I don't think Observer will respond. I zinged Observer pretty good in the "Undercrowd" thread and Observer has never been able to counter. Observer could have been part of a plan to focus the topics of the posts away from running. Observer mentioned running, true, but also: artists, spatulas, Shiites, mechanics, life, and husbands. Observer and I differ in that I feel discussing that the Brooks Addiction IV shoe has a toe box that tapers too rapidly and causes blisters is more about running than what Observer was talking about.