By: Experiences R.
Posted: October 11, 2017
Poor course marking and needs more aid stations
I have wanted to run this race for several years now and it finally fit my schedule for 2017. I was excited for the event and wanted to love it, but was very disappointed with the organization. I don't take writing a bad review lightly, but feel like the runners should be warned.
On course markings were severely lacking. There were 3 places I actually had to stop and try to figure out the course due to a lack of arrows or conflicting arrows. Two places following the arrows led me the wrong way since arrow placement was bad.
Aid stations were sporadic. Some were as far as 4 miles apart (13-17) and several were spaced 3 miles apart, and others 1 mile between. There was access elsewhere, so that wasn't the reason. Many stations has several volunteers all just standing there, but runners still had to grab water from the table instead of being handed the cup.
Reading past reviews it looks like poor course marking and lack of aid stations has been a consistent comment, yet they choose to ignore it and not make the race better. It felt like they were doing the bare minimum to put on the race. They were more excited about post race beer than the actual run experience.
On the plus side, logistics were easy and Boise is a nice, clean, friendly town.
By: Evelyn W.
Posted: October 11, 2016
A Hidden gem!
After reading the previous comments and knowing nothing about Boise, I went into this race with slightly negative expectations. Boise isnt really known for any historical significance, at least not to us southerners. I expected this to be a weekend where I wouldnt be glad to check off the state and get home. I was already a little frustrated because Packet Pickup ended at 3 or 4 pm (the website & emails were different.) My flight landed at 2:30. But the minute I landed at the airport, my attitude changed.
-Host hotel (Spring Hill Suites) has free 24hr shuttle so I didn't need to rent a car (YEAH!) The hotel employees were super nice and accommodating. Our room was much larger than I expected for the price. The hotel was a block from the start/finish and walking distance to several restaurants. Plus if you wanted to go farther, the hotel shuttle would take you! (We went to Trader Joes)
-I was a pacer for this race so I got one of the local pacers to get my bib & shirt. We did make it to PP (it ended at 4). Quick and easy-no frills. The local running store was there with last minute supplies if needed.
-Race morning was easy. A 5 minute walk to the start area. Very low key. Volunteers were super friendly!
-The course was 2 out/backs (one NE, one SW). The greenbelt is a great place to run! If I were a local, this likely would be where I would regularly run/bike, so racing there year after year would get old. But for those of us coming to check off the state, it was great! I wouldve enjoyed some downtown scenery, but I wasnt disappointed. The path followed the river and passed several nice city parks (I was amazed at all the green space and bike lanes!!), behind the zoo (we saw the giraffes!) and through Boise State University. While the mile markers seemed a bit off, they were clear and easy to spot from a distance. The course was well-marked. I got a little confused at one turn through a small traffic circle-a few more arrows/people there would have been good). I ran with a local Maniac for about 14 miles who played tour guide for me. I also ran with several other locals who were super nice and were more than willing to answer my tourist questions. I never heard a negative comment about Boise! I was totally sold! After finishing, the park was easy to navigatea food tent and lots of space to sit and relax. The running store was holding a raffle. I ran up last minute and got a ticket and ended up winning a pair of trail shoes!
Having little to no knowledge about the city and expecting nothing but farm and industry (you know Idaho potatoes), I was pleasantly surprised with the city and the race.
A definite option for 50 staters to consider!
By: Matthew M.
Posted: November 14, 2015
Good race, could be great
A fun local race in a beautiful town. Still, could use some minor changes.
First of all, the race website advertised an expo with vendors. There was nothing except packet pickup. I was really hoping to be able to pick up some gels but was able to visit a local running shop. Not a big deal, but would have been nice to know in advance.
Second, there were no gels on the course as advertised. At the stop where they were supposed to be provided, it looked like two volunteers had found love. They poured out some drinks, set them on a table, and were both sitting on the ground and flirting, oblivious to the race. Good for them, but would have been good if volunteers were actually volunteering.
Finally, and the major complaint, the course was not always marked well. I made two wrong turns and ran approximately 3 extra miles. I do take partial responsibility for this myself.
Still, I don't want to be too critical. It was a beautiful course in a beautiful city. I would definitely choose this race again. With a few minor adjustments, it could go from a good race to a great race!
By: Roy M.
Posted: October 13, 2014
Boise is a great place!
Positives: Wonderful course, basically flat, friendly folks, well-organized, small field of runners for such an awesome event, chocolate milk at finish (excellent chili too!), liked the start time - right at dawn (8:00am MST) for the marathon & one hour later (9:00am) for the half, loved running on the Greenbelt and along the ridge on Federal Way! This race covers all the bases and, as mentioned earlier, is extremely well-organized. Kudos to the race director!!!
Negatives: only negative is in the swag category. I was really looking forward to the quarter-zip fleece pullover that was advertised, but was so disappointed to get just another long sleeve tech shirt instead (apparently due to defects with some of the fleece zippers). I would have repaired the zipper myself rather than another tech shirt. The race medal was a bit weak. Charge $3-$4 more on the entry and get a nice, eye-catching medal. Check out and compare to the medals they give out at the Tupelo, MS marathon or Huntington Beach, CA marathon and you will see what I mean....
All said, I would recommend this marathon and give it an 8 out of 10. Improve the swag and it will be a Bo Derek 10!!
By: Bill B.
Posted: October 15, 2013
Substance Over Style
A low-cost, few frills race that delivered a pretty and varied course, a nice sweatshirt and solid medal. An excellent post race atmosphere as well with chili and beer, and music. Throw in a perfect weather day, beautiful scenery and very friendly fellow runners and it is a great small marathon.
My only compliant is that there could be one or two more aid stations, but you get a full cup of water or Gatorade at each station. Bring your own food if you like to eat on course.
Overall, a great way to get Idaho.
By: John B.
Posted: October 15, 2013
Nice small scale event
This was a nice, well organized somewhat local race in one of the most beautiful parts of the country. Weather conditions happened to be ideal, making for a spectacular day.
Only negative was that a substantial portion of the race was on two lane roads with back to oncoming traffic. Personally feel slightly uncomfortable in that kind of situation.
Nevertheless kudos to the organizers - this marathon was loads of fun!
By: Ann S.
Posted: October 14, 2013
Looking for a small fall race? This is the one!
I live in Boise and have done the COT half many times, but this was my first attempt at the full. I really enjoyed it! The finish/start has ample parking for locals, and the race hotel is just across the street. The 8 am start time was later than many races - another bonus. The course takes folks all over southeast, North and central Boise. There are a few miles south of State Street to Americana which where a bit of a drag (traffic, lack of scenery) but this is bound to happen over the course of nearly any 26.2 mile race. Course was well-marked. RD does a terrific job.
By: Trish W.
Posted: November 03, 2012
Nice course, not a lot of support
I was excited to run a race where I could walk to the start line (I live in SE Boise). The course was nice, Federal Way has a great veiw of the foothills. I was not impressed with the support, however. There were few water stops and no food at all. I have run other races and they at least provide orange slices or bananas at the 5 and 10 mile markers. I didn't bring gels, so bonked about an hour and a half in. My fault I guess, but they did advertise providing gels. Overall, though, a fun race and one I will do again (with gels in my pocket). There was hardly any support from the city as far as spectators, which I thought was sad. Where were you fellow Boiseans?
By: JJ L.
Posted: October 21, 2012
would have been great on a cooler day
Unseasonably warm but obviously that isn't the race's fault.
The host hotel was convenient to the start/finish, relatively inexpensive (yet nice) and close enough to the airport to allow for a 'no rental car' trip. There were a few restaurants near the hotel but they also offered a downtown shuttle.
Not much of an 'expo'; it was little more than a packet pickup with shirts from prior years for sale, but for the size of the race you couldn't expect more.
The course was scenic and wasn't as hilly as the (terrible) map seemed to indicate; no split times but there was a mat at the start. There were a fair number of water stations but no entertainment and little crowd support. I thought the course was well marked with chalk and cones but apparently some people still went off course. Even on-course, the race was long; I clocked 26.6 and could not have been that bad on the taper.
The 'shirt' was a pullover rain jacket; the medal was nice. The post race included chili, and beer.
There are apparently a lot of choices for Idaho but this was a good one.
By: Jason R.
Posted: October 15, 2012
Markings
First 30 mile Marathon. Course needed a human at one turn that fouled up 8 of us. BQ was in sight until the extra 24ish minutes.
By: John L.
Posted: October 14, 2011
Beautiful but needs a couple of easy fixes
Thanks to the organizers and the wonderful volunteers. They were a great help for some of us slower runners. It was a beautiful lap around Boise with great weather. My suggestions should be easy to fix: 1.- The map was marginal and could be made better by a savvy person with google maps. Also the hand written instruction could be replaced with printed instructions as they were hard to read. 2.-There needs to be some improvements in marking. Colored chalk would help and also having a volunteer at critical corners would help. I was one of the people that went on a 1 mile diverson at Ann Morrison park. Apparently (reports from park employees)some people moved the corner marker as a prank and that is why a number of us had an extension to our run. This was a tough blow at mile 21.5 for a tired Marathoner. 3. Additionally the entrance to Ann Morrison Park is a high traffic area and would benefit from a road guard. My final comment is that to caution anyone running 11:00 miles and slower that you may be running alone for a large portion of this marathon. It would pay to have pacers or a buddy in this course to help you out. Over all this was a great return to marathon running after 16 years and I appreciated the volunteer, cheer leaders, and positive community support.
By: Michael McDonald
Posted: October 14, 2011
A small wonderful marathon
This was my first ever marathon and I'm glad I ran it in beautiful Boise, Idaho. Not only did I visit my 2 sisters there, my son and daughter drove up from Reno, Nevada to visit and provide support to their old man.
Wonderful weather, good organization, and a supportive populous made my first marathon a success. I can't believe some of the runners had 'problems' following the course; I'm 63 years old, from Texas, and I had no problems at all. When you're a runner, you need to know the course. There were plenty of course maps available at the packet pick up. Next time, pick one up, study it, know where you're going! Thanks Jeff, keep up the good work !
Mike McDonald, Lubbock, Texas
By: kara L.
Posted: October 13, 2011
Fresh air, perfect weather, great small race
I have run 7 marathons before and so far this has been the smallest. I would say it is definitly worth your time to run it.
Pros: Pretty, air smelled like pine trees, volunteers were super nice, path took us through nice areas I didn't know existed in Boise. Plenty of toilets, water and volunteers.
Cons: Small race (200 marathoners this year)so if you're slow, you'll be on your own for a majority of the race (I ducked into a potty then came out and all the racers were gone, I was by myself for a mile before I saw the racers again!)..bring your confidence!
Suggestions: 1. A couple of cones through long stretches just to show that runners are still on course would help with the mental aspect of it.
2. More advertisement throughout town so locals know a race is going on..one driver yelled at a volunteer for stopping traffic, poor girl..maybe Boise isn't into running as much as other places?
3. Make BIG mile marker signs...I mean BIG...like go to Kinko's and have some poster board sized mile markers made. It helps psychologically :)
4. See if race directors can get someone to donate walkie talkies for volunteers near the 19-25 mile markers. I'm a slow runner and when I got to a crucial confusing turning point near the very end the volunteer asked if there was anyone behind me..then said she was supposed to go home an hour ago, but didn't want to leave anyone stranded..What a great lady to stay for us slow pokes!!
All in all, this was a great little race and I would recommend it for everyone, although the faster runners might like it more :)
By: Paul J.
Posted: October 11, 2011
Excellent marathon
I participated in the 2011 City of Trees marathon, and I thoroughly enjoyed it. We stayed at the host hotel just a block & a half from the start, and the finish. That's ultra convenient. The course was entertaining w/scenic views of Boise and its neighborhoods. If you're interested in a marathon with less than 500 participants I strongly recommend the City of Tree event. The course volunteers were excellent. Way to go team.
By: Mausling J.
Posted: October 11, 2011
Fun Race!
For my first marathon I had a great time. The course was good and people were out to cheer. Only negative was not enough food stops with waters stops. Overall had a great time.
By: Daniel E.
Posted: November 28, 2010
Nice race, but missing directions at the end
At about mile 21, there were no arrows to point the right directions, meaning that my small group of runners turned the wrong way and ended up doing almost a whole mile extra. During the second part of the race there were very few volunteers, and I ended up having to wait for traffic lights at a couple of places. Perhaps there were police officers there earlier to stop traffic for runners, but there were none when I ran by.
By: Keith P.
Posted: November 10, 2010
Disappointed - poorly marked/monitored course
Disappointed. Having run 250-plus marathons, this has to be one of the worst-marked/monitored road courses I have ever run. Because of the limited number of marathon runners, you had to concentrate on looking for course markings to guide you through parking lots, paved trails, etc. Unfortunately I veered off course, costing me about two minutes. This could have easily been avoided with a 50-cent orange cone or a volunteer. Upon finishing the race, I spoke with at least 6 other runners who had gone off the course at different points between miles 18 - 24. There were also a number of places on the course that could have easily been "shortcut" by runners and more timing checkpoints/mats should have been strategically placed and/or better monitoring. I had run this race in 2005, which was a much better/different course.
Boise is a great, small town that deserves a marathon to match!
By: Steve W.
Posted: November 05, 2010
Nice race... but
It needs much more community support. This is the 4th time I have run this race. The route has been changed from a few years back.
Federal Way has a great view of the city and then down Capital Blvd. to the bike path and then through the North End and then up on the bench.
I thought it was a "fast" course, but it needs more spectators. Just a thought: rather than the run around Ann Morrison Park, what about a lap around the track at Bronco Stadium by the Blue Turf?
By: Marathon R.
Posted: October 23, 2010
Well organized race
This is a small race, with fewer than 300 marathoners, and 500 in the half. But it is very well organized and reminds me of a lot well organized, smaller, local 10Ks/half marathons that I've run. Definitely not a major event. But a marathon is a marathon and it's about running. The course is great. The first lap for the marathon takes an outside loop of the city and the sunrise was a pleasant distraction. (No sun in the eyes for the marathon, which starts 1 hour before the half). It was a bit hot this year, but the second loop follows city streets through neighborhoods and offers plenty of shade in the "City of Trees.' A nice feature of this race has to be the hotel location. The race host Double Tree and the Springhill Suites, where I stayed, are a block from the start and finish. This is a huge advantage. Warming up and stretching out in my hotel until 10 minutes before the start was great. Possible Improvements: eliminate the short out-and-back during mile 23, get volunteers at the major turns, and try to rally a bit more community crowd support. People around town were coincidentally out and about but seemed surprised that marathoners were running by.
By: Daniel E.
Posted: October 19, 2010
Nice course, but easy to get lost
When I got to the second loop of the full marathon course, some volunteers had already started packing up the water stations, which would have been a problem if I hadn't carried my own electrolyte drink. After mile 15, there were no more volunteers showing the way and stopping traffic, so I ended up having to follow the not-always-easy-to-find arrows on the ground and having to stop a stoplights in a couple of places. That worked okay until mile 21.5, where there was absolutely no markings when coming down the hill. Because I didn't know which way to go, I ended up going the wrong way before I decided that I MUST be going the wrong way and went back towards the greenway, where I found the course again.
I can only imagine what would have happened to the course navigation if rain had erased the flour arrows...
The volunteers were really friendly, but there were not a lot of spectators.
The course was nice and not too hard, but running an extra 0.8 miles because of the wrong turn was a downer.
I recommend this race to people who are fast enough to get volunteer help all the way. :-) The race organizer puts on a very nice race, but having to fight traffic and wait for the traffic lights to turn felt "un-race-like."
By: Keith P.
Posted: October 18, 2010
Awful course marking/monitoring
This has to be one of the worst marked/monitored road courses I have ever run. Because of the limited number of marathon runners, you had to concentrate on looking for course markings to guide you through parking lots, paved trails, etc. Unfortunately I veered off-course, costing me about two minutes. this could have easily been avoided with a 50-cent orange cone or a volunteer. Upon finishing the race, I spoke with at least 6 other runners who had gone off-course at different points between miles 18 - 24. There were also a number of places on the course that could have easily been "shortcut" by runners and more timing checkpoints/mats should have been strategically placed (or there should've been better monitoring). I had run this race previously in 2005, which was a much better/different course.
Boise is a great small town and deserves a marathon to match!
By: Wijnand Rijkenberg
Posted: October 12, 2010
Beautiful marathon in friendly city
It's a small marathon, but I think it has lots of potential. The course is beautiful and the people and volunteers are very friendly. The weather helped this year as well. If this marathon wants to grow and improve, it will need to be a bit more professional overall. Canceling the bus course tour on Saturday was a big bummer! I feel like there should have been more aid stations with energy gels (there were only 2, right? At 6 and 20?). Some spots on the course needed more volunteers to point runners in the right direction. I had no issues because I know Boise, but I noticed runners getting confused here and there. For example, some full-marathonners were turning left towards Warm Springs on the greenbelt (onto Marden St.) with less than a mile to go!! There were no volunteers there. The post-race refreshments were just so-so. But like I said, great atmosphere. I'm glad I ran my first marathon in the City of Trees!
By: Jennifer S.
Posted: October 10, 2010
Half-marathon course disappointing until the end
Won't do this half again unless they change the course. Federal Way is just plain ugly. Preferred the old route through north end. First 3 miles we were running straight into the rising sun. Volunteers were nice.
By: Steve W.
Posted: August 31, 2010
Good race
This is a small race, but a good course. Last year it rained hard the whole day... but that sure wasn't the organizers' fault. After mile 10 or so the half and full separate. Five mile are out and back for the full, but I enjoyed it.
For a small race, it is fun.
By: John S.
Posted: July 31, 2010
Good Race - Better Next Year
A great race! Hard to control Mother Nature. Good organization with attention to detail. Appreciate Jeff and the team. Like having this race on Sunday; they should continue that - it gives ample time to get family here to have some vacation time prior to the race.
By: Pam M.
Posted: October 07, 2009
This city has so much more to offer!
This was my first trip to Idaho. I have run six marathons and four half-marathons - and this was my fifth. This city is awesome, but the half-marathon course left SO much of it out: Historical neighborhoods, campus, downtown, etc. I can't speak for the full marathon course. Other than that, I thought it was a good race. It was nice to have some hot soup at the finish line. :)
I can't find my name in the results, but I'm pretty sure I was there.
By: george b.
Posted: October 06, 2009
The race director did a great job
I had a good marathon, and the race director did a great job of planning for the marathon. I had a problem with the media coverage of the marathon. There was none. The town of Boise owes the race director and volunteers a big "thank you."
By: Kevin E.
Posted: October 06, 2009
Bad Luck Weather
Boise usually doesn't get a lot of rain, but at the start of this race, it was around 37 degrees and raining steadily. Luckily, it changed to a race-long drizzle and continued all day. I think this is why the number of spectators was smaller than normal. Cold and rainy is not ideal for folks who only get to stand and watch.
Jeff always organizes these races very well. I'm sure that the number of participants would double if this race were held on a Saturday morning, as many of the LDS runners in Boise won't run on Sunday. However, the number of runners was ideal. The race was neither small nor big.
My only complaint on the course would be the downhill from Federal Way towards the green belt. It's downhill on concrete. There are some concrete stretches in other areas. It would be nice to find a way to eliminate these stretches. It's a little jarring on the joints.
All in all, Boise is awesome, and very peaceful and nice on a Sunday morning. Thanks, Jeff and volunteers. Your team is better than what I've seen in most races. I'll fly in from Minneapolis every year to enjoy the City of Trees Marathon.
- Kevin
By: Rebecka Thoms
Posted: October 06, 2009
Nice little race
This was only my second full marathon, and my previous marathon and halfs have been at some huge ones, so this was actually kind of a nice change. There were virtually no spectators along the course except for the few groups that were driving around to support their respective runners. My husband and kids were able to meet me at several points in the race, which was awesome! All of the volunteers were great! The course was also very nice, although the area somewhere in the late teens was a bit too scary with traffic; but again, the volunteers were amazing. There were plenty of water stations, but the sports drink was Heed and I have never used that so I wasn't going to try it out mid-marathon. I have to agree with the below post about the medal. It would be really nice to have a year at least on there. One thing I would recommend would be more upright signs. Again, in the late teens and early 20's it was mostly chalk arrows on the ground so you can't really see it until your on top of it, and the field was so sparse that there were times when I could barely see anyone in front of me to follow. Overall I thought it was a good race, and I'll do it again next year.
By: jason h.
Posted: October 05, 2009
Feel of a small race needed more on-course support
The course was not a bad course and was the best part of the race. It was not a closed course but there were volunteers to stop traffic at most intersections. I was impressed with the number of volunteers to help with directing runners. There were very few spots with spectators. There were aid stations spaced nicely, but half of them only offered water and the other half offered Heed. On the website they said that there would be sports drink, which I assumed to be PowerAde or Gatorade. This was not true. The only other thing offered was at mile 19; they had Hammer Gel, but other than that, there were no other options. The medal was alright; it was silver with no color, but the real issue I had with the medal is that it did not have a date or even a year on the medal or ribbon.
By: Annie M.
Posted: October 28, 2008
Improve Aid Stations
This was my first marathon. The course provided a nice tour of Boise, and was mostly flat. The stretch along Americana is a bit rough, especially with the traffic. The volunteers and spectators were great! There were many stretches where I was completely alone - no fans, runners or volunteers in sight. My next marathon will definitely be a bigger one, with more than 160 runners. My biggest complaint was that there were not any sports drinks until mile 17 - that really threw me off and was a disappointment!
By: Kate L.
Posted: October 26, 2008
A great PR course in Idaho
Since this was only my 2nd marathon, I can only compare it to Mesa Falls (my 1st). This course was virtually without hills. I ran it 28 minutes faster than Mesa Falls. While I have only run 2 marathons, I have, however, run 20+ 1/2-marathons and am always appreciative of all the volunteers and their parts they happily play to give us a great running experience. This was true of the volunteers at the City of Trees. I'm used to very few fans, so no surprises there. Those that were there along the course were needed and appreciated!
I too went off course at mile "twenty-something" (it got a little mentally muddy) but not by much. I too won my division in spite of the flub.
Beautiful trees! Beautiful homes! A little creepy running on the right side of the road... whose idea was that, I wonder, and why?
We stayed downtown because of a free room opportunity and when talking with the locals, no one knew there even WAS a marathon that day. More PR would help.
Bread and broth with a banana were not really enough, but we went to eat soon after anyway.
I had a great time and will probably be back as Boise is close enough to home to be do-able and is on a weekend when I'm not running anywhere else.
By: Paul Timm
Posted: October 12, 2008
So-so experience
This was my third marathon and by far the smallest. I get that lower-budget races are different, but this, frankly, was less fun than the mid-size races (Salt Lake, Carlsbad, CA) I have run recently. I guess the bottom line is that the effort expended is the same, so I'll opt for a bigger race with more company/support in the future.
That said, the limited number of Boise "fans" were really nice people. The aid stations were inadequate - mostly just water, only one with GU that I recall. (I did carry my own, fortunately.) There is no entertainment on the route, and with just 157 marathoners, we got spread out real thin. I missed one turn about 23 miles into it and added another 100 yards or so - not that big a deal, but frustrating. The painted arrow pointed straight where I should have turned.
I missed the camaraderie of the larger races - I guess I'm a social animal. I was pleased with my result (cut 20 minutes off my last marathon and won my age), but again, I guess it just wasn't quite as much fun.
Food at finish was pretty sparse. Awards ceremony took a long time, and seemed disorganized. Proximity to hotels was excellent! Course was pretty and varied, although sharing some narrow streets with traffic felt a little dicey at times.
I won't run this one again, but did chalk off Idaho (now just 46 states to go!!).
I love marathoning and hope to do more next year, especially since most of my 65+ age competition is dying off and I actually get to win! Thanks, MarathonGuide.com for all the good info. Next stop: Maui in January.
By: Justin S.
Posted: October 08, 2008
Good, but room for improvement
Let me start by saying that this was my first marathon, so take my comments with a grain of salt. The course for the marathon was great and showed the best of Boise. It could have been marked better, but given the race's low budget, I think the safety was adequate. Boise PD and volunteers were out in force and did an excellent job. My main complaint was the lack of replenishment along the course. The website led me to believe that there would be sports drinks and gels, bars, etc. every four miles. The announcement was made 10 minutes before the race that there would only be gels at mile 19. Luckily I packed my own gels. I don't want this to overshadow the overall good experience in the race, but this was unacceptable, in my opinion.
I would run this race again, but if I were looking for a premier event, I'd go elsewhere. The event is low-key, with small but spirited crowds along the course.
By: Edward F.
Posted: October 06, 2008
Not Quite Ready for Prime Time
I think this race has lots of potential. It's quite small and could use a dose of PR. No reason why the local paper shouldn't run a story; none of the locals seem to know about this event. The biggest need for change is the course design. The parts along the busy road are pretty treacherous. I was "buzzed" more than once by an irritated driver who didn't like sharing the road. Plus, I felt unsure that I was on course several times during the parkway portion. Other than that, the course is flat, volunteers were very friendly and the start/finish were quite convenient in relation to the host hotel.
By: Curt P.
Posted: September 05, 2008
Course comment
Like everyone else, I enjoyed the flat course, and the volunteers are great. I do have one comment, though. I think you should get rid of the out-and-back to nowhere just prior to going up the hill on Americana. Isn't there a better way to set up the course than to run down one side of the street and then turn around and go right back up the other side? Other than that, I thought it was great.
By: Gina Y.
Posted: October 19, 2007
A nice Sunday run!
This race was a great 26.2 mile Sunday run. Pretty much the only spectators were the volunteers at the aid stations, which was refreshing. It was great weather and a nice low key course. The volunteers were great. Aside from the shirt, also got a duffle bag and a local PT place was handing out free track bags and gloves. Everyone around town was nice. I agree that the chip needs to go to a tie on the shoe model, I also am dealing with sores from the band being around my ankle. I PRed so I recommend this course for a flat fast time. Host hotel was very accomodating. More food/drink outside at the finish line would be better, maybe some bananas, gatorade, cookies, bagels. And thanks to the family that rode around the entire course with the doors to their van open cheering for us all!
By: Leonard Braun
Posted: October 12, 2007
Small, friendly, very well done event.
I have done 69 marathons now and City of Trees was my 69th. As I accumulate more marathons and as I age, I appreciate the simple aspects of running and enjoy the smaller events more and more. No need for a fancy expo, a list of so called elite athletes, etc. The City of Trees was just that kind of event where you just had an enjoyable time. With the weather as perfect as can be, the volunteers were superb. I thought Jeff did a fantastic job, all things considered, with the Boise St. football team getting all the headlines. Overall. if you're looking for flat, fast, cool and spectator-free event, then this is the one. If you need spectators to run, then you probably need to take up another sport. This is what marathoning is all about - having fun and digging down and finishing. Great job and I will try to be back next year.
By: john j.
Posted: October 12, 2007
Quiet amble through the trees
A quiet Sunday a.m. marathon that I ran to enjoy the journey on this figure-8 course that mostly meanders along tree-lined residential streets. This was my 14th marathon, and my second easiest because I took my time to stretch and drink. I only saw the clock once - at the finish line. I only ran two miles with other runners. Thanks to the young man who told me, "Well done," at mile 20. Simple and memorable. The dozen bagpipers at mile 24 were awesome... thanks for pushing me through the final two miles. Well organized for a city marathon; good traffic control with two loops through central Boise. Nice yellow T-shirt and the chicken noodle soup was great. Thank you to all the volunteers.
By: Scott S.
Posted: October 11, 2007
Great, small marathon
I have done NYC and larger marathons, but I really enjoyed the solitude of this "long lonely jog," guided by the great volunteers and cops managing traffic. Not many spectators, as the race has only about 170 participants and is not advertised locally, but the finish line fans were enough. The mile markers were way off and did frustrate me as I was looking to do splits to qualify for Boston - but I'll take it, as I clocked a PR by 12 minutes. Great Boston qualifier - flat, fast course.
By: Kevin L.
Posted: October 11, 2007
Great setting, low key run
What a beautiful setting and weather. The course went through beautiful neighborhoods. Great support for a small event! If I didn't live so far away, I would do it again for sure! Worth the trip.
Cons:
- Concur with others that mile markers were off. (Still ran a PR.)
- No food at the finish.
- Ankle bands for timing chips left me with several sores. Attach the chips to the shoes like the bigger races.
By: Rachel P.
Posted: October 11, 2007
Great Experience!
This race was my first marathon! Overall, very happy with the organization and support. The volunteers were amazing - very encouraging. Beautiful course and great weather. Only disappointment was the information about the awards ceremony and available food - I was starving! :) Look forward to running again next year!
By: M J H.
Posted: October 10, 2007
Beautiful Course; Friendly Volunteers
The course showcased some of the best of Boise and was very convenient since it was a loop course with plenty of parking at the start/finish. Like others, I noticed that the mile markers were inaccurate. The course was open to traffic but the volunteers and police controlling the intersections did a great job. The volunteers and other runners were friendly and encouraging. It would be nice if women's sizing was offered for the shirt. Check this one out if you're looking for a smaller, low-key event.
By: Carrie Q.
Posted: October 09, 2007
Mile markers were off
Miles 2 and 13 were way off for the half marathon. I knew this because I live here and knew the course beforehand. Not so good if you're going for a time and need to do splits. I still made my time, but if too many more were off it would've messed me up.
By: Cyndie M.
Posted: October 09, 2007
Cheery volunteers
My GPS recorded 26.23 miles which is closer than most marathons. The mile 22 marker may have been too close to 21 and too far from 23. For me, the most remarkable thing was how cheerful and encouraging the traffic monitors were. Even some who seemed to be in a dangerous and difficult traffic situation were friendly and encouraging to me. It is hard to have a marathon on open city streets. It was well done.
By: Joan Z.
Posted: October 09, 2007
Beautiful course; recommended for first-timers.
Loved the course and the overall organization was great. However, food at the end was marginal if that. I was surprised there was so little. Medical aid was great and the support for injuries was fantastic.
By: Lynne P.
Posted: October 09, 2007
A lonely race
The course really showcased what a beautiful city Boise is and the volunteers were amazing.....with that said, I was amazed at how few runners there were and almost total lack of spectators. Besides the finish line and the aid stations, it was pretty lonely out there. There was no mention of anything before, on, or after race day in the Statesman (the local paper). Engage the press. Boise has more to offer than Bronco football (good luck convincing Mike Pratter of that).
I was also searching for food at the finish line (a bananna, orange wedge, anything!) One volunteer told me there was none. I just found out today that there was soup and an awards ceremony in the hotel. Wish I would have known that. A simple sign could have helped us (as I heard other runners asking for food too).
The mile markers were off which made it difficult to monitor splits. One mile I ran a 6:55, the next was 9:10?
I don't know if I'll run this one again.
By: Tom Van Winkle
Posted: October 08, 2007
Beautiful, flat course. Highly recommend.
This is my favorite marathon to date. I was impressed. The course is flat and highlights the beauty of Boise. It runs through the city as well as residential areas. The people/volunteers were some of the friendliest. If you don't mind the lack of fan support I highly recommend this race. It was better than expected. I hope to run it again someday.
By: Jodi W.
Posted: October 07, 2007
Need to check mile markers
Three of us who had GPS watches noticed that the mile markers were off... starting at mile 2, where the distance between mile 1 and mile 2 was 1.25 miles. The 1/2 marathon was 13.32 miles... so you probably need to remeasure before next year. Maybe take out that little jog to the right off of Americana!
By: Brian Fox
Posted: October 07, 2007
Great race for PR, first marathon, or 50 states
Awesome weather, very decent organization, nice course. I don't hand out 5-star ratings easily, so don't let my 4-star ratings bring anything down. Few fans, but all were great, especially the same ones that I saw in two or three different places along the course. Volunteers were supportive and did a great job.
The mileage markers were confusing where the full and half marathons came back together to share the course. At mile 13, I thought I must be melting the asphalt with my speed, but that was mile 13 for the full marathon, not the half. Labels differentiating between the two would be nice. That, and the mileage markers were small. I missed markers #2 and #9. The medal was an unexpectedly nice touch. Volunteers searching out finishers to give them water and lip balm were nice as well.
By: John M.
Posted: December 17, 2006
Wonderful long weekend trip to see BEAUTIFUL Boise
Fantastic race: scenic course that highlights Boise, friendly race director and volunteers, plenty of fully stocked aid stations, and a SUPER race. Extremely impressed with this enjoyable low-key race and the friendly city of Boise. We can't wait to go back.
By: Brian Baker
Posted: December 04, 2006
It can't get much better than this...
I have run this marathon six times now (all five years and once with Dean Karnazes). After 42 marathons, this one is the "complete package." There may be better courses or may be better weather, but the organization, the indoor food and awards, etc. are all top-notch. I can't knock the lack of fan support too hard because it poured down rain this year. But those diehard volunteers put a smile on my face for 26.2 miles!
I heard the date will be earlier (much better weather) and the course may change to showcase a different part of the city, so expect to see me again in 2007!
By: zardoz h.
Posted: November 26, 2006
City of Trees Fun In Novemeber
My ninth different marathon. Flat course, except for one small hill. Beautiful tree-lined course. Convenient hotel. RAIN... rain... rain... rain... rain - cold, hard rain. Cool medal, but ugly shirt. Great volunteers. Friendly city. Course open to traffic much of the race. No food to be found at the finish line. Solid aid stations. Course occasionally hard to follow. Don't wear a Fresno State sweatshirt for the race (within two days after Boise State and Fresno State played), which I did. Good shot at a PR, if it would stop raining. Great downtown area - great restaurants.
By: lee h.
Posted: November 16, 2006
Very friendly
Very well organized. Good, flat course. It rained for the entire race but I was prepared with my trash bag.
By: John T.
Posted: November 13, 2006
Good Marathon Event
The volunteers were excellent and the police officers did an excellent job of controlling traffic. Not sure what to do to improve. If weather permits, the post-race food and beverages should be outside near the finish so we can all watch the remaining finishers. This race will improve and grow as the number of runners continue to grow.
By: Julia R.
Posted: November 13, 2006
Beautiful course & GREAT volunteers!
My first time running this course and it was beautiful! There were not a lot of spectators on the course (mostly volunteers) but the people out there were GREAT! Very enthusiastic and supportive. The last mile (heading past the finish line) was hard mentally simply because I was tired and could see the finish but couldn't stop (always a cruel thing to do to any marathoner). ;-) The soup at the end was fantastic! Just what this tired marathoner needed. I'd definitely recommend this race for anyone wanting a low-key, fun marathon. I also stayed at the sponsoring hotel, which was very convenient (step out the door and you're at the start line and when you finish, you're at your room!).
By: Tami M.
Posted: November 12, 2006
Nice small-town race
Overall, I thought this race was well organized and would recommend it.
Pros:
- Nice flat course
- Host hotel was very accommodating to the runners
- Airport shuttle eliminated the need for a car
- Start and finish line literally steps from the host hotel
- Plenty of aid stations; nice volunteers
- Nice medal and race shirt
Cons:
- PowerAde was not offered at every water station.
- Mile markers were not easy to see and I wondered about the accuracy of their spacing (I ran a 9:15 for mile 24, 7:58 for mile 25, and 9:15 for the last 1.2 miles in...?)
Like one of the previous runners commented, I didn't know there was any food after the race until I saw someone walking down the hallway toward her hotel room carrying a bowl of soup. Was that publicized anywhere?
One suggestion to consider would be to allow an early start option. Since there are so few flights in and out of Boise, it made it a little tight to run and make my flight home on Sunday.
Overall, I enjoyed the race. You had a nice expo, especially compared to the size of the race. The Idaho spuds were a nice touch (I'd just seen them highlighted on the Food Network! :)) Nice job! It was a good one with which to check off my 46th state.
By: Adam S.
Posted: November 08, 2006
Great race; beautiful city; nice and wet.
I had a fantastic day running through the city of trees despite the rain (yet again). The course is easy to run because it is a loop rather than an out-and-back. There did seem to be a bit of a snafu with traffic this year. Better course markings (where runners should be in relation to traffic) would have helped considerably. The volunteers were FANTASTIC. People with pom-poms and cowbells and always a word of encouragement. Very highly recommended.
By: Matt B.
Posted: November 07, 2006
Solid Small Marathon
The Twin Cities Marathon bills itself as the "most beautiful urban marathon," but having done 13 marathons including Twin Cities, I think Boise owns that crown so far. Despite the nasty weather, the course is quite nice. It's very, very flat with only a single incline. Agree with prior comment re: course marking, though it's very unlikely someone will take a wrong turn. I also agree with prior comment about engaging the community a bit more - probably easier said than done, of course. Can't underestimate how nice it is to have your hotel room one flight of steps from the start/finish. Note: This is the exact opposite of a spectacle marathon (e.g., NYC, Chicago, Marine Corps). This is no-frills, which is just fine because there's no pretense of it being otherwise. Thanks to the volunteers - in a small marathon like this, their job becomes all the more essential. I hope people will support marathons like this because ING can't sponsor them all....
By: Remi P.
Posted: November 07, 2006
Great Event!
Overall, I enjoyed myself. The support was phenomenal. Thank you all for volunteering the rain!
This is a great race for first-timers and old-timers. The only negative is that there were no medals for the halfers! This is only my second half marathon, but I think finshing a half should be recognized.
Other than that, it was a great experience. I would not mind returning for the full.
By: Masako R.
Posted: November 07, 2006
Wonderful Volunteers!!!!
I have ran many marathons, but is was my very first rained race. It started with some light rain, which was not so bad, but it got heavier later on, which was rough. It could not be easy for all volunteers.... Thank you!!!!
The couse was OK. Well stocked aid/water stations throughout the race. After the race, I was only offered a cup of water.... There was food? Where?
Anyway.... Thank you for the volunteers!!!
By: Pati N.
Posted: November 07, 2006
Wet, but enjoyed the race anyway
My husband ran the full marathon, but I ran the half. Unfortunately, after a lovely Saturday, it rained pretty steadily all day long on Sunday. Nice and cool for the runners but hard on the volunteers; yet I never heard one complaint, and the volunteers seemed surprised to be thanked for their help. Nice expo and bus tour of the course on Saturday, scenic course, a warm, dry place for the awards ceremony and hot food after the race. What's not to like?
By the way, there was a photo and a short story about the race in the Monday morning Boise paper.
By: Jon Walk
Posted: November 07, 2006
Good Marathon
First and foremost, the volunteers are what make this race! Even though I was personally having a rough day, not one volunteer would let me see that in myself! What an incredible job!
Living in Houston, where we have a closed course, Boise is basically completely open - which, at times, can be - and was - challenging.
While the turns are marked (on the street) as you approach them, please mark the middle of the street so runners can know where they can run the tangent on a certified course.
The course was OK, but it is better than long out and backs in industrial areas - or along the Rio Grande in Albuquerque.
I agree with an earlier comment. Play the national anthem at the start. It's America and it fits in with the impression that I have of Boise being an All-American city. (And I don't know if it was possible, but having the Marine Corps Marathon women's winner from Boise would have been a nice touch as a race starter (and to talk to everyone.)
I expected a preview article in the local paper on Sunday, but all there was was a wire story article on the NYC Marathon and a picture of Lance. Engage the press. There's more to Boise than Boise State football.
By: Kasandra B.
Posted: November 18, 2005
Great course. Great volunteers.
Last year I ran my first half marathon in COT, and it was great. This year I ran the whole marathon. Same great course, with well stocked aid stations. The negative comment I do have about this race is about the post-race food. After I finished running 26 miles in the rain, I was looking forward to some soup and a bagel. But there was not any food. What happened? What a disappointing ending to what otherwise was an excellent marathon.
By: mike jones
Posted: November 17, 2005
1st time I ran a marathon
This was my first marathon. It was well organized. I was undertrained and started struggling around the 17 mile. A lady from Texas talked me through the next 2 miles. Than I ran, limped, crawled 2 miles before a passerby saw me and pushed me to finish the final 6 miles. To you, I am immensely thankful. I finished close to last, but my goal was to finish. As I crossed the finish line damn near last, the crowd greeted me, gave me a beautiful medal and made me feel like I won. I don't have the dedication to run another marathon, but if I did, I would reccomend the one in Boise. It's a beautiful city. I took over 100 pictures while running. I talked to almost every volunteer and I chatted with anyone that would listen.
By: Donna T.
Posted: November 15, 2005
Excellent volunteer support; great race!
If you want to enjoy many of the amenities of a big city race with a fraction of the hassle, consider COT! Boise is a lovely city, and COT showcased it in autumnal splendor. Excellent organization and very runner-friendly. No need to rent a car; host hotel has a shuttle & the start is right outside the hotel. Lovely course was very well-marked and contained only one hill, informative & entertaining course tour, great post-race snacks (two kinds of soup + free beer!). Few spectators (probably because of rain) but those there were enthusiatic. Plentiful, well-stocked aid stations, loads of friendly, helpful volunteers. I'll do COT again.
By: Jim M.
Posted: November 11, 2005
Very Enjoyable Course and Helpful Volunteers
I really enjoyed the course and the weather. There was some rain but not too bad and I enjoy runnig when it is cool. The volunteers were very helpful and there is no way I could have gotten lost. Having the start and finish at the race hotel is a big plus. No long bus ride to the finish. I plan to do this one again.
By: Rob S.
Posted: November 09, 2005
Excellent marathon!
This was my first marathon and it exceeded my expectations. The course was beautiful and the event was very well organized. Great aid stations and supporters. Highly recommended!
By: Danny Guiney
Posted: November 08, 2005
Well organized RUN
The flat course was great. What a beautiful city. It is no wonder so many people from all over are migrating to you community.
The vollunteers at the intersection and the volunteers at the aid stations were so enthusiastic and very supportive. I have run in larger marathons and the support from the larger amount of people on the sides of the road does not compare to the support I received in this smaller run. The volunteers/fans at the aid station at mile 24 serving the much needed Bud Light were my favorite. It was a good reason to take a few minutes and enjoy a nice beer and good company.
I did not take part in the 'pasta feed' or the pre-race tour but I thought the hotel staff were more than accommodating and the idea of being able to stay inside before and after the race was great. I loved the complimentary post-race food/beverages and the massage was worth the few dollars I paid.
I would highly recommend this run to anyone looking for a small, well run marathon.
Thanks again to the City of Boise the people of Idaho and all the volunteers.
By: John F. H.
Posted: November 08, 2005
Good Small Marathon, Can Be Great
A day for true runners, it rained 4 out of the 6 hours I was on the course. Cool 40's. This marathon can go from good to great by paying attention to a few details. The following remarks are given with great goodwill and in the vein of which do you want to hear first, the good or the bad? Here goes!
Glaring omission - no national anthem at the start. No apparent start-of-race video, photography or press. Need to strongly promote that! Very little photographic presence on course. No finish line photographic coverage for individual finishers or for a post-race picture. No finisher's medals bestowed at finish for late finishers. Had to hunt them down. No hot food for late finishers. No personal handout of awards for eligible late finishers or info on how and where to pick up an award later. Course jog off of Americana Blvd. not marked on the map or in the directions - low on the favorite surprise scale.
Now for the good! Beautiful course even in the dreary cold rain. Volunteers for intersections, traffic, support stops were superb! Bagpipes and banjo band on course, super. Great but minuscule spectators, weather. Spirit groups at two support tables with hula skirts and music along with handouts, great! Beer at mile 23+, super! Mylar wrap at finish, so good. Post-race beer hospitality, cheers. Excellent seminars and good expo. Great color write-up next day in local newspaper of some late finishers' triumphs. Kudos to the marathon director and staff. You have the possibility of a great one!
By: Jean B.
Posted: November 07, 2005
Great race!!!
This was my first half-marathon, and I'm so glad I picked this one. The route was well marked and the volunteers were wonderful. It was a little congested getting the t-shirt at the end. I will be doing this one again next year.
By: Dana W.
Posted: November 07, 2005
Fantastic Race!
The City Of Trees Marathon was great! I highly recommend it to anyone who wants to run a fall marathon and can't afford to fly to Chicago or New York. :) The course was flat, yet challenging, and beautiful. The race was organized very well. The volunteers and spectators were attentive and enthusiastic. I will be back! Kudos to Boise for a great marathon! Thank you!
By: samantha k.
Posted: March 12, 2005
Done it twice, hope to do it again and again
I ran this marathon in 2003 and 2004. I hope to do it again in 2005. It's a great, mostly flat course with just one little hill. The course goes through downtown, nice neighborhoods, and quiet areas. My only complaint about the course is that they keep you on the right side of the road the entire time and the roads are pretty cambered/crowned so by mile 18 or so you may get tired of your right leg always being 2 inches lower than your left.
My IT band seized up around mile 23 and I sort of limped the remaining 3 miles. Now here comes the good part - I cannot begin to count how many volunteers asked me if I was ok or if I needed help. Very nice folks.
As far as organization, my only complaint is at the last turn before the finish. It was a confusing jumble of marathoners go this way, 1/2 marathoners go that way. A volunteer told me to go straight and I told her 'no, I need to go that way (left)' and she insisted I needed to go straight until I stopped and told her I had just finished mile 26, so which way to the finish line, which I could see a few blocks away. But other than that one turn, the organization was great. The intersections were well patrolled. More porta-potties would be nice... A couple times I was thrilled to find a porta-potty but then it was occupied....
The bands in the downtown area are SO great.
Boise is a great town. Clean and friendly and everything is convenient.
Pasta dinner and guest speaker were great.
By: Richard O.
Posted: November 21, 2004
Great people, nice race, beautiful city
Five stars for 'fans' but this is really for the volunteers and race officials who were absolutely terrific; especially the ones along the course. There are few real 'fans' but who cares? I've never done a 'big' marathon, so I don't expect crowds along the course, the volunteers at the aid stations more than made up for any fans. The 'Girls on the Go' at mile 14 were my favorite.
The course is a nice winding trek through Boise, flat except for one small hill. The course would rate 5 stars except for the unexpected little out-and-back section just before the hill (this section wasn't shown on the course tour). I'm getting all psyched up for the hill and then this little detour shows up... not cool.
There would have been 5 stars for organization except for the course tour. Two 'guides' got on the bus who didn't know the route or where the aid/mileage locations were. I had to give them my printed directions from the website for them to know where to go... such a great organization in other areas can do better...
Post-race space blankets were greatly appreciated as was the food... Race hotel was nice, it was great to stay upstairs nice and warm until 5 minutes before the race... and then just a short jaunt to the start line.
I recommend this race to anyone looking for a small, well run marathon... just do the course tour by yourself.
By: Ray & Margaret R.
Posted: November 14, 2004
No hassle, small town charm, great setting.
My wife and I ran this one together. We were extremely impressed with all aspects of the event. Host hotel at the start and finish line...awesome. Easy packet pick-up. Adequate expo. Great pasta dinner with inspiring speaker. Ultra friendly volunteers (despite unexpected cold and fog). We knew we were at our kind of race when after we finished, showered and napped, we left the hotel to eat and found the race director still outside waiting for the last finisher...some nine plus hours after the start. An obvious gesture that each participant is important regardless of their stature or ability. Great Job TOC Marathon. We loved you guys.
By: Claudia K.
Posted: November 13, 2004
Excellent organization and friendly people
This was my first marathon, and the excellent organization and spirited volunteer support made it very enjoyable. Of all of the races I've run in the past 25 years, this was one of the best in terms of organization and attentiveness to comfort and safety for all runners, including those of us at the back of the pack. Starting and finishing at a hotel, plenty of friendly volunteers all along the route, plus the good food at the end made this a wonderful experience for me. Thanks!
By: Nancy H.
Posted: November 13, 2004
Awesome volunteers!
I couldn't believe how friendly all of the volunteers were at this race. Whether they were at an aid station or in the middle of an intersection, they all smiled and cheered on the runners. This race was very well organized - the course was clearly marked and having it start and finish right outside the host hotel was a real plus. The hotel allowed us a 3pm checkout so we were able to shower, relax, attend the awards ceremony and then leisurely pack up our stuff. We loved all the free beer, too!
By: Brian P.
Posted: November 11, 2004
Flat, friendly and cool
The course winds around downtown and residential Boise through pleasant neighborhoods with colorful fall foliage. Aid stations and traffic control were excellent. Our hotel (the Owyhee Plaza) was right at the start/finish and graciously allowed us to defer our checkout until mid-afternoon, allowing time to clean up and rest after the race. And check out Asiago's just down the street for delicious dinners.
By: Bill M.
Posted: November 11, 2004
This is a well-run, not-too-big, fun marathon.
I ran this marathon on November 7, 2004. It was in the mid 30's at the start, with heavy fog. The fog never really lifted. This is just a real nice, well-organized, hassle-free marathon. It also has a half marathon for those who don't want to do a full marathon. It started and finished at the event hotel which was reasonably priced and had lots of rooms. You don't have to walk a long way to the start, or back from the finish. I liked this marathon very much and would recommend it highly.
By: JOHN C.
Posted: November 09, 2004
very well organized and supported
Everything was perfect. The volunteers were great - thank you - we can't do a race without them. Every intersection was worked by someone directing traffic and showing the way. I will be back.
By: Michelle S.
Posted: November 09, 2004
great race!
This was a really fun race to run! It's nice and flat and winds through some very pretty parts of town. The race was very well organized with lots of volunteers directing us and helping at water stops. Definitely one to do again. Bring your own spectators though!
By: Chris S.
Posted: November 08, 2004
Great race, nice town
Good Things:
-Despite the fact this course resembles a pretzel with all the turns, it was clearly marked for the marathon people. In addition, with ALL the street crossings I never felt unsafe, due to the fantastic volunteers. And with all the turns comes a lot of landscape variety.
-This is a PR course, particularly if you like your courses flat. Seriously, this one is as advertised. Tiny hill at mile 20.
-I stayed at the host hotel. Nothing is better than only having to come downstairs from your room to run!
-Great organization throughout, nice post-marathon grub (free beer!).
Three items of improvement:
1. Make the mile markers bigger, and make sure they are in the correct places. Some of us depend on them for pacing.
2. Put signs up for the expo.
3. Except for the great volunteers, not a lot of crowd support. HOWEVER, this is a small marathon and hopefully the crowds will grow with the marathon. Love to see this one get a little bigger.
Thanks, nice job guys! I will do this one again at some point.
By: Dave M.
Posted: November 08, 2004
one of the best small marathons
The City of Trees Marathon is a small race with only a few hundred entrants. The entire course is contained in the Boise urban area with the start/finish located downtown. The course runs through downtown, residential nieghborhoods, business areas and adjacent to parks and Boise State University. The course is well laid out and easy to follow. It is a fast course with only 2 small hills which reward the runner with a scenic view looking down at a nice park and the downtown area.
The amount of effort required to conduct a marathon that is run entirely on urban streets is enormous -but this race makes the job look easy. All of the amenities are on par with what would be expected from a much larger (i.e. bigger budget) event. COT Marathon had great organization, great traffic control, wonderful aid stations, an abundance of friendly volunteers as well as a good pre-race expo and post-race party. I would recommend this run to anyone looking for a good marathon experience for both first-timers and seasoned marathoners like myself.
By: Himroid loves NES
Posted: November 11, 2003
An up-and-coming race
This was my 30th marathon. Most of them have been big city events with huge crowds. The City of Trees obviously does not have the same number of cheering spectators or runners, but it does have a great course (except for the long out-and-back at the finish line). The organizers and volunteers are both enthusiastic and dedicated. The local pep squads, bands, and cheering groups were a lot of fun. This race should just get better and better. I think I'll run it every year for the next 25 or 30 years
By: Richard D.
Posted: November 10, 2003
A great fall marathon to run!
I was running through the streets of Boise thinking that 35,000 runners were running in New York City at the same time. I looked around me and I knew I was in the right place. Nice town, good organization, great folks. A race that should be done!
By: Samantha K.
Posted: November 07, 2003
Fast, Flat, Friendly, Good Aid Stations
This was my 4th marathon (not counting oodles of 1/2 marathons) and I'm putting this one on my list of marathons to do again and again.
OK, some of the volunteers needed better training and the course could have been marked a little better. A few times I had to yell out to the volunteers 'WHICH WAY DO I GO?' and there were a few intersections that should have been manned for traffic control and they were not. (In defense of the organizers, there were TONS of intersections on this course and 99% of them were handled well). So you do have to be your own safety advocate and pay attention out there. But isn't that true of any road race? The volunteers are there to HELP keep you safe but in the end we all have to keep our eyes and ears open...
That's about the only negative thing I have to say. The course always offered something to look at, from downtown, through cute neighborhoods, scenic vistas, etc. Nice variety kept it interesting. Plenty of aid stations with water, Powerade, fruit, and GU. Porta-potties along the way (thank you) so you never had to go more than a couple miles without seeing one. There were a few well placed bands (loved the drummers with the funky costumes) and groups of high school cheerleaders.
The course is flat flat flat with just one little hill to speak of (around mile 20 and it really is little).
Stay at the Owyhee Plaza Hotel. The start and finish are literally right out their front door. Decent hotel for a decent price. They offer late check-outs for no extra cost.
Pasta feed was pretty good. Whole wheat pasta was a nice touch but the sauce choices were meat-laden red sauce or fat-laden white sauce. How about meatless red sauce? Nice fruit salad and green salad though. Joe Henderson gave a nice, friendly, uplifting talk that was directed at all runners, not just the elite. Thanks Joe!
Boise is a nice, compact, clean, friendly town. Nice place for a great race. If you are looking for a fast, flat, friendly race with good support (in terms of aid stations, porta-potties, etc.) give this one a try.
By: Dorinda Leahy
Posted: November 07, 2003
Supercallafragilisticexpealadocious!
Bravo! To be perfectly honest, I thought the race was wonderful! It wasn't 'hard', though, I can't LIE to you, a marathon is NEVER easy!! But the course was nice, the people were grrrrrreat!! So what if they weren't always jumping up and down encouraging every single person as they ran by!!! They are VOLUNTEERS!! I give them a million 'points' for just volunteering and working hard! I felt lucky to be there and have a course open for us lucky runners to RUN!! The entertainment was awsome!! I got a kick out of the Hawaiian gang, the kids, the cheer leaders, the band and the drummers!!! Even the spectators in thick blankets and coats, thank you! It was cold (not HALF as cold as it was last year!) and to get the support we did get was great!! What a great small marathon!! I am lucky to live fairly close to such an event and participate! THANK YOU ALL FOR MAKING IT HAPPEN!! YOU ARE ROCKSTARS!
By: Brenda and Garret V.
Posted: November 06, 2003
We had so much fun
My son and I ran the half marathon and it was great. We received a lot of support from the fans and from the other runners. It really kept us going! The course was beautiful.
By: Jennifer W.
Posted: November 06, 2003
Proof that a half-marathon can be fun!
After the race, my non-running friends were shocked to hear that I had fun on my run through Boise. The view, the drum bands, the little-kid-high-fives, the camaraderie with other runners, it was all great! Thanks so much to the organizers for a job well done!
By: Russell G.
Posted: November 06, 2003
A typical smaller marathon
City of Trees was my 10th marathon. I would rate it somewhere in the middle of the pack. Please allow me to make a few suggestions on how to improve the marathon.
1. Include race day instructions in the packets. The only thing I was told when I picked up my packet was to be sure to be at the start at 8:00.
2. Get rid of the turn around the cone in the middle of the road at mile 20. It is very difficult at that point in the race to be forced to come to almost a complete stop.
Other than that the race was good. The volunteers at the water stops were great. Overall support was excellent with enough porta-johns and sufficient aid stations. The lady doing the announcing at the finish was very enthusiastic and did a great job announcing runners names and hometowns. The shirts were okay but the screening really doesn't stand out due to the color of the shirt. The medal is simple but nice. Definitely not a bad race, much better than the other marathon ran in Boise, the Great Potato.
By: Tom C.
Posted: November 05, 2003
Scenic course, friendly volunteers, great time
City of Trees Marathon is a great event that will only become better in future years. I am a 55 year-old, two-time marathoner with three goals - finish the race, have a good time and improve my time. I accomplished all three at the City of Trees. The course is scenic and flat. The volunteers are friendly and encouraging. Most importantly there were plenty of runners in the 3:45 to 4:15 time slot to help set the pace. I highly recommend this event for novice marathoners.
By: Rachel Z.
Posted: November 04, 2003
Good course, spotty support, terrible ending!
I ran the Boise half marathon this past weekend. It was a very nice course! It gave you a good picture of all of Boise, which is a very cute town! It was cold, but not too cold, 30-40 degrees the whole race and very dry. The aid stations were well manned throughout the whole race, down to the last racer. The support, when it was there, was generally enthusiastic, although the traffic officials weren't always encouraging. The most horrible thing about this race was the last 2 miles. First of all, since the course doubles back on itself a little bit, there was a point at about mile 12 of the half marathon where the ground was mismarked '13 miles' instead of 12. This was very misleading and disappointing to the half marathoners who really have over a mile left. That should be fixed. Second of all, the last 2 miles were very commercial and uninteresting. Makes the finish less dramatic than it should be. Lastly, the finish line is in view for about a half mile before you actually cross it. Seems like an eternity. Nice touch as you crossed the finish line, the announcer said your name, age and where you're from. Really made you feel good. Overall a nice race. The few glitches will hopefully be fixed by next year! I would run it again. (Nice long-sleeved t-shirt too)!!
By: Sonna S.
Posted: November 03, 2003
Great first marathon race
This was my first marathon and the City of Trees was perfect. Flat course, small size, cool weather, tons of support for the number of runners involved. Beautiful, clean, neighborhoods that the course traverses.
By: Carolyn K.
Posted: November 03, 2003
Terrific Marathon for Slow People
I have completed 32 marathons and this was the best one. I really loved this marathon. The organization and the volunteers were the best. The volunteers were so terrific for the people that were at the back of the pack. They were out on the course, in the cold weather cheering us on with lots of enthusiasm. Terrific marathon. Thanks!
By: steven r.
Posted: November 03, 2003
The marathon the town forgot
Okay, so it sounds like I'm gonna bash this race, but this is merely constructive criticism. Past comments pegged the directors as difficult when actually the race directors are pretty nice, runner-oriented people. They, like us, would like the red carpet treatment but that carries quite a price tag. What you do get for your money is quite a scenic tour of Boise, Idaho and most definitely worth the $58.
Unfortunately, the organizers can't train volunteers to speak runner lingo or move mountains. Many of the volunteers were more stoic than a marble statue and didn't even cheer as you ran by - either they were frozen or they just didn't care? This isn't to say every volunteer was quiet. There were a few cheerleaders and loud groups of young kids that were out cheering runners on. One volunteer at a critical junction directed me to the finish at 12 miles and I corrected her darting across 4 lanes of traffic and ironically at the 24 mile mark the same woman told be to do the second loop again rather than finish. Oh well, she was trying to fix the earlier error. Obviously, you need to pay attention or else you'll get misdirected. This can be easily corrected with proper volunteer training and better signs. Painting the street is difficult to read in busy sections of the course. I must admit the spray painted course arrows were difficult to follow at times (I thought I was off course) and many intersections were unmanned - not something you want to think about during your marathon.
What they do have is a beautiful course and something you wont worry about Kenyans coming and taking all the prizes. This is truly the peoples' marathon because the top finishers' times were relatively soft compared to typical marathons. I'd recommend this marathon in a couple of years after they get these hiccups dealt with. Mark it on your calendar in 2005. It should be great by then - for now it is a good race. I think the city could promote the race more so that people actually know about the race and fire people up.
By: Richelle A.
Posted: November 03, 2003
Boise is Beautiful
What a beautiful small town and a fine small marathon (300 people). The pasta dinner and staying at the host hotel is a must. High school kids are great but we needed more spectators at times and more music! This was my 7th marathon and will have many warm memories for me. Excellent hospitality and even Joe Henderson as a speaker to boot! The City of Trees earns it's name; it is truly is colorful with the foliage. Do this race, prepare for the cold, but you won't regret it. Small races rock. What a thrill to cross a finish line and have them say your name and hometown!
By: Stuart Graves
Posted: November 03, 2003
Blustery but beautiful Boise run!
It was a blustery day, but this didn't hamper one of the best 'small' marathons that I have done. The course was flat, the fall colors were awesome, and the volunteers were amazing!
It was great to be able to walk out to the start line minutes before the race!
The post-race 'treats' were plentiful! I would definitely do this marathon again.
By: Marathon Runner
Posted: February 26, 2003
Flat, Fast, Beautiful, and Awesome!
This was my 5th marathon and my 78th race. I felt this race was a great for the first time. Even though the course had to be changed at the last minute to a two loop course, it was still a gorgeous race. The last two miles were beautiful and were so motivating, I have never been more proud of my city. The course was well organized, and the water stations were tops! The support was awesome especially with all the groups cheering at the water stations. It was unseasonably cold, which was too bad for the race. I haved live in the Boise area for most of my life, and I have never experienced an early November day like this. They don't have to make that many adjustments to make this a world class event. Great T-shirt, Great medal, loved the chip timing, great post race food. besides the weather the only problem I saw was the unorganized awards ceremony.
By: Angie M.
Posted: February 23, 2003
Not a bad race
This was my first marathon and I was miserably sick, but I would definitely run it again. The weather was terrible and it never really warmed up, but I loved the volunteers, they were great! Even though I was one of the slowest ones there they still cheered the whole way. I'm not sure I liked the two loops, I was tempted to quit half way then. Boise is a beautiful city though, and I'm sure I'll be back.
By: Bill Abendroth
Posted: February 05, 2003
The 'It's a Wonderful Life' of marathons.....
Reading all the previous comments will really give you a good idea of what this marathon was like--even the harsh comments. From my perspective, I liked the double loop: We got to see all the best parts twice. The trees all had their fall colors, it was wonderful--from what I saw, Boise really is the city of trees.
The Boise residents were all charming, very welcoming to a new marathon that royally screwed up their traffic for an entire day. I really felt like I was running through Bedford Falls...
But what was by far the best part of this marathon was the volunteers at the aid stations. Fifty-eight bucks? Heck, I'd pay a hundred. One aid station was personed by 'Runner Girl:' Girl runners holding up signs, shyly handing out drinks--you could feel these girls seeing themselves some day running this marathon, just like you were. I was pacing a friend of mine (we finished the full marathon in 5:00), so it was getting to be the end of the day, and runners were spread out. Even at that time, the high school kids at the aid stations were beyond wonderful. For example, the cheerleaders from Capitol (I think it was Capitol H.S.) did dance routines & formed mini-pyramids--and there were three or four runners at the station...if that much. In most marathons, by that time the aid stations are self service, with volunteers reclining in the shade. While Capitol was exceptional, they were by no means unique. Lots of marathons have high school kids & cheerleaders--but Boise's kids were the best I've seen in twelve marathons.
Boise really opened their hearts & their homes to this marathon. No, it wasn't the smoothest running marathon ever--but that added to the charm for me. If you are looking for the NYC marathon, then go there. If you want to see a small marathon with a very big heart, go to Boise.....
By: Anonymous
Posted: November 23, 2002
Great Race, Organizers are difficult to deal with
I enjoyed the race and the course was great. I had a problem after the race and the directors were difficult to get a hold of. I mailed them, e-mailed them, and called them and I am yet to get a response.
By: Anonymous
Posted: November 18, 2002
Excellent First Time Effort
Despite the uncontrollable weather I thoroughly enjoyed the City of Trees 1/2 Marathon. Great course, encouraging spectators, superb post race cuisine as opposed to the usual stale bagels. As a first time race I'm assuming the minor glitches with traffic control & course changes for the marathoners will improve next year.
By: Anonymous
Posted: November 16, 2002
Great job for a first-time race
I enjoyed the route, you picked the best parts of Boise to showcase. It was a little disappointing doing two laps of the 1/2 marathon course, but the scenery made it a pleasure. I've run eight marathons now and nothing can match the finish of this one, running down the hill towards the Capital building. What a view. The effort of the volunteers was great, and aid stations were well placed. Hope in the coming years more bands and fans come out to watch. Also, more traffic control would help, in spots there was little or none, which made me a little weary of crossing streets and intersections.
By: Anonymous
Posted: November 09, 2002
Lacks attention to on course details
Being a first time event doesn't mean you aren't responsible for meeting minimum standards. On course management was poor:
1. Untrained aid stations volunteers. At one station when I asked for sports drink, they handed me an unopened 20 ounce bottle to wrestle with. Other aid stations had everyone standing behind the tables and not handing out water.
2. Traffic control: A number of unmanned intersections and one older woman almost hit me.
3. The last minute course change due to a problem with the police department means the race did not secure agreement or enough volunteers early on. I would not have traveled here if I knew it would be a double loop. Minor changes are one thing but going from a single loop to double is not. The upside was that we had the 1/2 runners for some company since marathon field spread out.
The course is scenic and I can recommend the half marathon as a nice course to run.
A minor point: Disorganized awards ceremony. No one really in charge and several people earned awards but they were not available.
Bottom line: They can't control the weather but they can do a better job at race directing. Not a good value for $58.
By: Anonymous
Posted: November 07, 2002
A good representation of Boise
The inaugural City of Trees Marathon
was a well organized event from start
to finish. During the two loop marathon
course one could see at various times
the Idaho State Capitol, downtown Boise,
fisherman in the Boise River, various
parks, and nice residential areas in
'The City of Trees'. Sufficient crowd
and police support was maintained
during a marathon run in the cool, crisp
mountain air of Boise, Idaho.
By: Anonymous
Posted: November 06, 2002
A decent, not great, first time event
The course: a decent tour of the nicer parts of Boise (Hyde Park), though the course was changed at the last minute to two laps of the 1/2 marathon course. This was a disappointment from an out-of-towner, as I would have loved to have seen more of Boise 'on the run'.
One decent hill done twice, otherwise nearly flat as a pancake.
Traffic control: needs improvement. There were some points in particular that were not clear crossovers, as I had to look behind me to be certain not to get trampled.
Volunteers: Always cheerful and happy, despite the cold weather (unusual, I am told, for this time of year). Kudos to them for helping out!
Overall value for the racing dollar: Poor. $58 was a lot to spend for this race; I don't think it was worth it.
I can't highly recommend this race; the other two inaugural races I have done(Lost Dutchman, Run for Peace) were much better.
By: Anonymous
Posted: November 05, 2002
a small cold race
This race was COLD (although I'm told it was much colder than usual). They changed the marathon course at the last minute to be a double loop-two laps of the half marathon- which was a real drag. The course was nearly flat, Boise is a very pretty city, and the few people that watched were very pleasant. I'm not sure I'd do this one again, but I had a lot of fun even though I felt pretty crappy from the start. I think I'll look for a warmer marathon during this time of year.
By: Anonymous
Posted: November 05, 2002
Excellent small marathon
This was my 22nd, and one of the most memorable.
Good organization. Very convenient for out-of-staters. No need for a rental car, and packet pickup is available late (8:00 PM) Saturday night and early on race day. Late checkout too, so you could do this one fairly cheaply. Boise is a nice, friendly city, so you might want to stay an extra night or two anyway, but then you might need a rental car after all.
Due to lack of volunteers, they changed the course from a single loop to two 1/2 M loops. All the aid stations were well-staffed, friendly and generous. Plenty of gu available.
Very scenic course, well-marked, adequate traffic control. Weather was a bit cold for me (mid 20's to start, mid-30's at finish), but that's part of the challenge. Nice downhill finish into downtown starting at mile 24.
I don't go to pre- and post-race parties, so I can't tell you about that. The medal is very solid and nice; shirt is OK too.
Minor negatives: (1) first two miles are direct east into the blinding sun, so make sure you wear shades or a cap with a visor. (2) Only split time is at the halfway point, so if you care about stuff like that, wear a watch!
If you like small (less than 400 marathoners), laid-back races, give this one a try!
By: Anonymous
Posted: November 05, 2002
Great Fall Marathon!
Despite the unseasonably cool weather at the start, the City of Trees Marathon was a great race. The course was a two loop route with great views of the city, its historic neighborhood, and the capital building coming towards the finish. The volunteers were great and the T-shirts were long sleeve and cool looking. The medal was unique also. If you want an alternative to rainy Seattle, then this is your race!
By: Anonymous
Posted: November 05, 2002
Good effort for the first running!
Boise, Idaho is a great place for a marathon. This was the first running of The City of Trees Marathon, and the organizers did a terrific job of overcoming the logistical problems of a first time race. Having two loops of 13.1 miles actually was better psychologically (for me) than a 26.2 mile course. The weather was pretty cold for a marathon (record lows in the teens a couple of days prior to race), but this was unusual. The awards ceremony was a little disjointed, but overall a pleasurable experience. Good restaurants in downtown Boise, and a number of great wineries in the area to visit. Definitely check this one out in 2003!!
By: Anonymous
Posted: November 04, 2002
They did a fine job for the first year
The down side to this marathon was; It was unseasonable cold. The marathon route was altered at the last minute due to lack of volunteers. We had to run the 1/2 route twice. This was Okay but those hills got a lot steeper the second time around.
There was a lot of good to this marathon; The organizers did a fine job pulling everything together. Loved the atmosphere of a small marathon. I could drive to the race start and sit in my warm car 25 yards from the start line. The volunteers and crowd were encouraging even though they had to be in the cold longer than I did. The police department did a great job with traffic. Nice graphics on the shirt. Next time they need to spring for coolmax. Cotton isn't used much by runners anymore. Great sponsorship (lots of goodies). I would run this one again. Hopefully it doesn't grow too big.
By: Anonymous
Posted: November 03, 2002
Terrific organization for first time event!
Running in Boise proved to be a lot of fun. Course, start and finish location, parking and water stops were perfect for the size of the crowd. The city made a great effort to keep runners motivated with cheering, music, and water/food stops. Weather was great, chilly, sunny, no wind! Way to go Boise Idaho