and shots when you needed them. Course was a fairly flat and fast point-to-point. Not as scenic as it could have been. Pace groups from Cal Coast were awesome! Rain began about 1 hour in. Obviously, there were few spectators except family and friends.
Finish -- Disaster. Point-to-point required the use of a shuttle system. Although it was only 1.5 miles to the starting line (but then, who feels like walking after the marathon?). Waited an hour + in the rain, wind and cold. Post-race activities were non-existent.
Overall, I enjoyed the race up to the point I crossed the finish line.
By: Jeri S.
Posted: December 06, 2004
Mile markers
I enjoyed the course more than I thought I would, but it would be great if all of the short switchbacks could be eliminated. Many of the mile markers were off, or not present at all. For those of us who take splits at each mile, it's important to have reliable mile markers.
By: Jonathan H.
Posted: December 06, 2004
OK course, great volunteers, lousy finish
Was a pretty tough day 45-50's, steady rain. The course was suburban SoCal... not bad along the river (6 or so miles). Thought the half marathon was the best of the course. Middle half less interesting. Plenty of volunteers... great. Aid stations every mile (none of the promised gels). Finish line was confused. Oranges and bananas... period. Nothing (medallions, shirts, etc.) was dated, which I understand from a nervous RD about turnout, but for $85.00, would have been appreciated. Got a BS parking ticket (along with a number of people) for $55.00 when my wife picked me up in the pouring rain. On a scale of one to ten, I'd rate
at 5-6 for a first-year effort.
By: Jennifer J.
Posted: December 06, 2004
Great Race! Poor Finish!
I didn't mind the late start, the cold rainy weather, or even that the mile markers were off. However, once I crossed the finish line the race soured for me. There was no organization in the baggage claim area and I had to sort through dozens of bins before I found my stuff. Many peoples belongings had fallen out and were spilled everywhere. After that we had to wait over an hour for a shuttle to bring us back to the parking area. Furthermore, the shuttle didn't even stop near where we parked so we had to walk some more. Overall I thought this was a poorly organized finish. I would not do this race again.
By: Carrie G.
Posted: December 06, 2004
nice course, a few fixable issues
Overall, an enjoyable marathon.
I was pleasantly surprised at how scenic the course was. I guess I was expecting it to be more industrial. The mile markers were a bit off, and I would have liked to see the clocks at the markers as well. The volunteers were wonderful, with plenty of water and Gatorade (one flavor next time, please). Later in the marathon, there were bananas and oranges which really saved me in the end.
Everything was going well until the end. At mile 25 there was a kid's race on the same narrow paved trail as the runners. I love that there was a kids race, however, I don't think it should have been in the same area as mile 25. There just wasn't enough space for everyone.
The real organizational issues were after the finish line. There were not enough buses to take people back to their cars, and hundreds of people had to stand in line in the windy, rainy, and chilly weather. My husband and I walked to our car, and never saw a bus pass us. There was really no reason to stick around afterwards (partially because of the crappy weather).
Overall, I think this marathon has awesome potential.
By: Jay F.
Posted: December 06, 2004
Proper Prior Planning
First of all, the traffic on McArthur heading to the parking lots was ridiculous. We arrived from Agoura Hills by 6:30 (1 hour before the start time) and it took us 55 minutes to travel 2 miles. No traffic control whatsoever! People were bailing out of their cars to make sure they would be on time for the 7:30 start.
Once we made it to the lots, there was no traffic control (or lots to park in!). Not good. We managed to make it to the start line just as the race began. No time to for a porta-potty break.
The run itself was fine. However, I was under the impression that being in the 'OC' we'd be going through some cool areas. As it turned out, you basically run along a bike path next to a waterway/runoff.
Rain had been forecast for race day almost a week before the event. You would think that the race staff might have the good sense to provide some sort of tented area at the finish line for water-logged, frozen runners. No again.
All I received was a bottle of water and no clue on how to get back to my car at the start line. After asking 3 people, they finally told me the start line was 1-2 miles from the finish, If I want to stand out for an hour in the freezing rain, I could grab a shuttle. The shuttle lines resembled the line to 'Splash Mountain' at Disneyland. Too long and way too cold and wet. I decided to hike back to the car. I truly believed that I'd be hypothermic by the time I found my car. (Thanks to the Marriott staff for providing warmth and a dry towel on my quest back to the car!)
I'm not blaming the race directors for the weather, but they had plenty of time to make proper accommodations for the runners. That was inexcusable.
Maybe they'll be ready next time...
By: Peter S.
Posted: December 06, 2004
OC Marathon off to a good start!
I really enjoyed the inaugural OC Marathon and will be looking forward to participate again next year. For lessons learned, I would suggest a review of the traffic and transportation logistics. Otherwise, CONGRATULATIONS to a very successful inauguration marathon!
By: Jay E.
Posted: December 06, 2004
Never again
Where do I start...? The flyer directions to race-day parking were not followed and caused major traffic jams and a 45-minute wait in traffic to even get close to the assigned parking lots, and they were closed. Starting the half and full marathons together on a road too narrow for either caused runner jams through 5 miles. Given a garbage bag and a water bottle at the finish, no one able to tell me how to get to food, and then walking two miles in the rain to find my car. I've only run 18 marathons, but this was the worst organization of them all.
By: Guest W.
Posted: December 06, 2004
lots of potential but some hiccups in first year
There were some logistical problems that could have been avoided with better planning for this first year of this event - not enough bathrooms at the start, extremely long of lines and wait to take the shuttle back to the start, the gear check tent was completely disorganized at the finish where bags were not sorted in any manner, and parking at the start could have been better organized.
Their course cannot handle many more runners since a lot of it is on a narrow bike path, especially at the finish where I heard faster marathon runners had to weave through half-marathon walkers. None of my friends were able to get to the finish line to meet me there due to traffic and lack of parking at the finish.
The cold, wet weather conditions didn't help matters, especially waiting for the shuttles back to the start where my car was parked.
Yet, despite it all, the event has to be considered a success. I had a good time running and would do it again, but I would like to be reassured that the race addresses some of the problems and has a plan to fix them before they try to expand and try to get as large as the LA Marathon.
The course was very scenic and fast and there were a lot of people cheering at every major intersection despite the weather conditions. There was water and Gatorade just about every mile and tons of helpful volunteers handing out water and making sure no one could get off course.
This event has a lot of potential. I hope next year it lives up to the potential.
By: Aliza Correa
Posted: December 06, 2004
A wonderfully challenging and memorable experience
This was my very first full marathon. The temperature was not bad but the rain made the race itself so much more challenging. It was nice to have a choice of Gatorade or water at just about every mile marker. I had hoped that there would have been a photographer at the finish. I'm a sucker for memorabelia. Most important is that there need to be more shuttles for next year. These poor people that had just run 26.2 miles were waiting in line for 30 min. to an hour for a shuttle. Luckily I had my loved ones pick me up at the finish line.
By: Kyle EricSon
Posted: December 06, 2004
Needs Improvement
Just ran the inaugural event, and would have to give it a grade of about a C+. To start with (and these are things I typically don't care about, but I know others do so I'll get them out of the way first), the expo was tiny, insignificant and was held in an empty warehouse. The 'goodie bag' consisted of a bunch of stuff that other organizations obviously didn't want (i.e., the 'Anaheim Angels 2002 American League Champions' backpack). As far as spectator support and on-course entertainment, the crowd was sparse at best and I only saw 1 band playing on the entire course (the poor weather probably had a lot to do with this, which I'll discuss later).
Now on to things that I do care about, and that's the course itself. This was without a doubt the most boring course I've ever run! How can you have a marathon in Newport Beach and never even come close to seeing the water or the beach? This is especially annoying in light of the race motto of 'surf, sand, sweat' (nope, on all 3 counts!). The majority of this course (perhaps 12-15 miles or so) is run on the 'bike trail', which is a euphemism for 'river bed'. Granted, it's one of the nicer river beds in SoCal, but it's still a river bed (which I never want to see again in my lifetime). Of course, the course was billed as 'flat, fast & fun' like all marathons, but with so much time spent on the river bed, you were constantly going up and down as the riverbed intersected cross streets and you had to run under them. The course also ended about 2 miles away from where it started, which made most people endure standing in long lines to ride a bus back to our cars (just what you wanted after you've just run 26 miles!). There also seemed to be next to nothing to eat or drink for the finishers, although there did appear to be a concession stand sellig items (unfortunately, I'm not used to carrying my wallet with me when I run).
The last negative I'll discuss is the timing of the event. In my opinion, scheduling events in December in SoCal is always going to be risky since December to February is typically our rainy season. This proved to be true this year as it rained all day, was about 55 degrees, with a constant wind of about 10 mph (I've never been so cold & miserable in my life). This event also comes in between other events that I think a lot of people also plan on running (Long Beach in October, Carlsbad in January, Huntington Beach in February, etc). I know I'm in the minority on this point, but I'd much rather have this event moved to the summer months when you don't have conflicting events and you know the weather is going to be nicer. I know people that worry about it being too hot, but it seems to me that if the starting time is pushed back to about 7:00 am, this avoids this problem and ensures that the majority of people will finish before heat becomes an issue (plus, I figure it's easier to cool-off on a hot day than it is to warm-up on a cold day).
All in all, I think this event has a lot of room for improvement, chief of which to me is the course itself, and until they remedy this issue, I'll skip this race entirely.
By: hannah u.
Posted: December 05, 2004
Ah, the OC
The course was nice and flat but not very exciting. Well organized during the race, but once you finish the experience is horrible! Bag-check reclaim ended up a jumbled/wet mess. The line for the shuttle to get back to the start line took an hour! So the race is great, but there's no fun beyond the finish line.
By: Dave Just Dave
Posted: December 05, 2004
Needs Some Work.
Generally I think there's too much bashing, but the finish today was a mess, and if they get through without anyone getting hypothermia they will have dodged a bullet. The registration situation wasn't ideal, but workable; I didn't care that much that the start was delayed; some people might gripe about the insufficient port-a-potties; the mile markers were off - no big deal to me... but geez, guys, if you are going to fix one thing before next year, fix the finish.
By: Melanie G.
Posted: August 16, 2004
Great time for One
I had a great time running this marathon, it didnt bother me too much that no one else showed up. The only thing I suggest for next time is perhaps blocking the traffic along the route, I almost got hit TWICE!!